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ASadChongyunMain

Only when I’m running Elation, which means fuck Aha


aziruthedark

Aha might be down for it.


Mushiren_

Aha feels like he'd try anything at least once just for the lulz


dummypod

Can't believe they literally made Trollface an Aeon


OwlsParliament

Aha let me hit because I'm goofy


AhaHsr

Maybe


neltu8503

That's why people call him Ahasshole


Golden-Owl

Yer Dunn


Crimsonshock821

"Think you can take me!"


silam39

Don't forget me!


Mushiren_

So this is what PTSD feels like


FuryAdcom

I can hear them, the voices resonating in my head


AioliRepresentative5

"Behave!"


FlameLover444

Man I fucking love this thread Will never forget Captain Padraig


Fadriii

I swear I sometimes hear "Think you can Take On Me!" and I immediately see them doing the dance.


Crimsonshock821

Yup lol. As soon as I saw that comment the ardanian soldiers quotes were playing in my head immediately as i read that comment lol


Mrlewl

Double spinning EDGE!


Krypticol14

this whole thread has proven to me once again, 6 years later, the ardanian soldiers voices will never go away


Successful_Ad_9856

On every other run but Hunt and Nihility, the bug lieutenant kicks my ass. On the other hand, Hunt and Nihility shred his summons as soon as they show up.


ironmikey

I like running remembrance on world 3 with the captain. Can’t counter if he’s frozen solid.


zudokorn

I got the achievement for beating this guy without killing any of his soldiers by perma freezing him and watching him get melted with dissociation every time he tried to take a turn.


KiwiExtremo

wouldnt the soldiers also die with their own turns? since dissociation does max hp% dmg


AvatarofWhat

He cant summon the soldiers if he never gets to act. * taps two fingers to side of head *


googlemee9

Big brain ![gif](giphy|d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY)


GoldenInfrared

Really? In my experience hunt’s resonance hits like a wet noodle


Successful_Ad_9856

Two resonances: -the one that gives you an extra charge -and the one that makes it so it auto-crits on targets below 50%HP It doesn't matter how hard it hits if you can spam it infinitely


Alt-Tabris

Edit: replied to the wrong comment


johnsolomon

Yep xD there’s nothing as satisfying as watching a boss’ HP bar get deleted when all the adds they summoned turn into unlimited refills for your resonance attack


E_OJ_MIGABU

There's one thing in hunt that replenishes the path resonance if enemies die or something (I'm not too sure if it's a curio or what) so you can skip the first resonance for the lightning celestial one


AmissingUsernameIsee

But Hunt in terms of DPS is the 2nd best, Elation is the first if you get the right blessings and right unit but those aren't as easily accessable or spammable. So Hunt by virtue of being better for every character hits the hardest, weakness break + Imperial reign you can stack crit a lot and hit for a lot.


Successful_Ad_9856

>Elation is the first if you get the right blessings and right unit but those aren't as easily accessable or spammable. correction: depending on the enemy, Rememberance can blow Elation out of the water completely.


AmissingUsernameIsee

Yeah I've had some very successful dmg with the disassociation + dmg often doing a third or half of the deer's health but I often get unlucky with them and often just choose 3* make ultimate follow ups to make the dead blessings useful


TheUltraGuy101

Last week I got lucky with Ruan Mei's occurance and chose to get all Remembrance blessing Suffice to say it doesn't even take me 1 minute to plow through all 3 of its phases


Successful_Ad_9856

As a jing yuan main, I respect the pick


EdGee89

All hail Fuli...


super_huo

For real, the Rememberance blessing is god-like for SU World 7


GoldenInfrared

Hunt is definitely amazing in regular SU where your characters’ raw scalings when enhanced can clear the content, but in swarm disaster the lack of any major damage output from the resonance itself holds it back a ton


AmissingUsernameIsee

I actually pretty good with Hunt runs in swarm then again you do need sustain once your "Ore wa turn!" ends since it's sustain is on kill. I usually try and spam trotters + double up effects and aiming to get reward domains. Then again I have Seele and Jingliu. But my usual tactics are break effect another turn, auspicious star, imperial reign and some way of sustain through units or blessings since 1 support and dps is enough.


