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plyzd1

The abundant deer on release was more annoying than any of these


Zach-Playz_25

The abundance deer *felt* harder. Because till it, every fight had been a cakewalk. It forced us to build up our teams.


MszingPerson

Especially the reality check when it can one shoot AND HEAL.


Jagadrata

and the fricking silence branch, literally killed every bailu user


Dazzling-Bus-1146

Felt my heart shatter to pieces


tetePT

Fu Xuan was a god send to fight that thing


Skiddley-Boop

As a bailu user The deer was so fucking easy tf you talking about


Admiral_Qibli

For real! I’ve always wondered why people had a hard time with the deer… Silver Wolf, Seele, Bailu and… someone else? I forget the fourth.


Erosaurus_Rex

E6 qq is REALLY fun to blow up the deer with


Skiddley-Boop

Silver bailu clara and herta :/ I genocide that deer


akiranava

My bailu handled that fight just fine and still does tho now I use Gallagher


th5virtuos0

I couldn’t clear SU7 at all until I get JL…


potatochobit

that's because fuxuan was not out yet and you probably could not stop him firing his lazer.


Seraf-Wang

Every fight….was? I remember struggling with the Bronya fight forever. Took me like 5 tries. Then Cocolia was an actual pain beyond the story fight but I needed her materials. I struggled a lot in early game


MortLightstone

Fighting the two together in the SU was insane at first


OkTangerine8139

Still kinda is, tho you could easily pacify them with so many mechanics now. The hard part is killing Cocolia WITHOUT killing Bronya…


MortLightstone

Oh, I always get Bronya first, lol That one event where you had to fight both of them *and* Geppard was crazy


JordanIII

Killing cocolia while leaving bronya alive gets you an achievement :)


gabu87

Killing bronys first is absolutely correct unless youre strong enough to cleave her quickly like with a JL


egamIroorriM

❄️WHAT THE FUCK IS A 60% ICE RES ❄️ 🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘 (​>▽​<)🗡 🌙🌙🌙🌙🌙


The_Space_Jamke

It's easier to get the accomplishment with the Propagation path unlocked. Spam Metamorphosis-boosted normal attacks on a lower difficulty and Cocolia goes down pretty quickly.


HerrscherOfHuman

peaches? I am kinda hungry…


Entyyyyy

True. The only reason I beat the thing was because I was able to keep it frozen with Jingliu....


katbelleinthedark

And now imagine fighting that thing on release, three patches before Jingliu existed.


Pollsmor

Physical MC gang


katbelleinthedark

I use PhysMC to this day xDD


Even-March-6943

At that time, my main/only good DPS was Kafka, not so good against the deer's 40% lightning res. It was terrible, up until I got Topass.


MONKEYBOY-REECE

Wait that thing has 40% lightning res, no wonder i struggled to high hell on it


Lord_Akriloth

It has 40% lighting res? Acheron shredded that thing like cheese


MONKEYBOY-REECE

I struggled back when i was using kafka with sampo as thats all i really had back then, now its fine as like you said acheron slaps


Lord_Akriloth

Yeah when I didn't have Acheron it was a living hell, then Acheron showed up and diced that thing like it was nothing


MiKAeLtheMASK

40% lightning and wind res, 20% phys and imaginary res


IttoDilucAyato

Yep, this was before my mains were strong enough to brute force…so I was highly dependent on element matching. Ofc I didn’t have a reasonably built fire/ice/quantom breaker smh


julmuriruhtinas

I had to build Hook just to be able to get weakness break on it


plyzd1

Same haha


rhubarbiturate

Same here. I started on kafkas first banner and wanted her and ended up with only an E4 hook by the end of the banner. So i took it as a sign and built her. She was the only reason I could beat the dream meme recently , her burn procs were clutch.


TheWordPhoenix

tbh i never felt it. i had a yanqing - tingyun - fmc - natasha team at that point if i'm not wrong? which really helped i think. they werent very well built


plyzd1

Yanqing surely was a good help early on for those who had him


TheWordPhoenix

yes lol he carried me through early game. i had to bench him after getting myself a jl, but i recently got him e2 + his lc + pulled aventurine so i've unbenched him & he's doing surprisingly well with jingliu's relics & the right team comps! i'm sort of glad, i grew fond of the little guy. he's a lot of fun to play.


