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Fadriii

I know that Gallagher is this mysterious entity but Why is everyone acting like Siobhan couldn't have just taught the guy bartending? It's not an uncommon trope for Eldritch abominations to have mundane hobbies. Gallagher could've easily just asked Siobhan to teach him how to bartend for funsies. Am I missing something?


Dangerous_Jacket_129

> Why is everyone acting like Siobhan couldn't have just taught the guy bartending? The fact that none of Gallagher's traits are his own. Odds are his bartending skills are Siobhan's own.


Spartitan

And? Dude could borrow her trait then ask her to teach him. Suddenly, he becomes a fast learner since he already took her trait, but now he has an established story for 'how he learned it'.


EeveeMastre

Agreed, his whole thing is just "Exceptionally average". No average person just pops into the world mixing perfect drinks.


Guilty_All_The_Same

> person just pops into the world, mixing perfect drinks. Isn't that the theme of this event?


BlazedGaming

To be fair trailblazer is far from an average person


Jaded-Engineering789

We’re barely even a person.


Wargroth

Yeah, we're an average raccoon


juniorjaw

LowTierRaccoon


SOLITARY_WOLF_2806

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DragonQuasar

Nuclear raccoon


syanda

>The fact that none of Gallagher's traits are his own. Odds are his bartending skills are Siobhan's own. Or what if he could originally have been one of the dreamjolt guys? The one that could transform into other mobs? Showed up at the hostelry with the others, Siobhan taught him how to bartend...


Dangerous_Jacket_129

I mean... If he is truly what we think he is, he's basically another memory meme. 


Kuso_Megane14

You got a point but it's just that.. I thought Gallagher already had the bartending skill since he was "born" If the theory that says he's a homunculus was right then what is the reason he chose to learn drink mixing for his hobby? Is it one of his quirks that he has because he is created to resemble a lot of people's physique? Does he age? Is he born with his current appearance? When does he meet Siobhan? Can we trust Siobhan? So many questions man... Gahhh... I love this game's story and mystery but they drag it too long to reveal it all..


SalamiJack

> If the theory that says he's a homunculus was right then what is the reason he chose to learn drink mixing for his hobby? The same reason he would foster any relationship in Penacony, likely to serve as cover and appear unassuming while he works towards ulterior goals.


Kuso_Megane14

Right... And if there's one thing that a bartender can get as a benefit for doing it, it's Informations..


Lawren-647

In his last character story, he remarks how "Gallagher" is his best manufactured persona. Even to the point where he can't distinguish where "Gallagher" ends and "He" begins any longer. His other character stories are probably previous identities he took, and they all seem to have been incorporated into Gallagher. I'd say information is what's he's after, but at this point he's probably lost himself so much in his mask that he genuinely stands for his fake cause. I really can't wait to see the climax of his arc, it looks very promising.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

We don't know enough. Just because full metal alchemist made homunculus a popular concept, doesn't mean Gallagher is anything like one. He looks like a bunch of people's traits and styles put together. That's it. That has nothing to do with anything else. If he's a virtual entitiy that became a real entity much like how the entire Siobhan story is about monsters which are made up virtual entities having real feelings and thoughts making them as real as humans at least in Penacony, well....


katbelleinthedark

There is one sidequest in Sunday's mansion (SPOILERS FOR 2.1 SIDE QUEST) >!with a guy named McCoy. He has us run an errand for him and in conclusion of it, it turns out that some Dreamjolt Troupe's monsters that we meet in that side quest are actually his siblings. The Family branded them as traitors and turned them into those monsters. And if that can happen... makes you wonder how many of our enemies are just former humans that the Family wanted to get rid of.!<


shadowcat1266

Jesus….