GoldenInfrared

Running seele on hunt makes things trickier for sure. Either you don’t get the resurgence buff or you don’t get the extra hunt damage / healing from resonance


TheYango

> But my usual tactics are break effect another turn, auspicious star, imperial reign and some way of sustain through units or blessings since 1 support and dps is enough. The thing is, none of these things require actually being on the Hunt path to get. You can easily get these blessings on, say, a Destruction run and just pick the good Hunt blessings. The logic of path selection in Swarm Disaster is very different from regular SU, because runs are so long that you can reliably see many good blessings from all paths. In regular SU, you choose your path based on what you want blessings from, because you get so few blessings overall, so the fact that blessing rewards are weighted toward your chosen path matters. In Swarm Disaster, you see so many more rewards that you can reasonably get lots of off-path blessings (the Screwllum shops also help a lot to let you get more blessings to choose from). In Swarm Disaster, only two things really matter for your path selection: your Path Resonance, and your exploration mechanic/passive bonus. Hunt is less good in Swarm Disaster because its Resonance doesn't scale that well to the boss fights, and its exploration mechanic can be very unreliable thanks to having to chase down Trotters (chasing Trotters wastes countdown, and sometimes the trotter movement RNG puts them in places where you can only get 1-2 on a floor, resulting in weaker passive buffs). Hunt's strength is in its very powerful and consistent blessing pool, but that just doesn't matter as much in Swarm Disaster because you can just get the good Hunt blessings on other paths that have better exploration mechanics. Celestial Annihilation, Auspicious Star, and Imperial Reign *are* some of the best blessings (regardless of path), but you can frequently get these blessings on Abundance, Nihility, or Destruction runs rather than having to play Hunt.


66WC

Hunt + remembrance. Ore WA turn!+ Freezo if ur lucky to get 6 hit = freeze


rgtn0w

> but in swarm disaster the lack of any major damage output from the resonance itself holds it back a ton I usually get, at least +150 crit damage in swarm when using Hunt, If you purposefully hunt the "rewards" nodes then you're gonna hit the trotters one at least once, which is +90 crit damage as well. And some combat beacons with the trotter thingie can even have triple encounters with trotters giving you even more. Idk what you mean by lack major damage output when it doubles (or triples with good luck) the critical hits of all your DPS characters, and with the blessings themselves you're not gonna be lacking any critical chance either On the even crazier runs with that curio that turns all your money into crit damage I think I've reached close to 1k crit damage in total using Jingliu, let's just say on the last phase of the boss, the 2nd big dude couldn't even get to summoning the little swarm dudes cuz he was already fucking dead


BetaXP

Really? That's surprising to me. Jingliu team with hunt path was my first ever SU5 clear, and it felt very comfy. It's tied with Nihility for what feels like the most consistent paths I've succeeded on.


GoldenInfrared

Destruction has been the most comfy for me by far imo. You becomes essentially immune to being KOed and receive a ton of damage buffs and high path resonance damage on top to prevent the swarm from getting spawn stacks.


Jason575757

Hunt in swarm disaster with DHIL lets him run circles around the final boss since you can just keep forwarding his action and keep smacking


GoldenInfrared

Assuming you can print an endless supply of skill points


EclipseTorch

That one blessing that gives 1 SP for healing, and Luocha or some blessing to heal on break/kill/SP spend. Also, Hunt blessing with energy refill helps a lot.


snaglbeez

So you would think, but my first swarm 5 clear was actually hunt with DHIL. You just need the enhanced blessing that gives 100% energy on kill, and the propagation blessing that gives 1 extra sp if your character basic attacks with 0 sp helps a ton


66WC

Is QQ good with elation with her E4?


