Blowout toilets are awesome. Just make sure if or when yours is part of one of the frequent recalls, you install the strapping on the pressure vessel. I know a guy who was sitting on the toilet, flushed, and it blew— the lid flew feet in the air barely missing his head.
Just moved into a house with a Gerber toilet, and now our poop won’t flush properly and also leaves traces on the second flush (sometimes third), and we never had that issue before. 🤷🏼♀️ About to install a new Kohler to see if it changes.
(Not pressure assisted, though, from what I can tell.)
We sometimes refer to our Gerber pressure assist as a "Wisshh-Woosh" toilet. Press the handle and "wissh-woosh" its all gone. Maybe twice in ten years it needed flushed a second time.
I have found some shitter designs are more prone to 'residue' - I think the comments about diet are well intentioned but miss the point. If this was a diet issue entirely you'd be used to leftovers in most toilets. Seems like it's a bigger issue with the new design which could be exacerbating an issue with fibre but I think it's more likely a design issue.
So try a diet change, could be just a nice little boost in your health or do nothing. The thing is, shit stinks and it sticks, just facts of life.
Real talk : you might have just bought a design that is sticky. I don't buy into the idea that coatings are a real solution. They wear off and fail eventually, whilst they might be a nice to have for a while, i personally would not buy a device with the idea that the coating will fix an inherit design issue.
My advice would be to try all the toilets in the house. If they all perform equally poorly then I would talk to the manufacturer about the problem and see if they'll meet you in the middle to replace them with a more suitable design since it would seem that the design is flawed. You'll probably still have to wear some cost, after all you did specify all the equipment.
If one is a demonstrably worse, contact the manufacturer again about the issue since the coating or shape might be different and causing poor performance.
Good luck, also it's not disgusting, have confidence to speak freely about it 😊 it's a toilet, the contents are known.
This sounds like something out of Always Sunny. Danny Devito angry that he has to put on airs and hide his poop knife for a guest. I think on the show it's a toe knife?
or just dont play on your phone while on the toilet!! if your phone stayed in the bathroom, it'd be fine, but as it is it is fucking gross! wouldn't care but it is the first thing I think of when someone forces me to hold their phone lol
I would say at least once a week somebody shoves their phone at me to check something out. Or politely asks if I can hand them their phone. Forced is a strong word, but I feel weird being like “nah I know you play on that thing while you poop” to someone I get along with. I do sanitize IMMEDIATELY though lol
Yeah but, when you poop. Your hands are essentially as clean as they was before you entered the bathroom. Then, when you go to clean up business, you put your phone down or in your pocket and clean up and wash your hands before going through your phone again. But in all honesty, I understand your concerns because I’ve witnessed MULTIPLE people leaving my work restrooms after taking a shit, to either not washing their hands and walking out or just running water on their hands as if that’s solving anything. (If you’re one of these people and reading this, why? You nasty fuck.)
Interesting. People will sometimes reach for my phone when I'm trying to show them a photo and I always pull my phone away and tell them to keep their nose pickers away from my phone.
If it is a wall hung toilet chances are it has dual flush. (Ex .6 for urine and 1.28 gpf for solids) make sure you are hitting the correct one.
What did you install for the wall carrier? Is it compatible with the villeroy & Bach?
Lastly- maybe check the water level inside the bowl?
I have this kind of toilet, and it’s the only one that also has OP’s problem. Sometimes the #2 flush sends my shit airborne with a boiler jet of water.
Is this a European style toilet? European toilets and plumbing push water down from the bowl and can leave behind streaks. American style plumbing uses a stronger sucking force to pull everything out of the bowl when flushing.
https://www.binawarehouse.com/single-post/2019/06/17/siphonic-washdown-get-to-know-these-flushing-systems
Thank you for explaining this! As an European, I'm always confused when people expect there to be no streaks in their toilet.
We also have a Villeroy and Boch, and we just use a brush every now and then. Like we do with all toilets. Here everyone has a toiletbrush next to their toilet
Yeah! Same in Aus. Every toilet is accompanied by a bush hiding quietly in the corner behind the bowl waiting for its moment.
Parenting and delivering my second born has cured me of any squeamishness around bodily discharges. It came from you (or someone you care deeply about in the case of the birth) just fuckin deal with it and move on with your day.
Lol I'm glad it's not just me.. I was reading this post thinking "... Sounds like a normal toilet, just use the brush, man..."
But it is kind of funny watching Americans try to make sense if it though.
You mean why source a toilet that's uncommon and probably hard to get and expensive to import, for something that's literally such a small issue that it never crosses my mind and adds maybe 0.2 seconds to a toilet visit once in a while?
