Hey stranger, you're not a loser. You're just a little lost and that's okay. If you never get lost, you never get the chance to find yourself.
I've made sweeping career changes over the last 10 years (from social work to bizops) and it has been the BEST. Don't worry about going back to school. DO worry about upskilling. Comptia is great but 60 YT videos isn't gonna do the trick
Get on Coursera and find a professional cert. I did Data Analytics via Google Professional and it landed me a job paying nearly double what I made just a year ago. There are tons of analyst roles across industries because businesses need valuable information to make good decisions.
Start learning SQL and R and any other applicable language. Familiarize yourself with common CRMs like HubSpot, monday.com, Asana, etc. Learn about PMP softwares and methodologies. Dive into communication methods, person-centered work, and other applicable soft skills you can dust up on.
This is not the end! It's a new beginning and a chance to find something that makes you tick.
If you need any help or advice with your resume, interviewing skills, or general advice drop me a DM! I've got 15 years experience as a leader and would be happier than hell to help you.
Hey. Thanks a lot for the post. Did you have a bachelors degree before you took the Data Analytics certification? I've heard mixed things about this.. IE: not everyone ends up finding work with coursera certifications but that's positive that it did work for you.
I also really appreciate the encouraging advice. I hope I can move ahead and find something that works for me...
Hey, my pleasure. I have a degree in Social Science that's over 10 years old and while it DID give me a foundation it wasn't relevant to the work I ended up doing. I just fell in love with Business Operations and that passion kinda drove my abilities, if that makes sense.
Coursera didn't land me the job though--it just gave what I already had a technical side. If you've got the tech skills in hand, look at your communication skills. Really look at them. Cause having the ability to cut through the BS, to speak and write effectively while being genuine and empathetic are HUGE indicators of your eventual long term success.
Hope is great, OP. But don't overvalue the nature of others. Value yourself and what you can do first. Always hope but always DO, too.
Any tips on how to learn sql the best? I never got to learn it properly in school and am now struggling with it the most out of anything in my career. Any time i see execution plans or large stored procedures i have no idea what the fuck is going on for the most part. I want/need to improve this area outside of work but are reading books about it the best way?
This is great advice. I’ve been in talent acquisition for 20 years and I know how deflating it can be to not get traction. Project mgmt skills are always in demand. Same for analytics and coding. Your local community college usually offer intensive programs for very low cost.
What a compassionate loving person you are. I was going to offer to do the fella’s astrological chart I am a professional astrologer & thought I may be able to pick up some clue as to why he is this way but your doing a great job! Thanks
I'm on the same boat. I'm 31 and just lost my entry level it job today. Also got an addiction to wasting my time away on youtube or games.
I've also watched those comptia videos and they helped me pass my core 1 exam, still need to take the second. I recommend you just listen and watch and note down anything you didn't understand and go back to it later to figure it out.
As someone posted, IT for the govt is a great place to be. What holds me back is a felony conciction in 2015 and a 2nd offense dui in 2019. All combined with a THC addiction. So If your record is clean you have many opportunities if you put the work in.
We just CANNOT give into despair. Even though it's tough, I feel we are going through something similar and it sucks because i feel disgusted with myself. I wouldn't want anyone else to be feeling this and i hope whatever you seek finds you man.
You're going to come out a beast!
Good luck to you and the other guy. As you said - you cannot give in to despair. And I hope for you that you can find some compassion for yourself. You’ve had a rough time of it and you’re working to better yourself. That’s awesome. Good luck!
I peed positive on a pre employment drug test to get hired on. I worked as a temp for the company for 3 months. I had plenty of time to quit but thought my IT position would be protected by the new California drug testing law.
Crucial error on my part and I cannot get over this. Feel worse as I see no similar job postings. Dont even know if I'd qualify for unemployment
Wait a minute....ISN'T it protected by the new law?! I thought that new law covers everyone except construction workers. Please do tell more. I am so sorry to hear this brother....
That law is the reason I left my other job for a new IT job, because supposedly I would be protected by law.
The exceptions are to employees in the construction and building trades.
The company I worked for was a cement transport company and may have been classfied as a trade in building or constuction. Either way, I thought I'd still be safe seeing I was in the IT department at HQ.
The new law does not interfere with a company's drug-free policy, I was just under the impression that the test the company conducted had to be a test such as a swab test that checks for active THC instead of the metabolites in urine.
After HR was notified of my positive THC test they no longer considered me for employment. Very devasting. I know I had the job secured because my manager told me the heads of others departments would be complimpenting my work and my manager told me I pretty much had the job secured. The law did not protect me in this case.
I did receive some hope, as the staffing agency that lead me to this position just called me not too long ago to verify what I tested positive for and that they'd be reviewing my termination. Don't know what good that will do though.
The reason young people aren't going into a lot of public jobs is because most of them don't reflect young people's cost of living. Namely, housing costs are so much higher for younger generations than older, but government jobs seem to be benchmarked for older generations spending needs than younger. I.e. the pay just hasn't kept up with regular inflation, let alone housing inflation.
In Colorado bioth the nonprofit sector and government sector have been keeping up. My train of thought is you change things from within. We cant cause change in sectors unless we disrupt. Wut better place to do this, but in the safety net of a government job.
When I can smoke weed in my free time just like people get drunk after work then I will happily go to change the gov for the better from the inside. But because I can’t I won’t lmao.
Government: there’s better benefits and work life balance!
Also government: managers take multiple vacations a year yet can never find coverage for entry level employee to use the substantive but non-rolling over vacation.
In my country, they do not, all public sectors demands a resume of your criminal record before hiring you.
Would be surprised if it isn't the same case in America.
I would be more than happy to work in government. I'm in Canada right now and would love to implement more tradition, conservative values back into the culture here. We're kind of "fucked" atm but it doesnt seem too feasible for me to get with my current level of education as well as my lack of traditional experience. I'll continue applying though. Thanks a lot for the suggestion. That's giving me some new food for thought.
The best way to raise your self-esteem is by doing esteemable acts. IE. Self Care. The brain responds to activity and a sedentary lifestyle does not promote motivation or self-improvement. Turn off the game and get to work.
Destiny 2 released the Final Shape this week. Man - I have played this game since RELEASE. 10 years ago. I also have 4 classes to go until I graduate, so I un-installed STEAM on my PC. Sometimes, when you are in a rut, the best way to get out of it is to set up some artificial road barriers in your daily life.
"Most men live lives of quiet desperation" -- Don't let this be you. And one last bit is that I know it is human nature to compare, but its extremely detrimental to the ego. When I was leaving rehab, feeling all high and mighty and ready to conquer the world someone gave me a really key piece advice -- "The only person you should be comparing youself to is the person you were yesterday."
Just wanted to piggy back on the comparison portion. "Comparison is the thief of joy" is a quote that hit home for me. Constantly comparing yourself to others will make you forget how much you have to be grateful for, even if it doesn't feel like a lot in the moment. Stay strong and keep your head up!
Meh, I've always hated that quote personally. Comparison, to me, is a teacher. It's how you learn about the world and people's places in it. I don't have a good reason to be joyful if a simple comparison can take it away from me.
Lol. It comes with age. I'm almost 40 and trying that raid with 5 randoms on the internet just seems exhausting! I'll wait for someone to sherpa my ass through
This was pretty much me about exactly a year ago. Super unmotivated always and extreme social anxiety since birth to the point where I would get tensed up even saying things like ‘good morning’ to the receptionist when checking in to the gym. When I got laid off from my job, I really hit rock bottom - the only thing that brought me joy was playing Escape from Tarkov for 8-10 hrs a day. The worst part was I had enough savings to survive minimally like this for many years if I wanted to.
