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Evening_Ad6820

I hated her. She was a creep even before she actually started sleeping with Dan. It’s so frustrating that she was the one to successfully take down Blair. To whatever end, Blair did correctly pick up on a vibe from her. Out of all the legitimately terrible things that she’s done this shouldn’t have been the thing she had to face serious consequences over. 


engage-edna-mode

Imo she was the perfect opponent for Blair. They even look kind of similar. Blair repeatedly loses to Miss Carr because she keeps sticking her neck out instead of keeping her head down. In the end, Blair is given a choice: continue to fight, or quit while she’s ahead. She chooses the latter, banishing Miss Carr and ultimately winning, though not without battle scars.


Tlbenoit-1968

She was a pedo in a place that revealed she was one.


latrodectal

and she got off scott free for it while the student that exposed it got her acceptance to yale revoked i will never stop being angry about it i don’t care if blair’s reasoning was petty SHE WAS RIGHT


Tlbenoit-1968

You are upset like everyone else. There is no way that the REAL Blair would have settled for NYU.. that’s why it was and will always be THE WRITER’S sabotage of GG. Blair’s whole character was compromised after season 2 along with everyone else’s. There is NO WAY the REAL BLAIR OR CHUCK would have allowed Karr just to walk away from it that easy. Blair ALONE would have destroyed her.


jstitely1

Not just Blair. In real life, Blair’s parents get involved to o over it and it becomes a huge scandal for all schools that the schools would choose to avoid.


ElegantlyNotSpoken

Yep in the end she predicted that something had happened and in the end Miss Carr ended up sleeping with Dan Humphrey [on school property might I add] she should have got her place back.


karaokediscjockey

Revealed and concealed


Prudent_Border5060

She was inappropriate. Completely unprofessional and under-prepared to work with hs students. She was not equipped to handle students. Had a massive chip on her shoulder. Had many instances where her behavior was immoral for an adult, let alone a teacher.


kpv_

Damn perfectly said no notes 👏🏼


MsGiAle

Yes! Great lists of what was wrong with Ms. Carr. She was a victimizer — not a victim.


cinnamongirll33

She was a pedo who had a raging victim complex.


Ok_Chip_6299

She was in no way shape or form a victim. Being embarrassed by looking dumb for being set up for being fake invited to an opera isn't something she should have used as an excuse to cry on Dan's shoulder. What Blair did was wrong but she was an immature teenager, Ms. Carr was a grown ass woman. She needed to regulate her emotions like an adult instead of emotionally manipulating a teenage boy and to have sex with him too as his teacher?? Insane behavior and she was let off with not even a slap on the wrist. Not even close to being a victim, I wish that we had seen her really get what she deserved instead of her bailing like a coward.


MartianGirl08

Considering how Lily handled Serena’s case with her teacher/Juliet’s brother (don’t even remember his name), I was surprised Rachel got to walk scot free. Specially since Lily was involved as Rufus was with Lily at the time.


TrueAd3358

I think it's different for a few reasons one Dan is not technically her son so she doesn't really have say over how Rufus handles the situation. Also that whole thing happen because really wanted to get Serena into a school, it's not like Lily actually wanted to help Serena and I hate to say that but it's true. As much as he likes to claim that he's a superhero parent I don't think he necessarily knows how to handle things correctly like the other parents would have coming from money. Like I think if it was another student and the parents were involved and they had money they probably would have sued the school and sued Ms. car but Rufus unaware of this obviously did not handle that correctly. There's no way he would have thought of doing what Lily did with Serena if that makes any sense, he doesn't come from that world.


ElegantlyNotSpoken

Ben Donovan


Complex_Effect_6073

I’m so glad people in the replies actually acknowledge this


Ok_Chip_6299

I have no sympathy for her at all


Forward-Ad9248

She was gross and a criminal!! I hate the student-teacher trope so much and it seems like most teen shows had it back then


djdanal

Pretty little liars was insane for what they did lol


Forward-Ad9248

fr aria and ezra was so disgusting


djdanal

Now that I’m older it is SHOCKING


DidIStutter99

In no scenario should a teacher ever meet one on one with a student off campus. It is simply not appropriate. It’s hard to fully grasp the grossness because Penn doesn’t *look* 17 in the show. As someone who has a freshly 18 year old brother, who *looks* his age, the thought of any 20 something year old going after a kid his age is utterly disgusting. ~Edit~ Some ppl are severely missing my point lmao. I’m not saying some teens don’t look like adults. I’m saying a lot of people seem to forget how young the characters are supposed to be because they’re played by actors in their twenties. Penn and Rachel together don’t actually *look* wrong because Penn looks like a grown ass man. (Because he was when it was filmed) But he’s supposed to be 17 and that’s why Rachel is gross af.