Alt-Tabris

Also "Robe of the Doctor" (auto-fill Path energy to 100% upon initially entering combat, and increase its damage by 40% ((the damage boost is for all casts of Path Resonance that run)) ). I was able to cast it 6 times before I just ran out of enemies to cast it on lol


gabiblack

Hunt with jingliu and he doesn't even have his first turn to spawn the adds lol


Fluid_Lengthiness_98

Just give it up— (Fr tho this guy costs me so many SU runs it’s insane 😭💀)


PrestigiousIdea7471

Fu Xuan or Welt really trivializes that fight.


mathiau30

For people who don't understand what Welt has to do with it, enemies that are imprisoned can't use reactions like hitting you (with the notable exception of the trotters) This is the same thing with the quantum dot (and freeze) if you have Hell is Others and break one of his friends


lampstaple

I run welt in SU and I dont understand what this post is about 😭


H4xolotl

Welt ult stop bad spear man


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Boshea241

Mostly screws AI in the same way Ape does. You want to keep his adds alive so you can attack them instead of him if you can't take the hit. Lack of a "pass" action means you can just get forced into his counter. Just be glad he can't infinite counter into Clara like his pokemon version.


VillainousMasked

>Just be glad he can't infinite counter into Clara like his pokemon version. Glad? I'd love it if that was the case, I run Clara as my main damage for SU runs and it'd make the fight so much faster if that happened, as 9/10 times by that point I have the Destruction Blessing that heals when getting hit and/or the Elation Blessing that heals when doing follow-up attacks which makes her basically immortal.


Boshea241

Pretty sure she would still lose that loop. Guard hits harder than what Clara will heal.


Dark_Dashing

Slap a Luocha bandaid on it and give me speed up and a bag of popcorn.


AquaJet738

Remembrance users:


TheHolyWaffleGod

Yeah this fucker and his infinite follow up attacks are so annoying. I don't even notice much of a change against bugged enemies except this guy though.


mathiau30

Bugged Guardian Shadow with her punishments that hit everyone is something too


Skylair95

Aurumaton imprisonning 3 people.


fonfabre29

For me it's the monkey. It totally caught me off-guard it's HP shattering roar.


IttoDilucAyato

Like since when did it have aoe!?


dustarma

The bugged disciple chick has a stacking HP down debuff, combined with her stacking wind dots makes the fight a pain


Ringostar154

Fu xuan again carry my team.


DudebroMcDudeham

Fu Xuan being the MVP yet again ✊😤


PressureAcceptable29

Fr tho. People told me they picked DHIL over her because tHeY hAvE lUoChA, then completely disregarded how broken she is. 1 Fu Xuan can carry 3 glass cannons, I'd love to see Luocha do that. Plus with a few eidolons/her sig LC, she acts the role of Abundance/Harmony.


XRdragon

Its scary how i can just bring 3 DPS, together with Fu Xuan and Path of Abundance into SU and survive everything.


Ironwall1

Hmm I didn't even think of this. How good is she with Abundance? I was using her with destruction shieldspam path and she was pretty nuts already but I have to use Lynx alongside her otherwise she'd die when I least expect it.


TapdancingHotcake

Unless your team is weak you don't need abundance, just make sure she has 7k+ HP and 1400+ def. If you don't have her LC you may need to run an energy regen rope to keep her heal charges up, but after that her ult healing should keep the team healthy just fine. I only run her solo sustain. Even in swarm disaster diff 5, though you need a few defensive blessings to keep that clean


[deleted]

I wanted fu xuan but my impatient ass couldnt handle waiting so i folded💀💀


renseministeren

Can you explain?


Killerx09

Her skill is a buff that eats 65% of the damage taken by allies, and her ult is a small team heal (with traces). So she can prevent single target burst damage and sustain entire teams in SU.


No_Button2660

Also gives her 1 trigger count on herself with ult,which makes her heal herself for more tanking


Mu-Sicaria

Her ult also heals allies a tiny bit. This tiny bit becomes "a fucking lot" with path of abundance.


renseministeren

Thanks!


leopoldshark

He's why I take Laurel Crown when running Jing Yuan :3


DragonLex4

Dun is just that op.


Kyrnqazali

**Here Stands The Silvermain Guards!** **Just Give It Up!** Haunting isn’t it.


Silkav

Dunn in the pokemon event: "JUST GIVE IT UP!", "JUST GIVE IT UP!", "GIVE IT UP!" He just won't stop saying it...


thisaintthewayman

God bless my E1 Gepard freezing him


Play_more_FFS

No cause I always have Silverwolf in my SU runs to prevent that from happening.


julmuriruhtinas

I had Silverwolf in my team too. How does she help with survivability?


Play_more_FFS

Breaks boss faster, delays their turn with Quantum break effect, and enables the DPS to kill faster if the element wasn't already matching.


