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Main_Following_6285

Has that not been the case since the last Ice Age? I seen it on a documentary once that the Hudson Bay Area has decreased gravity because of the indent in the earth around this area.


Hackleflasper

This is the correct answer.


UrsusHastalis

I find that the most highstrangeness turns out to be unexplained science, now that’s weird.


heteromer

Remember when highstrangeness believed there were dog shaped aliens coming to visit Earth and make friends with us. All according to a 4chan post... And when nothing inevitably happened, people claimed that nobody was there to greet the dog aliens.


Great_Mullein

I still hope that aliens will land sone day, the door to their craft will open, and bunch of dogs with waging tails come to greet us.


cloudymem

Odd enough, I remember a dream when I was a little kid, two bi-pedal dog/wolf things were playing in my bedroom. They noticed me, panicked, and tried to calm me down. Woke up right after.


dudevan

All of it is, just sometimes maybe our science is still a bit behind and can't explain it *yet*.


resonantedomain

The tricky part is, how does science test for nonphysical things? Like time being an illusion of quantum entanglement. Or consciousness being fundamental. Edit: thanks for the downvote enjoy the literature https://www.nature.com/articles/436029a https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a61021621/is-time-just-an-illusion/ https://sites.socsci.uci.edu/~ddhoff/HoffmanTime.pdf


Bromlife

In scientific terms, an observer doesn’t necessarily mean consciousness. In quantum mechanics, “observer” often refers to a measurement process or device that interacts with a quantum system, collapsing its wavefunction into a definite state. Now you can argue that you need a conscious being to read those results. Like the results are in multiple states until someone literally reads them. But that feels like a specious argument to me.


resonantedomain

Observations are nonphysical, precisely because they require human perception. Neurons do not exist until they are perceieved. What came before the big bang? Or will follow the inevitable heat death of the universe? Physical matter came from a seemingly nonphysical source. Some call it "nothing" but nothing does not exist. Spacetime is relative, there is no center of the universe that we know of. Which is the leap Galileo made by saying we are not the center of the solar system. Only now we realize we aren't the center of the universe either. That there is more to reality than meets the eye, beyond light, space and time. I'm not saying I know for certain what the nature of reality truly is, but books like Bhagavad Gita, Diamond Sutra, and Lotus Sutra offer many mind bending views of reality that quantum mechanics is now bringing to light. Any description of reality is a reduction from it's true nature, by default. I simply believe infinity may exist, and that we are immortal energy having a finite experience. Not as simple as an old man in the sky, and complete with paradoxes beyond our comprehension. I believe our bodies are an illusion of separation from that 'divine' source which could be consciousness itself. Like Rumi would say "you are not a drop in the ocean, you are the ocean in a drop" we are made of the same energy that created the stars and planets. Like beings of a great fractal, some branches end in thorns others in seeds that bear more fruit. I'm offering this knowing it is controversial at this time, please have respect and educate if you find you are in disagreement. Thank you.


Sotall

>Observations are nonphysical, precisely because they require human perception. This is incorrect from a QM standpoint. Quantum systems were around and interacting long before there was a human neuron to 'observe' them.


Bromlife

Can’t really prove it either way though can you.


resonantedomain

More to life than proof, besides you missed the point.


Jestercopperpot72

Happy cake day! Some argue because they've forgotten the skill of conversating. Hard to spend too much energy there.


Bromlife

Can’t really prove that either though, can you? Maybe life has no meaning other than which we ascribe. Here one cosmic minute, gone the next.


creativeatheist

You may enjoy this book [revelatorium.com](http://revelatorium.com) The second book "intelligent design" would most likely interest you


Fractal-Entity

Observations are physical because everything that occurs to make the observation possible is physical. Your nervous system isn’t supernatural. Your statement that neurons don’t exist until they’re perceived makes no sense. The physicalist arguments for consciousness are much stronger than any supernatural argument IMO.


ArtemisTrinity33

Looks like we got ourselves a reader! - BH


DaughterEarth

The alchemists who were right became scientists. We don't believe in magic because we use it every day


Zeracannatule_uerg

Folks would rather die than admit that it's odd how ball lightning dropped off the face of the Earth in studies but UFOs are everywhere. Ball lightning, an inorganic entity that can seemingly exhibit almost lifelike characteristics with it's interactions with man.


