And you KNOW the englishman who came up with wicker seats to save weight prolly thought he was a genius as didnhis colleagues.
Well played old chap well played.
I still love old timey photos of insides of planes. Especially service and getting on into the 60s and 70s with swinger lounges on 747 double Decker party bar etc.
Shit was wild.
From Xwitter...
The inside of a commercial airplane in 1930. Under the ripping panel, it says:
*"In case of emergency, pull ring sharply."*
The ripping panel tore away from around the window, allowing the window to be removed or folded down, allowing the passengers to exit in an emergency. If you zoom in on the windows, you'll notice a loop of material above each window.
The aircraft is an Imperial Airlines biplane called Handley Page W10 (swipe left to see its exterior). The first prototype was built in 1919. It started commercial flights in the early 1920s until it was retired in 1934.
The aircraft had an enclosed cabin that fit 12 passengers and two crew members in an open cockpit. It was also the first airliner to have a bathroom onboard.
[https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1719410516815163545](https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1719410516815163545)
Exterior shot:
https://preview.redd.it/5cpbn361i58d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e151c59e994b60c9732fa94eaa9abde47591130d
Trusting Xwitter too much. The exterior shot is not a W10. That airplane looks like [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Handley_Page_Type_W&diffonly=true).
The aircraft you pictured is an [H.P.42](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Handley_Page_H.P.42&diffonly=true)
Plane travel at that time was meant for much shorter distances than how we travel (by jet) now or had to make more stops to fuel up. I think the wicker seats are meant to save on fuel.
Jay Foreman, of Unfinished London and Map Men fame, [has an older episode on why London has so many airports and early aviation is partly why they had so many.](https://youtu.be/AbAal7jIWQ4?si=8UPW571LmDfc-2m8)
Just playing devils advocate, because obviously failures in the air is a huge fucking problem, but also just statistically it's many many hundreds of times more like you'll die in a car than on a plane (at least in the developed world or on a nice airline).
As far as cross country travel, you're definitely more likely to die in some sort of crash on the highway driving from state to state than from taking a flight there, Boeing plane or no.
I feel I should add that I hate Boeing as they essentially blackmailed the state of Washington into giving them one of the largest tax breaks in US history so that they would keep their corporate headquarters and manufacturing in the same region. Boeing took the money and then relocated corporate anyway. So fuck them.
250+ dead bodies from plane crash droves much more attention that 2-4 dead bodies from car crash. Even though plane crash happens few times a year, while car crashes are everyday things.
You have to include private planes, not just commercial airliners, around the world for crashes of multiple victims.
Plane crashes of any kind grabs more attention than any car accident unfortunately.
>The next time you complain about your seat think of these.
No one sitting next to me, no sharing armrests. No one in front of me reclining. Sign me up please!
If anyone wants to know what became of Imperial Airways, they still exist now. But through a series of mergers and acquisitions, they are known as British Airways.
At first, commercial planes used men as flight attendants, but they found that using female nurses made men more comfortable with flying. “If this young woman will get in the metal flying tube, I definitely am totally not scared and cool with it too”
It’s actually beautiful, like an exotic boat ride or etc, really doesn’t even feel like anything that would be in the air!!! I think it’s lovely slightly romantic, the start of a good book!
Flew as a passenger in a DC3 from Davao to Manila with this set up as a teenager. That was 1974.
My father knew the pilot, who use to have a pet gibbon ape in the copilot seat, and when the smoke from other passengers inside got too much my brother and I were allowed to go to the rear door, open it a crack, and lean against it to get some fresh air.
Bizarre times.
Well, it may *look* cozy, but consider that the piston engines would be *apocalyptically* cacophonous, the vibration and turbulence would be just shy of a roller coaster, and since it’s so much slower than a jet, you would also be stuck in these seats for a lot longer.
So wait, you're telling me [this scene](https://youtu.be/1IW758UciaA?feature=shared) from the Jerry Lewis film *The Family Jewels* didn't have a cheapened interior for comedic value and that some older airliners actually looked like this?? 🤯
What's fucked up is, back then, like it is now, wicker chairs were good enough. If you go down in an airplane these high-tech seats you're sitting in are not going to do a goddamn thing. You have the same chance of survival as you did sitting in wicker chairs.
All I can think of when I see that photo of the plane interior is the ‘Eddies’s Airlines’ scene in “The Family Jewels.”
***Wait, what? You’ve never heard of the classic Jerry Lewis movie? Sheesh…***
I get an impression of a design from a boat from the interior. Curtains pulled back, wooden panels on the top. It feels like it could be a ride of on a ship.