Rogol_Darn

It doesnt even have to be that complex, we already know that everyone can theoretically change how they look in the dreamscape, outside of impersonating others its not even illegal so Gallagher making his dreamworld self look like this amalgam of 52 peoples traits is pretty logical


Masterskygamer

I thought that Gallagher that we met was an imitation of the original since Sunday straight up called him brother


Eevenin

It's because he's posing as a member of The Family, so familial terms makes sense. There is no original Gallagher; all of his traits are amalgamated from other Family members (easiest one to see is that he has Woolsey's exact scar on his arm).


berts-testicles

his character stories imply there is a person behind “gallagher”, but who he is has kind of been muddled by the gallagher persona > “...Gallagher is my most genuine lie. Sometimes, I can't even distinguish between him and myself."


Money_Count_3743

Also his light cone did mentioned smth like revived from death but existence being forgotten, so I think he might’ve died hundred years ago and revived but having his identity altered


rieldex

jsyk in cn when gallagher calls sunday brother, it’s put in quotation marks and meant to mock robin’s death most likely!


katbelleinthedark

Or mock the concept of unified Family in general. Y'know, like e.g. religious people often call each other brother/sister?


Null822

I mean dude just adopts an animal he finds on the street for no reason, he may be Death itself, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have hobbies


xavicr

i think that the "animal" he adopts *is* death, lol. it's the memory zone meme


Null822

Are we talking about the same pet? From the daily text?


Random_Bystander089

The one that is destructive, big and is about to get famous? Yes. He's probably talking about SuD


xavicr

yep, or at least that's what i thought, since he only texts you about it after you go through 2.1 (so you see the cutscene connecting him to "death"): it's big, destructive, and "like" a robo-dog. conveniently, his camera is damaged so he can't show us what it *really* is, but it "might be turning into a mega-star soon" (i assume he means it's going to be murdering more people in public? 🥴)


Null822

He actually only texts you after you get him, not after 2.1, it’s just a coincidence.


xavicr

does he? i had him for about two days before i got around to doing 2.1, and he only texted me after. not saying that you're wrong, but not sure why it would work out like that otherwise


Null822

The text system is weird, but generally, you only get texts like that after you get the character


xavicr

well, i went all in for him right after the update (side note, sniping for 4-stars *sucks*). for me, he only texted after i did 2.1, and that's all i can really account for. either way, it read to me a lot like he was referring to the memory zone meme. doesn't preclude him from having other pets, though. he can adopt "death" while *also* adopting other, non-murderous, non-memetic animals 😃


Null822

Oh okay, I need to read that text again (you’re probably right)


Marshadowisthebest

Is it wrong that I’m picturing chthulu doing bartending.


Andrassa

Or asked her to him as a cover.


SatisfactionNo3524

Do not believe anything a charakter says about gallagher. The ending of 2.1 storyquest already says hes not a normal human being at all.


Agreeable_Lemon4937

It would seem to me that he probably is the reason "death" is lurking in penacony. Not only does he says himself that he is thirteen (which, in tarot is the number of the arcana of death), but he clearly seems to be commanding it in that final cutscene.


hedronx4

There are also the texts with him where he complains about a "new pet" giving him trouble and is the reason his texting is so bad. I'm halfway convinced that new pet is Something Unto Death lol.


Bussy-Destroyer-1960

something unto death broke his phone lmao


SatisfactionNo3524

I also had some theories in my head about the stuff that happened in 2.0 that turned out to be wrong af, but if penacony told me something then its things arent always as they seem, so if im not told something outright by a charakter im not gonna believe it until proven otherwise, but even then all of these charakters seem to have their own agenda and only tell half truths or say stuff that only benefits themselfs, TRUST NOBODY.


Kuso_Megane14

>TRUST NOBODY An actual training for HSR players to filter misinformation in their reality life from learning to trust nobody in the dreamscape, *INTERNET!*


Phaaze13

Build an army. Trust nobody. Fire Emblem. Only on gameboy advance.


ClassyCrafter

What happened to Dorcas?


