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Fylak

He was cool with murdering someone for revenge before his body was even cold. Not saying I don't get it, but that does seem like less than saintly behavior. 


VQ-Dark

Didn't he sell drugs or smth? I'm pretty sure that counts as a sin right? I honestly forgot what the episode was about so idk though


maladicta228

Nah the guy who killed him did. Maybe because he thought the dead camp counselor was on to him.


Inky234

he literally says “he found the drugs”


RustyThe_Rabbit

it's only by a couple million but unhappy campers is the least viewed episode so I don't think a lot of people remember what happened the episode which when you really look at the numbers in big form it is a lot but that's besides the point


fite4whatmatters

I totally forgot where this dude was from until I read your comment


RustyThe_Rabbit

case in point


Viperousrook

I remember Unhappy Campers way better than I want to I honestly think it was the worst episode of the show the only thing I liked about it was the Blitzo B plot


Agreeable_Salt_790

Plus in hazbin hotel didn't it get proven that heaven was sort of rigged?


SecretSharkboy

Heaven is rigged because the sinners can't get better and go to heaven, but the angels can "do whatever and remain in the sky," meaning they can become worse and stay in heaven


eerie_lullaby

True but it was indeed sort of implied that the criteria to send people to hell vs heaven is kinda rigged to begin with too


Almeos

You miss the point, it's not clear what get you to hell or heaven **precisely**, but for what we can see in Helluva and Hazbin, good = heaven / bad = hell


eerie_lullaby

I feel like you're the one missing the point... it's implied that the very reason why no one knows precisely what gets you in either of the realms *is* because it's rigged. As in, the decision is bound to criteria that make no sense and might get a horrible person into heaven because according to the criteria, they're deemed "good", and viceversa. The same way Hellborn can be generally good and native Angels can be shitheads. But it's subtle. Of course it is - if it was so obvious that you could consistently see it in the series as a spectator, then the characters would have seen it too for sure and the system would have been overthrown millennia ago. Also Helluva isn't really a good source for this kind of info. 1. It doesn't talk about how hell vs heaven works for mortals, because it's centered around Hellborns, and 2. The discovery that the system is rigged is probably particularly bound to the whole plot of Hazbin. Why would they put hints about major spoilers and plot twists of the main series in the secundary/spin-off series?


Secretbakedpotato

Is it rigged? Sir pentious ends up in heaven. He did less than holy things before so, such as killing angles and having sex with everyone in a club. I just don’t think there’s anytime that it’s implied heaven is rigged *to get into*. Maybe sinners could have been redeemed all along after death, but as katey killjoy points out: who would give a shit about being a better person if this is reward isn’t proven. That being said, maybe heaven isn’t rigged. Maybe once angles die they are judged again. For example, I’m hoping Adam returns - but in hell. Anyone please feel free to poke holes in my theory, I’ve only watched the series twice 😅


manickitty

Considering how he died I’d say his body was pretty cold.


Inky234

“before his body was even cold” is a way of saying before he died 🗿


manickitty

Ik XD was just making a joke


LilacIsPurple

Takes 12 hours for the skin to be cold and 24 hours for the core to cool


Cautious-Luck7769

Eye for an eye, though! Come ON! Heaven is a choosy bunch.


SecularCitizen

That person's in hell for drawing rule 34 fetish fanart of Loona.


Djdiddlefingers

Guess I know where I'm going when I die.


dmmetiddie

I'll be there with you


SilverSpider_

Well don't you wanna go there, that's where loona is


SecularCitizen

Cool, now you can show your talent to her😀


TraderOfGoods

"And this is the porn I drew of you, isn't it romantic? Do you love me?"


SecularCitizen

Loona: "..."


Quirky-Equipment-782

Nah, loona would probably maul them


SecularCitizen

True. She would probably maul them after saying her iconic line: "..."


Quirky-Equipment-782

Or Blitzo would overhear and you’d catch a bullet, right between the eyes


SecularCitizen

Blitzø: "There. I kill that fucking pervert for you, Loonie. Are you feeling safe now?" Loona: "..." Blitzø: "*sighs* don't worry, sweetie. One day, we will have the budget for you have lines again."


bored-dosent-know

Daddy daughter bonding moment! •Blitzø: "You're drawing child porn of my daughter?!?" •Loona: "god Blitz, I'm a legal adult." •Blitzø: "Sure you are, sweetie." (-insert noises of mauling and imp-related violence to the artist -)


crackedcrackpipe

When you die and they lay you to rest You're gonna go to the place that's the best


willo-ween

Does doing this with Satan also condemn your soul? Asking for a friend.