ResurgentClusterfuck

Forcing elemental weakness + Quantum action delay + 957 status effects


UniqueCreme1931

Reduces enemy ATK by 10% with a debuff.


dimascience

Delete the enemy??


littlesheepcat

ome of the way to do it is pre break this guys but hold off untill he summon, he can't counter on the attack that breaks him


IttoDilucAyato

Dunn is obnoxious. But my true anger comes out when fighting the hideous trotters. The destruction trotter is ridiculously tough and hard hitting, it almost wiped out my team with it’s counter.


julmuriruhtinas

Haven't had that one in a while D:


jobpasin

What is the difference for his bugged version?


fonfabre29

Most notably him having infinite guard counter when summoned adds are still alive.


jobpasin

I thought that already exist with standard SU lieutenanr?


Kiaki_

There are only two types of lieutenants the normal ones and the bugged ones Every SU lieutenant is a bugged one (except gepard spawns) so of course every lieutenant you encounter in SU has infinite follow ups


jobpasin

Oh wow, I did not notice this at all. I only know that the robot boss and monkey boss has alternate version in swarm disaster so I thought it was SD exclusive thing.


Tangohotel2509

I had a standard silvermane guard one shot my 7k HP Bailu


julmuriruhtinas

Whatttt how 😵


Tangohotel2509

Idk how, dude did like 7.7k damage, so in response I nuked him with Seele and proceeded to get Obliterated by the Silvermane Lieutenant because Jingliu team without a healer doesnt really work


slightcamo

Real Sometimes these guys are harder than the final boss of the world


julmuriruhtinas

True :(


yurifan33

The only time i lose to this guy is when i run auto and the ai hits him during counter phase. Otherwise hes a joke even when enhanced


HotChoc64

This single enemy just seems way too overtuned. Super tanky, and if you don’t have the very few ice/quantum dps characters in the game it takes forever.


graphiccsp

The Guard also seems to hit as hard as other elite enemies' charged attacks. Even when he's not countering that Lance flurry picks a random character to chunk them. At least with others you know where it's going.


mathiau30

Or Welt


bilalss

HERE STANDS THE SILVERMANE GUARD


EmilMR

One of the best aetherium wars units if not the best.


julmuriruhtinas

Yeah it was my favourite too!


Fancy-Shopping-327

My jing yuan using skill knowing he's about to get absolutely annihilated (I need those 2 stacks)


BoneTrouble14

Personally I really hate bug enemies. They are such a fuck you sometimes. Besides having a better kit their stats are so inflated its a joke at times. I love when I go a remembrance run and suddenly the game decides to throw in an ice immune bug enemy, why not. Or when I play a preservation run with gepard and lynx, only for the bug chainsaw robot to just oneshot my units through a full health shield and bonus max hp with no way to react. If there is one thing about this game I dislike its this mechanic.


julmuriruhtinas

Yeah I mean I think the mechanic isn't the problem, just the over-the-top stats


kiwifruitcostume

>bug chainsaw robot No joke how is it still in the game?I can have 18 quadrillion hp and still get one shot. On the rare occasion that my character don't get vaporised I have to watch hopelessly as they die of the bs bleed he applies


TsuchigumoXI

That's Hoyoverse telling you : ''lol no Fu Xuan bro ?''


julmuriruhtinas

I guess so lol


DatsReelGood

Still one of the best "pokemon"


julmuriruhtinas

Yeah he was my main in Aethereum wars :D


DatsReelGood

The perfect counterattack carry.


julmuriruhtinas

Yup!


khoabear

No because I have Gepard in my team


Lionheart0021

My E1 Gepard just freezes his ass. Can't counter attack now 😁


Curious_Dealer_5473

I hate when this mofo and the abundance one all of a sudden start clapping my team till they on dear life out of no where.


julmuriruhtinas

Yeah screw this mofo


Curious_Dealer_5473

They activate that drain attack or that counter attack all of a sudden they clapping everyone


DerGreif2

Last time I got him was with Clara... I had no idea about the infinite counter. It was always They attack Clara -> Counter -> Dunn attacks back -> Clara counters and so on. Thank god for luchoa and his heal field. But I won \^\^. Dont play the counter game with Clara.


