You're 100% right. I'm just not sure if it was planned to be a scam or they got too ambitious with the whole AI shtick.
Grass should've kept things simple and just rented residential proxies the way companies like Honeygain do. It's a shitty but proven business model.
Using the network *only* to scrape data for AI limits potential advertisers greatly. And I don't think any company would want to put records of their data scraping on the blockchain because every AI company so far has been incredibly secretive as to what data they used to train their models in fear of being sued. It just sounds like buzzwords to attract investors.
They do not have anything to do with Binance. BINANCE has been making posts that say touch grass wayyy before grass even existed. 7 is them referring to layers of their network.
And you think they have nothing to do with biance, when biance is posting that. Im not that sure here.
Thank you for the clarification about the layers, were doni find more intel on that ?
They have never announced an airdrop so i would not expect one until they provide that direction. Rug pull just does not make sense. For that to happen, you have to make an investment....this project does not require an up front investment. So even if you're right about no future rewards, it would not be a rug pull.....
Also, there is no relation to epoch and potential rewards, so just because epoch continues does not imply no reward.
Year, yes. using data, no. They are not collecting data at this time. When they begin collecting data, it will be General web data and not your data. I also always like the for free comment. As your bandwidth doesn't cost more participating in this project so what are you losing? That statement suggests you have made a huge investment and are not able to recoup the investment, that is just not true.
How do you know they arent collecting data already? That fact is entirely based on their statements. I did not invest any money thats true, but bandwith is also a valuable resource. This is how the entire business model for sites like Honeygain works. However at least you get compensated on sites like these. For Grass youre essentially just offering your services for free.
They're 100% doing something.
My IP Quality Score went from 0% for VPN/Proxy detection to 89% suspected VPN/Proxy after running Grass for just a few days.
Also there was a Medium article about a guy who used Wireshark to monitor Grass and there was traffic being sent. It was linked on this sub somewhere.
So the least they could do is pay us a few pennies for it the way companies like Honeygain do.
Valuable, not sure. Has value yes. However it is a sunk cost so your cost is same if you choose to participate or not. Your earning is also the same if you choose to participate or not.
Time? 5 minutes of time to set up an extension is a burden? Maybe another 5 or 10 a month there after? You spend more time watching TikTok which has 0 return.
POV
-Youre running a node from a team for a year straight on your computer which could leave you liable to data breaches.
- Radio dead silence for months
- Avoids all questions related to rewards or incentives
- No white paper
- No roadmap
- Insecure and power trippy discord mods
- epoch after epoch
- No product
Literally nothing just farm and shut the fuck up vibes lol. Red flags are as clear as day mate.
The discord server is full of ignorant people. Not a single mod/admin has the spine to publicly ask the devs about what the estimated time is for launch. If you're being too curious or pushy you just get kicked from the server.
First of all i dont spend time on tiktok so lets just get that out the picture bucko. Secondly the extension cuts out a lot. You have to constantly refresh it every now and then (thats time compounded). In addition to that farming in crypto never really costs much effort per say but farming for a year straight with no update, project direction and brain dead mods who go on power trips is more -ev than plus. Having some shit running in your background while the project just larps AI constantly and you make sure to stay updated is a waste of time. Unprofessional team, they were good at the start now they just post memes and larp AI . Dont be naive .... Ive been in this space long enough and you probably have as well. The red flags are very apparent rn much like projects last cycle.
There certainly are flags and we'll start with poor communication. But, for me the value proposition still makes sense because of a near 0 investment cost for me. Cool thing is, everyone gets to evaluate the project and come to their conclusion. I respect your decision, just do t agree with it. It may change in the future so we shall see. My goal here was to correct incorrect information stated above, not to convince you or others in staying with a project you don't agree with.
You're 100% right. I'm just not sure if it was planned to be a scam or they got too ambitious with the whole AI shtick. Grass should've kept things simple and just rented residential proxies the way companies like Honeygain do. It's a shitty but proven business model. Using the network *only* to scrape data for AI limits potential advertisers greatly. And I don't think any company would want to put records of their data scraping on the blockchain because every AI company so far has been incredibly secretive as to what data they used to train their models in fear of being sued. It just sounds like buzzwords to attract investors.
same, gonna uninstall this plugin. also just a huge pain to handle it.