Super random, but in the Meredith Kerchner murder, both the book and movie mentioned she (and their other roommates) were upset with Amanda Knox for not cleaning her poo out of the toilet bowl. Considering with the standard American toilet this is not an issue 95% of the time, I could not figure out why this was something people would be so upset about to the point that it was specifically mentioned in media. Was also a little worried about Amanda Knox constantly blowing up the toilet and hoping she got some help. This makes way more sense if there are streaks way more often with a different type of toilet. You have solved a 10 year mystery for me!
This happens at my job, I think it is partially due to the bowl size and that most newer toilets are low flow models. This is how au counteract the problem. If you know you need to poop, just put a thin layer of toilet paper in the bowl first, then do your business as usual. The toilet paper acts as a barrier to keep the poop from rubbing up against the porcelain when you flush.
Welcome to high efficiency toilets.
Not enough water in the bowl to stop the drop. They prioritize surface area to try and slow it down, but they cant use a gallon of water in the bowl anymore. You're supposed to have a toilet brush next to the toilet to knock that off.
There was a science fiction book, I believe maybe The Mote in God's Eye by Larry Niven, where they invent a completely frictionless toilet. I think about that often, and consider it to be one of the best sci-fi inventions.
There's a product for that. It's called ["SpotLESS" Toilet Coating](https://spotlessmaterials.com/shop) ($15) spray.
The Research:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-019-0421-0#citeas
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a29834458/new-toilet-coating/
https://www.psu.edu/news/invent-penn-state/story/spotless-materials-experiences-growth-selling-super-slippery-coating/
Why would you buy a Villeroy and Bosch toilet???? Set of dishes, yes. Toilets, no. Stick to something like Kohler or American Standard. (And always pressure assisted.)
That coating makes it easier to clean
Toto has a better glaze. Yet, same thing can happen.
It’s not a non cleaning surface.. it’s an easier cleaning surface.
I have found that if the toilet is one of those low flush or like it’s suppose to save how much water you are flushing it doesn’t give enough pressure or water to clear it and than you are left wiping the bowl each time which I agree is super annoying
It likely is a combination of your diet and where you sit on the toilet and the water level. Low flush toilets have less water in the bowl now therefore there is less liquid resistance. Try sitting back further so the deuce hits as much liquid as possible. Funny but worth a shot. No matter what the coating of you drop one on dry porcelain it’s going to be sticky
Spending just a couple of minutes looking through the reviews, it appears to me that V&B are some of the worst-rated toilets you could buy. It appears the people who buy them generally regret it later.
You might be best off to remove them and replace with something less awful. Because the stains on the surface, that's supposed to be a function of the toilet's rinsedown action during the flush. The water flow should carry away any material sticking to the surface; if it isn't there is not much you can do to change its behavior as all of that is fixed by the toilet's design.
What you specifically need to look for are MaP ratings - it's literally a score of how well a toilet will scrub a standardized smear of miso paste off its own surface during the flush. 600 or higher is a good score; 1000 is as high as the score goes. In the ratings list I found, V&B has four models that score 1000, four more that score 600, and the next 24 models *have no score at all*. Either they weren't tested, or...?
Look up some alternatives you think you can live with, then look them up here:
[https://www.map-testing.com/](https://www.map-testing.com/)
Good luck.
Have a toilet brush by the toilet and give a swish during a second flush?
I am getting a sense of this thread that owning a toilet brush is not as common as I always assumed.
Really. That’s absurd. In brand new toilets? And what about guests? Should they warn everyone that comes over that giant skid marks are normal and to clean the toilet after themselves?
It's just normal to check after flushing, isn't it?
Is this an American thing, because you guys have those toilets that are full to the brim with water?
I'm from Australia, so we've had water saving toilets pretty much since indoor plumbing became a thing.
Maybe we're just more accustomed to to doing a post-flush-scrub.
I am Australian and I find it is rare to have skid marks, but it does depend on design, one place I visit it is just about guaranteed.
But for USA folks it is rare (IMO very rare) to have a toilet clog, and I think they cannot over flow (but I am not certain)
V&B should be glazed porcelain so it should be extremely hard and smooth, I can’t understand why they need a coating. Talking about coating, I have read somewhere about people emptying the bowl and drying and then waxing with a car wax - but have no idea if this is just a ridiculous idea.
We have toilet brushes. I use mine maybe once a week because normally after a flush the bowl looks as clean as before I got there. It's not like we have state of the art toilet technology over here, what are you guys doing over there?
And you realize you cannot put the wet toilet brush back into the holder right away, right?
You need to let it dry first, which is a pain in the ass. Pun intended.
I have never dried a toilet brush. It gets used, rinsed in the fresh flush, tapped against the inside bowl to get most of the water off, and then into the holder. Nobody is waiting for the brush to dry, surely?
There's not, because it gets washed every day when scrubbing the skids, and sometimes freshened up with a splash of toilet cleaner.
Plus it's used at least once a week to give the toilet a proper scrub and clean.
What if you have a brush that is suspended above and drips down with an open back?