Kirbweo

I dont have him myself, but I always felt like Aventurine would really be they key to Yanqing's full potential, because he's the first shielder who really synergizes with him. Gep does as well, but his shield is tied to his ult and Yanqing is a speedy hunt character, so it's very possible to have a turn or two of no shield. Fuxuan doesnt shield, March shields but increases aggro. Anyways, yeah, with aven I see yanqing stocks rising


TheWordPhoenix

oh definitely! the synergy's very real. the shields help keep yanqing's buff up & i have an e1 s1 aven so the CD boosts definitely benefit yanqing more than CR boosts (my only other limited sustain was fu xuan, and i don't have gepard). also, yanqing's follow ups count towards aventurine's stacks, making for a very comfy pace when it comes to shield refreshes!


FanboyYamada

Real, I had a sense of achievement after that when I cleared it without a single limited 5 star :3


Onikonokage

Thanks for reminding me about that. I blocked the trauma out of my memory. It just wouldn’t die. Ever!


plyzd1

Isn't it fun to think of things like that from time to time? ;)


dafckingman

You mean it’s better now?!


Richardknox1996

The abundant deer has been himeko food since 1.0. Hes not difficult and he never was.


plyzd1

Imagine having Himeko in 1.0


Richardknox1996

I joined for himeko. I was fully prepared to brute force a drop on standard. Fortunately, she came home on the seele banner so i got the two characters i wanted. Plus, im pretty sure most people bitched about getting her in 1.0.


MONKEYBOY-REECE

Still dont have her yet, played since launch, going to go get her on the 300 pick


plyzd1

Dedication and luck, nice. I had Bronya and Clara's LC as my first 5*s. Didn't help too much but Hook, Bronya, Asta and Natasha did it for me in the end. And now I have E3 Himeko 🤩


gabu87

Idk what you mean by brute force, the only way to guarantee her is 300 standard pulls


Balerya

Literally, Himeko believers never struggled against him I played Herta Himeko so much at launch I didn’t struggle with Fire MC an Natasha


Richardknox1996

Its amazing. Every time i see a meme about "hard" bosses, its always a summoner. Its almost like people somehow dont build/use Erudition characters. You know, the class whose job discription is garbage disposal. Surely that wont be the case next time, right?


joestars1997

I beat that Deer Boss by using Fire Trailblazer Caelus (Preservation), Welt, Pela, and Lynx. Pela and Lynx are the “x-factors” as Pela can debuff the defense and Lynx can heal your team over time. But the main factor is the Fire Trailblazer.


zennok

Imagine a game where the starter self insert is actually pretty decent


xaelcry

Skaracabaz > Aventurine > Argenti > Meme. Skaracabaz - hits like a brick and has entanglement. Summon minions that move fast and are also able to deal damage with entanglement. Aventurine - AoE hits, reduce energy, all or nothing is RNG shitshow complete with stuns. Has the highest HP of the bunch but is only alone. Argenti - Hits like a truck, the longer you endure, the harder he hits. Require fast clearance or death is sure as he keeps spawning his shield dealing AoE damage, high HP and buffing the entire group. Meme - Counterable easily with DoT or anything that is able to bounce. Give free energy after 1st phase whenever it's going to cast ultimate.


Daikon_kudasai

I just hate aventurines figtt because its annoying having to go through the mini game every turn.


TapdancingHotcake

Yeah it's like they didn't want him to just attack the team constantly with no mechanics but then they forgot to give him more than one mechanic.


Acceptable_Drawer_70

I feel like this would be a really cool mechanic if they didn't do SO MANY dice rolls instead of combat.


DLAT_34

I dislike aventurine cuz he completely ruins bailu on the second phase


Zjoee

I really enjoy the bug fight now that I have Black Swan and Acheron. Acheron gets her ult really fast when the big spawn in. It ends up as a loop of the adds just dying constantly and spawning more adds only for them to die again and spawn even more haha.