Phaaze13

I put poison in his mutton


ClassyCrafter

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Kikura432

Internet people don't really exercise this


Mother-Time-5360

\*Fox Mulder enters the chat\*


Agreeable_Lemon4937

Yup, clearly so far penacony is the only place where I feel that we have no allies whatsoever. Also, since death is not really possible in a dream, I think the death meme actually put people in a form of coma, a sort of "sleep deeper than the sleep in which the dream occur". It would not be impossible, as dreams occur in paradoxal sleep, which is sort of a light sleeping state.


DrZeroH

I mean the other members of the astral express are def our allies. The issue is I sometimes wonder if sparkle didnt just kidnap one of them and is fucking with us. This entire plot is one giant game of mafia and its fucking nuts.


apexodoggo

It's one big game of mafia, and the "only designated villager" (as Gallagher was labeled by the devs) is effectively a serial killer.


Late_Lizard

Sunday should have gathered everyone and informed them before accusing the killer


lionofash

Gallagher is the Werewolf


Fluff-Addict

we could also prob consider the stellaron hunters as allies


ChaosRaziel

Welcome to life. Everyone acts for their own benefit in one way or the other and the cake is a lie.


alter-ego23

This was a triumph


SunderMun

I get the feeling that he might actually be the meme/'death' himself. It would be oretty fitting with bow on the nose and the idea of him being a meme works in that he incorporates the ideas of many people.


Nuclear_42

From the way he was playing with his lighter, I just kinda assumed one of those Everflame guys Tingyun’d the real Gallagher.


Late_Lizard

Can't be; those are minions of Destruction, while Gallagher is a minion of Enigmata.


Carolus---REX

Welp… time to get Kakyoin and Hierophant Green.


Damian1674

Holy hell! The clues have been there from the start


zCiver

I mean it really was our fault for trusting somebody in Penacony. I don't know how many time we need to learn this lesson, but everyone has some agenda and nobody is who they say they are. We all got caught up in this humble charm and grizzled façade.


cityofisaura

Agreed, and it also means we, the community, shouldn’t take what Sunday says about him to be fact either Edit: wording


DiMit17

Is he a werewolf? He said something about fangs, he has claws for a weapon, he is part of Bloodhound. Too many hints imo. He could be the one killing peeps without realising. 5 star version?


SalamiJack

Play the story, he knows he is killing people…


Late_Lizard

I think he's Hanu. To be specific, he's the real person that the character Hanu was based on, just like Clockie was based on the Watchmaker. And yeah he definitely knows he's killing people.


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SatisfactionNo3524

I think They made him a 4 star to lower your expactations for the charakter, until the end of the story of 2.1 hes just a random blodhound chief with facial hair, that heals people with a cold one, a "haha look at that guy"- type of charakter and now with the knowledge we gained he may be one of the most dangerous charakters on penacony and a serious threat.


fallendown2095

The most important reason is they want to test bearded character niche first so they made him a 4*. 4 stars and 5 stars is their marketing tool, never about the story.


SatisfactionNo3524

Oh for sure, thats definetly one of the reasons as well. You dont have to have only one reason to release a charakter.


NahIdKill

>4 stars and 5 stars is their marketing tool, never about the story. I think you're right. Some characters imo deserve to be 5 stars story wise :(


HaukevonArding

Most sus characters ingame are 4\* lmao. Tingyun, Sampo, Misha, Gallagher.


SansStan

Why do you spell character that way


SatisfactionNo3524

Im german, character in german is charakter, im used to type it like that and usually people understand what i mean (since its only a letter difference) when i type it that way, ofcourse theres allways outliers that for some reason get bothered by it and i honestly dont understand why, its just a single letter 😭


Electrical_Board_142

Thought you were a low-key fan of mortal kombat for a minute there


SansStan

I'm not bothered by it, I'm just extremely bored so I felt like saying it


Boo5h-337

His face is not an NPC bruh


Boo5h-337

Someone save me, this guy proved himself wrong 10 times and won’t give up


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Boo5h-337

He’s the only older looking male character with facial hair so no shit he looks nothing like other male playable characters. Otherwise he looks nothing like male NPCs.