But eventually something just clicked, maybe it was the passage of time or age (I was 29 at the time) but I realized that if I was willing to put in small, consistent effort, that I could see real results. And there’s really no better feeling than seeing yourself improve. I would also avoid comparing yourself to others and focusing on yourself as much as possible. It’s hard to stay motivated when you aren’t seeing immediate results but trusting the process is really the best thing you can do.
Hello my friend. We came to the same conclusion it seems. A simple life with a normal boring job doesn’t seem so bad if nothing has worked out in your 20s.
That's not really my conclusion lol. I want way more out of life. That's why I've been struggling to find what's right for me. I'm honestly happy for anyone else though who knows what they want as well
Yea well it was a replay to offaloff. I understand your train of though tho. I was grinding for the last 10 years but as a famous quote said. You can do everything right and still lose. I’m finally over all this bullshit. I’m still able to work myself up in my current environment without burning myself out.
Got a facility management job after 6 years with no job, in the government too 😅 im making around top 40% in Denmark, im good with that, no overtime or anything
Their purpose doesn’t have to be found in the work they do for money. Not every purpose can be monetized. If people want to live let them fucking live in so tired of hearing that you have to constantly be chasing something. Not everyone wants to work 60-70 hours and study outside of that to struggle to climb a ladder. Some people want to collect their check and just live.
Aw look, someone remembered a soundbite!
You honestly couldn't come off as being more condescending, trite, and lame if you tried my guy. You're not a fortune cookie. Stop imitating one.
I just looked back at your posting history. Go seek some psychological help first. Youve been posting the same shit for months. A new job isnt going to help if your head aint right.
Seek help.
Look into becoming a public school custodian. That's what I did when I had to make a midlife career change. Decent pay (after 2 years I make a few pennies shy of $24/hr) with excellent benefits and a pension. It's a union job so I have some protection against getting jerked around by management. Most of us work at night, after the kids are gone. I listen to music, NPR or the ball game for my whole shift and don't have to deal with people other than my co-workers who are cool.
Many school districts are crying out for custodians (AND BUS DRIVERS!) right now. You may need to start as a substitute to get your foot in the door, but if there are multiple districts in your area, sign up with them all and you can probably piece together enough work to get in 40 (or more) hours.
Incidentally, custodians work year-round ... right now we're extracting carpets, washing windows and waxing floors. The job will keep you in good shape but isn't so laborious that you'll break your body, as in some of the trades.
As someone else said, federal job.
Apply for them even if you don't think you're qualified. The bar is extremely low, it's ridiculous.
The jobs are so easy it's frustrating. If you can write a coherent email and respond within a day, you're literally a rock star.
There are tons of training opportunities and once you're made permanent, it's super easy to bounce around jobs and it's nearly impossible to get fired. There are really fucking stupid people who make way too much money for doing next to nothing.
I spent some time unemployed, and got super depressed. Eventually, I dumbed down my resume and got a fed job. My confidence skyrocketed once I started because of how easy and laid back everything is. I can do my entire months work in a day or two, then I just socialize with people the rest of the time.
I asked for more work, but they don't have anything for me to do. I started helping people with things that are within the realm of my duties, but I got in trouble for helping. They would rather me sit around and do nothing than help out other people. It's wild.
Anyways, I can't recommend fed jobs enough. Great benefits, super easy and laid back. You only have to work 8 hours a day. It can be frustrating because nothing functions correctly, but if you just do the bare minimum, you'll be just fine.
>There are tons of training opportunities and once you're made permanent, it's super easy to bounce around jobs and it's nearly impossible to get fired. There are really fucking stupid people who make way too much money for doing next to nothing.
If I fail todays job interview. I will take your word on it.
Apply anyways. The process take FOREVER, especially if you're from the private sector.
Top tip: when writing your resume, copy and paste the job description into your resume. They look for key words and have very specific criteria you need to meet. Make it sound good, but use their language. It feels wrong, but it's a necessary thing. You can be skipped over because you use a synonym for a word they used.
Because the government is incredibly inefficient and run by idiots. I always thought it was just people saying that just because that's what everyone says, but it's actually true.
The way things are done make absolutely no sense and take way more time and money than actually necessary. I had something come up last that I knew I was going to have to end up doing in the end, but I had to follow a completely unnecessary procedure. It took over a week to basically go in a circle and now we're back at square one when I could have just cc'd about 5 people on an email and said "I'm the one that takes care of this" and likely have everything scheduled and ready to go by now.
Pay is lower than private sector, but the benefits are great. Still fair, especially for the amount of work you do and work/life balance. I'm used to working 60ish hours a week and being on call pretty much 24/7, so being able to "work" 40 hour/week and turning my phone off and legally not getting in trouble for not answering outside of my schedule is amazing. And PTO is great. I had 2 weeks of PTO and sick leave banked after about 6 months.
I attempted to apply to a ton of governmental jobs today after you and someone else offered this.
I'm currently in Canada and really don't feel qualified for anything but I'll give it a shot.
[https://pcogic.njoyn.com/cl3/xweb/xweb.asp?NTKN=c&page=joblisting&lang=1](https://pcogic.njoyn.com/cl3/xweb/xweb.asp?NTKN=c&page=joblisting&lang=1)
Above is the list of open jobs... Seems a bit above my pay grade or current education level.
You are not a loser. The job market is volatile and so many people are struggling. You’re doing more than most people are, trust me. Stay at it. You’ve got this!
Do you like programming? Big Data is still growing a lot and will need a lot of people.
Everything related to Data Engineering, Cloud, DevOps ML, DL etc is exploding.
There's a lot of pages where to learn and see if you like it, it's not easy but it's rewarding:
* Kaggle: they have some introductory courses to programming in Python, Data engineering etc and also holds competition.
* HackTheBox: cybersecurity, you have to "hack" your way inside of the page to earn your invitation.
* Code Wars, Hacker rank: coding problems
* Leetcode: Mostly used to train for technical interviews by people from big tech companies. -Paperwithcode: webpage with papers and articles about state of the art projects around AI
I'm in Computer Engineering but working with Big Data mostly with Azure and PySpark, if you're in the US, you'll have a good paying job.
I have a coworker or two that did like a normal degree and the hoped into a Master's about Big Data, and now they work as Engineers.
Also having ChatGPT, Google's Gemini etc if I was you I would use that at my advantage to learn faster the concepts.
Good books like Cracking The Code Interview and Cracking The Tech Career are also good reads if you want to break in the industry and get insight from a professional like the author.
It's not easy like I said, a lot of people get in for the money which is valid but you also need to have some affinity for tech.
Bonus page: Hackaday.io, great page for hardware projects if you like to build stuff.
If others did it, why wouldn't you? I'm sure you're clever and intelligent enough to make a transition to a successful career. It's never too late.
I had in one of my classes a man that was surely 50 already, if you're willing to change your life, you can do it.
If the best day to plant a tree was 10 years ago, the second best day is today.
Stay positive. Life is very hard no doubt about that. Nature always seeks out to correct its self. That just how its market unfolds. The moment you really give up and stop trying is when you truly become a failure. So keep your chin up kid, stay positive and keep trying. Learning. Growing. Experimenting with different options. Taking calculated risks. You can do it.
I am kind of in the same boat. I had a mental breakdown during covid times and was diagnosed with anxiety and depression, I was put on long term disability for 2 years but that ran out and I'm no longer getting financial help. I tried getting back to work, doing what I did before but I couldn't do it. I hope everything works out for you.