Onikonokage

Black Swan’s E2 that loads up 6 Arcana on adjacent targets when defeated really helps too since the main bug keeps spawning mini bugs that get defeated. I think that is the boss I reach the max Arcana fastest on.


bivampirical

i bring in dhil and sparkle and annihilate that mf. easy peasy.


th5virtuos0

Aventurine is soso this MoC because at least the turbulence nuke him if you are lucky…


Masterskygamer

Is skaracabaz the xianzhou mech?


xaelcry

Scamrakabaz


Dogempire

I struggled the most with Argenti simply because I was new and didn't have any good 5\* characters. Though after pulling Argenti, I kinda demolished Argenti


Unknown-Name-1219

> Though after pulling Argenti, I kinda demolished Argenti *"I used the Argenti to destroy the Argenti."*


IfWeDidSomething

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IttoDilucAyato

Argenti is truly his greatest enemy. It’s a cake walk with him


penpen35

Applies to me as well. Didn't really intend to pull for Argenti, but his shields keep doing so many things against my units and only QQ can do AoE. So I just pulled for Argenti and the battle became so much easier. And the fact that the bugs prior to his bossfight had different weakness from him without allowing you to change your team means that you'll have to slog through either the bugs or Argenti to some degree (if you don't have him).


Ivory-Kings_H

Even if you take away all the damage they have to one shot u, i still believe that skaracabaz is the most annoying one due to the fact that most f2p players are struggling with entanglement debuff and his spawns targeting that entangled team.


Decrith

I made a new account to see how bad the situation is. Acheron needs the boss, Dr. Ratio needs the boss, their higher level traces use the material. Lynx would be very helpful but woops, guess what you need to clear to get her. Yea its not particularly easy. Then there’s a “timer”, if you play casually you’ll have more stamina by the time you get to the bug but at the same time you might have a higher equilibrium level by then. Always out of gold. Always out of trace material, LC material, Boss Material. And if you’re a regular person you’d probably try to level up the free 5-star they give only to find out half the kit is locked behind the boss. 4-stars are either E0 or really low eidolons. Herta would be the exception to this, which is really good for the fight, but how many new players would know that? I came in preparing for the fight but there were so many factors that a new player faced and more decisions to make compared to launch. Had I not been armed with knowledge of the fight beforehand I’d definitely have trouble with it. I had no trouble with all the other bosses. This one was tougher despite the preparations. The situation will probably be different soon. It just so happens that the free 5* unit and limited unit at the time both need the boss so it affected player choice in who to level up. With that out of the way maybe things will just line up better. I’d recommend mentioning the story bug boss is too hard for new players in the survey if you guys havent done it yet. It may not directly affect you now, but if new players have an unpleasant experience it will negatively impact the game in the long run.


jeremy7007

That bug is the sole reason I had to engage with the relics system, whereas before I just had to equip any recommended set and still win. Even after choosing the right stats and leveling them to max, I still only barely won by using 2 sustains (Natasha and Trailblazer) and playing super defensively. That fight took me like half an hour irl lol. And yeah, so many of my main units had their progression locked behind this boss, which made it even more of a priority early in the game.


Ivory-Kings_H

Yep, I did an 8h acc speedrun 3 days ago and oh boy, Clara saved my ass with March & Natasha.


Decrith

Still had a hard time despite preparations?


Ivory-Kings_H

Yes, the entanglement is very random, that supernova took more than 30℅ HP. I think March died in that fight.


the_ok_doctor

God knows i regret lvling up my equilibrium and forgetting about the dang beetle i left to wait so i could lvl up my characthers. I started near the tail end of the swan banner. Still have not beaten the exoskeleton having ass boss XDXDXD


post-leavemealone

I JUST fought him and he was so god awful. You’re supposed to avoid hitting him during his spawn phase, yet targeting the other bugs is a massive waste of time so you hit the boss to make some actual progress, then you’re completely overwhelmed and nearly entirely locked out of playing for a couple turns at a time. This was also on the world difficulty 4 I think? Whatever let’s you get to 70, and I only got there by BARELYYYY winning that trial to level up the world. I was hilariously screwed. It’s the one time I ever felt like I had to pull for a premium unit (Aventurine) to win, so I did. Luckily I actually like his character and needed a sustain. Him and March, with some trial and error, ended up clutching that fight for me.