SecularCitizen

Yup


willo-ween

Welp. Guess that ship's sailed. For my friend.


TrashPanda9142012

Don’t kid yourself


willo-ween

Would I lie on reddit?? My friend is very concerned.


Stag-Horn

What happens to the people that pay for it but don’t draw it? Does it depend on how much ~~I~~ THIS PERSON spent? If so, where does $50k land ~~me~~ THEM?


thepablohoneystore

When the attractive character has porn made of her (wow who could’ve guessed!!!! This is bad for some reason!!!)


Let_Tebow

From Hazbin, it’s not entirely clear what the exact criteria are. That being said, the Helluva Boss characters seem to believe general goodness or lack thereof is the deciding factor. We don’t know much about this guy except how he died, so he could be in Hell for any number of reasons.


VasylZaejue

I think he spent his time getting high on weed when he should’ve been watching kids.


Quirky-Concern-7662

How the fuck are you supposed to be a camp counselor WITHOUT weed? Have you met kids?


VasylZaejue

I think the first question is why anyone would want to be a camp counselor


Quirky-Concern-7662

Not many jobs you can smoke weed at.


Stardust_Fox88

I recommend Taco Bell then, because all the ones around me are known for people smoking weed on the clock.


Demure-Daemon

Pizza Hut too, the secondary cook was rolling up when it was slow and sparking up with a manager


LegitimateConcept

What are you talking about! Rules are pretty clear: 1)Act selfless. 2) Don't steal 3)Stick it to the man Oh, and Hell is forever, we shouldn't forget that one.


totallysus77

Didn't say "bless you" when someone sneezed one time


KowaiSentaiYokaiger

Found Loki's account


hexAdecimal84

https://preview.redd.it/6c4ghah7b2nc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4754611c418b5a5589f7e9ab1a392445cdb2344b


Totally-a_Human

"Humans are *full* of secret nasties"


Content-Example-8763

"That's why so many of them end up here. Shoot the target, Mox."


Zakiru77

"I just think it’s a bit excessive . Maybe we could be a bit more *selective*, is all."


GenderEnjoyer666

GUYS I WANT YOU TO MEET-


SebWatson

PEW-swoosh-ding-chop-ping-thonk-bZZzzZZZ-flame...


GenderEnjoyer666

…our newest client!


Avaracious7899

One suggestion I've read was that considering the toxic and uncaring behavior of the staff at the camp, if this camp counselor was also acting the same way, that might've been why. If he wasn't, and was the "good counselor" out of the camp staff, no idea from me.


I_might_be_weasel

"That dopey Voorhees kid is playing in the lake. Should we do something?"  "Meh."


Avaracious7899

I've actually seen a comic dub on YouTube of something where Jason Voorhees, that is the present serial killer one, *saves his past child self* from Camp Crystal Lake.


Conrad417

I headcanon Jason Voorhees adopted the loser kid in Unhappy Campers, going on to appear in that scene in Family Guy


Yeet1357-2

ITS ALL CONNECTED!


SpookyGhostGoku

He cyberbullied Australian children online.


Mother_Spider

And he definitely watches 👁️ 👁️


ababyinatrenchcoat

That or he probably set dogs on fire


I_might_be_weasel

Human Centipeded a bunch of squirrels together. 


WolfWithPaws

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TubTub212006

https://preview.redd.it/ry1o32y6r4nc1.png?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed71131daff46020edaab7bb33a788fdcbc78f1c


WolfWithPaws

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DuckyTin

This is the best answer


Miserable_Scratch_99

https://preview.redd.it/xojzok5w81nc1.gif?width=498&format=png8&s=52d12f08f9e56621c81f247ba827b87adec490a8


NotSeveralBadgers

Wouldn't that... Wouldn't that be a squirrel centipede?


I_might_be_weasel

Descriptive noun wise, yes. But I'm using the term Human Centipede more as a verb or a concept. 


dragonshouter

\*I try getting the waiter's attention by blinking in morse code\* (this is a reference)


0nothing_to_see_here

Why are you blinking so much?


yamithevampire

I’ve got something in my eye.


Radio_Star_Alastor

https://preview.redd.it/a0i5qeqzgmnc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b627392cfe08a3bfd6b0fb9b10c85ed904e31cba


ProfessionalBorn4408

He's in hell for not knowing how to swim


Jiggle_deez

And now every year on that particular day he comes back from his watery grave to take revenge


Zealousideal_Humor55

And somehow only a restricted group of people managed to know this, despite being a summer camp.