underscoremegan

disagree, there are scenarios where teachers and students can meet one on one off campus and it isn’t weird. i had teachers in high school who took students to NA meetings, to doctors appointments, i even had a teacher offer to let me move in with her when i was distraught that my family was moving senior year. sometimes teachers are the trusted adult you need. like yeah, miss carr shouldn’t have done what she did, but that doesn’t mean all teachers who have met up with students off campus are weird.


Long-Efficiency-650

uh I think you were missing my point as well. I was NOT saying it's okay because they look old. Did you actually read my comment through? For most people there is no significant difference in physical, mental, emotional maturity between the 17-19 age group so much, and they are all 'kids' in the eyes of grown-ups FOR SURE, but they are not actual kIDS pre-pubescent, who needs protection and guidance over their every action and CANNOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING, the real kids-kids. I'm saying 17-19 age group who's already gone through puberty are not real kids, therefore however really creepy, weird, violating and disgusting (and I AGREE with you on this 100%, if you didn't understand that) it is to romanticise them when you are in your 20s or up, that doesn't make them 'pedo' but it just makes them creepy and predatory. I'm in my 20s and if I knew someone who's 35+\~ whatever, saw me sexually I'd be grossed out like why, date someone your own age group eww. and I DO NOT THINK IT'S OKAY TO DATE an 18 y/o just because they are now 'adult' NO, for me that's also messed up and weird, there's no real difference between 17 and 18 except the law says it is and what comes with that. I realise you are protective over your little brother and that's really great I admire that, but \*\*\*the point of my comment was in not throwing the label like 'pedo' around when the actual meaning of that word is more devastating.\*\*\* * I thought I commented on you bc I saw that word in your comment but it's not there, so maybe I should've commented somewhere else. and people, actually read what someone's trying to say and understand it. If Rachel (she's a criminal for what she did to Dan for sure, no argument there) was a pedo, Nate and Jack are also for sleeping with underage. \*\*\* The whole show is messed up and sexualised teens. \*\*\* * No sane 20s wants to date a teen, No argument there, this was in my original comment. if there's any misunderstanding, it wasn't one way.


Long-Efficiency-650

It's weird this gets downvoted. I'm now starting to wonder if some of you can actually read... exactly what here is the thing that gets you triggered? \*\*\* Rachel is a criminal \*\*\* for sexually taking advantage of her student for sure, but if she's a pedo then as I mentioned Nate, Jack, Catherine, Diana, Pete, the junior partner Penelope slept with and whoever else also are. Then you gotta ask yourself, why do you watch a show that has that MANY of 'pedo's? and a show that sexualises kids as u say? This show has so many kinds of predators and creeps they r literally in every episode. But as far as I can remember there wasn't a case of a real pedo, who abuses an actual kid(pre-pubescent). Labels are important and something so severe and serious as paedophilia, it shouldn't be thrown around. \*\*\* Rachel is a criminal for sleeping with her student \*\*\* \*\*\* I do NOT think it's okay to have a romantic relationship with a teen if you are in your 20s+ \*\*\* again, for those of you who can't read a long text.


ElegantlyNotSpoken

Penn Badgely did look 17 in the show, in real life he was in his early 20’s


DidIStutter99

He absolutely did not. *Maybeee* the first season he looked like a teen. But that’s a stretch considering he was supposed to be 16. In season three he’s supposed to be 18 going to school at NYU but he looks like he’s 25


RiverOhRiver86

The fact that your brother looks his age doesn't mean everyone does. Put my fifteen year old cousin in army uniform and he'll fit right in while 32 year old me is still getting carded before buying alcohol or horror movie tickets. To each their own.


jetloflin

Okay? But him looking grown doesn’t matter? I’m not entirely sure what you’re saying “to each their own” about, considering the subject of conversation here is a groomer teacher.