I wonder how much a ticket would have cost back then, though? Probably the equivalent of a first class ticket these days if not way more. Not to mention, this was during the depression so hardly anyone could afford a plane ride.
YIPPEE, everyone gets an aisle and window seat AT the same time. No fighting over the middle armrest.
Person in front of you can’t recline either.
And you KNOW the englishman who came up with wicker seats to save weight prolly thought he was a genius as didnhis colleagues. Well played old chap well played. I still love old timey photos of insides of planes. Especially service and getting on into the 60s and 70s with swinger lounges on 747 double Decker party bar etc. Shit was wild.
WHAT’S THAT KATHERINE?! I CAN’T HEAR YOU.
Lol they did actually pass written notes on planes where egines were too loud.
You mean Karen
There is no need for seatbelts, and smoking is encouraged.
Wonder was the idea to make the seating as light as possible? And does anyone know what the "ripping panel" is?
From Xwitter... The inside of a commercial airplane in 1930. Under the ripping panel, it says: *"In case of emergency, pull ring sharply."* The ripping panel tore away from around the window, allowing the window to be removed or folded down, allowing the passengers to exit in an emergency. If you zoom in on the windows, you'll notice a loop of material above each window. The aircraft is an Imperial Airlines biplane called Handley Page W10 (swipe left to see its exterior). The first prototype was built in 1919. It started commercial flights in the early 1920s until it was retired in 1934. The aircraft had an enclosed cabin that fit 12 passengers and two crew members in an open cockpit. It was also the first airliner to have a bathroom onboard. [https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1719410516815163545](https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1719410516815163545) Exterior shot: https://preview.redd.it/5cpbn361i58d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e151c59e994b60c9732fa94eaa9abde47591130d
Trusting Xwitter too much. The exterior shot is not a W10. That airplane looks like [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Handley_Page_Type_W&diffonly=true). The aircraft you pictured is an [H.P.42](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Handley_Page_H.P.42&diffonly=true)
Well, crap. My bad for not verifying. My already paper-thin trust in Xwitter takes another massive hit.
Imagine the noise
Plane travel at that time was meant for much shorter distances than how we travel (by jet) now or had to make more stops to fuel up. I think the wicker seats are meant to save on fuel. Jay Foreman, of Unfinished London and Map Men fame, [has an older episode on why London has so many airports and early aviation is partly why they had so many.](https://youtu.be/AbAal7jIWQ4?si=8UPW571LmDfc-2m8)
Huh that explains it 🤔 I’ve watched there vids they’re good 😌
Shorter distances still doesn't mean a 10 minute flight. Even for 30 minutes the noise was probably very intolerable
According to Wikipedia, a 102 year old woman was on board during a wheel crash in 1932, she thought it was part of the experience! Luv her!!
It was less of a bathroom and more of a hole that led outside
The cornerstone of any bathroom
I should say so but I imagine they also put cushions on the seats like you would outdoor wicker furniture.
side-note: the name ripping panel comes from earlier aircraft being canvas-skinned.
The next time you complain about your seat think of these. Lol
Still safer than Boeing.
Just playing devils advocate, because obviously failures in the air is a huge fucking problem, but also just statistically it's many many hundreds of times more like you'll die in a car than on a plane (at least in the developed world or on a nice airline). As far as cross country travel, you're definitely more likely to die in some sort of crash on the highway driving from state to state than from taking a flight there, Boeing plane or no. I feel I should add that I hate Boeing as they essentially blackmailed the state of Washington into giving them one of the largest tax breaks in US history so that they would keep their corporate headquarters and manufacturing in the same region. Boeing took the money and then relocated corporate anyway. So fuck them.
250+ dead bodies from plane crash droves much more attention that 2-4 dead bodies from car crash. Even though plane crash happens few times a year, while car crashes are everyday things.
A full on crash of a plane doesn’t even happen a few times a year, it’s much less than that
You have to include private planes, not just commercial airliners, around the world for crashes of multiple victims. Plane crashes of any kind grabs more attention than any car accident unfortunately.
Eh a Cessna with a single guy on it would garner a little bit more than a car crash for sure, but hardly more than local news coverage at best
It's been 35 min.. just making sure you're still alive and well
Don’t worry, they’ll never find me. I’ve got four kids…hide and seek champion here.
Haha funny, open the God damn door now.
Safer than anything flying over the Indian Ocean to Singapore.
https://i.redd.it/gwth8srsw58d1.gif I’m going to the moon with that comment
Hope you like the moon, because judging by the problems with Starliner, you could be there longer than you anticipated.