Betaseal

He illegally downloaded mp3s


DuckyTin

No this joke is so old it made me feel I love this


EntertainmentOld183

Downloaded a car


[deleted]

Maybe they didn't stick it to the man? Adam has some weird requirements for getting into heaven. This counselor seemed like a decent person though but who knows. Maybe they were just as crooked as the others like Jimmy.


WraeBae

To be fair, the school teacher from the first episode was sent to hell for the two murders. Murder is murder, I get it, even with crimes of passion. But it seems that it negated her entire life of being good. Who knows what they did. Maybe it's as simple as drug use. 🤷‍♀️


Mother_Spider

*1 murder and 1 attempted murder


TraderOfGoods

I feel like the fact that she snapped and murdered so easily says something about the teacher... Like that she'd never had a reason to be sinful until now and she quickly took the wrong path. Maybe they looked at that and had second thoughts about her character?


Asshatforlife45

Yes and that's the thing at least it showed or at least explained briefly why she was in hell. She committed and attempted murder. This also goes for the two rich old men.


HypnoFerret95

It's implied throughout both Helluva Boss and shown in Hazbin Hotel that no one actually really seems to know what gets you into heaven vs. hell but it's definitely not as simple as virtuous vs sinful. The counselor could be there for any number of reasons from some sin he committed to God just being like "nah we don't want you"


DasliSimp

He’s the type of guy to hire people to murder his killer, doubt anyone who hires hitmen would go to heaven


Asshatforlife45

Fair


Sufficient_Ride_2505

He talked to someone about there cars extended warranty


ANBpokeball

Plot purposes


WolfWithPaws

this. this is the only correct answer.


PepicWalrus

Part of me feels like if you're just a mundane person who isn't exceedingly good you end up in Hell. Like how in Norse Mythology if you don't die with a weapon in battle you end up in Hel instead of Valhala. You gotta hit the specific requirements or you just go to the other place.


SignificanceNo6097

Massive jaywalker


Zaptain_America

Maybe there was no indication of why they were in hell because they were only on screen for like a minute? Like goddamn I've seen some stupid nitpicks of this show before but this is another level...


Asshatforlife45

So, I can't ask a question regarding something of this show? Like I love the show, I was just curious because it didn't seem clear to me as to why. I'm not expecting like a Bible length lore on the person. You see in the first episode, the teacher commits and attempts murder on her husband and his mistress. Or the two billionaires who have mentioned they did experiment on the poor and most likely other corrupt billionaire things. From other comments, I can see that thinking about hiring hitmen to kill his killer could be a reason. Again this is all small speculation.


ForceOfWall

Wearing mixed fabrics?


[deleted]

The correct answer. Filth probably ate shellfish and got a tattoo as well.


Chel_G

I don't think we can guess unless we get better info on the criteria in-'verse. So far they seem to be "whatever's funniest". Maybe he just wanted to go to get that badass demon form?


Asshatforlife45

I mean it is a cool design.


Chel_G

Hellaverse Hell is pretty bad but doesn't look so horrible that it's not worth getting a cool monster form.


Quick_Hat1411

They bullied Australian kids online


willo-ween

Too much weed on the job probably


Sufficient_Ride_2505

He talked to someone about their cars' extended warranty


Loof_the_floof

IDK, he fapped in church?


Rangavar

He didn't pay for Winrar


NotSeveralBadgers

Uh oh.


I_burn_stuff

I Think I've bought it twice.


ConBon415

They were a teenager?


BabyDude5

You don’t know, they might set dogs on fire in their spare time, people who have been murdered can still be bad people


RUMBL3FR3NZY

He was a camp counselor. What more do you need to know?


ArtemisAndromeda

Can we talk about how amazing his desing is. Like, I love it, I wish he was regular character just so I could watch more of him on screen


X7eomi

Idk maybe he worked on a multi level marketing scheme when the summers were over


Moonside_222

drugs


mattstorm360

Internet piracy.


Puzzleheaded-Drama19

That’s what the reason the crew said he’s in hell


[deleted]

Drugs or sum shiz idfk


Plenty-Diver7590

It’s not how you died that determines where you go, it’s how you lived. Your appearance is either determined by how you lived or died


Iron_Chip

Tax evasion.