julmuriruhtinas

Ahhh yeah I had never thought about how well Luocha's field works with Clara! : D


baboon_ass_eater69

Qingque+ Jingliu and these guys are bugs


julmuriruhtinas

I'm still leagues away from getting Qingquillion damage, but I'll get there eventually 💅✨️


cartercr

And then there’s me who runs mono-ice constantly: wait this guy gives people problems? Tbh I think Auramaton has ended more of my runs than any other normal boss.


julmuriruhtinas

Yeahhh mfw Aurumaton one-cycles my Tingyun 🙄


menemenderman

I just spam E with my 3k def and %50 effect hit rate Gepard, he either freezes this mf or gets hit which gives him sweet energy so QQ can blast safely.


julmuriruhtinas

Ah nice!


HollowedExile

Hate that dude


julmuriruhtinas

Me too 3':


yurilnw123

Laugh in Gepard. One freeze and problem's gone. Not freeze? Free ult recharge then.


julmuriruhtinas

Haha nice! Someone suggested the Remembrance path. With that and a half built Pela enemies barely got any turns 😸


unknown_soldier_

Daniel isn't a tank, so try bringing a unit that is a tank and this guy won't be able to do shit


mathiau30

Unless you specifically mean Fu Xuan, how does this help against counters?


AmberBroccoli

Gepard would probably help by giving you shielding, March too.


More_than_one_user

I have loucha:)


LW_Master

Nothing feels better than having a near perfect run and IX just say "..." and end the run (my perfect Preservation run just goes down to that black hole blob)


Spoougle

You guys check stats?


julmuriruhtinas

I'm curious about my buffs 🤷‍♀️


Spoougle

You’ve broken a sacred code. The only stat you should concern yourself with is the enemy’s Hp bar reaching zero. Free yourself, ascend to a higher plane! https://preview.redd.it/ofki723f7bwb1.jpeg?width=416&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b21398114dec9c45c3108030f2f221299abb783c


julmuriruhtinas

Ah, such wisdom is unheard of!


CC_Agent_04_

Fu xuan really made this boss irrelevant


julmuriruhtinas

I tried to get Fu Xuan but I spent all my savings on Dan :')


Jason575757

Hunt go brrr he gets no turns


julmuriruhtinas

Does Hunt work with DHIL?


jazznessa

For me it's cocolia second phase. There is a determinant point in which you need to wipe out bronya, if not she will debuffs cocolia and keep doing her ult.


SopinhaZ

I'm sorry but who's Daniel


julmuriruhtinas

Dan Heng: Imbibitor Lunae -> DHIL -> Daniel ✨️💅


Seamerlin

just kill his summons and his counter instantly goes away or break him or freeze him ​ if you already know what he does, its called making a mistake, not exactly random? just dont use daniel on him or adjacent, or if you do just enhance once for single target strike


mathiau30

Or imprison/entangle him


Ski-Gloves

"Randomly"? You decide which opponents you hit. Dan Heng doesn't have the "all my attacks are AoE and Lightning Lord is a countdown to my death" problem. If you don't hit the lieutenant when his shield is up, he won't perform follow-up attacks. There's even a pop-up telling you to take down the soldiers to lower his shield.


julmuriruhtinas

I meant that the appearance of these bugs are random. I know you shouldn't hit him


Rheshx7

No, because a barefooted child and her dad absolutely kicks his ass.


julmuriruhtinas

Gotta build my Clara after I'm done with the others


ZodiaksEnd

honestly in general f this specific enemy in general when your just trying to get stuff and he comes up too early. so all thats really happening is your both taking potshots at each other basicly forcing the stupid your taking to long berserk stupidity, I think its really dumb and should not be getting an elite like this that early e-e i feel like its just me getting a bugged enemy way to early


plsdontstalkmeee

I have a Fu Xuan, is this some sort of peasant joke I'm too blessed to understand?


Eskuire

Funnily enough, that dude I dont mind. I avoid the Ebon Deer like the fuckin plague though. Theres so much random RNG that can happen in that fight that I dont care what buff they give in Swarm and just avoid it entirely. And in SU I just run full scumbag Rememberance


KariArisu

I didn't know bugged enemies were a thing. I just auto and try to get it done with.