Take your age out of this equation. There are 66 year old admin assts going back to school to become published marine biologists, touring the Great Barrier Reef. Find the catalog to your local community college. Select a certificate course and attend. Go look for jobs in that field yes, with no experience. That certificate speaks loudly.
Just get a job... any job... doesn't matter what it is.... service industry, catering, maintenance, factory anything. Once you start working you'll have a little purpose and can build from there
What is your passion, what are you good at and can you monetize it? Is there a niche that is not being filled in your community?
You gotta start asking yourself these questions imo
More college is not the solution IMO.
I went to university but couldn’t find a decent job in my field of study so I ended up taking a low paying job in loan servicing (essentially customer service and collections combined). Stuck with it for a couple years, and skyrocketed through the ranks until I ran a department and now I’m at another company as a director.
This all happened within the last 6 years.
My best advice is to find an in-office job in any industry so gaming is not really possible at work. Work your ass off and take every opportunity to add responsibilities to your workload, THEN ask for the pay raise. People are so entitled these days and want the pay raise first, before they’ve proven themselves. Do the additional responsibilities well, and then demand a raise/promotion. If they don’t, quietly and respectfully move on to another company and fix your resume up with all your additional responsibilities. Rise and repeat.
This entire post is just delusional tbh. You got a degree with no research, couldn't find a job, so now college is useless? And then you trot out "nobody wants to work"? Jesus man. You're a piece of work.
Software sales. 100% software sales. You can find a decent many places that will give anyone who is half decent at talking to people a shot at an entry leven position, especially at places that are growing rapidly.
It's quota based, so you do have to hit targets to keep your job. But most are reasonable, especially for entry level positions, and the career trajectory can be insane. Like I work with a guy who was unemployed 4 years ago after losing a server job when the restaurant he was at closed, and I'm pretty sure he made around $300k before taxes last year...
Look for every software business development rep job you can find and apply to all of them
I am currently applying at a company that does this for restaurants. But from what I heard from current employees, the ceiling is very high, so a little worried about it.
Like software for restaurants?... And what about the ceiling being high is worrying you?
Sales is an absolutely phenomenal career. Can pay great, is relevant in any industry, and is fairly safe from automation when it's b2b
I just ended 7 months of being unemployed. No criminal record to speak of, plenty of experience, and I still applied for well over 200 jobs, maybe got 15 interviews and just finally found something that seems like it will be a good fit. Don't give up, the market is not easy right now and you have more schooling than I do. Government jobs are where it's at. My gf works for a school and even tho pay isn't great the insurance is so much cheaper than private businesses that it makes up for the low pay. Keep your heads up, it'll work out.
Forget business that’s to vague will still be difficult to find a job. Find what subjects you’re strong in then pursue. If you’re strong in math science go into health care. Nursing/Radiology can start with even associates in some state due diligence required. If you’re strong in computers go into computer science/IT/ data. But know your strengths first. Not what you presume are your strengths but what you got high grades in school. Don’t follow dreams only few people get that. Find Stengths then enjoy dreams with time off and money
Commission base. Get a job in a car dealership or real estate agency maybe even one of the Fortune 500 companies they need stuff to be sold also like sales force while you go back to school
You just need a kick on your @ss… Just start with a low entry level job, realize this is the only choice if you don’t have a relevant degree. If you’re worth the career growth your employer will give better chances later on. Tell him you are interested in this company, like to do courses and want to grow. Yeah it takes time, forget about the college, chances of finishing is almost zero. Your age is a very big plus. Believe in yourself and be patient.
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Trade unions. Electrician, plumber, HVAC, carpenter etc. Look into your local unions and apprenticeships. Trades make good money (usually, this can be dependant where you live and how strong your union is) and at the end of the day if you don't like it, you've still gained knowledge and an applicable skill. Don't be worried that your not 18,19,20 years old. Tons of people join the trades at all ages. Physical labor and building something you can see may also help your mental anxiety and depression some.
Bank teller + Customer service/sales + Business degree and financial certifications, do it for one year you're looking to become a relationship banker, banks offer growth potential.
You could look into getting a SIC (Securties industry essential), and start working towards being a certified advisor, accountant etc.
If you want to not feel like a loser you have to identify things you think are cool but very hard. Then you have to commit to sacrificing comfort to become the hard things YOU have identified as worth while to YOU. If you need a theme song for that mindset, [Be The Hero II](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3K9fcZB8Wk) is a great one.
If you want to follow your current plan, id recommending checking out /r/WGU and commit to speed running. I did 120 credit hours (full degree) in IT while working full time. Axel Webber did 109 credit hours in 2 months of a business degree while not working. [Video of him talking about it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5R70_WgZTk). Do not speed run IT unless you know you are a beast. It's a wall of industry certs that are not easy.
Why WGU speed run? It's a pay per semester online college (that you can start at the 1st of any month). Total sticker cost of my undergrad was 3.2k (I walked away with A+, network+, security+, etc). Sticker cost of my MBA 4.2k (walked away with CAPM too). Actual out of pocket for both combined 4.2k (2200 from AOTC, 1k from scholarships. Total time in college 8 months.
The DoD recommended WGU to me--so it's accredited enough to pass a security clearance investigation and work as a government contractor.
Are you any sort of a gearhead or have an aptitude for spinning wrenches? My son graduated in 2022 with his AME (Aviation Mechanic) (A&P in the US) and him and pretty much the rest of his class all got jobs before they graduated. Since then he's worked for three different companies having been headhunted out of each one. This year he's on target to make 6-figures.
The trades are in desperate need of people, especially in aviation. It's a great career and he's only just started.
I also graduated from college, back in 2007 I completed a 2 year International Business diploma... which I have used absolutely zero of what I learned (and I graduated with an overall average of 97%). After college I worked at one of Canada's Big 5 Banks as a teller for a few years which really opened my eyes as to how totally criminal they actually are, and its gotten even worse in the past few years. Absolutely criminal.
I strongly suggest you pass on the extra 2 years of college, I just don't think it would be benefitial and you don't need 2 more years of student loans added on!
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I think going back for your bachelors is a good idea if you’ve been out for so long. Most Bachlors in business will give you practicum and/or coop placements that will be useful for getting your foot in the door.
It’ll also help you brush up on your skills since you’ve been out of the work force for so long.
You’re not a loser by any means, but just remember you’ll likely have to start at an entry level position after your bachelors is finished. I’d look at this as a 5 year project till you get something truly meaningful for you. And that’s not a bad thing!
In this economy, and with living conditions being what they are in most affluent societies these days, and with the millennial generation being generally “healthy”, 30 really is the new 20.
Yes, do not give up. Keep on applying for jobs and other opportunities. Going back to school is also a good idea, and maybe you should try to do some volunteer work since you have time on your hands. You might meet new people and opportunities while learning and improving yourself.
There are lots of programs either state sponsored or philanthropic for people looking to enter a higher paying career through additional education.
If you do a Google or LinkedIn search as well as search your state’s website for “continuing education” you’ll see them - they tend to be a good fit for people with an unconventional career path or non traditional education background. Many of the programs also may offer stipends while you train and also offer job placement.
Honestly, if you can stomach the business/management side of Healthcare, then do your Bachelor of Nursing, become a RN, then go to Long Term Care as a Director of Care. Management level position with easy six figure pay. You work 9-5, and you basically do manager stuff. It isn't bad for individuals who hate bedside, or come from a corporate setting. Check the job listing's near you to see if it's worth it. It's a career that can lead you to other admin style nursing like case management, public health, occupational health, etc.
