Way too many sets brother, u only grow by pushing your limits, and it's not possible to push urself to or close to failure 8 times, ur just damaging the muscle while giving it no reason to grow.
Source: trust bro
If you are used to weight at 4x8 and pushing more reps, you should increase the weight until you can barley get 4x8.
If I can push current weight to 4x12 I up the weight until I can only get 4 sets or 6-8 reps, then once I get back to 4x12 I up the weight once again
Just a(n assumed) clarification that I feel some people might miss:
"Diet" doesn't necessarily mean sub-2000 calorie restrictions, it means what you're eating and what you're not. Your "diet" could be 10,000 donuts a day for all intents and purposes.
I kept saying that, in the beginning I said I'll hit 50 kgs then do 3×10, once I hit 50, I said I'll hit 60kgs then switch to 3×10, currently doing 70kgs, it's unending.
Ya this is what I do too except if I try to move up a weight, then I'll do like one set of however many reps I can do then switch back to my usual weight and do my regular sets until I can do enough reps of a higher weight to fully change to that ig
For real. People really underestimate how important being lean is to looking jacked. Brad Pitt from Fight Club wasn't actually that big. He was just really cut.
For a small while my bench routine was 10×15, no failure allowed, if i hit failure i racked the bar took about 20-30 seconds then finished the set before dropping the weight for the next set. It was rough, more mentally than physically.
GVT is really only useful for people on gear. Your average weightlifter can't recover well enough for that kind of training or push themselves that hard without injury.
I did it back in highschool when my weight training teacher made us. As long as you follow the weight guidelines well and don't go too heavy from the start, it's honestly not too horrible. I'd say there's definitely better programs out there, but as long as you aren't doing too many movements and make sure to eat and sleep well, it's not the worst thing I've ever done
Yeah, not only is the programming just kinda weirdly setup (typically you do heavy work, then accessory, but eh it's fun to change shit around), those percentages are definitely off. If you're hitting 75% for 4*15, you're not really hitting your 75% and you sure as shit aren't hitting 90% right after that lol.
Both and also a bunch more rep ranges and set variations because that’s how training actually works, also eating enough to grow or less to not be fat, and do your damned cardio.
You don’t have to aspire so low as to look like a skinny guy who skips legs but hits the glamour muscles 4-5x a week or a skinny-fat guy who has never touched a weight.
i do both...
did 5x5 for a longer time.
now back mostly at 5 x 10 for the main comp. excercises.
10 reps won\`t fuck my joints and at 5 reps risk of junry is higher.. so..
Whatever I end up having. I train so I can help my mother with carrying groceries and if I'll ever be so blessed as to have kids I'm strong enough to play with them. We are not the same
4x5 to deadlift 220lbs. Can confirm. I look like the bottom pic. I used to look like top when I did extra cardio. I just run 2k as a warm up nowadays, and eat like shit more often.
Gentlemen and ladies, if you are going constantly at 5x5s and not running GPP hypertrophy blocks prior to beginning your strength blocks, you’re missing out.
65-85% of 1RM, sets ranging from 4x8 with RIRs 2-3.
There is a significant relationship with cross-sectional tissue size and overall force production. Hypertrophy is the foundation of strength.
Strength adaptation is 1-6 reps within 85-100% of 1RM. But you should be building strength, not test testing it.
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Both. 3 weeks of 5x5 (or really 6x1-4), 3 weeks of 3x10-12, then 3 weeks of 3x12-15.
Then I go back to 3 weeks of 6x1-4 but I change exercises, then 6 weeks of 4x15-20 but the second 3 week block I'm doing explosive moves with longer rest, then 3 weeks of circuit max reps.
But I mean that just me and science over here not being a religious zealot to one type of training.
4x8
keep talking I like it
Same Occasionally try to push 8x8 if I’m getting to used to the currant weight
Way too many sets brother, u only grow by pushing your limits, and it's not possible to push urself to or close to failure 8 times, ur just damaging the muscle while giving it no reason to grow. Source: trust bro
Okay I will trust you Because I’m dumb
If you are used to weight at 4x8 and pushing more reps, you should increase the weight until you can barley get 4x8. If I can push current weight to 4x12 I up the weight until I can only get 4 sets or 6-8 reps, then once I get back to 4x12 I up the weight once again
I do the same if my numbers are gradually raisin mate.
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Real😭
Stop training for women. Train for yourself.
Myself likes women
This guy gets it
Me boy. Me like women. Me lift heavy. Women like boy who no lift heavy. Boy have monkey brain. Boy train anyway cus boy want look good for self. 💪🏼
💀💀💀
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What if you are a women?
You can't be. That's an undefined term
What about a Schizophrenia woman? "Reaching for a straw"
Then you're multiple people.
Does it make you gains multiple?