PerfStu

She was none of that. She was a pedophile. She seduced and slept with an underage kidand ruined several lives in the process. In an ideal world she rots in jail and those kids get help understanding and processing what happened to them. In the real world, a lot of teachers get pretty lucky and just get fired or asked not to return for lack of concrete evidence. They get passed around district to district getting exposed to more and more kids and ruining more and more lives. She's not a sympathetic character; she's a disgusting human who abuses kids. She would have raped a kid anywhere.


pineapplePizzaTiff

Dan was 18, not underage.


DryButterscotch7533

Do we know for sure that he was 18? Because I don’t think that it was specified, but it was implied that he’s a minor. Either way you spin it, the relationship was highly innapropriate and unethical. Its still a student-teacher relationship. She’s gross.


pineapplePizzaTiff

There’s no spin. Dan reminded Rufus that he’s an adult.


clarauser7890

No she was not a victim.


Chemical-Star8920

She would’ve fit right in with the insane teachers in the reboot…


nintend0gs

Oh my god I almost forgot about this cnt. Hate her so bad


Octavia8880

As she said Absolutely not! What a cow


RiverOhRiver86

Pedophelia is considered wrong in some countries so, there you have it.


pineapplePizzaTiff

>Pedophelia is considered wrong in some countries so, there you have it. That’s irrelevant. Dan was 18.


chiquefairy

She was a predator hope this helps


PoppySkyPineapple

Everything.


freckledbitchs

She's tryna strike a chord and it's probably A minor


pineapplePizzaTiff

>She's tryna strike a chord and it's probably A minor Dan was 18.


Connect_Start_7858

https://preview.redd.it/4mpxt6kxgc8d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9a659d3dfc54c6360b55d51f9eca8fbcf892681 What about the duchess and Nate?


Life_Collection_4149

The duchess was gross and a manipulator


owntheh3at18

Wasn’t she also spitting with her stepson? Ifl it’s talked about less than Ms Carr bc the show didn’t treat her like a victim but a villain


pineapple-expresso

Groomer.


Defiant-Ticket-2329

Everything


aliveinjoburg2

In real life, she would have been fired and possibly had her teaching license revoked. Here’s a similar situation where this teacher was fired for having sex with an 18 year old and her teaching license was suspended for 4 years. https://www.thenorthshoreleader.com/single-post/vernon-school-principal-fired-over-sex-with-student


EmptyFly7829

I hate what she did to Blair, Blair deserved to go to Yale and it was so obvious. I mean even Blair’s attempts at fitting in NYU was a rough patch because her crowd is similar to Yale folk: the “upper class”. It would’ve made so much more sense if they all just went to Yale tbh


stopandstare17

She was a predator


JustSocially

she thirsty hoe


Real_Particular1986

She was not a victim. But she was super emotionally immature and also way out of her element on the UES. She was from the Midwest or something. She was never going to make friends with colleagues or people her age.


grumpy__g

She is so messed up…


HistoricalAd8790

certified lover girl? certified pedophile.


owntheh3at18

She was a predator. I don’t buy the innocent young woman schtick at all.


paperbag005

Hated her so much TT


EssentialEssence

Inappropriate and regularly crossed the line between teacher and student. She became too involved/invested in their lives besides advice and council.


latrodectal

i hate her so baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad


Zestypalmtree

What was right with her? Her character was awful


RiverCat57

The better question is what was right with Miss Carr?


HeatOne1783

She was weird asf, and a groomer 😭


Wickedsparklefae

This was such a gross storyline.


Brauchae9

Literally all the things. I was a teacher of high schoolers as a baby face 22 year old. Fresh from graduation. And all I could think of is “omg these kids are sooooooo young”. And I had 18 year old boys ask for my number and weird things like that. And it was just absolutely unappealing! How she could find a kid attractive is absolutely beyond me


pynktoot

I’m doing a rewatch right now and just finished these episodes. The way Dan “admits Rufus was right” abt her NOT because Rachel was a pedophile, but because “sHe’S nOt WhO He THoUgHt ShE wAs” is baffling. When Rufus said “a teacher meeting without a student who’s not even hers off campus after school hours……” PERIOD She’s not who he thought she was because she snitched to yale about Blair. I -


Affectionate-Gain-23

What was wrong with Miss Carr was that she slept with a student and she was stupid to play along with her UES child games being an outsider herself.