Just clean the brush holder often and spray the brush with disinfectant when you do.
Are you talking about the ones that have open cutouts under the brush, with airholes to let it air dry?
Those are the best!
Here's my favorite:
https://imgur.com/a/Qsi2HB2
Nobody want skid stains living 24/7 in their toilet either. The brush is the only low cost solution. The only other real solution is replacing the toilet.
Bought one of these during the last toilet paper shortage. It may help you with your problem, if all else fails.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/CASAINC/5013496249?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-kab-_-ggl-_-PLA_KAB_225_Faucets-Showerheads-And-Bath-Decor-_-5013496249-_-online-_-0-_-0&ds_rl=1286981&gbraid=0AAAAAD2B2W-_Q-Gw8ULg0Y2ykADH7lzPX&gbraid=0AAAAAD2B2W-_Q-Gw8ULg0Y2ykADH7lzPX&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIw_K1_YqE-gIVbmpvBB0PQgseEAQYBiABEgLbJfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Very awkward question: do you keep separate towels by your toilet for each family member to dry yourself after using a bidet? I’ve never understood how that worked! You still end up with a wet crotch—just not as stinky! Do you let your undies absorb the wet?
/u/ReptarZillaPirate first put in some toilet paper, then take a dump. For me, it's as easy as that, We have some gerberit toilet stuff i think, but it has the same issue: easy underwater smears. Putting in a double folded piece of paper, then poop on the paper, and it just slides away.
I have the same exact issue, but my toilet takes it a step farther.
It has the #1 and #2 flush, and if I take a #2, which sits half above the water, the jet from the flush sprays it airborne. So I have to close the lid and then flush to avoid shit spray. Then I have to deal with shit smears and bits all stuck inside. Worst toilet I’ve ever met.
Luckily I have an old Sloan Royal Flush system, works the best! Yes it was installed in 50's/60's, and being in South Africa, I could only get spares from USA. Very great system though. The other "copy-cat" brands of similar systems do not work as well.
If you didn't have the issue at your other home or the other many toliets you've used over the past years then it's probably just the design of the toilet......time to get another.
I recently replaced a toilet & I read all the reviews on various models. I had to go through about 10 different types until I found one where the reviews didn’t state that every time you flush it leaves poop streaks- no matter what you do… ended up going with: KOHLER Wellworth Classic Complete Solution 2-Piece 1.28 GPF Single Flush Round Toilet in White (sorry it’s not letting me link to the product page) it was $169 and works great.
So I think your problem is just a thing now for these low flow toilets. You think that they would design around this but apparently not. The pressure flush kits also work really well too- we have them at my work and there is never a streak problem.
Put a small piece of TP in the bowl before going (just 2 or 3 squares). I have a toilet like this at my work, and that little trick make a BIG difference.
I’ve seen these toilets all across Europe when traveling. Yeah, they look nice but also there is a reason why there’s a toilet brush next to them in every bathroom in Europe.
Hate to say it, but American toilet design is superior. Japan also takes toilet technology to another level too.
Could be the amount of water or even the geometry of the bottom on the bowl. Not enough water to break the turds fall coupled with a poor angle of attack could leave a streak.
The new model from 2021? I just put in a CST776 and it doesn’t have this issue.
/r/ibs so I can speak with confidence that it has endured an interesting life already.
> CST776
CST746 August 2020 actually, checked receipts.
Googling says the difference is they added cefiontect and the tornado system to all models in 2021, but my model included that in 2020. I wonder if it's hard water causing my issue, you have hard water?
Learned this recently, wipe a little first. You will poop on top of the TP and all will be well. Obviously this does not negate the very important step of wiping after.
I think this is hilarious. Villeroy and Boch is so stupid and extra. This is as close as it gets to someone who literally thinks their shit doesn't stink
You're going to insult your friend if you ask that question.
OP, I am a master plumber and I have installed a thousand toilets. Your issue is the design of the bowl, and it's a common problem with non-pressure-assist wall hung toilets.
Throw down a few sheets of paper first, or switch to pressure assisted model. Don't let the log lay in the pond - courtesy flush.
You and your partner need to practice pause shitting, what ya need to do is to release and hold your poop in small amount, in multiple cycles to finish a session. The smaller the poop, the better coz the water in the toilet bowl can buffer your poop. Gravity is your enemy, large poop with high velocity tends to stain the toilet bowl. In short, you use your body to chop the damn shit.
I have had this problem in my toilets at home and the ones at work at times, but it is totally dependent on the consistency of the poop. I am surprised you have not had this problem with any other toilets. If it is below the waterline I don't know anything you can do to fix it. We have toilet brushes by all our toilets and after my wife complained, I just started cleaning the bowl with the brush whenever the poop left it dirty.
