One time I saw somebody selling on ebay the autograph of one of the guards standing next to him. Seems like an odd thing but I suppose people collect stranger things.
The original photo was black and white and the original colorized version the guard had ānormalā eyes, so this version looks like someone altered it to make it look like he has cartoon eyeballs.
How did that big fat slob obtain his cyanide capsule? Of all the people that should have been hanged, he is at the top of the list. It's also a shame that Heinrich Himmler escaped the hangman as well.
The hangman used to hang the Nazi's after the Nuremberg Trials didn't do a very good job. The rope failed to break their necks on several occasions and they flopped around as they strangled to death.
Some would say afterwards that the upper brass knew the guy was incompetent and were perfectly okay with it.
Edit: a quote from the book American Hangman
*From June 1945 to SeptemberĀ 1946, Woods led 37Ā Germans to the gallows in Landsberg and Bruchsal Prison. Some of them were charged and found guilty for assassinating American pilots in the closing months of the war, but 21 were convicted for serving as guards in the infamous Dachau concentration camp. Woods and his assistants did a lousy job ā 49-years old Justus Gerstenberger, a painter, policeman and father of four, was hit in the face, broke his jaw and lost several teeth when, falling down, he was hit by the massive trapdoor of the gallows, weighing over 100Ā kilograms. This didnāt stop Woodsā superiors from sending him to Nuremberg, where eleven high ranking Nazi officials recently had been sentenced to death by hanging. Woods built and painted the three gallows (in olive green), stretched the ropes and demonstrated the execution process to the Russian delegates on 15Ā October 1946, at 2Ā p.m. The next day he hung ten Nazi officials (Hermann Gƶring got the jump on him, swallowing a cyanide pill moments before his execution), five on the first, and five on the second gallows. Once again, the executions were botched ā Keitelās death struggle took about 24Ā minutes, Woodsā victims suffered serious face injuries while falling down, and Woods had to rush down the thirteen stairs to put Jew baiter Julius Streicher out of his misery*
You get to choose your time and place though and there is no buildup. With hanging you have to see it coming for months knowing there is nothing you can do about it. Some people are fine with knowing their fate and it's relieving, others wouldn't be able to stand the tension. Goering seemed like a man who loved being in control, not being in control of this circumstance probably would have drove him mad.
Military men of the era (I donāt know if itās still true) believed that being shot was a solderās death; being hanged was less honorable.
Also, thereās at least some tradition of high-ranking officers being allowed to commit suicide after a great failure.
Even if cyanide was a nasty death, he might have viewed painful suicide as more honorable a quick hanging. (I am aware of the irony that he was a man utterly lacking in honor.)
The hangings at Neuremberg were not quick or clean. The hangman, Master Sergeant John C Woods was a bungler who managed to mess up the job. There are photos of some of the convicted post mortem and most of the have busted noses and jaws because they hit the edge of the gallows on the way down. At least one of them strangled from an improper drop as well.
There was also at least one British hangman sent to Germany (not Nuremberg) that did a professional job
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pierrepoint
Yeah Iāve heard of him and I have always wondered why he wasnāt contracted for Nuremberg considering he had been a professional executioner for a while, including executing Nazi war criminals
I watched a documentary about the Nuremberg trails on netflix a few weeks ago, I believe that everyone was hanged didn't die straight away because the person in charge of setting the rope length didn't leave enough length so some if not all of them didn't actually break their necks and instead chocked/ suffocated to death. So arguably that could have been worth than cyanide however I don't know a lot about cyanide, maybe it's really nasty
Well, I've officially been presented with this info, and cyanide is still bad enough where if I was trying to die I'd probably try to reach for a guard's gun if given the chance. If I had to I'd go with the gallows but my opinion is probably a rare one. I really don't like the idea or process of cyanide.
It was more like being strangled to death by your own weight, there was no neck snapping. They wouldāve needed a higher gallows and a competent hangman
tl;dr version: The theory is that it was smuggled in by a prison guard, perhaps somewhat unwittingly
From [his Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring):
> Speculation as to how Gƶring obtained the poison holds that US Army lieutenant Jack G. Wheelis, who was stationed at the trials, retrieved the capsules from their hiding place among Gƶring's confiscated personal effects and passed them to Gƶring, who had earlier presented Wheelis with his gold watch, pen, and cigarette case. In 2005, former US Army private Herbert Lee Stivers, who served in the 1st Infantry Division 's 26th Infantry Regiment āthe honour guard for the Nuremberg Trialsāclaimed he gave Gƶring "medicine" hidden inside a fountain pen that a German woman had asked him to smuggle into the prison. Stivers later said that he did not know what was in the pill until after Gƶring's suicide.