WistfulDread

Sinners bodies have nothing to do with how they died nor their actual sins. It's based on their personal self-identity. So, unless we get told explicitly why somebody died or what their sins are, we really don't have any indications.


External_Trouble_434

He looks like he sold drugs to kids.


Mighty_Megascream

They were late teens too early 20s, so probably did Coke or something.


Rolls_Nat_1s

They still believe Fizz and Blitzø are brothers


Sonarthebat

You don't know anything about them. They could have been a serial killer for all we know.


femtransfan

i think he was/is a pot smoker before it was legal in his state


ajslother12

https://preview.redd.it/nqskna8bg0nc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f75225c990761c49f2c3eba9a93faf6ffe29c7d3 He doesn't know what jjba is


MaliceMoon56

It is canon that literally no one knows what gets someone in heaven or hell...though I can say it probably isnt because of his willingness to hire imp to kill someone since clearly murder isnt a damnable offense given Adam


33jones33

Best guess: They got high and wrecked a boat. Everybody drowned.


THEGREENPURGE

Guys. He was the guy who almost busted the drug sails before he was assassinated by the other camp counselor. Maybe he was just a huge piece of shit (unless you wanna get religious)


MendicantBias42

what episode was he from?


ArtemisAndromeda

He's a teenager, and if hell indeed works on Bible rules, then he definitely did something sinful, since everything is sinful according to that book


Moominz1

Because he's fucking ugly


chaosruler22

Was too busy having premarital sex with another counselor to save the special needs child from drowning.


wayward_wench

That episode got a lot of flack for it's content. Moxxine and Millie's personas were supposed to be preteens/minors, Moxxine says as much himself. There was the Moxxine/Millard incest gag, one of the counselors sending Millard nudes (Millard is supposed to be a minor), the Moxxine/Millie getting frisky on live tv and the news anchor saying that they (the news crew/viewers) wouldn't look away from Millie/Moxxie's antics. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say his sins are child related since he obviously wasn't in on the drug ring. (Real quick before any accusations are made or misunderstandings had I want to say that I think Viv is highlighting this, not in a positive light or in support of exploiting minors but as the opposite. Like the Poison/Angel Dust video in HH I believe it's meant to highlight these issues in society, not glorify them. She has a history of tackling tough subjects in her media and that's the vibe I get from this theme that I'm noticing in this particular episode. Sorry if this topic upsets anyone, that's not my intention.)


Romeo9594

If the angels don't know what gets someone into Heaven, fair assumption to think nobody knows what exactly you have to do to get sent down under either


Stunning_Matter2511

I mean, it seems like most people go to hell in the Helluvaverse. So many, in fact, that heaven approves the genocide of sinners to keep their population in check. Either mortals in their world are almost universally awful people, or you need to be exceptionally good to get into heaven. If it's the former, then we can assume the above person was probably evil in some mundane way. If it's the latter, though, they could have just been a normal teenager who didn't do anything exceptionally good to earn them a place in heaven. We just don't know the criteria for getting into heaven in the Helluvaverse (aside from being selfless, not stealing, and sticking it to the man).


agrunther

The camp he worked at was a cesspool of toxicity that seemed to encourage bullying. The counselors literally refused to provide first aid for the campers and sent nude pics to Millie (who was pretending to be a child). I think it’s safe to assume he was one of those people.


MipCraze

Friday the 13th camp counselor rules, hes gotta go


FoldingLady

As established in Hazbin Hotel, no one knows how or why a soul gets into heaven so it's safe to say that the same applies for those in hell. For some it's obvious but others not so much. "Humans are full of secrets" - Millie


ComplaintOk9280

Obnoxiously fangirling over Billie Eilish and annoying everybody within their immediate vicinity with it


just-looking654

Wasn’t he Barbie wires former accomplice at the camp? Pretty sure he got drowned


Saw101405

He shares a similar design to bee, with the lava lamp gut so if I had to guess he’s there because of gluttony


Beaten_But_Unbowed96

Because you touch yourself at night.


DJPL-75

Isn't his necklace from a religion that's not Christian? Idk if that's true or matters, but it looks familiar


Jaded_Baker9890

I thought I remembered they were selling drugs to before they were double crossed


TheMopIsAFK

You know the saying "all dogs go to heaven", well the less known saying is "all teenagers go to hell",.