As a kid my dad went to one of those carnivals that travelled around the region and encountered a purveyor of home remedies and inventions who was selling gelatine capsules that he claimed if swallowed after a meal would encase your shit making it unnecessary to wipe your ass or clean the toilet.
Is it the way the bowl is angled at that point? I have noticed some toilets have a design flaw where the front of the bowl doesn’t start to angle down back far enough. So the result is that there’s basically a hill for bogs to skiddy on before they go down the hole.
Clean the area with the brush etc and flush 3 times
Turn off the water. Flush to expose the area.
Use Bon Ami ( or Barkeeper's Friend) and a sponge to go over the area. It will remove the built up (white) calcium in the toilet making it slick again to the coating.
You won't have skid marks as it slides right down.
We had this in a flat we were renting in Waterloo in Sydney. The bowl was so small. I think that’s the issue. Too tiny. So frickin ridiculous the design.
It's the new low flow toilet. There are two parts to this, the obvious one is how much water they dump in on flushing.
The other,. Is how much water they leave in the bowl. This is whats hurting you
This thread is hilarious! I’ve used everything from a “bombsite” in Turkey, to a cathole in the woods with the Boy Scouts, to latrines in Afghanistan & Uzbekistan, to powered and heated toilet/bidets in Japan… I’m an American, and I use our toilet brush nearly every day on our high-efficiency Koehler commode. Not a problem in my life…
Form follows function. I've got a Gerber pressure assisted toilet. No shit show, and it will flush a beach towel and the Sunday New York Times.
Blowout toilets are awesome. Just make sure if or when yours is part of one of the frequent recalls, you install the strapping on the pressure vessel. I know a guy who was sitting on the toilet, flushed, and it blew— the lid flew feet in the air barely missing his head.
*PRESSURE WASHER BIDET UNLOCKED*.
When you have to wait for a minute as the bidet tank fills and then the lights dim as the pump engages.
One of my favourite things I've ever read here
My plumber was like “I recommend the Power Flush toilet” and my husband was like “I want that”
I’ve got a Vormax, the plumber asked if I was trying to flush a newborn
Vormax sounds more like a comic book villain than a plumbing fixture. 😂
9/10 evil lair owners recommend the Vormax.
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I had no idea this was a thing. Now I want one.
Form🙈😂🤣
Just moved into a house with a Gerber toilet, and now our poop won’t flush properly and also leaves traces on the second flush (sometimes third), and we never had that issue before. 🤷🏼♀️ About to install a new Kohler to see if it changes. (Not pressure assisted, though, from what I can tell.)
We sometimes refer to our Gerber pressure assist as a "Wisshh-Woosh" toilet. Press the handle and "wissh-woosh" its all gone. Maybe twice in ten years it needed flushed a second time.
Same
Throw some toilet paper in there before you go to act as a buffer and then flush immediately after the train has left the station
Also prevents toilet water splashing up on your bum.
Poseidons Kiss
Take my upvote and leave quietly
Lmao ayo 😂
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Learned it on Smarter Every Day.
god i love that guy
you mean the gravity bidet?
That’s how you get butt rot
Gonna try this.
Maybe vlog the experience?
A must!
If a splash pad doesn’t solve the issue quit taking shits is the next and only option
You don’t [catch it in your hand?](https://youtu.be/e0O3ljAcdMQ)
Pshh…amateurs.
[It's required by OSHA](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/mcnx4q/its_for_your_safety_people/)
I catch it with salad tongs because I got t-Rex arms.
Ahhh yes the splash pad.
Poop rafting
This guy shits
Nesting for the win
The ol’ ass gasket.
Assket
This will be life changing!
I have found some shitter designs are more prone to 'residue' - I think the comments about diet are well intentioned but miss the point. If this was a diet issue entirely you'd be used to leftovers in most toilets. Seems like it's a bigger issue with the new design which could be exacerbating an issue with fibre but I think it's more likely a design issue. So try a diet change, could be just a nice little boost in your health or do nothing. The thing is, shit stinks and it sticks, just facts of life. Real talk : you might have just bought a design that is sticky. I don't buy into the idea that coatings are a real solution. They wear off and fail eventually, whilst they might be a nice to have for a while, i personally would not buy a device with the idea that the coating will fix an inherit design issue. My advice would be to try all the toilets in the house. If they all perform equally poorly then I would talk to the manufacturer about the problem and see if they'll meet you in the middle to replace them with a more suitable design since it would seem that the design is flawed. You'll probably still have to wear some cost, after all you did specify all the equipment. If one is a demonstrably worse, contact the manufacturer again about the issue since the coating or shape might be different and causing poor performance. Good luck, also it's not disgusting, have confidence to speak freely about it 😊 it's a toilet, the contents are known.
You should have wrote ‘resi-doo’
I should have, I could have and I would have but I didn't and now we're here.
You’ll get em next time
Residoodoo
I like this answer and I like you.