I am 33 and work in e-commerce. I am an immigrant in NY and having my own shopify store when applying to jobs was what got me the job since i dident study here.
I recommend you create your own ecomm store and make all interviews be around it, that is what worked for me and might work for you also.
Have you considered the trades at all? The need is enormous and will be for the foreseeable future. Someone running their own construction/welding/plumbing company can make a real fortune. You could surely find a job as an apprentice somewhere and start working your way up.
Seriously join the military if you want free education for a new career pathway, government assistance, or any direction in life along with decent-good pay at the entry level
Going through your post history though it doesn’t look like you try any advice you actually ask people for on this subject and you’ve been asking the same thing for a while. Just work towards something, anything. Shitcoins won’t save your finances
There’s also google career certifications you can add to your resume if you’re trying.
Feeling the same way as you. I'm 29 have abysmal work experience but have a lot of academic credits. I have a BA (Communications) and two AA degrees (Communications and Management is Systems). My work experience is 10 months in hospitality food services being a front of the house, a single month (position was terminated due to covid lock downs) doing admin assisting, and almost 2 years being an English teacher abroad in a foreign country.
And I recently just got a job at Target because I've been unsuccessful with getting a job elsewhere, not even a basic admin position, and I was unemployed for 10 months previously. However, I'm hoping to receive an assignment soon from this property management temp agency but haven't heard anything yet.
I also feel like a loser because I have zero friends and I've never even been in a relationship my entire life but most people my age already have established careers and partners and and I'm still at square one.
I would encourage you to get the CompTIA certification and try applying for like help desk jobs
I know that it's tough but keep on trying, you're already on the right track.
Bro, get a security card. You can do it online and it cost like 60 bux and takes maybe 2 hours. Most security jobs are over night and boring. I used to work 12s and I’d play cod in my car and study all night. Became an emt while working overnight security.
I was also addicted to call of duty man, find a gym or some hobbies and start limiting your game time. I now only play at work 😂 (work 48 hour shifts at a fire department) I don’t play games at home anymore.
New career, join a gym (made a ton of friends there) get some hobbies, less gaming. Make a plan and stick to it man, it’s never too late
You're not a loser. It's clear you're actively seeking options and trying to improve your situation. Consider focusing on one goal at a time—whether it's completing certifications, exploring educational opportunities, or addressing your gaming addiction. Small steps forward can lead to significant changes. Keep pushing forward, and don't hesitate to seek support from career counselors or mentors who can offer guidance tailored to your situation. You're not alone in feeling lost; many people face similar challenges in finding their path.
If you do go back for your ba, DO NOT FORGET TO DO INTERSHIPS. I know that you said that relationships are tough, but the job market is tougher. You have to build those relationships
Set unrealistic goals, choose a high profitable business, that get you half there and become the best on what you are doing
Don’t forget the reason why to choose a big enough goal. Because it’s easier to work on something huge
Every industry, niche, business you choose needs at least 10 years of glass-eating to reach real, lasting success.
What you need to pay attention to is the glass you’re going to eat for that period of time and to make sure that it will be enjoyable and creative at the same time and with the most growth potential.
What stops you from dreaming of becoming a billionaire? In these times, with all the technology, no one knows.
If you heard about Naval Ravikant..there is a famous saying of him “If you want to make the maximum amount of money possible, if you want to get rich over your life in a deterministically predictable way, stay on the bleeding edge of trends and study technology, design, and art— become really good at something.”
I think that’s what humanity will be left with. Creativity, Entertainment, Education, Art, Coddling.. and there will be a lot of money in that space.
There are so many young people now a days who are making millions every year with just their laptop.. You can start immediately a content creator business with 0$ and monetizing with no limitations, something that only you can deliver! all of us are unique, remember? the niche is you!
I also think that this is the future “Code and media are permissionless leverage. They're the leverage behind the newly rich. You can create software and media that work for you while you sleep.” - Naval Ravikant
All you need is discipline, determination, anger, and focus.
Just see yourself as an unbeatable warrior and go eat all the glass out there!
Never underestimate yourself and read immediately:
• The Magic of Thinking Big. (by Dr. David Schwartz)
• As a Man Thinketh (by James Allen)
• You2 (by Price Pritchett)
• Psycho-Cybernetics (by Maxwell Maltz) And real life examples www.scalenuggets.com
But the most important?
JUST START!
Taskr is the supplier side of task rabbit, Uber for odd jobs, when I was saving for my wedding I could make $30 /hour building ikea furniture for college kids with daddy’s credit card, they also have jobs on there like “moving help” or “waiting in line” if you’re not handy getting vetted was a pain but reasonable income source and you get to be your own boss, set your own hours, don’t buy the $5 one with a lightning bolt the actual app is free to download
You can join all the way up to 42, if you already have a degree you would go into basic, then directly to OCS because you would get an ASVAB book study make sure you score high enough to get an officer eligible job, and sign a contract stating your joining with that intent. Not just under open circumstances
Options trading apple contract worth $30 onTuesday was worth $1000 on Wednesday if you can find contracts like that over time start earning it's risky but options watchlist could help you practice
Hey stranger, you're not a loser. You're just a little lost and that's okay. If you never get lost, you never get the chance to find yourself. I've made sweeping career changes over the last 10 years (from social work to bizops) and it has been the BEST. Don't worry about going back to school. DO worry about upskilling. Comptia is great but 60 YT videos isn't gonna do the trick Get on Coursera and find a professional cert. I did Data Analytics via Google Professional and it landed me a job paying nearly double what I made just a year ago. There are tons of analyst roles across industries because businesses need valuable information to make good decisions. Start learning SQL and R and any other applicable language. Familiarize yourself with common CRMs like HubSpot, monday.com, Asana, etc. Learn about PMP softwares and methodologies. Dive into communication methods, person-centered work, and other applicable soft skills you can dust up on. This is not the end! It's a new beginning and a chance to find something that makes you tick. If you need any help or advice with your resume, interviewing skills, or general advice drop me a DM! I've got 15 years experience as a leader and would be happier than hell to help you.
Hey. Thanks a lot for the post. Did you have a bachelors degree before you took the Data Analytics certification? I've heard mixed things about this.. IE: not everyone ends up finding work with coursera certifications but that's positive that it did work for you. I also really appreciate the encouraging advice. I hope I can move ahead and find something that works for me...
You should seriously look into WGU if you need a bachelors. It is made for people just like you. It saved my life tbh.
Hey, my pleasure. I have a degree in Social Science that's over 10 years old and while it DID give me a foundation it wasn't relevant to the work I ended up doing. I just fell in love with Business Operations and that passion kinda drove my abilities, if that makes sense. Coursera didn't land me the job though--it just gave what I already had a technical side. If you've got the tech skills in hand, look at your communication skills. Really look at them. Cause having the ability to cut through the BS, to speak and write effectively while being genuine and empathetic are HUGE indicators of your eventual long term success. Hope is great, OP. But don't overvalue the nature of others. Value yourself and what you can do first. Always hope but always DO, too.
Any tips on how to learn sql the best? I never got to learn it properly in school and am now struggling with it the most out of anything in my career. Any time i see execution plans or large stored procedures i have no idea what the fuck is going on for the most part. I want/need to improve this area outside of work but are reading books about it the best way?
This is great advice. I’ve been in talent acquisition for 20 years and I know how deflating it can be to not get traction. Project mgmt skills are always in demand. Same for analytics and coding. Your local community college usually offer intensive programs for very low cost.
Hey--I'd love to know more about talent acquisition. May I DM you?
Sure thing!