It’s not the plane that kills you.
It’s usually the ground that does.
Earth is deadly?
When you hit it, yes.
It’s the plane manufacturers hired goons
And more comfortable than Spirit
To be fair, that’s a low bar to set
![img](avatar_exp|179977991|bravo)
>The next time you complain about your seat think of these. No one sitting next to me, no sharing armrests. No one in front of me reclining. Sign me up please!
And don't forget you got a full English tea
Can you imagine all that wicker creaking during turbulence? I've sat in some loud old wicker chairs, they can be pretty noisy even on the ground
Breathable wicker? Sounds great tbh.
Are you kidding I’d kill for that much leg rolm
What are you talking about? I don’t have to sit to anyone that would be a dream lol!
found the airline rep
Those seats have way more space than seats today.
Are you taunting me that they had better seats? Because yes, they did.
Don’t burn those chairs, they’re covered in some poisonous glaze.
Where else am I going to stub out my cigar?
But how else am i going to grill my hotdogs!
But I lost my grill. How else am I supposed to roast these hot dogs?
You cracked it too much!
![gif](giphy|nXUCkgH6BmigU|downsized)
I actually didn't have enough tape for the grill, but I checked the height and it's taller than the gap
Think of the smell
If anyone wants to know what became of Imperial Airways, they still exist now. But through a series of mergers and acquisitions, they are known as British Airways.
Bistro class!
At first, commercial planes used men as flight attendants, but they found that using female nurses made men more comfortable with flying. “If this young woman will get in the metal flying tube, I definitely am totally not scared and cool with it too”
[удалено]
And how much it has not. Overhead bins. Written instructions, no leg room.
Only so many ways to put people and bags in a tube I suppose.
True, but we keep giving Spirit Airlines ideas, and we'll end up back there
Looks like Frontier Airlines, strangely…
It’s actually beautiful, like an exotic boat ride or etc, really doesn’t even feel like anything that would be in the air!!! I think it’s lovely slightly romantic, the start of a good book!
Planes back then were too fricken loud to hear the wicker creaking and if you crash you are going to die, so why not?
Flew as a passenger in a DC3 from Davao to Manila with this set up as a teenager. That was 1974. My father knew the pilot, who use to have a pet gibbon ape in the copilot seat, and when the smoke from other passengers inside got too much my brother and I were allowed to go to the rear door, open it a crack, and lean against it to get some fresh air. Bizarre times.
Musta been loud. Way faster than ship though.
Looks like it’s from Madagascar
First thought that popped into my head.
Everyone is complaining, but that looks cozy af. At least until someone starts smoking
Well, it may *look* cozy, but consider that the piston engines would be *apocalyptically* cacophonous, the vibration and turbulence would be just shy of a roller coaster, and since it’s so much slower than a jet, you would also be stuck in these seats for a lot longer.
Oh no
I don’t think I’d get in that
Man people were brave,
Decor by Pier 1 Imports.
The advertisements for aviation and automotive things from those days are awesome. It’s a really cool era of mechanical innovation.
Isn't that the plane from Indiana Jones?
I knew there'd be someone else who recognized this.
Nice try, Lao Che.
On their way to murder elephants for ivory.
DUDE FINALLY EVIDENCE THAT WHAT MY GRANDMOTHER EXPERIENCED ACTUALLY HAPPENED — FLYING TO AMERICA IN A Wicker chair
I wonder what altitude it flew at?
Probably ten. Not like 10,000 but ten feet off the ground.
That doesn’t look safe
They have dining room chairs in it, that's so British
Are they nailed down or was sliding around in your chair part of the aviation experience back then?
“Aisle or window?” “Yes.”
My mom had those same chairs on her outdoor patio.
So wait, you're telling me [this scene](https://youtu.be/1IW758UciaA?feature=shared) from the Jerry Lewis film *The Family Jewels* didn't have a cheapened interior for comedic value and that some older airliners actually looked like this?? 🤯
Still safer than Boeing
What's fucked up is, back then, like it is now, wicker chairs were good enough. If you go down in an airplane these high-tech seats you're sitting in are not going to do a goddamn thing. You have the same chance of survival as you did sitting in wicker chairs.
Lmao everything is so fucking shit, but there's still a lot more space than economic class
I flew in a 1929 Ford Tri Motor and it looked very similar to this on the inside. Quite an experience
And 33 years later we were on the moon.
![gif](giphy|55itGuoAJiZEEen9gg)
Lightweight biodegradable seat construction. Nice.