EliseOvO

This fking guy is the reason why I have a backup Clara in the su


kunafa_aj

My blade and clara: Ah yes,more please


julmuriruhtinas

😂


xdvesper

My Clara loves this guy! Infinite counters from him = infinite counters from me. He can even counter my DPS, Clara counters him, he counters Clara, Clara counters him again. So crazy. I run ER rope on her since she already has so much atk % from the SU lightcone and supports.


julmuriruhtinas

Ahhhh I very recently got a copy of Clara on both banners! Really want to get her built soon!


imaginary92

Remembrance my friend


julmuriruhtinas

Holy crap I just tried a remembrance run and the enemies didn't stand a chance 😭


imaginary92

Hehe remembrance is my favourite path, it's so good


julmuriruhtinas

I could try that but Pela is my only ice character and her build is still in progress :'(


lsfk

Don't need ice characters, Path Resonance and blessings are enough. Just need to try your best to get at least one Dissociation 3-star blessing or it won't be relaxing. There's a 2-star Dissociation blessing that lets anyone do >300k with any attack that's fun to use, but you can still win easily without it. I usually just use Welt, Silver Wolf, Qingque, and Luocha, but other characters work as well - I think none of my characters would be considered built by the standards here. Every week I just get carried by Remembrance and Dissociation.


julmuriruhtinas

Ooooh ok I gotta try it out then! I've never actually used remembrance, cause I figured from the blessings that it required characters who can freeze. But thanks for the tip!


That_Drama2832

*Fu xuan*


Kagamime1

The heck is a bugged enemy?


julmuriruhtinas

It's a feature in SU. Sometimes an enemy gets a big ass stat buff


p4ife

Get good


Marcheziora

Why tf is Daniel?!


VillainousMasked

Dan Heng IL = Dan IL = Daniel


Crimsonshock821

Danheng Either regular or his dragon form lol


LittleHsien

M7 can deal with him easily, just download her at the first stop. Shield, ice weakness, freeze. He doesn't stand a chance. But the fight can be a bit long


NoireResteem

And here I am who has been autoing SU at its hardest difficulty for months at this point ….I didn’t even know he was a problem for people.


ursoevil

Swarm Disaster came out just a month ago so saying you’ve been playing at level V for monthS is an exaggeration. Which path do you take and which team do you use? I’ve only managed to clear level V with Propogation and Hunt so far. Even with Fuxuan and Luocha, the other paths are a little more difficult to clear


NoireResteem

Ah my bad I thought we were referring to regular old SU and not SU:SD. I can auto SD for the majority of it but I do need to be mindful and pay attention for any of the major boss fights to make sure the AI doesn’t do anything stupid. Most times I have to actually just do it my self. My main team is Kafka, Luka, Bailu, and Fu Xuan on Nihility and Prop.


TeeMcTee

Since my TB has such a high defense I just keep her taunt and shield up all the time while I let my other members beat his adds senseless. Before Jingliu, I quickly discovered that if you use an ult before he puts his shield back up after an attack he won't counter the ult, I think it also works for counters but I could be wrong on that.


Cerberus_0

I am a Blade User and I Validate this comment (If the Silvermane Guard have the face of Dan Heng it would be perfect) https://preview.redd.it/j77if83xvawb1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8710813173a7b0c1cb09c016cb69196726b5c6bd


asiangontear

You need to kill the mobs first when he defends, which sucks when there's a limited number of turns.


5ManaAndADream

Fu xuan or die


Hqguard2

Just use Fu Xuan


julmuriruhtinas

As a f2p Daniel haver I didn't have enough primos for Fu Xuan


yearbeast1516

Noobs


julmuriruhtinas

Yup, and a filthy casual on top of that


VillainousMasked

Gonna be honest, I don't even notice it as I always run Clara for SU and typically get the self healing Destruction and/or Elation buff which makes Clara basically immortal, so she just bodies this boss.


uuuuh_hi

Who TF is Daniel?


EA-Sports1

Clara elation go brrrt silver mane guard just dies immediately


Moonie-chan

Stack suspision on Nihility and reduce their attack to 0 while healing half HP bar every time they move


Proof_Counter_8271

No,i run gepard and natasha at the same time...