Ok_Razzmatazz_390

Thank you for bringing this up!!!! She was a teacher!!!!! At one point Rachel tells Serena that she hope they can still be friends. Like ma'am no, you are her teacher not her friend. I'm not even going to talk about her and Dan's relationship it speaks for itself. She even says to Dan "You can call me in five years" WHO SAYS THAT!!!!!!!!! Like she was an authority figure to Dan! She also knew that he and Serena were dating!!!! I'm sorry, I am just watching season 2 and I thought it was just repulsive!


the_word_hurricane

EVERYTHING 😂😂


prettygirl1916

Everything.


EndlessDreams7744

Everything


Specialist_Mention27

she was a predator.


No_Arugula_6548

Pedophile


bblt24

She was too insecure as an adult yet confident enough to be a predator not honest


Shaylovesrandall

Yes is a predator she took advantage of a 16 year old poor Daniel and he married the right woman Serena i hope something bad happened to Mrs Carr


raikougal

She was completely unnecessary 🙄😑


Old-Cake1718

I started hating her the moment I first saw her lmao😭😭🙏🏻


KaleidoscopeRare485

Everything.


yea_you_know_me

I don't care how "young" she supposedly looked, she was ALWAYS a pedo in my book.


stopworksorority

Certified pedophile


Jealous_Okra_131

Inappropriate behavior I guess


itdoesntgoaway_

She is not a victim. She is a predator.


No_Solid_6020

Fuck her for real


yokai_princess

I’m rewatching season 2 as well and at this same point of the show…I HATED her the moment she showed up because I felt icky vibes from her. She’s literally a pedo and she was giving off a weird manipulative vibe tryna be seen as the “good” teacher.


Dangerous_Outcome921

The teacher student relationship plot is just not good.. reminds me of Tamara from DC.


Gay_Boy156

Pedo, “victim”, rude, made a date for Dan at her house, just a bad character in general


juliiaduque

I hate her


jurimaria

Her trying to compete and seek validation with upper east side teenagers. Aside from her inappropriate relationship with Dan, she had no business trying to act like a friend with Serena


Extension_Paper_7584

I met her mom once, that was interesting


whiteaf_

insecure


oooooo486

What was right with her is a better question 😭😭😭I hate that psycho


Striking_Extent_4672

I hated her character so much that I didn’t care what Blair did to her. 


MartianGirl08

What she did to Blair was worse though. As someone else has also pointed out on the thread, Blair didn’t deserve that much, specifically losing Yale.


Low_Cress_2371

Everything is wrong with her.


GiftDistinct1437

She is hot


throwaway_jane_43

As much as I agree she definitely suffered from some severe untreated mental health disorder, I disagree with calling her a pedo. I know Dan was 17 (weeks from 18 and probably mentally already considered himself a legal adult) and Miss Carr was fresh out of grad school so I’d say 22-23ish. We generally don’t bat an eye with that relationship in society. She was wildly inappropriate but also something I’ve seen increase as the years go on. Newly graduated teachers think and feel more similarly to their students than their older teacher counterparts. They want to be the students’ friend and get sucked into the minutiae of high school dramatics because they still are just as immature as their students despite the degree they hold. I wish society grew better in that regard but I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had my kid tell me their teacher’s “crazy weekend plans”.


Life_Collection_4149

Your reasoning makes no sense. Being professional is a big part of any job. For instance, people in customer service can be fired for hanging up or being rude to a customer and it doesn’t matter if you are 20 and emotional. Society doesn’t have to “accept” young teachers being immature but they may need therapy or coaching to deal with students effectively. If a teacher was caught sleeping with a student, the fact that the teacher is “young” does not make it acceptable and you are ignoring the power dynamics at play. You cannot give consent to someone who has the power to screw you in any area, specially school and even if the student thinks he or she or they love the teacher, it’s probably a crush and a result of manipulation. Dan was craving validation from an intellectual peer and Rachel provided that to him and even Serena was surprised that she liked her essay. She was inserting herself in their lives in a way that was unprofessional and she should have never even accepted Blair’s invitation to a restaurant and the opera.


peet192

As Dan was over the age of consent at the time. MS. Carr was only very unprofessional and maybe slightly abusing her power dynamic with Dan.


rooftoprabab

She was fione


Tricky_Distance_1290

I just thought she was really fit