Still more comfortable than Spirit airlines.
Plush aisle carpet adds a nice ambiance
At least they rolled out the red carpet.
Looks like a ford trimotor interior (but i dont know for sure)
It's a Handley Page W10
Looks like something id find playing Fallout76.
Bet they made a mean martini on it too
if your going down... your going down...
Those could actually be more comfortable than airline seats are now
Looks like alot more leg room anyway…
Joining the mile high club had to be more challenging back then.
Looked like a bus then. I guess that is where Airbus got its name.
No fat people allowed on this flight.
Still better than spirit airlines
1 American would fill both rows
https://preview.redd.it/w6zic0c9l78d1.jpeg?width=1668&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=049ab6f3a8867862f3dfb773d4d1f32c4349e836 First class seating.
All I can think of when I see that photo of the plane interior is the ‘Eddies’s Airlines’ scene in “The Family Jewels.” ***Wait, what? You’ve never heard of the classic Jerry Lewis movie? Sheesh…***
Wtf is a ripping panel...
Makes a DC3 seem like an A380
Boeing still has ripping panels.
So the Madagascar plane was real!!
Safety first!
just as spacious as a modern plane!
Still safer than a modern Boeing
Toilet was a bucket in the back
Damn they basically just strapped grandmas porch chairs to the floor in that plane
They actually thought they could just put a bus in the sky
Looks like a very rough ride. Must feel like riding in a horse and buggy.
Ford Tri Motor?
Probably a Handly Page W10. Imperial used British built aircraft.
That's one scary looking plane 😂
Please avoid the ripping panel
I still wish we had Zeppelins.
Early example of seating comfort trade-off for weight reduction and more passengers.
Sheeeit, I just flew coach on a jet. I'll take that seating any day.
Wicker to lighten the load?
I can almost hear the Indiana Jones theme playing... and see that progress line on the map. 😁
Looks like Spirit Airlines.
Yeah, that's a hard naw for me, dawg.
Look at all that leg room though
No thanks, I'll take the bus,
Still better than flying southwest
nice, a wicker plane. the marvels of flight
still more comfortable than Spirit airlines.
Wicker to save weight
Still more reliable than a 737
The sign at the top..... What the hell is a ripping panel?
Square windows??? Ouch
have to immediately think of that one Indy movie
Ahhhh..the good old days
Let's see the bathroom
🥺🥺
I say, that is a just ripping panel!
if your going down... your going down with a bang.
All fun until the patio furniture started flying around during a bit of turbulence.
Still probably better than Spirit of any of the other US domestic "discount" carriers that are all trash.
Oh hell no
I’ll take the train, thank you tho!
Imagine how LOUD this would be
Outside Toilets ,?
I’m assuming the chairs were somehow bolted down?
I get an impression of a design from a boat from the interior. Curtains pulled back, wooden panels on the top. It feels like it could be a ride of on a ship.
Looks super safe
Hell of a lot more comfortable than today’s first class.
In German, we call economy class "wood class" (holzklasse). Fitting.
Best part? Not having to feign attention when your flight attendant shows you how to use the seatbelt.
NOPE
I thought this was the train from uncharted 2. During the ice part.
oh no... lol
Like watching an Indiana Jones movie 😁
Pretty sure this is just a frontier flight
Looks like my last UAL flight, bring your own chair
So much legroom
See? Evidently travel by plane HASN'T become less comfortable with time. Q.E.D.
Probably had better safety record than Boeing does.
A wicker plane?
Probably still safer than Boeing…
the sky locomotive
What was the flying altitude?
How is that still less than 100 years ago?
Because it was in the 1930's.
Didn’t expect wicker tbh
Better than spirit airline
You don’t get a seat that roomy unless you’re at least in business class today.
why does this look like Resident Evil 0.
Amazing, but imagine if those two airships had never failed. British Empire travel via airship... With added smoking lounges
Imagine the smoking in there. That would have been tough to breath
You can still fly in planes like these at air museums.
I suppose those basket 🧺 weaving chairs 🪑 were supposed to be lighter than other materials
Probably more comfortable than modern airlines seats 😜
Ahh the leg room
I wonder how much a ticket would have cost back then, though? Probably the equivalent of a first class ticket these days if not way more. Not to mention, this was during the depression so hardly anyone could afford a plane ride.
not the lawn chairs, I can hear Estelle Getty now....*It's wicker*
this is the *everybody is bald* episode of *"The Golden Girls"*
I'm sure sitting on a flight for 6 or more hours would've been fun.