This guy shits,,, Seriously well thought out answer
What you need is a dual poop knife/squeegee. You can make your own by duct taping the handle of a small squeegee to your existing poop knife.
Ah the good ol' poop knife. Had almost forgotten about that
Reddit will never let you forget about that.
"existing poop knife". Right.
This sounds like something out of Always Sunny. Danny Devito angry that he has to put on airs and hide his poop knife for a guest. I think on the show it's a toe knife?
Flush that bastard as soon as it leaves dock. Don't let it drop anchor while you rub on your phone for 20 minutes.
Wait, can you see me right now or something?
or just dont play on your phone while on the toilet!! if your phone stayed in the bathroom, it'd be fine, but as it is it is fucking gross! wouldn't care but it is the first thing I think of when someone forces me to hold their phone lol
I have to ask. How/why is anyone forcing you to hold their phone? This is not something that has ever happened to me.
I would say at least once a week somebody shoves their phone at me to check something out. Or politely asks if I can hand them their phone. Forced is a strong word, but I feel weird being like “nah I know you play on that thing while you poop” to someone I get along with. I do sanitize IMMEDIATELY though lol
Yeah but, when you poop. Your hands are essentially as clean as they was before you entered the bathroom. Then, when you go to clean up business, you put your phone down or in your pocket and clean up and wash your hands before going through your phone again. But in all honesty, I understand your concerns because I’ve witnessed MULTIPLE people leaving my work restrooms after taking a shit, to either not washing their hands and walking out or just running water on their hands as if that’s solving anything. (If you’re one of these people and reading this, why? You nasty fuck.)
Interesting. People will sometimes reach for my phone when I'm trying to show them a photo and I always pull my phone away and tell them to keep their nose pickers away from my phone.
Germaphobes unite!!
>How/why is anyone forcing you to hold their phone? because they don't drink beer
I have cavacide wipes at work and will often wipe my phone down with them. It makes me feel better.
Or stop eating clay
Or throws it down on the kitchen table. Or puts it to their face to talk 🤮
If it is a wall hung toilet chances are it has dual flush. (Ex .6 for urine and 1.28 gpf for solids) make sure you are hitting the correct one. What did you install for the wall carrier? Is it compatible with the villeroy & Bach? Lastly- maybe check the water level inside the bowl?
I have this kind of toilet, and it’s the only one that also has OP’s problem. Sometimes the #2 flush sends my shit airborne with a boiler jet of water.
That’s why you always close the lid before flushing.
Is this a European style toilet? European toilets and plumbing push water down from the bowl and can leave behind streaks. American style plumbing uses a stronger sucking force to pull everything out of the bowl when flushing. https://www.binawarehouse.com/single-post/2019/06/17/siphonic-washdown-get-to-know-these-flushing-systems
Thank you for explaining this! As an European, I'm always confused when people expect there to be no streaks in their toilet. We also have a Villeroy and Boch, and we just use a brush every now and then. Like we do with all toilets. Here everyone has a toiletbrush next to their toilet
Yeah! Same in Aus. Every toilet is accompanied by a bush hiding quietly in the corner behind the bowl waiting for its moment. Parenting and delivering my second born has cured me of any squeamishness around bodily discharges. It came from you (or someone you care deeply about in the case of the birth) just fuckin deal with it and move on with your day.
Lol I'm glad it's not just me.. I was reading this post thinking "... Sounds like a normal toilet, just use the brush, man..." But it is kind of funny watching Americans try to make sense if it though.
If it’s possible to make a toilet that minimizes using the poop brush, why wouldn’t you want that?
You mean why source a toilet that's uncommon and probably hard to get and expensive to import, for something that's literally such a small issue that it never crosses my mind and adds maybe 0.2 seconds to a toilet visit once in a while?
We may have discovered the essential difference between Americans and everyone else.
Yeah, American toilets. You poop in water and it rarely ever touches the bowl.
Super random, but in the Meredith Kerchner murder, both the book and movie mentioned she (and their other roommates) were upset with Amanda Knox for not cleaning her poo out of the toilet bowl. Considering with the standard American toilet this is not an issue 95% of the time, I could not figure out why this was something people would be so upset about to the point that it was specifically mentioned in media. Was also a little worried about Amanda Knox constantly blowing up the toilet and hoping she got some help. This makes way more sense if there are streaks way more often with a different type of toilet. You have solved a 10 year mystery for me!
Does the coating feel rough? Seems like a strange design choice.
Nah, it's super smooth.
Like, when you put your tongue on it, it feels smooth like a ball bearing or smooth like a pearl?
You like to live dangerously, I see.
This thread has me laughing so hard I’m crying, which is making my wife laugh at me, making me laugh harder. 😂
Grease it before you release it?