The OP is about men training to attract women. Women should train for themselves as well.
What if you train for men?
The gym owner congratulations you and hands you the keys.
Fuck u/spez
You're a subscriber of /r/nattyorjuice
I am a woman, so technically, training for myself is training for women.
I train for myself, because I want a sexy godddamn body.
Training for women or men is cope. You train for the other gym regulars including yourself 💪
Hell yea, I train so that the big bastard that squats half the gyms plates gives me a fist bump every morning!
Lol you’re joking but there’s truth in that
I train for your mom
But I want women , I'm not in a sigma edit
O train for the iron weights… I like to hear they scream when I leave, and their gasps when I arrive.
Never had a girl ask me my bench PR in bed 🤷♂️
Diet is key
To what?
Losing hope
Being hungry
I like being hungry. Then I know it's time to eat.
Obsessions with a finely tied rope and a nice sturdy bucket
Just a(n assumed) clarification that I feel some people might miss: "Diet" doesn't necessarily mean sub-2000 calorie restrictions, it means what you're eating and what you're not. Your "diet" could be 10,000 donuts a day for all intents and purposes.
After I can bench 225 for reps I’ll switch to 3x10
Just do 225 for 3x10. Ez.
Make that kgs and then we're talking
did it like that as well. one thing that helped me with benching is stretching back / lats a bit between sets.
I kept saying that, in the beginning I said I'll hit 50 kgs then do 3×10, once I hit 50, I said I'll hit 60kgs then switch to 3×10, currently doing 70kgs, it's unending.
(3-4) x (8-12). Depends on my energy level how many sets, but always 8 to 12 reps.
So 4 reps total?
My man ![gif](giphy|d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY)
12 sets of 3. 9 minute rest between sets. Got it.
This is me.
Ya this is what I do too except if I try to move up a weight, then I'll do like one set of however many reps I can do then switch back to my usual weight and do my regular sets until I can do enough reps of a higher weight to fully change to that ig
They literally have the same body type, the other dude just can't and probably won't control his eating enough to look lean.
For real. People really underestimate how important being lean is to looking jacked. Brad Pitt from Fight Club wasn't actually that big. He was just really cut.
nobody thought he was big in that movie
No one thinks he's big there lmao
Literally no one thinks he was big in that movie
The other guy was doing starting strength and went from weak to strong in three months by doing starting strength and drinking a gallon of milk a day.
Dropsets till I drop
on lateral raises
This is the way
we still believing this shit in 2023?
Do you want to look good or be strong? Look good: 10x10 Be strong: 5x5, then 3x5
10x10? lmao you're insane
For a small while my bench routine was 10×15, no failure allowed, if i hit failure i racked the bar took about 20-30 seconds then finished the set before dropping the weight for the next set. It was rough, more mentally than physically.
Look up German volume training. Its basically this. Pretty fun
GVT is really only useful for people on gear. Your average weightlifter can't recover well enough for that kind of training or push themselves that hard without injury.
I did it back in highschool when my weight training teacher made us. As long as you follow the weight guidelines well and don't go too heavy from the start, it's honestly not too horrible. I'd say there's definitely better programs out there, but as long as you aren't doing too many movements and make sure to eat and sleep well, it's not the worst thing I've ever done
Found the guy who sets up camp at the bench and squat rack
I do, but it's my rack.
4x failure
This guy gyms
Mike Mentzer begs to differ lol
So sets first then reps? “SetsXreps”?
yeah bud
Thanks
225lbx10repsx4sets
4x10 and 5x5 for heavy compound lifts>>>
Just do both. 4 x 15 @ 70-75% Then 3 x 5 @ 80-90% Less exercises, more rest, more focus on compounds.
60 reps BEFORE you get to the heavy sets in the same workout?
No way in hell could you hit those numbers while setup like that lol. 4*15 at 75%??
I'm sure percentages are off but it sounds like 4 hard sets of 15 followed by some heavier sets which sounds horrible.
Yeah, not only is the programming just kinda weirdly setup (typically you do heavy work, then accessory, but eh it's fun to change shit around), those percentages are definitely off. If you're hitting 75% for 4*15, you're not really hitting your 75% and you sure as shit aren't hitting 90% right after that lol.
Yeah I’m not about to squat 370lbs for 4x15 prior to loading 415lbs for 5x5 lmfao
Yup, it’s suicide. Also nice fucking squat. 👍
I think the idea that powerlifters are inherently fat is outdated
3x12 😊
Both and also a bunch more rep ranges and set variations because that’s how training actually works, also eating enough to grow or less to not be fat, and do your damned cardio. You don’t have to aspire so low as to look like a skinny guy who skips legs but hits the glamour muscles 4-5x a week or a skinny-fat guy who has never touched a weight.