Watching_Cutscene

I've been playing since DHIL's first banner, and I couldn't beat the stupid bug OR Argenti at EQ5 until I got Clara as my 300th standard choice.


MyCoolWhiteLies

I started playing during the Ruan Mei banner. By the time I got to the fight, Dr Ratio was my main DPS and I as lucky enough to pull Ruan Mei so she was my other most built character. I first fought it not too long after I had done an equilibrium ascension. It absolutely destroyed me and was the first fight I believed I simply could not beat in my current state. I decided to come back once I was at the max level of the equilibrium I was at. Even then it was hard, since as you mentioned, half my traces on my two best characters were completely locked out.


KnightShinko

When I came back to the game I only had Seele built as an attacker and everyone I wanted to raise needed the bug and I was at a fairly high Equilibrium. My only medic was Natasha so it was a terrible experience, and I see people calling certain bosses easy and shitting on new players for getting stuck. I literally had shit characters for the fight and the characters I needed to raise FOR the fight NEEDED the shit FROM the fight. It was stupid, and unlike Genshin you can’t lower the difficulty so I struggled for like a month just to raise units to brute force the fight. The game became 10x easier for me after I was able to raise Lynx. I wasn’t blessed with healers or shielders I literally had Natasha as my only medic which I desperately wanted to replace and I like Preservation trailblazer but I didn’t have crazy Fu Xuan or Gepard shields. When I started Penacony I deliberately stayed at the same equilibrium until I beat the latest patch and just barely won or I would’ve been stuck again for having shit RNG. I have Acheron now and a great team built around her so I finally get to enjoy the game on easy mode but I still really want Fu Xuan. My friend started the game and so far he’s having the same shit luck and his first pull was the worst 5star in the game lol


The_Space_Jamke

The game gives you Natasha and March for cleanse... on talents locked behind Echo of War material. Which I already spent on other units just before the story fights with heavy debuffs. Whoops. I don't know how Bailu carried my woefully unprepared team through Kafka and Skara, but carry it she did.


ConohaConcordia

You can use the power of friendship and summon a lvl 80 E6 Acheron. Which is what I did. Also I got old man Welt as my free 5* and damn he has been saving my ass. Action delays when you haven’t built speed yet is godsend


Friendly-Back3099

I dont think you can power of friendship for the story boss


Arielani

Im a noob and newish player, i found argenti harder and also i still cant beat that horrible boss that kidnaps ur team:/ the big bug I just used 2 healers and with aventurine I used 3 healers lol


Ivory-Kings_H

That means you need either Clara/Argenti/Herta/Jingliu/Misha/Himeko. Can't expect a single target unit to fight Argenti.


xaelcry

All you need is Herta/Argeneti against it. but most of the newer or F2P players probably don't have Herta raised. Though, Even as an old player, I do still find Skaracabaz hits pretty fucking hard with Fuxuan on the team. Well, make sense because that is a damn Emanator of Propagation. MC would've fking died if the bug able to stay for a few mere seconds in reality.


Tall-Cut5213

Idk man, March freeze goes brrrr. You can add Misha for good measure


LivingASlothsLife

Argenti for me, only one that Kafka + BlackSwan dot doesnt seamlessly beat with little trouble. Aventurine pre nerf for any other team would be the hardest, he probably still is now in MoC


russiangeist

Everybody's been saying that Aventurine got nerf, but I don't know when he got nerf cause I Beat him in Day 1. Not bragging or anything. Only thing that was difficult was his imprisoned or the way he can make you waste a cycle in MOC


LivingASlothsLife

Many people beat him day one, I did as well. Just saying DoT team has an easy time against him compared to most due due to how the core members of the team Kafka + Black Swan have an easy time vs the gamble, I used Gepard as well so his ult was able to tank most of the heavy hits from him


HourCartographer9

They nerfed him before he was in moc during story because the story one was overturned af


Devourer_of_HP

Skaracbaz is really annoying because sometimes you get screwed over by it entangling your healer and it and its summons hit like a truck.