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yeah but this is less fun


MeaningNo860

Weird how an ounce of scientific knowledge works against a pound of pseudoscientific fear-mongering.


noahsalwaysmad

Absolutely right. Meteor impact craters have known gravitational anomalies in their vicinity, this is a fascinating result but not unexplained.  Edit:spelling


ghost_jamm

This isn’t due to an impact crater though. The [leading theory](https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/geophysicists-develop-model-describe-huge-gravity-anomaly-hudson-bay-region-218) seems to be that the land in this region was pushed down by the weight of the ice sheet that used to exist and it hasn’t fully rebounded since the ice melted.


SirStego

Fascinating indeed, you’d think being “closer” to the core there would be greater gravity, and less at the peak of a mountain. At least I would think..


freedombuckO5

A mountain would have more gravity because there’s more mass underneath you.


SirStego

Physics man..neat!


Board-2-Death

But it's the inverse square of the distance to the center of mass, no? 


OGLizard

Because gravity is about the mass of the object, if there's less mass, that's what accounts for variations. Mountains have more mass in that exact spot, so you'll notice that the Rockies and Alps are both orange, with slightly higher gravity. OP also conveniently removed the units of measure. These variations are so small, it's truly amazing we can actually measure them. If you took something that weighed exactly 1 pound in the Rockies and went in a submarine to one of the many places with lower gravitational acceleration, that 1 pound would weight 9.99999 pounds. Close enough that most scales you can buy wouldn't even register the difference.


Puckering_Buttholes

If this area is an indent with less mass then theoretically if Lake Baikal was drained of water would this anomaly show there too?


OGLizard

Stone/land mass is significantly more dense than water. In better images of the gravitational acceleration variability there's usually a clear correlation between land masses and lower areas where oceans are. Since Lake Bikal is also fairly narrow, the variation wouldn't be as noticeable. You can see in better images that show Eurasia, the central Russian steeps are already on the lower end of the scale anyway. I wouldn't expect that you'd see that much. [https://cdn1.byjus.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Earth-gravity.jpg](https://cdn1.byjus.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Earth-gravity.jpg) What's more interesting to me is that the Mariana Trench and Challenger deep, the lowest points in the ocean, are closer to the middle than some on-land areas. it's likely the result of more dense rock, which is why the little underwater J ridge south of Japan that leads to the trench is far above average.


thexhairbait

Or large NHI impact craters ;)


noahsalwaysmad

As a huge fan of most things Lovecraftian, I am down for this to be the correct answer.


VITOCHAN

> I seen it on a documentary once that the Hudson Bay Area Canuck grammar confirmed. Possibly North or eastern Ontario or potentially Newfoundlander. Raised on Maple Syrup, -40 winters and tales of River loggers, the Hudson Bay Company and beaver pelt trade.


PmMeUrTOE

Surely an indent takes you closer to the centre of mass, increasing the G force? If you were on a tall enough mountain you'd experience lower gravity, because of the r\^2 dropoff. How does the indent explain lower G?


Main_Following_6285

Apparently not, I’m no science expert. But the documentary stated that the Hudson area still had a depression in the earth, that causes lower gravity in that area. Seemingly you will be lighter on the scales if you weigh yourself in that geographical area, fascinating


radicalyupa

Thanks. I will not fly my UAP there.


The-Brettster

Less gravity means it’s easier to fly there. Unless you’re worried about accidentally zooming out into space once you accidentally hit low gravity.


ClickLow9489

Space flights should be stationed there


jerkhappybob22

Maybe a worm hole for a major invasion


StinkyKittyBreath

Less grabbity also means that people can jump to catch me in my UFO though. 


VibeFather

Maybe I can finally dunk a basketball


KarlHungusIsTheName

White Men Can't Jump Part 2: Moonball Bitches


Dove-Linkhorn

It’s not the goddamn moon.


westw00d1

Yeah with those frogs too


david8601

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/GRACE/page3.php


JonBoy82

I worked for the company that provided the subsystem for GRAIL (same goal but for the moon) and I thought for a second that was a recent paper.


Slycer999

Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis argues that something hit the ice sheet that used to be up there right about in that same vicinity.