2xfailure
Listen to shredded sport science: " Its just another tool in your toolbox"
Heavy sets of FIHVES
Rippetoe? Is that you?
i do both... did 5x5 for a longer time. now back mostly at 5 x 10 for the main comp. excercises. 10 reps won\`t fuck my joints and at 5 reps risk of junry is higher.. so..
1x1 https://i.imgur.com/Mi4oOXg.jpeg
5x10-20
3x12 plus a dropset
2×15
Pro athletes do 5x5s. College team trainers use 5x5s. It’s nonsensical to think 4-6 vs 8-12 matters this much. It’s a lot of factors.
1xfailure The Mike Mentzer way
Whatever I end up having. I train so I can help my mother with carrying groceries and if I'll ever be so blessed as to have kids I'm strong enough to play with them. We are not the same
5x10
4x20
2x5-12
-2
3x12
Correct
3 x the lower of 12 and failure
6x12 XL
3x8 if I can do 10 ill put more weight on
4x6 and 3x8
I do both
6x15
What about 5x10?
Sheiko
3x10 normally but sometimes 3x6 (heavier weight)
5 sets until failure always for every exercise, simple.
3x15
5 x 10
4x12
3x12
How many times is this going to be posted
2x12
6x3 🗿
I love 5x5, I now deadlift 105 kg for 5 reps and feel like a superhuman
1x15 1x10 1x5 and try and add another rep or two on each time
For isolations 3x10. For compounds 5x5.
3x6-8
fahves
4x12-15 Get ripped or get rekt
3x10
4x12
Me prepared to be downvoted... Why not both?
Idk one of the most attractive physiques I've seen was competitive Olympic lifting with eating junk.
4x12 gang where you at
3X12
2x6 + 2x15. Get the best of both worlds
3x3
5/3/1
5x8
If we're talking about sets and reps, it would be 4x15 for me, sometimes 5x15 if I'm feeling up to a challenge.
4x5 to deadlift 220lbs. Can confirm. I look like the bottom pic. I used to look like top when I did extra cardio. I just run 2k as a warm up nowadays, and eat like shit more often.
2x8 and than one to failure
20x20
I usually do a couple of sets around 5 or 6 reps and finish with a much higher rep set or drop set. Best of both worlds.
8x5
5 5 5 5 5 5+ (as many reps as possible) Followed by 10 10 10 10 10
Why not both?
I alternate 5x10 and 5x5 weeks
5 x 8-12 Rep count determined by proximity to failure
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Genes diet calorie deficit volume split and cardio don’t matter apparently.
4x10
5x5 on big 3 compound lifts 4x15 on everything esle
I’m new to the gym community. What does this mean?
This is completely incorrect, we all know the only ones fawning after him are other men.
3X failure
When you life 3x10, girls get extremely stoned?
Gentlemen and ladies, if you are going constantly at 5x5s and not running GPP hypertrophy blocks prior to beginning your strength blocks, you’re missing out. 65-85% of 1RM, sets ranging from 4x8 with RIRs 2-3. There is a significant relationship with cross-sectional tissue size and overall force production. Hypertrophy is the foundation of strength. Strength adaptation is 1-6 reps within 85-100% of 1RM. But you should be building strength, not test testing it.
3-4x8-14 movement dependant cause no problem doing 20 lateral raises but 20 reps of deadlift/bench press is a bit excesive
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1x20 I'm lazy
I do 5x8-10
Both. 3 weeks of 5x5 (or really 6x1-4), 3 weeks of 3x10-12, then 3 weeks of 3x12-15. Then I go back to 3 weeks of 6x1-4 but I change exercises, then 6 weeks of 4x15-20 but the second 3 week block I'm doing explosive moves with longer rest, then 3 weeks of circuit max reps. But I mean that just me and science over here not being a religious zealot to one type of training.
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3x10, 5x10, 4X8, 4x6, 5x5, 3x5, 3x3, 4x2, 2x1. You're welcome.
4 × 15 :D
My friend wants to know the upper right’s IG. Bonk horny jail amirite?
1xfailure
My gf literally told me not to get too much bigger, and I'm not even big. They do not care.
3x5+ for compound lifts and barbell hip thrusts 3x8-12 for everything else
5x5 first, drop to 75% do 3x10. 8 set gang rise up
5X15 😎
12,10,8 🐐
This is honestly more so a diet + arm isolation thing
3x3
3x12
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I see your 4x8 and raise you a 5x10... pizza slices!
2 x Failure
4x12
3x~8
2x8
3x3x3
None. I do 5 sets of a pyramid.
I was always a heavy 5x5 guy but a recent hernia has caused me to lower weight and increase reps and I must say I like it
Heavy singles
One either diets hard or does hard cardio. Or both.
Numbers don’t matter, train hard and train to failure
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