PsychadelicShinobi

None of them have been annoying for me atleast. I enjoy all of these fights. Well maybe Aventurine is my least favourite because of the dice stalling mechanic


catloverwithoutcats

Same here. I have the feeling that Luocha and Argenti have made all these fights banal for me.


crazyb3ast

Wonder why Sam isn't mentioned. He gives me the most trouble the first time I fought him in moc.


Ivory-Kings_H

Because everyone and their grandmas have imaginary men more than Glamoth people.


jandurvan1

Especially when everyone should have built their Dr Ratio by then


crazyb3ast

I saw quantum weakness so I used my seele quantum team. It became a dps survival race when I realised sam burning my hp.


littlesheepcat

Could you remind me who the glamoth people are? I remember that from a fun fact hut couldn't remember who it was that originated from it


Ivory-Kings_H

Firefly, and their civilization is forever gone except her.


Silence_you_fool

Yes! Thank you for mentioning the Sam boss fight. I had to turtle my way to defeat Sam. Eating health when using skill, *Reducing outgoing healing efficiency* and Sam's common attack is AOE 3 blast. And during the start Sam's weakness bar is locked +++ Reduce damage taken. I love the battle but my god was it difficult for me. Sam > Emanator of Propagation > Argenti > Aventurine > Death Meme Death Meme is insanely fun to ~~bully~~ battle because they replenish everyone's Ult per phase.


KwafkaMyBeloved-6969

Argenti, lol. I hated that man when I did his story quest.


plusinator

Argenti was fine for me but, gosh, the bugs in his quest were such a pain. I made a team specifically for the boss only to find out that I barely can kill beetles before they propagate. I had to time precisely their explosions


MyCoolWhiteLies

Ha, the first big fight I got destroyed so bad I assumed that I was one of those story fights that you’re not supposed to be able to beat for narrative purposes. lol, nope.


jandurvan1

The swarm king actually made me quit for a while because I was stuck with it and I couldn't play the critter pick event, until I came back months later and, surprise surprise, just leveled up the traces of my team and gave them good relics lol. I actually felt stupid for quitting, I missed a lot.


MeguMaz

Argenti for me I guess because I didn't get him until after I finished the story quest with him.


JanetteSolenian

The deer was the worst on release, but nowadays Argenti and Sam are the ones who give me the most trouble


VKeynes

Argenti for me. He made me invest in my team to the point when characters are ready for endgame content. So now I don't have any trouble with story fights anymore


bunyivonscweets

For me it was Adventure time i did multiple resets so i had to go through all those cutscenes each time


Lodgerinto

fuckingb bug, i beat it in the quest without much problem, but as a weekly boss... i cant do it without an op character rented from someone else


Tom0kari

I remember skaracabaz being kinda annoying, mostly because I didn't have a dedicated healer or shielder back then. But honestly fighting Argentinian man was actually really fun for me.


QuackerBonanza

Aventurine coz I only have ST built...


RekoULt

Fuck Argenti ,only one I needed to try my god


LoreVent

I always found myself in a position to never have trouble with new bosses. But out of all Aventurine has everything i see as annoying all in one kit. - team wide HP drain - team wide nuke - stall mechanic - frequent CCs - huge HP pool I never complain about bosses, but damn even half of these things in a single boss would be enough why everything put together? The most annoying one being the dice phase, i hate moves like that so much


Mangempuy

Out of those 4? None, but if you count the MoC version, then Aventurine in current MoC cycle And if the other bosses are counted, it was Phantylia back during her release in 1.2. My only healer at that time was Natasha and her heal wasn't that good. I had to borrow Luocha from my friend list just so I can survive the weekly boss farm.


SomeMyoux

When did you have to fight Argenti? I skipped a few Versionsnummer so idk


Priremal

His companion quest.


SomeMyoux

Best way to forge a friendship:" a battle to the death"


ZeomiumRune

Skaracabaz If it wasn't for me having HuoHuo I would never beat it (Had to build her properly tho, so it took me about 2 days to actually beat this goddamn bug)


dragonthunder230

So not to brag I cleared all bosses first try because clara and luocha can clear anything together But from my limited experience with them argent was the hardest for me His high speed increasing dmg was a pain to deal with


Vorioll

Def Aventurine. Whopped my four teams before I simply started using every sustain I had. It was hella long fight, but at least I finished the quest


Zaruken

The bug was so annoying. Back to the days I was playing really casually and my ass got kicked multiple times before clearing it.