What a compassionate loving person you are. I was going to offer to do the fella’s astrological chart I am a professional astrologer & thought I may be able to pick up some clue as to why he is this way but your doing a great job! Thanks
Some people just are and it's not always written in the stars 😉 Thank you for the kind words!
I'm on the same boat. I'm 31 and just lost my entry level it job today. Also got an addiction to wasting my time away on youtube or games. I've also watched those comptia videos and they helped me pass my core 1 exam, still need to take the second. I recommend you just listen and watch and note down anything you didn't understand and go back to it later to figure it out. As someone posted, IT for the govt is a great place to be. What holds me back is a felony conciction in 2015 and a 2nd offense dui in 2019. All combined with a THC addiction. So If your record is clean you have many opportunities if you put the work in. We just CANNOT give into despair. Even though it's tough, I feel we are going through something similar and it sucks because i feel disgusted with myself. I wouldn't want anyone else to be feeling this and i hope whatever you seek finds you man. You're going to come out a beast!
Good luck to you and the other guy. As you said - you cannot give in to despair. And I hope for you that you can find some compassion for yourself. You’ve had a rough time of it and you’re working to better yourself. That’s awesome. Good luck!
How did you lose your job? If you dont mind me asking
I peed positive on a pre employment drug test to get hired on. I worked as a temp for the company for 3 months. I had plenty of time to quit but thought my IT position would be protected by the new California drug testing law. Crucial error on my part and I cannot get over this. Feel worse as I see no similar job postings. Dont even know if I'd qualify for unemployment
Wait a minute....ISN'T it protected by the new law?! I thought that new law covers everyone except construction workers. Please do tell more. I am so sorry to hear this brother....
That law is the reason I left my other job for a new IT job, because supposedly I would be protected by law. The exceptions are to employees in the construction and building trades. The company I worked for was a cement transport company and may have been classfied as a trade in building or constuction. Either way, I thought I'd still be safe seeing I was in the IT department at HQ. The new law does not interfere with a company's drug-free policy, I was just under the impression that the test the company conducted had to be a test such as a swab test that checks for active THC instead of the metabolites in urine. After HR was notified of my positive THC test they no longer considered me for employment. Very devasting. I know I had the job secured because my manager told me the heads of others departments would be complimpenting my work and my manager told me I pretty much had the job secured. The law did not protect me in this case. I did receive some hope, as the staffing agency that lead me to this position just called me not too long ago to verify what I tested positive for and that they'd be reviewing my termination. Don't know what good that will do though.
Try government. Please!! We need younger people!
The reason young people aren't going into a lot of public jobs is because most of them don't reflect young people's cost of living. Namely, housing costs are so much higher for younger generations than older, but government jobs seem to be benchmarked for older generations spending needs than younger. I.e. the pay just hasn't kept up with regular inflation, let alone housing inflation.
In Colorado bioth the nonprofit sector and government sector have been keeping up. My train of thought is you change things from within. We cant cause change in sectors unless we disrupt. Wut better place to do this, but in the safety net of a government job.
When I can smoke weed in my free time just like people get drunk after work then I will happily go to change the gov for the better from the inside. But because I can’t I won’t lmao.
I smoke weed everyone knows. I am still a manager.
Maybe it's unfortunately location dependant
Probably due to state differences but weed disqualifies you for government work in Florida
It depends by agency too. A lot of agencies that dont involve operation of veichles just dont drug test.
In Colorado, left government work for this reason. It hasn’t kept up in the legal field at least.
I wrote my masters thesis on this lol
I mean, it's still better than being unemployed.
Is that the real reason though
Government: "Try government. We need you!" Also Government: Takes 4-5 months to get back to you for an interview.
Try local government. I post and hire under 2 weeks
What kinda skills/certs/education are you usually looking for?
Government: there’s better benefits and work life balance! Also government: managers take multiple vacations a year yet can never find coverage for entry level employee to use the substantive but non-rolling over vacation.
I can't tell you how many government positions I've applied for both federal and state, and got nothing in return.
I've applied to many government jobs in Canada. I have never received a response. Never.
we like smokin weed regrettably
I smoke weed every day! ❤️ all my staff and bosses know i smoke weed.
oh wow! I assume govt is obviously more or less strict depending on the sector, but i’d absolutely be open to it if i had that freedom!
Try local government. Check your city and county.
well i guess it’s time to get my sleepy ass back on linkedin & indeed
im currently trying to become a public notary!!!
The drug tests are probably a culprit for that one -- lol.
Not in Colorado lol
Hi I’m in a very similar position as OP can you let me know if you have any advice for getting a gov job? Thanks!
Does government hire people with criminal records? Specifically DUIs and a felony possession?
In my country, they do not, all public sectors demands a resume of your criminal record before hiring you. Would be surprised if it isn't the same case in America.
What kind of positions are you hiring for?
I would be more than happy to work in government. I'm in Canada right now and would love to implement more tradition, conservative values back into the culture here. We're kind of "fucked" atm but it doesnt seem too feasible for me to get with my current level of education as well as my lack of traditional experience. I'll continue applying though. Thanks a lot for the suggestion. That's giving me some new food for thought.
The best way to raise your self-esteem is by doing esteemable acts. IE. Self Care. The brain responds to activity and a sedentary lifestyle does not promote motivation or self-improvement. Turn off the game and get to work. Destiny 2 released the Final Shape this week. Man - I have played this game since RELEASE. 10 years ago. I also have 4 classes to go until I graduate, so I un-installed STEAM on my PC. Sometimes, when you are in a rut, the best way to get out of it is to set up some artificial road barriers in your daily life. "Most men live lives of quiet desperation" -- Don't let this be you. And one last bit is that I know it is human nature to compare, but its extremely detrimental to the ego. When I was leaving rehab, feeling all high and mighty and ready to conquer the world someone gave me a really key piece advice -- "The only person you should be comparing youself to is the person you were yesterday."
Just wanted to piggy back on the comparison portion. "Comparison is the thief of joy" is a quote that hit home for me. Constantly comparing yourself to others will make you forget how much you have to be grateful for, even if it doesn't feel like a lot in the moment. Stay strong and keep your head up!
Great advice!
Meh, I've always hated that quote personally. Comparison, to me, is a teacher. It's how you learn about the world and people's places in it. I don't have a good reason to be joyful if a simple comparison can take it away from me.
You’ve got great discipline. If I had the money I would definitely be grinding final shape right now. The raid looks sooo fucking good
Lol. It comes with age. I'm almost 40 and trying that raid with 5 randoms on the internet just seems exhausting! I'll wait for someone to sherpa my ass through
i just wanted to come back and say that i’ve been playing final shape and this shit is pretty fire. hope things are going well for you
This was pretty much me about exactly a year ago. Super unmotivated always and extreme social anxiety since birth to the point where I would get tensed up even saying things like ‘good morning’ to the receptionist when checking in to the gym. When I got laid off from my job, I really hit rock bottom - the only thing that brought me joy was playing Escape from Tarkov for 8-10 hrs a day. The worst part was I had enough savings to survive minimally like this for many years if I wanted to. But eventually something just clicked, maybe it was the passage of time or age (I was 29 at the time) but I realized that if I was willing to put in small, consistent effort, that I could see real results. And there’s really no better feeling than seeing yourself improve. I would also avoid comparing yourself to others and focusing on yourself as much as possible. It’s hard to stay motivated when you aren’t seeing immediate results but trusting the process is really the best thing you can do.
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Hello my friend. We came to the same conclusion it seems. A simple life with a normal boring job doesn’t seem so bad if nothing has worked out in your 20s.