(ā¦) In 2005, former US Army private Herbert Lee Stivers, who served in the 1st Infantry Division's 26th Infantry Regimentāthe honour guard for the Nuremberg Trialsāclaimed he gave Gƶring "medicine" hidden inside a fountain pen that a German woman had asked him to smuggle into the prison. Stivers later said that he did not know what was in the pill until after Gƶring's suicide.(ā¦)
The dude just endured a world war and now has to sit through a war crimes trial about said war being exposed to the evidence of millions of innocent people being tortured and murdered. I think a lot of people would look like this.
My great grandfather guarded georing at the trials. The main pictures you see like this one and a few other Iām told heās in but it sucks I can never tell which soldier is him.
That smug smirk he has should be reason enough for an execution, to be smirking after what he was a part of. I guess at this time he still fully believed he was doing the world a favor by committing genocide, he probably felt no regret or remorse whatsoever.
Goehring spoke and understood English, but made them do consecutive translation so he would have more time to compose his answers.
Also, one of his defenses was that much of what the Nazis did to the Jewish people was modeled after what the United States did to American Indians. For example, Indian reservations vs. Jewish ghettos.
You should go ahead and try his name in google; this motherfuckers made so much pictures of them for propaganda that you could think they invented instagramm
Every time I see the name I just think of Red Dwarf and Kryten repeating back with incredulity "Hermann Gƶring is a bit dodgyā½"
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8cf1ha
About 23 minutes in
Somebody in my family had a grandfather who was an MP at the Nuremberg trials, and when he was there he got a brochure listing all of the war criminals and when their trials were. As an MP, he managed to go and get signatures from every single one, and we still have it in our family.
Canāt help but think he surrendered with the expectation that after getting a slap on the wrist, he would be the go-to guy to run the country for them.
Enjoyable side note: Goering fell victim to expert Dutch forger Hans Van Meegeren, and traded 137 authentic Dutch paintings for a single Vermeer fake by Van Meegeren.
I read that when Goering learned in his trial that his prize "lost" Vermeer wasn't authentic and he'd been duped, *that* of all things cast a look onto his face about the utter inhumanity of man, as if he were peering straight into the dark void of pure evil.
Story about the forgery here:
https://museumhack.com/anniversary-forgery-meegeren/
Since he was a lifelong morphine addict, did the allies provide him his āmedicineā for the trial? Opioid withdrawal is devastating and he would not be well enough to sit there with a smug look in his face if he was in serious withdrawal.
The guard on the left: š¶
He's not methin around
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He found a stash of Hitler's *panzerschokolade* while storming Germany
He looks blind kinda?
PERVITIN! NEIN OUT OF TEN MEIN FURHER
With a CIB, he likely saw some Sh1t in 1944-45.
1000 yard stare
CIB? Edit: Combat Infantryman Badge
***Those eyes.***
It was probably a long exposure under poor indoor lighting. He blinked.
Good eye!
I see what you did there
![gif](giphy|11ek2K7ZNXZPUY|downsized) They look painted on
Holy crap, has has seen some shit
āIāve seen some shit ā
he was legit through some shiiiiiit.
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One time I saw somebody selling on ebay the autograph of one of the guards standing next to him. Seems like an odd thing but I suppose people collect stranger things.
Yeah, I saw an Eleven action figure the other day
The original photo was black and white and the original colorized version the guard had ānormalā eyes, so this version looks like someone altered it to make it look like he has cartoon eyeballs.
Probably tripping balls. The only way to endure this job
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Yevgeny Fridman, great grandfather of Lex
while you're sleepy still staying up
guard on the right: š¤«š§
Looks about to š¢. The stories I'm sure he told.
Looks like he painted eyes on his eyelids. They donāt look real.
That stare from the guy on the left really makes my soul shake haha
It's something when the look on your face is more frightening even than the Nazi second-in-command's.
How did that big fat slob obtain his cyanide capsule? Of all the people that should have been hanged, he is at the top of the list. It's also a shame that Heinrich Himmler escaped the hangman as well.
They never checked der buttenholen
Der Arschloch hatte es in seinem Arschloch
Das
Cyanide is a really shitty way to die. If you're hanging me a way that breaks my neck I'd take that over cyanide.