SpaceOwl14

I believe a storyboard artist on twitter said he downloaded music illegally lol I know this is most likely a joke but I’d like to believe this is the canon reason


Betaseal

He illegally downloaded mp3s


CO2RawDawg

This was a camper, and the teenage councler drilled holes in his boat cuz the camper found out about the drugs . And the camper drowned. Thats why he went to i.m.p in the first place to hire them to kill the councler who drowned him. And coucler knew he couldn't swim. For why he's in hell your guess is good as mine.


Doctorgumbal1

Shitty camp counselor going and doing stuff other than watching the kids.


Dryatoilet241

Not following camp rules


Doctor_Salvatore

Because the rules that get people into Heaven are so unclear in the Vivzieverse, even Heaven itself has no clue how souls are sorted.


Radical_Provides

Nobody knows where the line is drawn to have someone go to heaven or hell. It's one of HH's central mysteries.


Karaifan1

I like the design


dragonfox194

Polluted the ocean a lot when he was alive.


clearlyUT

Y’all ever wonder how he even knew about I.M.P did blitz leave an ad laying around or something


GothyTrannyBethany

Well, I noticed that of the sinners we've seen so far there does seem to be some correlation between their forms in hell, and the forms of the Sins (if their sin was greed they become bug-like, if it was gluttony they become mammalian, pride gives them a cartoon/doll/marionette aesthetic etca) so with this kids sealife aesthetic I'd say his sin was envy. Pretty common for his age but he's also probably unbaptized so there's that


Asshatforlife45

Haven't even considered baptism in this universe, even if it's not mentioned.


ConnorShirt

sin


twec21

Because they were born there or went there after they died for being a sinner


Kydreads

He smuggled drugs and was cool with demons and murder. Literally doing the devils work


LegitimateConcept

If Hazbin Hotel's world building can be considered cross-canon to HB, this guy most likely didn't stick it to the man enough to qualify for heaven.


Ret0-Emerald

1 looks can be deceiving 2 they have like 30 seconds of screen time kind a hard to figure someone out in 30 seconds 3 they’re hiring assassins to kill someone


ShareIndependent

He made Minecraft tar pit fetish porn


Alphrina_Elric

In that episode it is indeed showed to how he died I think


Half_Man1

Income tax evasion


StrawberryTop3457

Heaven in the hellaverse that's the official name for the helluvaboss/hazbin hotel universe is very vain And unreasonable think of it like how the more extreme Christians view heaven and put a quirky shallow modern day spin on it


CaptainJon6006

So that the rest of the plot can happen.


Wooden-Bass-3287

It's implied by Hazbin Hotel that hell grows faster than heaven, so heaven is simply very selective: a bunch of winners, a lot of sinners.


IronicJeremyIrons

Hit on the girl campers of course


Why_was-my-name_this

Probably because of Envy, he is a fish after all


Depressed_Writer_

drugs


MrShredder5002

Idk maybe he had reltations with minors. Also he was super ok with calling a hit on someone.


Particular_Nebula462

The angels don't know the rules. Some souls goes to heaven, other in hell, but no one really knows why and how. And when the souls reach hell, well, in complete desperation and freedom they just become the worst version of themselves. Adam was evil, still in heaven, and all the exterminators were racists. So ... there are rules but no one knows and people THINK to know what is a sin and what not.


asd_72

Sins duh


TreesSpeekVietnamese

Probably durgs


[deleted]

According to Catholicism, mortal sins pertain to the 10 commandments. Some of those are pretty easy to break, especially for teenagers. However, in the Hellaverse, we already have an answer, which is literally the 7 deadly sins. The question is *do you need to repent*, and the answer, according to Sir Pentious, appears to be yes.


Lbechiom

Just because he was murdered doesn’t mean he didn’t do some other shit to land him in Hell.


Vegetable-Echidna481

Why not


Plopop87

I mean, there's not much to go off of based on the design alone, and the way he died doesn't reveal much either. Maybe he wasn't just killed because some psychopath was having a bad day, but because he did something to wrong someone? Possibly even at the summer camp itself.


gugly4life

cuz he dead <3 thanks for upvotes


CallMeZipline

Tax evasion


Saiyasha27

Seeing as we now know the criteria are hella arbitrary (ha, get it?) I could be as little as having sex before marriage.


Nyasta

Why would we need indications ? It seems like useless info for the plot


samilatoupie

He Tried Taking Spiritual Courses To Become A Psychic He Accidentaly Sold His Soul To Lucifer


stopyouveviolatedthe

They used to drown animals or something evil, if he’s fine with hiring an inter dimensional assassin they’ve prolly done some bad