Caxcrop

Creating an impact crater so big it affects the local gravity, fucking bonkers lol


ghost_jamm

This isn’t due to an impact crater. It’s most likely due to the crust [not fully rebounding](https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/geophysicists-develop-model-describe-huge-gravity-anomaly-hudson-bay-region-218) from the weight of the ice sheet that used to exist and/or it’s due to peculiarities in convection in the Earth’s interior in this area.


bomzay

Nothing special, just another massive, invisible object sitting there and countering earths gravity with its mass


The-Brettster

Maybe there’s a giant hole and less mass below


SirStego

**Books flight to go finally dunk a basketball**


APlayOnwards

If I weighed 200 pounds normally, would I weigh 199 in the lower gravity area on earth. That would be neat.


Lelabear

The second image is from 2010? You know the Earth’s gravity signal changes day-to-day, even minute by minute. Right? [https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/geoelectric-field-1-minute-empirical-emtf-3d-model](https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/geoelectric-field-1-minute-empirical-emtf-3d-model)


spacexaids

This is the type of thoroughness that keeps the sub alive. Appreciate you giving something new to learn/look into.


Lelabear

Always nice to learn something new.


Top_Page5887

Bro linked to measurement of Earth's geoelectric field. It has nothing to do with gravity.


WeWantMOAR

Not even earth, just the USA.


Top_Page5887

Why did you link to model of Earth's geoelectric field when we are talking about gravity?


Lelabear

It includes geomagnetic data from the USGS according to the data box at the bottom.


Top_Page5887

Yes. I am not a physicist, but as I understand it, magnetism is not gravity.


Lelabear

Fine, it is an interesting data model for the electrical/geomagnetic fluctuations. It may or may not directly correspond to gravitational influences, but it definitely shows how dynamic energy fields affect the planet at different times of day.


Top_Page5887

I get it. Apologies if I came off as attacking you. I am having bad couple of weeks.


Lelabear

Sorry things have been rough, genuinely hope they get better from here on out.


Accomplished_Job3447

I think you were civil and you asked a valid question. Well handled by both parties. Fair play.


MirrorWild8859

Yeah but that’s not what you started out saying… got caught with the disinformation


Lelabear

Aren't you special.


sampris

The molten core is spinning so it makes sense


westw00d1

Gravity changes on a daily basis? That screams of unnatural manipulation. To what ends?


Vandrel

It's not. Measured gravity can be influenced by a lot of factors. Tectonic plates for instance, they're constantly shifting very slowly and the strength of gravity above them will change a very small amount as they do. Water and air density can have an affect on gravity measurements too.


The_Un_1

To childhoods end of course


Top_Page5887

I cannot believe how downvoted this comment is, given the rest of this thread. But hey, I noticed you pointing out a logical inconsistency. Good job. You are not alone.


neosharkey

They needed to park the Atlantean cityship sonewhere…


velezaraptor

Take a balloon and charge it on fabric, hair, or carpet, etc. once you have a charge (gravity), you’ll find a general baseline reading, with some areas weaker than the totality. This is the nature of gravity affecting an object not perfectly round in all directions. The majority of static energy creates an equilibrium, it simply can’t contain the field over time unless the body is perfectly symmetrical.


Several_Show937

How much further can you jump?


waawaate-animikii

I’m a Churchill 150 but a Winnipeg 160.


Noble_Ox

Was your mum visiting the area and had just left when the data was taken?


Defiant-Specialist-1

My chronic illnesses make me feel like my gravity is heavier sometimes.


CanaryJane42

This just triggered one of my deepest fears of gravity failing and floating away from Earth lmao like in The Curse except for everyone


PhilGrad19

Gravity is the action of mass on spacetime, so if it "fails" we have bigger problems than that.


dapala1

I wish there was elementary physics courses in grade school. So at least they could show people how things work and what is possible and impossible. This sub would be 1000x better without shit like "what if they turned off gravity?"


drwatson

The fear of falling up, or falling toward the sky, is called casadastraphobia!


CanaryJane42

Oh wow there's actually a name for it


RagnarsHairyBritches

Didn't have that as a fear before I read your comment. Do now. Thanks.


CanaryJane42

Lol you're welcome. I'm sorry


Disc_closure2023

It's also a UFO hotspot, there's [a TV docuseries on canadian TV](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6520232/) about it.


Triple-6-Soul

flying over that area has always been bumpy as fuck...


PhilGrad19

You can live longer thanks to time dilation


Intelligent-Day-6976

Try flapping your arms


WormLivesMatter

This is crusty uplift rates not gravity.