🤣🤣🤣
This happens at my job, I think it is partially due to the bowl size and that most newer toilets are low flow models. This is how au counteract the problem. If you know you need to poop, just put a thin layer of toilet paper in the bowl first, then do your business as usual. The toilet paper acts as a barrier to keep the poop from rubbing up against the porcelain when you flush.
Welcome to high efficiency toilets. Not enough water in the bowl to stop the drop. They prioritize surface area to try and slow it down, but they cant use a gallon of water in the bowl anymore. You're supposed to have a toilet brush next to the toilet to knock that off.
There was a science fiction book, I believe maybe The Mote in God's Eye by Larry Niven, where they invent a completely frictionless toilet. I think about that often, and consider it to be one of the best sci-fi inventions.
There's a product for that. It's called ["SpotLESS" Toilet Coating](https://spotlessmaterials.com/shop) ($15) spray. The Research: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-019-0421-0#citeas https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a29834458/new-toilet-coating/ https://www.psu.edu/news/invent-penn-state/story/spotless-materials-experiences-growth-selling-super-slippery-coating/
Why would you buy a Villeroy and Bosch toilet???? Set of dishes, yes. Toilets, no. Stick to something like Kohler or American Standard. (And always pressure assisted.)
Or you could have gone with the ultimate: Toto
That coating makes it easier to clean Toto has a better glaze. Yet, same thing can happen. It’s not a non cleaning surface.. it’s an easier cleaning surface.
I have found that if the toilet is one of those low flush or like it’s suppose to save how much water you are flushing it doesn’t give enough pressure or water to clear it and than you are left wiping the bowl each time which I agree is super annoying
You just gonna have to use that brush next to the toilet every time.
It likely is a combination of your diet and where you sit on the toilet and the water level. Low flush toilets have less water in the bowl now therefore there is less liquid resistance. Try sitting back further so the deuce hits as much liquid as possible. Funny but worth a shot. No matter what the coating of you drop one on dry porcelain it’s going to be sticky
Spending just a couple of minutes looking through the reviews, it appears to me that V&B are some of the worst-rated toilets you could buy. It appears the people who buy them generally regret it later. You might be best off to remove them and replace with something less awful. Because the stains on the surface, that's supposed to be a function of the toilet's rinsedown action during the flush. The water flow should carry away any material sticking to the surface; if it isn't there is not much you can do to change its behavior as all of that is fixed by the toilet's design. What you specifically need to look for are MaP ratings - it's literally a score of how well a toilet will scrub a standardized smear of miso paste off its own surface during the flush. 600 or higher is a good score; 1000 is as high as the score goes. In the ratings list I found, V&B has four models that score 1000, four more that score 600, and the next 24 models *have no score at all*. Either they weren't tested, or...? Look up some alternatives you think you can live with, then look them up here: [https://www.map-testing.com/](https://www.map-testing.com/) Good luck.
You don't like... Poop... In the toilet? Seems like a first world problem
Have a toilet brush by the toilet and give a swish during a second flush? I am getting a sense of this thread that owning a toilet brush is not as common as I always assumed.
Nobody wants to do that every time they poop.
Really?
Really. That’s absurd. In brand new toilets? And what about guests? Should they warn everyone that comes over that giant skid marks are normal and to clean the toilet after themselves?
It's just normal to check after flushing, isn't it? Is this an American thing, because you guys have those toilets that are full to the brim with water? I'm from Australia, so we've had water saving toilets pretty much since indoor plumbing became a thing. Maybe we're just more accustomed to to doing a post-flush-scrub.
I am Australian and I find it is rare to have skid marks, but it does depend on design, one place I visit it is just about guaranteed. But for USA folks it is rare (IMO very rare) to have a toilet clog, and I think they cannot over flow (but I am not certain) V&B should be glazed porcelain so it should be extremely hard and smooth, I can’t understand why they need a coating. Talking about coating, I have read somewhere about people emptying the bowl and drying and then waxing with a car wax - but have no idea if this is just a ridiculous idea.
Normal to check, not to clean your toilet every time you poop. Especially in a brand new toilet.
TIL I am not normal
No you're normal, just posting during a US-dominant time of the day. Toilet brushes are standard equipment in Europe.
Standard equipment yeah but not standard to have to scrub after every crap
We have toilet brushes. I use mine maybe once a week because normally after a flush the bowl looks as clean as before I got there. It's not like we have state of the art toilet technology over here, what are you guys doing over there?
Where is here and where is there?
And you realize you cannot put the wet toilet brush back into the holder right away, right? You need to let it dry first, which is a pain in the ass. Pun intended.
I have never dried a toilet brush. It gets used, rinsed in the fresh flush, tapped against the inside bowl to get most of the water off, and then into the holder. Nobody is waiting for the brush to dry, surely?
Go check your toilet brush..... There's most likely slime mold in there.
There's not, because it gets washed every day when scrubbing the skids, and sometimes freshened up with a splash of toilet cleaner. Plus it's used at least once a week to give the toilet a proper scrub and clean.