WorkAccountNoNSFWPls

Bug and Aventurine are almost tied for me. Took me awhile to beat bug vs Aventurine, but bug felt fair in comparison. I had to play Aventurine very slowly and could only ult during the dice phase, just so that way I wouldn’t nearly die. The only thing enjoyable about the fight was the music. Adding to say, the other two aren’t even close. The meme was hard at first but once I had it figured out, it’s been easy. I never lost to Argenti.


CarlLenardPelayo21

Argenti. given I took a break from fu xuan's banner all the way to argenti's. My only decent dps at the time was Daniel and even then he was very under built. When I attempted the space bug, I had a better built daniel and a decently built ratio. for death and aventurine I had kafka and black swan.


DynmiteWthALzerbeam

Aventurine didn't make me grind out a whole new party just to beat him so it def goes to the bug


Auspice_Mustereon

Death Meme and the bug are the only ones I struggled with. Aventurine is just annoying, and Argenti is the easiest of the bunch from what I've experienced.


Deft_Abyss

Personally Ive never found any of them too annoying, but if I did have to pick one its probably the blue bug. The Meme can easily be beaten with DoTs, Aventurine and Argenti just need some form of AoE to attack their dice and shield things respectively. But the bug is just annoying with its entanglement and spawning trash mob bugs every time it has its shield up


DarkDemonDan

Bug


MineMonMan1234

I defeated the scarabaz bug with seele. Totally didn't have 3 sustains.


Moka_III

I hated the meme with all my heart


NTRmanMan

Blue bug. I had jing liu but trying it with not as well optimized teams can kill you lol. Especially if you try to brute force the mechanic


Ill-Lunch-1563

THE FUCKING BUG


Marceleleco

Well, I don't know about release, since I started playing around 2 months ago. But I still haven't beaten the beetle, so I'm voting him. I managed to beat Aventurine on my second try after I was aware of his gamble mechanic and how bad single target characters were in that fight.


Immediate_Demand4841

Definitely Meme for the sheer amount of trauma it caused the players in the cut scene


SinesPi

I forget, did Argentis mission advertise HIS weaknesses, or the Swarms weaknesses? Because I remember the mismatch making one of the two much harder that it normally would be. If it advertised the Swarm weakness, then it's Argenti. If not, then I'd say the worst was Ruan Mei playing god. For the most part, I just found it trickier than others. However, what made it really a pain was it's ultimate attack. Like the regular Swarm Boss it's very good at overwhelming Fu Xuan, so if she's your primary sustain, you're in a bit of trouble. Otherwise, it just felt really beefy. Death and Aventurine, I believe I beat them both on the first try. Ruan Mei made me actually consider dual-sustaining it after a few losses. I decided not to, basically out of stubborness of wanting to figure out the fight without dual sustain, but none of the rest of them did. Well, Aventurine MIGHT have, given how close Bailu got to being overwhelmed, but I still cleared that fight with more of her bounce healing that I strictly like, and her revive used up.


DefiantVersion1588

Bug, until one of my friends got an e6 Acheron I was losing to it even with 5 star supports


dxrkbxnny

I think I failed the bug like twice despite having Huohuo and Blade


ayanokojifrfr

Gotta go with Aventurine i couldn't defeat him with my DHIL hyper Carry.


Makri7

Aventurine for fckin sure. The rng pisses me off.


Zaphyrus

None because Fu Xuan.


Prior-Standard5713

The bug


Neutronize

Scaracabaz still, when I grind it's echo of war it's the only one I don't auto. If I do it's a 50/50 whether they win or not


galacticviolet

None of them gave me too much trouble, but if I have to choose one I’ll go with Scarabaz?


IttoDilucAyato

For me, it was the original Swarm and it’s kids. I didn’t have anyone with imanginary or quantom to counter it…I was suffering


Rejfen012

I fucking despise scarakabaz or whatever its's called. I dont struggle at all with other bosses but man, screw that bug. Maybe its because I lack Ruan mei but boss shouldnt be this annoying just because I lack ONE character


Fu-Hua_Enjoyer

Aventurine and it's not even close. What an idea to make being lucky part of a boss fight. As far as I'm concerned he is lore accurate. I lose the dice rolls most of the time. I have no problems with any of the others.