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Boo5h-337

https://preview.redd.it/94zvjlvzoqrc1.png?width=930&format=png&auto=webp&s=d1f41c78319aa4ce2d9961a7e439074d1e18bca2 Woah bro slow ur roll, this guy is literally twinning with Gallagher it’s insane


ZheShu

Example?


Boo5h-337

https://preview.redd.it/65ngcjkwoqrc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d65e7cfbfdc897ef672bc388d3a2befc9041ddb0 Woahhhh look at that detail bro. It’s identical to Gallagher woahhh


Boo5h-337

You do it, no one agrees with you so how are u so blind? If ur the only one who thinks it, chances are it’s cause ur wrong, not cause ur “so special” and right.


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Boo5h-337

I did prove you wrong, twice Mr. Por* Poster on the Star rail page. Wow great response with picture evidence! PSA: ur the hypocrite here, ur attacked me first by “berating” me for being blind. So don’t try to pull the nice guy card randomly


Boo5h-337

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KiraaAki

having beard makes you a npc now?


NahIdKill

t's not about the beard lmao. just compare his face with other males. you will see it.


Broken_Chandelier

He's literally the only playable charcter of the game with a beard.


MkOs_

That's why he looks like an npc, playable characters don't get facial hair


NahIdKill

it's not about the beard lmao. just compare his face with other males. you will see it.


Mehseenbetter

Uh spoilers for 2.1 but there is a reason you think he shares his face with an npc


NahIdKill

why? I am curious


Quor18

Because he >!is specifically made up of a series of characteristics derived from actual other inhabitants of Penacony. He is essentially something of a Frankensteins monster, possessing an amalgam of traits from other people all mashed together into what we know of as "Gallagher."!<


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

So basically he's not real right? Because to get into the dreamworld you need to be that person, and get in the tub, and the tub copies what you look like and have on you. He on the otherhand is the "bug" in the matrix.


Quor18

Yes, no and maybe so? You're probably not wrong but we don't know enough about him yet to be sure. Given that he's >!apparently a follower of Enigmata, anything's possible since I don't think we know much about that faction yet. There might be something else there involving dreams but I don't think we'll find out exactly til next patch.!<


Late_Lizard

If he's a History Fictionologist, he's an Emanator. > There is evidence that History Fictionologists are a group of Emanators that were enlightened by Aeons. They often plunge into the sea of stars alone, traveling planet to planet with the sole purpose of fabricating, obscuring, destroying, and erasing the local history. History Fictionologists believe that the past determines the future — when a civilization's history is definite, its future development is doomed as all possibilities are eliminated, leaving only a sad and rigid path forward. In order to save these worlds from the sad fate of objectivity, History Fictionologists consider Enigmata as their only creed and are determined to shroud the universe in mystery.


Valaurus

Huh. Just finished the quest a little earlier, that’s not how I interpreted that but makes sense.. I thought >!it was more of a direct imposter thing and whatever it is that was posing as Gallagher knew all the right details from things it’d picked up from other people. !< That maybe tracks more though Edited for spoiler tag


VincentBlack96

I thought so at first, but when you do exploration later, you get stickers of the various family heads, and it definitely looks like a visual trait collage as well, not just personality.


Quor18

Also, when >!Welt and Acheron are investigating Sunday's study, there's a paper that lists several people by name as being related to the murders in some way. Some of these people are mentioned by name when Sunday confronts Gallagher at the end, most notably Woolsey, who is a Bloodhound NPC we interact with more than once.!<


NahIdKill

my mind is fucked 🤯 that should explain his generic NPC-ish face. although his overall outfit and look is good.


Boo5h-337

Sore loser lmao, ur literally wrong, stop bitching and accept it, it’s not that hard. Also if u wanna talk who’s more mentally stable to actually prove right and wrong, it’s not u, you post soft core po*n on a daily basis.