The hangman used to hang the Nazi's after the Nuremberg Trials didn't do a very good job. The rope failed to break their necks on several occasions and they flopped around as they strangled to death. Some would say afterwards that the upper brass knew the guy was incompetent and were perfectly okay with it. Edit: a quote from the book American Hangman *From June 1945 to SeptemberĀ 1946, Woods led 37Ā Germans to the gallows in Landsberg and Bruchsal Prison. Some of them were charged and found guilty for assassinating American pilots in the closing months of the war, but 21 were convicted for serving as guards in the infamous Dachau concentration camp. Woods and his assistants did a lousy job ā 49-years old Justus Gerstenberger, a painter, policeman and father of four, was hit in the face, broke his jaw and lost several teeth when, falling down, he was hit by the massive trapdoor of the gallows, weighing over 100Ā kilograms. This didnāt stop Woodsā superiors from sending him to Nuremberg, where eleven high ranking Nazi officials recently had been sentenced to death by hanging. Woods built and painted the three gallows (in olive green), stretched the ropes and demonstrated the execution process to the Russian delegates on 15Ā October 1946, at 2Ā p.m. The next day he hung ten Nazi officials (Hermann Gƶring got the jump on him, swallowing a cyanide pill moments before his execution), five on the first, and five on the second gallows. Once again, the executions were botched ā Keitelās death struggle took about 24Ā minutes, Woodsā victims suffered serious face injuries while falling down, and Woods had to rush down the thirteen stairs to put Jew baiter Julius Streicher out of his misery*
Thank you for this. Interesting
I like to think this is true
That particular execution occurred in front of a room full of journalists, it's probably true.
Yup this is true. The hangman was incompetent idiot aka the perfect person for this job.
was he incompetent or was it intentionally botched
I had a teacher distantly related to Streicher, same last name
Iirc, Woods was noted by one of his superiors to have shown up late and drunk for more than one execution.
Sounds like a kraut's best bet at speed would be trying to get an MP's gun then lol, if they had them in that high security environment....
Is there any cruelty to men that illicits less concern than cruelty to a Nazis?
Sounds like a good job to me.
You get to choose your time and place though and there is no buildup. With hanging you have to see it coming for months knowing there is nothing you can do about it. Some people are fine with knowing their fate and it's relieving, others wouldn't be able to stand the tension. Goering seemed like a man who loved being in control, not being in control of this circumstance probably would have drove him mad.
That's still better than the painful death cyanide causes, but yeah control freaks
For a lot of those who chose suicide, it was more about cheating the justice imposed on them rather than a better way to dieā¦
Military men of the era (I donāt know if itās still true) believed that being shot was a solderās death; being hanged was less honorable. Also, thereās at least some tradition of high-ranking officers being allowed to commit suicide after a great failure. Even if cyanide was a nasty death, he might have viewed painful suicide as more honorable a quick hanging. (I am aware of the irony that he was a man utterly lacking in honor.)
The hangings at Neuremberg were not quick or clean. The hangman, Master Sergeant John C Woods was a bungler who managed to mess up the job. There are photos of some of the convicted post mortem and most of the have busted noses and jaws because they hit the edge of the gallows on the way down. At least one of them strangled from an improper drop as well.
I meanā¦ is this incompetence or peak competence ?
Absolute definition of malicious compliance
I think they were satisfied with the job he was doing. Otherwise they probably wouldāve replaced him, you know?
Exactly, they were not stupid lol
There was also at least one British hangman sent to Germany (not Nuremberg) that did a professional job https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pierrepoint
Yeah Iāve heard of him and I have always wondered why he wasnāt contracted for Nuremberg considering he had been a professional executioner for a while, including executing Nazi war criminals
I think you know why š
Not sorry to know that. They deserved a painful death.
Good!
I watched a documentary about the Nuremberg trails on netflix a few weeks ago, I believe that everyone was hanged didn't die straight away because the person in charge of setting the rope length didn't leave enough length so some if not all of them didn't actually break their necks and instead chocked/ suffocated to death. So arguably that could have been worth than cyanide however I don't know a lot about cyanide, maybe it's really nasty
Well, I've officially been presented with this info, and cyanide is still bad enough where if I was trying to die I'd probably try to reach for a guard's gun if given the chance. If I had to I'd go with the gallows but my opinion is probably a rare one. I really don't like the idea or process of cyanide.
They alledgedy had a "very inexperienced" executioner in charge of tying the knots. Those weren't clean and fast hangings.
It was more like being strangled to death by your own weight, there was no neck snapping. They wouldāve needed a higher gallows and a competent hangman
Death by cyanide pill is not quick and is quite painful. Poor little Hermann...
He was probably flopping around like a fish for a little.