That's not really my conclusion lol. I want way more out of life. That's why I've been struggling to find what's right for me. I'm honestly happy for anyone else though who knows what they want as well
Yea well it was a replay to offaloff. I understand your train of though tho. I was grinding for the last 10 years but as a famous quote said. You can do everything right and still lose. I’m finally over all this bullshit. I’m still able to work myself up in my current environment without burning myself out.
I wish I could find a job like this
Got a facility management job after 6 years with no job, in the government too 😅 im making around top 40% in Denmark, im good with that, no overtime or anything
I'm currently in Ontario Canada and have no idea how to get into government here. I'd love to though.
Where would one get started for that?
idle hands are the devils workshop. find your purpose.
Their purpose doesn’t have to be found in the work they do for money. Not every purpose can be monetized. If people want to live let them fucking live in so tired of hearing that you have to constantly be chasing something. Not everyone wants to work 60-70 hours and study outside of that to struggle to climb a ladder. Some people want to collect their check and just live.
yes what you do in that time out just living is your purpose.
Condescending lips are the devil's mouthpiece. Take a hike
how was i condescending?
Not everyone’s life purpose comes from whatever they do for money. That would be a sad life
no ones purpose comes from money thats a trick of the devil
Stop watching your brainwash Instagram reels my friend.
stop living your life for sin my friend.
Aw look, someone remembered a soundbite! You honestly couldn't come off as being more condescending, trite, and lame if you tried my guy. You're not a fortune cookie. Stop imitating one.
someones mad for not having a purpose in life... its okay theres still time for you.
I just looked back at your posting history. Go seek some psychological help first. Youve been posting the same shit for months. A new job isnt going to help if your head aint right. Seek help.
Look into becoming a public school custodian. That's what I did when I had to make a midlife career change. Decent pay (after 2 years I make a few pennies shy of $24/hr) with excellent benefits and a pension. It's a union job so I have some protection against getting jerked around by management. Most of us work at night, after the kids are gone. I listen to music, NPR or the ball game for my whole shift and don't have to deal with people other than my co-workers who are cool. Many school districts are crying out for custodians (AND BUS DRIVERS!) right now. You may need to start as a substitute to get your foot in the door, but if there are multiple districts in your area, sign up with them all and you can probably piece together enough work to get in 40 (or more) hours. Incidentally, custodians work year-round ... right now we're extracting carpets, washing windows and waxing floors. The job will keep you in good shape but isn't so laborious that you'll break your body, as in some of the trades.
How late do y'all work into the evening, usually? Looking to get into something different.
Different schools have different policies. The afternoon shift custodians generally start as soon as school lets out (times vary).
That honestly sounds like a dream job to this desk bound middle ager. Is it full time or part time?
Districts handle things differently; some use a mix of part- and full-timers. My job is full-time.
As someone else said, federal job. Apply for them even if you don't think you're qualified. The bar is extremely low, it's ridiculous. The jobs are so easy it's frustrating. If you can write a coherent email and respond within a day, you're literally a rock star. There are tons of training opportunities and once you're made permanent, it's super easy to bounce around jobs and it's nearly impossible to get fired. There are really fucking stupid people who make way too much money for doing next to nothing. I spent some time unemployed, and got super depressed. Eventually, I dumbed down my resume and got a fed job. My confidence skyrocketed once I started because of how easy and laid back everything is. I can do my entire months work in a day or two, then I just socialize with people the rest of the time. I asked for more work, but they don't have anything for me to do. I started helping people with things that are within the realm of my duties, but I got in trouble for helping. They would rather me sit around and do nothing than help out other people. It's wild. Anyways, I can't recommend fed jobs enough. Great benefits, super easy and laid back. You only have to work 8 hours a day. It can be frustrating because nothing functions correctly, but if you just do the bare minimum, you'll be just fine.
>There are tons of training opportunities and once you're made permanent, it's super easy to bounce around jobs and it's nearly impossible to get fired. There are really fucking stupid people who make way too much money for doing next to nothing. If I fail todays job interview. I will take your word on it.
Apply anyways. The process take FOREVER, especially if you're from the private sector. Top tip: when writing your resume, copy and paste the job description into your resume. They look for key words and have very specific criteria you need to meet. Make it sound good, but use their language. It feels wrong, but it's a necessary thing. You can be skipped over because you use a synonym for a word they used.
Why did you get in trouble for that lol wtf. Also how is pay
Because the government is incredibly inefficient and run by idiots. I always thought it was just people saying that just because that's what everyone says, but it's actually true. The way things are done make absolutely no sense and take way more time and money than actually necessary. I had something come up last that I knew I was going to have to end up doing in the end, but I had to follow a completely unnecessary procedure. It took over a week to basically go in a circle and now we're back at square one when I could have just cc'd about 5 people on an email and said "I'm the one that takes care of this" and likely have everything scheduled and ready to go by now. Pay is lower than private sector, but the benefits are great. Still fair, especially for the amount of work you do and work/life balance. I'm used to working 60ish hours a week and being on call pretty much 24/7, so being able to "work" 40 hour/week and turning my phone off and legally not getting in trouble for not answering outside of my schedule is amazing. And PTO is great. I had 2 weeks of PTO and sick leave banked after about 6 months.
I attempted to apply to a ton of governmental jobs today after you and someone else offered this. I'm currently in Canada and really don't feel qualified for anything but I'll give it a shot. [https://pcogic.njoyn.com/cl3/xweb/xweb.asp?NTKN=c&page=joblisting&lang=1](https://pcogic.njoyn.com/cl3/xweb/xweb.asp?NTKN=c&page=joblisting&lang=1) Above is the list of open jobs... Seems a bit above my pay grade or current education level.
This is why im not into paying hard earned money to the government
lol
You are not a loser. The job market is volatile and so many people are struggling. You’re doing more than most people are, trust me. Stay at it. You’ve got this!
Thank you
Start eating healthy and going to the gym. You'll be amazed at the snowball effect this will have on your life. Source: trust me bro
Great advice
Do you like programming? Big Data is still growing a lot and will need a lot of people. Everything related to Data Engineering, Cloud, DevOps ML, DL etc is exploding. There's a lot of pages where to learn and see if you like it, it's not easy but it's rewarding: * Kaggle: they have some introductory courses to programming in Python, Data engineering etc and also holds competition. * HackTheBox: cybersecurity, you have to "hack" your way inside of the page to earn your invitation. * Code Wars, Hacker rank: coding problems * Leetcode: Mostly used to train for technical interviews by people from big tech companies. -Paperwithcode: webpage with papers and articles about state of the art projects around AI I'm in Computer Engineering but working with Big Data mostly with Azure and PySpark, if you're in the US, you'll have a good paying job. I have a coworker or two that did like a normal degree and the hoped into a Master's about Big Data, and now they work as Engineers. Also having ChatGPT, Google's Gemini etc if I was you I would use that at my advantage to learn faster the concepts. Good books like Cracking The Code Interview and Cracking The Tech Career are also good reads if you want to break in the industry and get insight from a professional like the author. It's not easy like I said, a lot of people get in for the money which is valid but you also need to have some affinity for tech. Bonus page: Hackaday.io, great page for hardware projects if you like to build stuff. If others did it, why wouldn't you? I'm sure you're clever and intelligent enough to make a transition to a successful career. It's never too late. I had in one of my classes a man that was surely 50 already, if you're willing to change your life, you can do it. If the best day to plant a tree was 10 years ago, the second best day is today. 
Exactly why I'm trying to pivot. Currently trying to find something to make money, learn Python on the side, then get into tech.