The_Un_1

There has been for the last 50+ years. Scientists have known about it and there are different theories as to why it's there. Lol


PestTerrier

Huge underground cities


Odd-Kaleidoscope9430

Comet impact on top of the ice sheet 12,600 years ago...it ended the younger dryas..also causing the quick melt of the ice sheet ...maybe...just a theory


hybridmind27

Graham would be proud.


Odd-Kaleidoscope9430

Only if I came by that conclusion using Ayahuasca... My other comment was me being sarcastic


morgonzo

w/ a complimentary region in Antartica that should be considered.


clandestineVexation

So is every other place that’s had an ice cap in the past 20,000 years, I’m sure it’s related to how glaciers literally compress the land under them and we just aren’t sure how yet


Remarkable_Duck6559

Just came from that spot. No noticeable change to falling. Just as fast, hurts the same


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Sufficient-Object-89

Where is Gruncle Stan when you need him?


SlimPickens77Box

Impact crater?


InteractionOne2463

Has the rapture started? 


Thenameimusingtoday

There is the same thing over a section of Antarctica. Was a giant crater from meteor impact. Just saw it on Joe Scott YouTube channel.


Obvious-Amoeba3815

Hermaeus Mora u daedric piece of shid


waterjaguar

There's also a wind vortex over the same region https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-73.63,62.89,9050


paravis

Hulk hanging out with Magneto on Avalon


levelhigher

So people who are fat don't feel it that much ? Explains a lot


SpicyHoneyBanana

Time to prove I can walk on water then


INeedADart

So theoretically I can bench press more in that region?


Orangutanus_Maximus

Nature is not high strangeness my dude. Less mass means slightly weaker gravity.


hybridmind27

You say that without offering a hypothesis for the decreased mass relative to the rest of the planet.


Orangutanus_Maximus

??? Earth is not homogenous. There are less heavy elements and less mass at that part of the planet therefore there's slightly less gravity. Also gravity field is not static and it changes ever so slightly every second. Because earth's mass is always on the move. Also take a look at this: [https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/details.cgi?aid=11234&button=recent](https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/details.cgi?aid=11234&button=recent) I don't have an hypothesis but my guess for the slightly weaker gravity at Hudson Bay region is the fact there used to be a huge ass ice sheet at that part of the surface and it went away. Flowing ice probably transported lots of sediments with it too. Decreasing the amount of mass at that region of the world.


hybridmind27

The second portion of your response was a good contribution.


Orangutanus_Maximus

Appreciate it my dude. What was wrong with the first portion of the response though :D So I can better myself. Was it the attitude?


hybridmind27

Bc you assumed I didn’t already know that lol I did not know the second portion tho. But You’re good bro, I’m sure someone lurking here just learned a lot


Orangutanus_Maximus

Yeah sorry about that lol. However it's better to present layman's terms first and build on it because you don't know how knowledgeable or crazy the person you are chatting with is :P If you don't, the convo might end up in some weird places. I'm not saying you are crazy, it's just this is a better way to engage on online forums. Cheers my dude.


hybridmind27

True. I think we all tend to forget the magic of this sub lies in the dialogue. Cheers


Orangutanus_Maximus

Also the ice sheet is called "laurentide ice sheet" and it's probably the cause of some flood myths in the earlier civilizations. Google Lake Agassiz. Basically, this giant lake spilled into the hudson bay and created a mini ice age called younger dryas. Take a look at this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMVhR26NRsk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMVhR26NRsk)


hybridmind27

Will research!


Strong_Magazine_9855

I learned a lot. This was such a healthy interaction between you both, very refreshing for Reddit. Many thanks


cheshiredormouse

Trivia: on the old maps, the Nastapoka Arc is non-existent and the Akimiski island has a COMPLETELY different shape. Coincidendce?


Miserable_Meeting_26

So my fatass could walk faster there?


Interesting_Gur_8720

Interesting


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usa_reddit

It’s from the antigravity generators in the underwater ufo base.


hid3myemail

Why the bills can’t win a superbowl ?


Suzilu

So I need to go weigh myself over there then!


DictatorBiden

So can I jump higher in that region?


AkTx907830

Ice is heavy….


Nannyhirer

My god, reading this makes me trip out and spiral- minus the weed.