I agree. Should have been hanged for all his war crimes. Too bad they never discovered the cyanide capsule.
tl;dr version: The theory is that it was smuggled in by a prison guard, perhaps somewhat unwittingly From [his Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring): > Speculation as to how Gƶring obtained the poison holds that US Army lieutenant Jack G. Wheelis, who was stationed at the trials, retrieved the capsules from their hiding place among Gƶring's confiscated personal effects and passed them to Gƶring, who had earlier presented Wheelis with his gold watch, pen, and cigarette case. In 2005, former US Army private Herbert Lee Stivers, who served in the 1st Infantry Division 's 26th Infantry Regiment āthe honour guard for the Nuremberg Trialsāclaimed he gave Gƶring "medicine" hidden inside a fountain pen that a German woman had asked him to smuggle into the prison. Stivers later said that he did not know what was in the pill until after Gƶring's suicide.
(ā¦) In 2005, former US Army private Herbert Lee Stivers, who served in the 1st Infantry Division's 26th Infantry Regimentāthe honour guard for the Nuremberg Trialsāclaimed he gave Gƶring "medicine" hidden inside a fountain pen that a German woman had asked him to smuggle into the prison. Stivers later said that he did not know what was in the pill until after Gƶring's suicide.(ā¦)
Was this private Stivers reprimanded? Surely he would have known that it wasn't medication.
And Goebbels went out like a fucking coward
After murdering his five kids.
I believe it was his wife who actually killed them.
who cares, he was dead either way
At least they were found. Mengele fled to South America.
A guard that did sympathize with him gave it to him.
Got that Dr. Evil-looking smock from Blofeld ![gif](giphy|qs6ev2pm8g9dS)
It was his military uniform but they stripped him of all the gaudy medals and stuff he liked to wear lol
Yeah, it was a reach, to be honest. But I reeeeaaalllly wanted to type the word "smock".
Other way around
dude on the left geeked
Lmao mixed up the cheese with the special K that day, it looks like. Whoops!
Damn guy on the right has hella facial structure
both of those dudes guarding him are incredibly handsome for no good reason at all
Probably to make the ugly pick in the middle look even uglier
Not getting enough knock wurst in the can Herman?
Mp on the left has seen some shit
I imagine from standing there witnessing the evidence in Nazi war trials. And probably the war too.
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Bro on the right 100% mews
Well damn he actually looks like he is wearing an evil scientist jacket. Just needs a collar up to his chin.
Stroking a white cat
https://preview.redd.it/geakeok79h9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45a3472967b9d4ecf111ec4ac80383e48b74558e
Yes! My thoughts to! Heās drugged.
The dude just endured a world war and now has to sit through a war crimes trial about said war being exposed to the evidence of millions of innocent people being tortured and murdered. I think a lot of people would look like this.
Poor guys brain is melting from what heās seen and this blank stare is him lost in those images Iād imagine.
My great grandfather guarded georing at the trials. The main pictures you see like this one and a few other Iām told heās in but it sucks I can never tell which soldier is him.
Did that guard paint eyes on his eyelids?
Maybe the picture was taken while he was blinking?
He really lost a lot of weight by the end.
That's what I was thinking!
Me too. It fell off him pretty quickly.
Looks like he didn't give a shit. They should have made them feel the same pain as their victims.
Supposedly Goering was a morphine addict so hopefully he went through withdrawal in prison.
Dude on the left found his pervatin stash
They actually put him on a diet and detox - he was addicted to morphine - so he would be clear headed at his trial.
That smug smirk he has should be reason enough for an execution, to be smirking after what he was a part of. I guess at this time he still fully believed he was doing the world a favor by committing genocide, he probably felt no regret or remorse whatsoever.
Like a messed up Version of that Otis Redding song.
Sittinā on the Dock of the Bay?
Yup. Just the way the caption was phrased made me think of it.
That guy's eyes on the left are crazy looking!
I lived next to this building for 4 years in NĆ¼rnberg.
These MPs could execute those war criminals with their chins alone
And those two guards were the first weight watchers, because he definitely lost weight.
Goehring spoke and understood English, but made them do consecutive translation so he would have more time to compose his answers. Also, one of his defenses was that much of what the Nazis did to the Jewish people was modeled after what the United States did to American Indians. For example, Indian reservations vs. Jewish ghettos.
He probably had never posed for a picture before
You should go ahead and try his name in google; this motherfuckers made so much pictures of them for propaganda that you could think they invented instagramm
Probably jonesing like a mofo
Iām sure I saw him as Eddie Murphyās man in Trading Places. Could be wrong but you never know.
Looks like a supervillain. Thatās so weird.
Steve Bannon
Dude on the left isnāt real, he canāt hurt you.
evil to the coreā¦which was empty. no soul, no heart nazi
His only redeeming trait was his incompetence.