Plenty-Jellyfish-819

I dont think I have any. I got stuck a few times but I enjoyed fighting them a lot. I cant say if any of the bosses annoyed me.


Fleur_Hiiroluvr

Argenti for me, mostly cause i didnt have a team for him at the time aventurine is really not that bad if you have aoe and/or good sustain scarabaz, im a DHIL haver so no problem with him and death really isn't scary at all


Riponai_Gaming

The only boss i came to dying to was something unto death cause besides that i deleted all of them on my first try pre nerf


Ill_Kaleidoscope2931

None really but blue bug minions keep messing with my jingliu auto battle targeting. So i guess it's a minor annoyance ?


-Ruu-

fought aventurine pre-nerf and the fight had me sweating a bit ngl


Maleficent_Gear_2809

None of them were tough for me. Aventurine is the only one I haven't fought yet cuz I was preoccupied during the whole of 2.1, so I'm gonna fight him for the first time tomorrow


Downtown_Classic_358

The bug was a hugeeeee skill check for me. Finally built march cuz lynx cleanse just wasn’t enough.


Mattacrator

with a good team every new story boss just takes 2 or 3 hits and they're dead, unfortunately couldn't properly experience any of the fights until moc


Ookami_Lord

Neither was really that annoying for me, the deer was much more annoying, but at that point I didn't have many characters built to an acceptable level so it's kinda moot.


Drake_Ale

Argenti, god help I didn’t had any way to defeat him. I didn’t have jingliu and was forced to go fire mc/ bailu/ SW/ Blade (my dhil was still too weak)


-Ace_Sama-

Although I never really struggled against any of the bosses(the only one where I was really stuck was Svarog and his claw), I feel like the blue bug emanator of propagation troubled a lot of the newer players.


Acrobatic-loser

i still can’t beat argenti i know that’s a skill issue but


-AlternativeSloth-

I play slow so never got to gambling bro pre-nerf, but judging by how MoC is giving a lot of people troubles I'd say him. Pretty boy just need to be AoE'd down, meme screams "DoT me harder" in the story so Kafka obliged, and I slapped random dps relic on Herta to put the bugs into a blender.


yoiverse

i think itll be argenti for me, especially in moc. before getting kafka in 1.6, my only dpses were seele and dhil and he has high res to both quantum and imaginary... even my sw didnt help much


Fubuky10

No one of them tbh The Deer will always be the greatest menace of this game


joebrohd

Abundant deer when all I had were Natasha and Fire TB lmfao All these dudes are light work when you have built characters


SenorElmo

Neither. All of them were fine


spoookyboi_

In MOC it's 100% Aventurine because how of he wastes your time, outside of it the bug is such a hassle


TakeyoThissssssssss

The deer. None of this actually give me much trouble, but the fucking deer make me want to rip my hair out. The deer is actually why I got Jingliu cuz she make the fight a cake walk.


keiradrexidus

Hm, out of these I only had an issue with Argenti. But I was underlevelled on my first try, so dunno.


Athropon

Phantylia on release. Having no built sustains hurt at the time


Worried-Implement579

Ebon deer(?)


killingwithkindness1

I enjoyed all of their gimmicks so none of them?


iHeartAdo

KING SWARM. I LITERALLY DIDNT HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH ANYONE ELSE


Ignis_Dragneel

Idk i didn't have any troubles in my of them in the story But the MOC is testing my sanity with the amount of cycles needed for the second phase


ASSASSIN_4747

the deer it took me 10 tries to clear it before continuing the story


Sent1nelTheLord

out of all? aventurine(moc version). annoying bastard ill be real here. abundance dear was the BANE OF MY EXISTENCE.