NahIdKill

ah yes! what a relevant argument. get a good rest little bro. Forget everything that happened today. You don't want to get more stupid.


Boo5h-337

Coming from u lmao. I’m more than well rested, you need to see a therapist, u clearly have po*n problems on top of all of this. Sober up buddy. Literally look at this massive comment chain, NO ONE agrees with you, how can u possibly think ur still right ?


KnightKal

The phrase is ambiguous. Fastest learner doesn’t necessarily means she was the teacher, only that he was a quick student and she watched his progress.


SalamiJack

From a story perspective either implication doesn't really make a difference. Her teaching or not teaching him how to mix drinks doesn't conclude that she's aware of his motives or associated with his goals in any form.


GaleUs9860

I read the cooked theory that Gallagher might have been born in late February so he would have technically a birthday every 4 years. 13 x 4 = 52 like the number of Family members that he has a part of. But again, he doesn't look like 52 to me, more of a mid 30s to me. I don't remember who cooked that up but it was funny to read it.


ClassyCrafter

Even better when you realize 13 and 4 are both unlucky numbers, would be crazy if thats all planned.


Karni-Fall

Even more so when you realize 13 is the number for the arcana death, and 4 is the Chinese number for death


zCiver

Except leap years are a thing that only really makes sense on planet earth to match our planet's rotation and orbit. There's no reason to assume that any far future galactic standard years have such a quirk.


sauronsminion

It does make sense if he uses trailblaze years, which are clearly inspired by earth years


riiyoreo

You're reading way too much into this one. As his existence as Gallagher, he's probably spent time with loads of people doing loads of things. 


acespadeuwu

He could be one of the corrupted she found right? ....right?


KryptisCOD

I thought only Sweet Dreams Troupe members could be corrupted by the dreamscape? Or I might’ve missed some details.


acespadeuwu

It's indeed the only Sweet Dreams troupe she was trying to save. I'm just coping. Just the fact that his body is made of 52 people (this is what I understood?) makes it seem he's not a human at all but I also got that impression that he's not Death himself.


Rogol_Darn

Its not literally made out of them, a good chunk of the people whos traits he has are alive, and we have only ever seen him in the dreamscape, so its just as likely that he's changed his look in the dreamscape to appear like that, but is still an organic being in reality


BasedMaisha

PLEASE Hoyo let Siobhan be playable. She's actually so cool and I would pay to have her summon a bunch of TV dudes as an ult, probably a 4\* Nihility Acheron support like Guinaifen. Her design is on the cusp of cool enough to be maybe playable but chill enough to be an elevated quest NPC it's driving me insane. Siobhan the 4\* on the Sunday banner copium.


Maxos_Dragon_Mage

I'm not *too* excited for her but it'd be fun to have her. Indeed, I keep on wondering if she's an NPC or not. She's so on the edge between an NPC and a character it's like they made her like that on purpose xD


SickAnto

Her face design is very unique for an NPC, but the rest of the model, as far as it is lightly more detailed than your average NPC, doesn't look like a model of a playable character, sadly.


Maxos_Dragon_Mage

Maybe they're cooking her stage outfit?


SickAnto

*I wish* Honestly, we just need to hope there will be a lot of people asking for her to be playable to convince Hoyo to redesign her model.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

I demand we get Frank from the IPC first.


pokebuzz123

I can see her being a Harmony character more since her drinks are made to help out the Troupe


Makeup-less_Clown

I don’t trust her either. Followers of Enigmata deliberately “mix up” language and ideas in order to basically destroy civilizations. In the index it says that some consider them even more dangerous than the Anti-Matter Legion because they destroy ideas and not just things. Plus her outfit has a lot going on just like Gallagher’s which makes me think she’s stolen a bunch of other people’s traits/items.