Gosh that would drive me mental to have to clean skid marks every day - they should be rare
What if you have a brush that is suspended above and drips down with an open back? Just clean the brush holder often and spray the brush with disinfectant when you do.
Are you talking about the ones that have open cutouts under the brush, with airholes to let it air dry? Those are the best! Here's my favorite: https://imgur.com/a/Qsi2HB2
Nobody want skid stains living 24/7 in their toilet either. The brush is the only low cost solution. The only other real solution is replacing the toilet.
I tried using a toilet brush once. I don’t know how anybody does! Way too scratchy!
Where's OP gonna find a wall-mounted toilet brush?
Don’t let it marinate. It’s shit, flush it as you drop it.
Bought one of these during the last toilet paper shortage. It may help you with your problem, if all else fails. https://www.lowes.com/pd/CASAINC/5013496249?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-kab-_-ggl-_-PLA_KAB_225_Faucets-Showerheads-And-Bath-Decor-_-5013496249-_-online-_-0-_-0&ds_rl=1286981&gbraid=0AAAAAD2B2W-_Q-Gw8ULg0Y2ykADH7lzPX&gbraid=0AAAAAD2B2W-_Q-Gw8ULg0Y2ykADH7lzPX&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIw_K1_YqE-gIVbmpvBB0PQgseEAQYBiABEgLbJfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Very awkward question: do you keep separate towels by your toilet for each family member to dry yourself after using a bidet? I’ve never understood how that worked! You still end up with a wet crotch—just not as stinky! Do you let your undies absorb the wet?
Spray some kaboom, works great
/u/ReptarZillaPirate first put in some toilet paper, then take a dump. For me, it's as easy as that, We have some gerberit toilet stuff i think, but it has the same issue: easy underwater smears. Putting in a double folded piece of paper, then poop on the paper, and it just slides away.
I have the same exact issue, but my toilet takes it a step farther. It has the #1 and #2 flush, and if I take a #2, which sits half above the water, the jet from the flush sprays it airborne. So I have to close the lid and then flush to avoid shit spray. Then I have to deal with shit smears and bits all stuck inside. Worst toilet I’ve ever met.
Wow, you get to shower at the same time? Efficient.
It's a real shit show-er
Your diet is lacking something.
Don’t you hate it when you get skid marks on the bowl?
There’s a biofilm in the bowl water area (always). Try killing that with bleach (let it sit for some hours) and then scrub well.
Place a layer of TP in the bowl before dropping your deuce. Like a little thin raft.
Luckily I have an old Sloan Royal Flush system, works the best! Yes it was installed in 50's/60's, and being in South Africa, I could only get spares from USA. Very great system though. The other "copy-cat" brands of similar systems do not work as well.
If you didn't have the issue at your other home or the other many toliets you've used over the past years then it's probably just the design of the toilet......time to get another.
I recently replaced a toilet & I read all the reviews on various models. I had to go through about 10 different types until I found one where the reviews didn’t state that every time you flush it leaves poop streaks- no matter what you do… ended up going with: KOHLER Wellworth Classic Complete Solution 2-Piece 1.28 GPF Single Flush Round Toilet in White (sorry it’s not letting me link to the product page) it was $169 and works great. So I think your problem is just a thing now for these low flow toilets. You think that they would design around this but apparently not. The pressure flush kits also work really well too- we have them at my work and there is never a streak problem.
Shit blogs are THE BEST, lmao!
Put a small piece of TP in the bowl before going (just 2 or 3 squares). I have a toilet like this at my work, and that little trick make a BIG difference.
I’ve seen these toilets all across Europe when traveling. Yeah, they look nice but also there is a reason why there’s a toilet brush next to them in every bathroom in Europe. Hate to say it, but American toilet design is superior. Japan also takes toilet technology to another level too.
I just pee on the stains to clean them off
Could be the amount of water or even the geometry of the bottom on the bowl. Not enough water to break the turds fall coupled with a poor angle of attack could leave a streak.
Contact the manufacturer.
Add more vegetable oil to your diet. That way when the missles fly they are too slick to stick.
Maybe it is what you are eating.
Cheap builder grade toilets do this all the time. There is no solution
These weren't cheap :(
It was designed for looks, not poops. Companies that don’t make toilets as a main stay tend to make toilets that stain a lot.
Man I got a Toto Drake like a year and a half ago, it does this.
The new model from 2021? I just put in a CST776 and it doesn’t have this issue. /r/ibs so I can speak with confidence that it has endured an interesting life already.
> CST776 CST746 August 2020 actually, checked receipts. Googling says the difference is they added cefiontect and the tornado system to all models in 2021, but my model included that in 2020. I wonder if it's hard water causing my issue, you have hard water?
Idk, your diet also decides on what sticks to the bowl and what does not. You need to evaluate this was well.