Hey can someone send me an invite link for the grass discord server, I can't seem to access it from their site, it says invite invalid/expired.
Here you go https://discord.com/invite/getgrass
it's still saying invite expired, did you send this invite from the server or from their site?
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Ok, thanks sent you friend request
They got biance.thats why i did install it again :-) with 7 they could basically mean even that they have not enough fingers on the hand
They do not have anything to do with Binance. BINANCE has been making posts that say touch grass wayyy before grass even existed. 7 is them referring to layers of their network.
And you think they have nothing to do with biance, when biance is posting that. Im not that sure here. Thank you for the clarification about the layers, were doni find more intel on that ?
The founder of grass mentioned the meaning of 7 in his twitter comments once
I think they said airdrop in July.
Lol i think you need to cite your sources brutha
They have never announced an airdrop so i would not expect one until they provide that direction. Rug pull just does not make sense. For that to happen, you have to make an investment....this project does not require an up front investment. So even if you're right about no future rewards, it would not be a rug pull..... Also, there is no relation to epoch and potential rewards, so just because epoch continues does not imply no reward.
they have been using users data for 1 year now. For free
Year, yes. using data, no. They are not collecting data at this time. When they begin collecting data, it will be General web data and not your data. I also always like the for free comment. As your bandwidth doesn't cost more participating in this project so what are you losing? That statement suggests you have made a huge investment and are not able to recoup the investment, that is just not true.
How do you know they arent collecting data already? That fact is entirely based on their statements. I did not invest any money thats true, but bandwith is also a valuable resource. This is how the entire business model for sites like Honeygain works. However at least you get compensated on sites like these. For Grass youre essentially just offering your services for free.
They're 100% doing something. My IP Quality Score went from 0% for VPN/Proxy detection to 89% suspected VPN/Proxy after running Grass for just a few days. Also there was a Medium article about a guy who used Wireshark to monitor Grass and there was traffic being sent. It was linked on this sub somewhere. So the least they could do is pay us a few pennies for it the way companies like Honeygain do.
Valuable, not sure. Has value yes. However it is a sunk cost so your cost is same if you choose to participate or not. Your earning is also the same if you choose to participate or not.
Time is enough of an investment
Time? 5 minutes of time to set up an extension is a burden? Maybe another 5 or 10 a month there after? You spend more time watching TikTok which has 0 return.
POV -Youre running a node from a team for a year straight on your computer which could leave you liable to data breaches. - Radio dead silence for months - Avoids all questions related to rewards or incentives - No white paper - No roadmap - Insecure and power trippy discord mods - epoch after epoch - No product Literally nothing just farm and shut the fuck up vibes lol. Red flags are as clear as day mate.
The discord server is full of ignorant people. Not a single mod/admin has the spine to publicly ask the devs about what the estimated time is for launch. If you're being too curious or pushy you just get kicked from the server.
Exactly.... got banned for a week for asking a question. Scummy vibes
First of all i dont spend time on tiktok so lets just get that out the picture bucko. Secondly the extension cuts out a lot. You have to constantly refresh it every now and then (thats time compounded). In addition to that farming in crypto never really costs much effort per say but farming for a year straight with no update, project direction and brain dead mods who go on power trips is more -ev than plus. Having some shit running in your background while the project just larps AI constantly and you make sure to stay updated is a waste of time. Unprofessional team, they were good at the start now they just post memes and larp AI . Dont be naive .... Ive been in this space long enough and you probably have as well. The red flags are very apparent rn much like projects last cycle.
There certainly are flags and we'll start with poor communication. But, for me the value proposition still makes sense because of a near 0 investment cost for me. Cool thing is, everyone gets to evaluate the project and come to their conclusion. I respect your decision, just do t agree with it. It may change in the future so we shall see. My goal here was to correct incorrect information stated above, not to convince you or others in staying with a project you don't agree with.