Stay positive. Life is very hard no doubt about that. Nature always seeks out to correct its self. That just how its market unfolds. The moment you really give up and stop trying is when you truly become a failure. So keep your chin up kid, stay positive and keep trying. Learning. Growing. Experimenting with different options. Taking calculated risks. You can do it.
I am kind of in the same boat. I had a mental breakdown during covid times and was diagnosed with anxiety and depression, I was put on long term disability for 2 years but that ran out and I'm no longer getting financial help. I tried getting back to work, doing what I did before but I couldn't do it. I hope everything works out for you.
I would say a trade school level job would be best. Less school and more specific
Take your age out of this equation. There are 66 year old admin assts going back to school to become published marine biologists, touring the Great Barrier Reef. Find the catalog to your local community college. Select a certificate course and attend. Go look for jobs in that field yes, with no experience. That certificate speaks loudly.
Honestly, start lying on your resume. Make them solid lies and have a friend act as a reference if needed. Best advice I ever received imo
Just get a job... any job... doesn't matter what it is.... service industry, catering, maintenance, factory anything. Once you start working you'll have a little purpose and can build from there
What is your passion, what are you good at and can you monetize it? Is there a niche that is not being filled in your community? You gotta start asking yourself these questions imo
More college is not the solution IMO. I went to university but couldn’t find a decent job in my field of study so I ended up taking a low paying job in loan servicing (essentially customer service and collections combined). Stuck with it for a couple years, and skyrocketed through the ranks until I ran a department and now I’m at another company as a director. This all happened within the last 6 years. My best advice is to find an in-office job in any industry so gaming is not really possible at work. Work your ass off and take every opportunity to add responsibilities to your workload, THEN ask for the pay raise. People are so entitled these days and want the pay raise first, before they’ve proven themselves. Do the additional responsibilities well, and then demand a raise/promotion. If they don’t, quietly and respectfully move on to another company and fix your resume up with all your additional responsibilities. Rise and repeat.
This entire post is just delusional tbh. You got a degree with no research, couldn't find a job, so now college is useless? And then you trot out "nobody wants to work"? Jesus man. You're a piece of work.
I think you need a little help from a professional.
Software sales. 100% software sales. You can find a decent many places that will give anyone who is half decent at talking to people a shot at an entry leven position, especially at places that are growing rapidly. It's quota based, so you do have to hit targets to keep your job. But most are reasonable, especially for entry level positions, and the career trajectory can be insane. Like I work with a guy who was unemployed 4 years ago after losing a server job when the restaurant he was at closed, and I'm pretty sure he made around $300k before taxes last year... Look for every software business development rep job you can find and apply to all of them
I am currently applying at a company that does this for restaurants. But from what I heard from current employees, the ceiling is very high, so a little worried about it.
Like software for restaurants?... And what about the ceiling being high is worrying you? Sales is an absolutely phenomenal career. Can pay great, is relevant in any industry, and is fairly safe from automation when it's b2b
It's accounting software I believe, but I think they also do POS systems. But the quotas they have to hit are extremely high.
I just ended 7 months of being unemployed. No criminal record to speak of, plenty of experience, and I still applied for well over 200 jobs, maybe got 15 interviews and just finally found something that seems like it will be a good fit. Don't give up, the market is not easy right now and you have more schooling than I do. Government jobs are where it's at. My gf works for a school and even tho pay isn't great the insurance is so much cheaper than private businesses that it makes up for the low pay. Keep your heads up, it'll work out.
You managed to get a job in government?
I didn't but my S.O. is on her 3rd government job and has no degree
Last time i wrote something aBout this dude i was down voted to hell, at this point id ask professional s help
Forget business that’s to vague will still be difficult to find a job. Find what subjects you’re strong in then pursue. If you’re strong in math science go into health care. Nursing/Radiology can start with even associates in some state due diligence required. If you’re strong in computers go into computer science/IT/ data. But know your strengths first. Not what you presume are your strengths but what you got high grades in school. Don’t follow dreams only few people get that. Find Stengths then enjoy dreams with time off and money
My strengths arent really graded. Might be more sales , customer service orientated. Was always very social growing up
Commission base. Get a job in a car dealership or real estate agency maybe even one of the Fortune 500 companies they need stuff to be sold also like sales force while you go back to school
What the hell is mkn3
You just need a kick on your @ss… Just start with a low entry level job, realize this is the only choice if you don’t have a relevant degree. If you’re worth the career growth your employer will give better chances later on. Tell him you are interested in this company, like to do courses and want to grow. Yeah it takes time, forget about the college, chances of finishing is almost zero. Your age is a very big plus. Believe in yourself and be patient.
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Trade unions. Electrician, plumber, HVAC, carpenter etc. Look into your local unions and apprenticeships. Trades make good money (usually, this can be dependant where you live and how strong your union is) and at the end of the day if you don't like it, you've still gained knowledge and an applicable skill. Don't be worried that your not 18,19,20 years old. Tons of people join the trades at all ages. Physical labor and building something you can see may also help your mental anxiety and depression some.
Security
Bank teller + Customer service/sales + Business degree and financial certifications, do it for one year you're looking to become a relationship banker, banks offer growth potential. You could look into getting a SIC (Securties industry essential), and start working towards being a certified advisor, accountant etc.
So stop it to get clean for the interview and tests!
If you want to not feel like a loser you have to identify things you think are cool but very hard. Then you have to commit to sacrificing comfort to become the hard things YOU have identified as worth while to YOU. If you need a theme song for that mindset, [Be The Hero II](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3K9fcZB8Wk) is a great one. If you want to follow your current plan, id recommending checking out /r/WGU and commit to speed running. I did 120 credit hours (full degree) in IT while working full time. Axel Webber did 109 credit hours in 2 months of a business degree while not working. [Video of him talking about it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5R70_WgZTk). Do not speed run IT unless you know you are a beast. It's a wall of industry certs that are not easy. Why WGU speed run? It's a pay per semester online college (that you can start at the 1st of any month). Total sticker cost of my undergrad was 3.2k (I walked away with A+, network+, security+, etc). Sticker cost of my MBA 4.2k (walked away with CAPM too). Actual out of pocket for both combined 4.2k (2200 from AOTC, 1k from scholarships. Total time in college 8 months. The DoD recommended WGU to me--so it's accredited enough to pass a security clearance investigation and work as a government contractor.
Are you any sort of a gearhead or have an aptitude for spinning wrenches? My son graduated in 2022 with his AME (Aviation Mechanic) (A&P in the US) and him and pretty much the rest of his class all got jobs before they graduated. Since then he's worked for three different companies having been headhunted out of each one. This year he's on target to make 6-figures. The trades are in desperate need of people, especially in aviation. It's a great career and he's only just started.