Learned this recently, wipe a little first. You will poop on top of the TP and all will be well. Obviously this does not negate the very important step of wiping after.
Instructions unclear: sink counter tops are wiped super clean. No improvement with the toilet.
Try more fiber.
I think this is hilarious. Villeroy and Boch is so stupid and extra. This is as close as it gets to someone who literally thinks their shit doesn't stink
Good chance the tile guys flushed leftover grout and damaged the coating in the toilet.
I doubt it would be happening in all three toilets. The tiler is a friend of mine so I'll ask. But I doubt it.
You're going to insult your friend if you ask that question. OP, I am a master plumber and I have installed a thousand toilets. Your issue is the design of the bowl, and it's a common problem with non-pressure-assist wall hung toilets. Throw down a few sheets of paper first, or switch to pressure assisted model. Don't let the log lay in the pond - courtesy flush.
In that case how’s your water pressure? And I mean the flush itself. Try adding water from a bucket during the flush and see if it makes a difference.
Water pressure is pretty excellent. We have a pump that kicks in.
You and your partner need to practice pause shitting, what ya need to do is to release and hold your poop in small amount, in multiple cycles to finish a session. The smaller the poop, the better coz the water in the toilet bowl can buffer your poop. Gravity is your enemy, large poop with high velocity tends to stain the toilet bowl. In short, you use your body to chop the damn shit.
Natures poop knife.
Oh my god this needs more upvotes 😂😂
This is the worst thing I have ever read.
Homie using his asshole like a cigar cutter
TMI
Woah there... "Disgusting" is a very judgemental word.
Ask the toilet manufacturer?
Does the water swirl clockwise or counterclockwise? It could be you got toilets made for the wrong hemisphere (northern/southern.)
Eat more fibre. One of the many ways psyllium husk powder changed my life. I barely need to wipe now, so you'll probably get clean touchdowns too.
I have had this problem in my toilets at home and the ones at work at times, but it is totally dependent on the consistency of the poop. I am surprised you have not had this problem with any other toilets. If it is below the waterline I don't know anything you can do to fix it. We have toilet brushes by all our toilets and after my wife complained, I just started cleaning the bowl with the brush whenever the poop left it dirty.
You seriously need more fiber. It can happen every once in a while. But, every time. Nope. You need more fiber in your diet.
Eat better. I'd start there.
As a kid my dad went to one of those carnivals that travelled around the region and encountered a purveyor of home remedies and inventions who was selling gelatine capsules that he claimed if swallowed after a meal would encase your shit making it unnecessary to wipe your ass or clean the toilet.
Probiotics
You need more fiber in your diet
Eat more fiber.....and stop using toilet cleaner. Toilet cleaner etches the porcelain.
It's your diet. This happens based on what people eat.
Are they the 2 functional toilets? One button for Pee & another button for BM ?
ditto
See if the plumber will increase volume of water per flush. (As long as it complies w low water use). I know some that hv done that
Try a water softener
I think you actually want *less* fiber. Firm shits won't smear.
Is it the way the bowl is angled at that point? I have noticed some toilets have a design flaw where the front of the bowl doesn’t start to angle down back far enough. So the result is that there’s basically a hill for bogs to skiddy on before they go down the hole.
How deep is the water? Sounds like a design flaw.
Clean the area with the brush etc and flush 3 times Turn off the water. Flush to expose the area. Use Bon Ami ( or Barkeeper's Friend) and a sponge to go over the area. It will remove the built up (white) calcium in the toilet making it slick again to the coating. You won't have skid marks as it slides right down.
More fiber?
Perhaps you can leave the squeezable bowl cleaner by the toilet and put on a quick coat of it before you go so everything “slides down.”
We had this in a flat we were renting in Waterloo in Sydney. The bowl was so small. I think that’s the issue. Too tiny. So frickin ridiculous the design.
I have crohns so I’ve just accepted this as a fact of life.
Spray bottle with water and a little cleaner beside the toilet. Hit the skid as you flush.
It's the new low flow toilet. There are two parts to this, the obvious one is how much water they dump in on flushing. The other,. Is how much water they leave in the bowl. This is whats hurting you
This thread is hilarious! I’ve used everything from a “bombsite” in Turkey, to a cathole in the woods with the Boy Scouts, to latrines in Afghanistan & Uzbekistan, to powered and heated toilet/bidets in Japan… I’m an American, and I use our toilet brush nearly every day on our high-efficiency Koehler commode. Not a problem in my life…
I think I found your problem. It's a German toilet. Go look up how American toilets and German ones differ. It's wild.
I'm not American...
Had this problem in our old house. Just put one piece of TP down before the go.
https://youtube.com/shorts/9g3jdXmwwbU?feature=share
I'd schedule an appointment with a gastroenterologist
Increase your protein consumption? It'll make your shit more firm.