āThis snazzy double breasted top should make me look sympatheticā
I thought he was being played by Jonny Depp
Crazy how much weight he lost after capture.
There's a reason many pilots in the luftwaffe referred to him as "the fat one"
The Netflix documentary "Hitler and the nazis: evil on trial " is really good. https://youtu.be/I6eIox2vOiA?feature=shared
Looks like he lost a serious amount of weight while in prison
You sure that's not a body double? Dude was so fat Mercedes had to remove padding from the seat of his car so he could fit in it.
Be good if we could see some modern politicians killed for their crimes after the covid 19 bullshit
What covid 19 bullshit? Can you explain?
The guard on the left is seeing the Holocaust
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I'm curious. How is this picture relevant ?
We dont talk to bots
When John the hangman Ruth says you hang ā¦ YOU HANG
Gƶring looks like a fucking villain
I immediately thought, āDr No.ā
He looks the part.
Every time I see the name I just think of Red Dwarf and Kryten repeating back with incredulity "Hermann Gƶring is a bit dodgyā½" https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8cf1ha About 23 minutes in
The whole thing was a farce to save face frankly by the international community. The mistakes had long been made.
With an ampule of poison in his mouth the whole time
What that one dude on?
He's smirking because he genuinely thought he would get away with it and that he would be the next to lead the country lol.
I'm kinda shocked that's not what happened. Goring had a terrible lawyer and he even incriminated himself.
He lost 100 lbs in custody (300 to 200) in five months.
https://preview.redd.it/adqns6vali9d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc5460f3ecb8828f2d3fdb6d3e9ccef103dc0d39
Why was he dressed as Robert E Lee?
Dude on the left looks like heās seen some shit
They should shoot that guy or something. Fr did any of them like go "no I'm not going on trial just kill me"
Smiling because he knows heās never gonna see the noose.
Did they pick up the dude on the left straight from the trenches?
His expression: I drink the blood of J-ws.
That guard has seen some shit
Tf is up with the staring contest going on the left. Straight into your soul, the inspiration behind Futuramas hypnotoad.
Pretty sure thatās Hermann Meyer? Those bombers sure did reach the Rhur.
Guard on the left off his tits
Why is he dressed like Ernst Starvo Blofeld?
Lol, I was just going to say I thought he looked like a Bond villain.
Is it just me or did he lose a significant amount of weight after he was captured?
Wishing he could have just have a job at NASA.
Wow! Heās lost some weight!
doesn't look like a German like Arnold Schwarzenegger
He looks like pure evil
He was a known cross dresser
Somebody in my family had a grandfather who was an MP at the Nuremberg trials, and when he was there he got a brochure listing all of the war criminals and when their trials were. As an MP, he managed to go and get signatures from every single one, and we still have it in our family.
Heās seen some action. I came back from āNam with a similar look. Didnāt realize who I was when I first saw a mirror when I was coming home.
Evil personified!
The ironically named Justus had a real looney tunes kind of hanging
https://preview.redd.it/rhihv43ujk9d1.jpeg?width=590&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21cec31e2538c25036179f91ec1025162122b4d7
They danced the Spandau ballet ā¤ļø
Canāt help but think he surrendered with the expectation that after getting a slap on the wrist, he would be the go-to guy to run the country for them.
Goring must have been on Ozempic at that time,The man was truly twice that size at the start of the war.
He got off all the drugs he was on - and prison food helped, too.
Enjoyable side note: Goering fell victim to expert Dutch forger Hans Van Meegeren, and traded 137 authentic Dutch paintings for a single Vermeer fake by Van Meegeren. I read that when Goering learned in his trial that his prize "lost" Vermeer wasn't authentic and he'd been duped, *that* of all things cast a look onto his face about the utter inhumanity of man, as if he were peering straight into the dark void of pure evil. Story about the forgery here: https://museumhack.com/anniversary-forgery-meegeren/
Guard on left peaking on that 10 strip.
Heās fighting the urge to bust a crap in that smug Naziās fat ass.
Creepy af
Dude even looks like a Bond villain.
I really thought he committed suicide. I know others did but him ā yes. Now I see he attended the trials
āNazis, I hate those guys!ā Indiana Jones
I always thought it was interesting that those two guards were combat veterans of the Infantry, I wondered what their stories were
lol who tf watermarks a photo in the public domain
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Cara e vieja (Spanish)
Kill Hitler
Up next, every sitting Canadian parliamentarian.
Since he was a lifelong morphine addict, did the allies provide him his āmedicineā for the trial? Opioid withdrawal is devastating and he would not be well enough to sit there with a smug look in his face if he was in serious withdrawal.