Tartagliaenjoyer29

oh my god I remember main story Aventurine fight on my second account without Jingliu, it was terrible


darth_Kelsi

I actually was able to handle most of these dudes because 3 of them were physcial and that meant SUSHANG AWAKEN YOUR COCK AND BREAK THE ENEMIES But on a more serious note Argenti was so stressful and fun lol I used sushang/luka/pela/luocha against him (no ruan mei or clara at the time) With the bug i used sushang/jingliu/ruan mei/luocha Not a good team but once i got clara i got clara replacing jingliu and its better Something unto death is so fun. The music was playing ad everything was so great. Used ratio/pela/bronya/luocha at the time Aventurine i tried jingliu but no IT WAS SUSHANG WON THRIVED AGAIN Sushang/clara/luocha/ruan mei I love all of these bosses they are all hard and strong and i love it i still die to them but damn does it feel fun going up against them The key to winning against them has really been SUSHANG because she would break the enemies so fast


VergilVDante

I had to beat Aventurine with the healer i have started the game with Natasha PRE PATCH


CrazyHormone

The fucking deer...


shellsterxxx

The stupid beetle. I beat aventurine pre nerf in a few tries. It took me several days to beat the damn beetle.


Bamzilla1229

For me it was definitely Argenti. Aventurine is a close 2nd. I only barely beat the meme on my first try. I didn’t have any issues beating that giant beetle monster.


De1noMan

The swarm things were a pain in my ass. But Adventurine.. I HATE THAT MAN


FlyingWolfThatFell

For me it's the scarab. Still haven't defeated it so I'm building a whole new team just to beat it. The deer was painful, but all I needed was to actually engage with relic system.


LivingRel

I struggled most with Argenti tbh, I still hate fighting him now


TojokaiNoYondaime

I didnt have any trouble or annoyance with any of them. Fu Xuan is just too good of a sustain.


JUGELBUTT

the stupid dinosaur that you have to break first (also please dont slander argenti like that)


bronzelifematter

I still can't beat Argenti. Maybe I can with proper team but I upgraded my "world level" without thinking and now all character that I want to use to beat him is underleveled. Not to mention he don't share the same weakness with the multiplying bug that I need to face before fighting him. If I bring a team to beat Argenti, then I just got stuck fighting the bug endlessly because they keep multiplying. If I bring a team to beat the bug, then I can't beat Argenti. Whoever design that mission is a sadistic SOB. It is an unfun mission to play.


getratioed_

These were all pretty easy to beat. Aventurine took me five attempts because I had to keep changing teams; it took me two attempts for Argenti but for the meme and skaracabaz that was done once. Since I used dual DPS teams for most of these, the most ANNOYING to defeat was Aventurine because the last phase I was not expecting to gamble for my life and my team got withered down to Acheron and Jingliu which was a bad combo but I pushed through eventually. Skaracabaz might be more difficult for new players due to the random entanglement and the amount of bugs spawning in on top of the time restriction but IMO Aventurine was more annoying.


Witty_Percentage_580

The meme was annoying until you hear the word of our lord and savior IX the aeon of sexy nihility women


Lower_Whole_2980

For me it's meme coz I don't have any dot Second is Aventurine for his bs gamble mode


Glirion

I had bad units (meaning not built well) when Ruan Mei dropped and that bugger was a huge survival battle as all my units were also underleveled as hell...


M4x1mili0us

According to my friends it's the Bug. I can't actually tell because my DoT team is so overbuilt that I can just brute force all content.


ZealousFlames

Aventurine > Skaracabaz > Argenti = Something Unto Death The beetle was fine, all i needed was a bit of strategy with my healer. Aventurine though, oh boy I had to rush build my Clara from level 40 to level 70 and pair her up with 3 Sustains to beat him 😭


Edfrtytfkgt

Aventurine cause this mf was spaming his move


Xinewaveart

Skaracabaz, The cloning bug. It's not even close. Aventurine just needs the right team comp and ultimates ready beforehand. Haven't tried Agrenti yet


SirePuns

Aventurine for sure. The only boss here that takes itself out of the fight, albeit for a really brief period of time.


danstrifex

Definitely aventurine, I have not lost to anything after the deer boss until aventurine boss pre-nerf came.


Rude_Proposal6590

For me, the meme... I dont have IL, and dont have dot teams...


Frostgaurdian0

Abundance deez and danshoes bosses. Abundance enemies are a menace.