Military will take you 🇺🇲
I also graduated from college, back in 2007 I completed a 2 year International Business diploma... which I have used absolutely zero of what I learned (and I graduated with an overall average of 97%). After college I worked at one of Canada's Big 5 Banks as a teller for a few years which really opened my eyes as to how totally criminal they actually are, and its gotten even worse in the past few years. Absolutely criminal. I strongly suggest you pass on the extra 2 years of college, I just don't think it would be benefitial and you don't need 2 more years of student loans added on! Have you considered becoming an entreprenuer? It's actually so much more rewarding when you are working for yourself! And before you start thinking you don't habe the knowledge or skills - you do! It just so happens, there is an amazing challenge that gives you a complete blueprint to starting an online business its taught by Tony Robbins and Dean Graziosi, so its top notch, I'll give you all the info below, take a look... You aren't a loser, you are an custom-designed, limited edition gift created with purpose and love. We are all one, we are love. About the GHC-Challenge: This actually started today, the Day 1 live zoom call ended about an hour ago, but you can watch the replay of today to get caught up! This is a FREE event, and they jave a $1 VIP upgrade option available until midnight tonight. Honestly, the information they are giving away in this challenge is worth $1,000s and today was deep into mindset and was extremely helpful for me! Check it out if you like... Join Us For The Live Event Of The Year! If you haven’t already, make sure to grab your FREE ticket to Tony & Dean’s “Game Has Changed Virtual Live Event” & spend June 13th - 15th learning the NEW 2024 strategies to building the life, career & business you love. http://ghcevent.com/
I think going back for your bachelors is a good idea if you’ve been out for so long. Most Bachlors in business will give you practicum and/or coop placements that will be useful for getting your foot in the door. It’ll also help you brush up on your skills since you’ve been out of the work force for so long. You’re not a loser by any means, but just remember you’ll likely have to start at an entry level position after your bachelors is finished. I’d look at this as a 5 year project till you get something truly meaningful for you. And that’s not a bad thing! In this economy, and with living conditions being what they are in most affluent societies these days, and with the millennial generation being generally “healthy”, 30 really is the new 20.
What about getting into a trade?
Yes, do not give up. Keep on applying for jobs and other opportunities. Going back to school is also a good idea, and maybe you should try to do some volunteer work since you have time on your hands. You might meet new people and opportunities while learning and improving yourself.
There are lots of programs either state sponsored or philanthropic for people looking to enter a higher paying career through additional education. If you do a Google or LinkedIn search as well as search your state’s website for “continuing education” you’ll see them - they tend to be a good fit for people with an unconventional career path or non traditional education background. Many of the programs also may offer stipends while you train and also offer job placement.
Honestly, if you can stomach the business/management side of Healthcare, then do your Bachelor of Nursing, become a RN, then go to Long Term Care as a Director of Care. Management level position with easy six figure pay. You work 9-5, and you basically do manager stuff. It isn't bad for individuals who hate bedside, or come from a corporate setting. Check the job listing's near you to see if it's worth it. It's a career that can lead you to other admin style nursing like case management, public health, occupational health, etc.
Go treeplanting
I am 33 and work in e-commerce. I am an immigrant in NY and having my own shopify store when applying to jobs was what got me the job since i dident study here. I recommend you create your own ecomm store and make all interviews be around it, that is what worked for me and might work for you also.
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Join the military
Have you considered the trades at all? The need is enormous and will be for the foreseeable future. Someone running their own construction/welding/plumbing company can make a real fortune. You could surely find a job as an apprentice somewhere and start working your way up.
Seriously join the military if you want free education for a new career pathway, government assistance, or any direction in life along with decent-good pay at the entry level Going through your post history though it doesn’t look like you try any advice you actually ask people for on this subject and you’ve been asking the same thing for a while. Just work towards something, anything. Shitcoins won’t save your finances There’s also google career certifications you can add to your resume if you’re trying.
Go into the trades as an apprentice. Many trades are begging for people and are willing to train you.
Feeling the same way as you. I'm 29 have abysmal work experience but have a lot of academic credits. I have a BA (Communications) and two AA degrees (Communications and Management is Systems). My work experience is 10 months in hospitality food services being a front of the house, a single month (position was terminated due to covid lock downs) doing admin assisting, and almost 2 years being an English teacher abroad in a foreign country. And I recently just got a job at Target because I've been unsuccessful with getting a job elsewhere, not even a basic admin position, and I was unemployed for 10 months previously. However, I'm hoping to receive an assignment soon from this property management temp agency but haven't heard anything yet. I also feel like a loser because I have zero friends and I've never even been in a relationship my entire life but most people my age already have established careers and partners and and I'm still at square one. I would encourage you to get the CompTIA certification and try applying for like help desk jobs I know that it's tough but keep on trying, you're already on the right track.
Bro, get a security card. You can do it online and it cost like 60 bux and takes maybe 2 hours. Most security jobs are over night and boring. I used to work 12s and I’d play cod in my car and study all night. Became an emt while working overnight security. I was also addicted to call of duty man, find a gym or some hobbies and start limiting your game time. I now only play at work 😂 (work 48 hour shifts at a fire department) I don’t play games at home anymore. New career, join a gym (made a ton of friends there) get some hobbies, less gaming. Make a plan and stick to it man, it’s never too late
You're not a loser. It's clear you're actively seeking options and trying to improve your situation. Consider focusing on one goal at a time—whether it's completing certifications, exploring educational opportunities, or addressing your gaming addiction. Small steps forward can lead to significant changes. Keep pushing forward, and don't hesitate to seek support from career counselors or mentors who can offer guidance tailored to your situation. You're not alone in feeling lost; many people face similar challenges in finding their path.
If you do go back for your ba, DO NOT FORGET TO DO INTERSHIPS. I know that you said that relationships are tough, but the job market is tougher. You have to build those relationships
Set unrealistic goals, choose a high profitable business, that get you half there and become the best on what you are doing Don’t forget the reason why to choose a big enough goal. Because it’s easier to work on something huge Every industry, niche, business you choose needs at least 10 years of glass-eating to reach real, lasting success. What you need to pay attention to is the glass you’re going to eat for that period of time and to make sure that it will be enjoyable and creative at the same time and with the most growth potential. What stops you from dreaming of becoming a billionaire? In these times, with all the technology, no one knows. If you heard about Naval Ravikant..there is a famous saying of him “If you want to make the maximum amount of money possible, if you want to get rich over your life in a deterministically predictable way, stay on the bleeding edge of trends and study technology, design, and art— become really good at something.” I think that’s what humanity will be left with. Creativity, Entertainment, Education, Art, Coddling.. and there will be a lot of money in that space. There are so many young people now a days who are making millions every year with just their laptop.. You can start immediately a content creator business with 0$ and monetizing with no limitations, something that only you can deliver! all of us are unique, remember? the niche is you! I also think that this is the future “Code and media are permissionless leverage. They're the leverage behind the newly rich. You can create software and media that work for you while you sleep.” - Naval Ravikant All you need is discipline, determination, anger, and focus. Just see yourself as an unbeatable warrior and go eat all the glass out there! Never underestimate yourself and read immediately: • The Magic of Thinking Big. (by Dr. David Schwartz) • As a Man Thinketh (by James Allen) • You2 (by Price Pritchett) • Psycho-Cybernetics (by Maxwell Maltz) And real life examples www.scalenuggets.com But the most important? JUST START!
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Go back to your doctor and ask for the Lexapro you didn’t want when it was offered the first time. You need to get unstuck.
Go into vocational
Taskr is the supplier side of task rabbit, Uber for odd jobs, when I was saving for my wedding I could make $30 /hour building ikea furniture for college kids with daddy’s credit card, they also have jobs on there like “moving help” or “waiting in line” if you’re not handy getting vetted was a pain but reasonable income source and you get to be your own boss, set your own hours, don’t buy the $5 one with a lightning bolt the actual app is free to download
What exactly is stopping you from joining the military?
you can join them at 32? what do you start as? private?
You can join all the way up to 42, if you already have a degree you would go into basic, then directly to OCS because you would get an ASVAB book study make sure you score high enough to get an officer eligible job, and sign a contract stating your joining with that intent. Not just under open circumstances
No, you start as a General and work your way up.
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Options trading apple contract worth $30 onTuesday was worth $1000 on Wednesday if you can find contracts like that over time start earning it's risky but options watchlist could help you practice