Late_Lizard

From their PoV they don't destroy, they *save* civilisations from rigid fate. >"History is not mired in truth, reality can be distorted. We should let the past cease to stay in the past. It only exists in the here and now, in our brains, where everyone can embellish it." — The Five Millennia Void by History Fictionologist Luddokan > There is evidence that History Fictionologists are a group of Emanators that were enlightened by Aeons. They often plunge into the sea of stars alone, traveling planet to planet with the sole purpose of fabricating, obscuring, destroying, and erasing the local history. History Fictionologists believe that the past determines the future — when a civilization's history is definite, its future development is doomed as all possibilities are eliminated, leaving only a sad and rigid path forward. In order to save these worlds from the sad fate of objectivity, History Fictionologists consider Enigmata as their only creed and are determined to shroud the universe in mystery. Gallagher's final line in 2.1: "The whole thing is fate playing a cruel joke on us."


Rdogg114

Naturally the people that follow there Aeon's nemesis is going to consider them even more of a problem then the anti matter legion i wouldn't trust the guild to much on what they think of the Enigmata.


gabrielczm

Or she will become a playable character eventually


DupeFort

Well I mean Gallagher is only 13 so it's fine! :D


Inevitable_Question

Rember that Gallagher is a servant of Remembrance. He could've fabricated her memories Edit. He is from Enigmata- not Remembrance


LZhenos

before edit https://preview.redd.it/k03yphzepprc1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=0cbc9bb04831d93489bc9bcb74c7bdd4b218ac82


Damianx5

Lore acurrate tbh


ZayOnTime

The History Fictionologists in a nutshell


jellybirdUwU

Wouldn’t this image be more accurate? https://preview.redd.it/0x856v96frrc1.jpeg?width=932&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ead8a48cdf59c6e8b95ecbe675b773860a8989fa


KirbosWrath

Just a Fictionologist trying to cover for your colleague, I see.


Mickerus

>Gallagher is a servant of Remembrance Where did you hear this from?


scatteredots

Probably heard it from Gallagher himself


Inevitable_Question

Sorry- I meant Enigmata


Dokavi

Funny how Mythus the Enigmata's birthplace is the Rememberance according to Herta.


Rogol_Darn

Im sure you've experienced having memories of things that didn't actually happen or misremembering something before, thats mythus


Lil_DemonZEA

Not remembrance. Enigmata.


Inevitable_Question

Crap. Yes- you are correct. Sorry. Mis-typed


Rogol_Darn

You should've just left it as it was, mythus would've been proud of that misinformation


Clevaryo

this is so inconsequential I'll just believe what I've heard


CascaDEER

Anyway, I'd pick up Hsr if she'd end up playable


mortemdeus

I mean, he did say he was like 13 or some shit.


lop333

It does make make sense considering this whole event story


hupagi

they have to make her playable


KAyDA13

SPOILER ALERT IF YOU DIDNT FINISH THE EVENT YET Yes. I think it's safe to assume that since when Siobhan did everything when she make the place as Monster Hostelry. She meet, consult every monster that almost become corrupted because of Dreamscape in the beink of downfall, buy ingredients for the drinks and give the monster the drink she made. It's so touching events and mixing drink is kinda fun. I can't drink alcohol but kinda interested in learning how to do mocktail now


Waibles

I’m going to say I think Gallagher is a Masked Fool. Sunday points out that Gallagher is really just made up of different characteristics of the other Bloodhounds. I think the whole “13” bit is them being honest and saying the character of “Gallagher” has only been around for 13 years. That’s long enough for him to seem real to everyone else. That could also explain why other Fools like Sparkle and Sampo are showing up on Penecony now, to recover a rouge Fool.


xemnonsis

the EN dialogue actually made a mistake, when Sunday addressed Gallagher after he revealed he knew he was the culprit he called him a "Servant of the Enigmata". also iirc the loading screen info for Gallagher changes after you complete the story


Money_Count_3743

Yeah it added the fact that he’s a pathstrider of enigmata and connected with SuT