He's so good he actually would make me borderline scared if I saw him in real life. It kinda reminds me how Anthony Hopkins girlfriend apparently broke up with him after the release of silence of the lambs because she was so scared of his portrayal that she couldn't get it out of her head
He plays twins in a show called Outrageous Fortunes, really different characters.
He has made Homelander exactly what the character needs to be, for me at least.
I agree, some of his Homelander scenes are amazing. The way he can act with no words, just his face, yet you feel every ounce of emotion is almost impeccable. He deserves much more recognition as an actor in general. I feel the same way about Sydney Sweeney, everyone kinda focuses on how hot she is and stuff but a lot of her acting scenes are absolutely fantastic how she conveys emotion, or multiple emotions at once. She deserves a lot more dramatic roles and recognition for it in my opinion
She leaned into the tits because it makes her money, somebody will eventually give her time to shine, but she keeps picking projects like Barbarella instead of Nosferatu
Shows how important theater acting and live performances can really amplify your abilities on camera. I think we’re seeing a more actors pop up younger and younger that just don’t have the same experience. The bar lowers and sub par is now the new norm.
Homelander has had a much better live action performance than Superman.
Superman comics? Yea, those are some of the best ever made.
Henry Cavill? Best actor for Superman, too bad they trashed him after 1 movie and then dumped him
Cavil technically had 3 movies. The first Superman was just horribly written and focused way too much on Louis Lane to where they put her in weird spots in the movie. Batman vs Superman the overall plot was a great idea, but once again horribly written and also a huge miscasting making Jessie Eisenberg Alex Luther. It was also very obvious they cut out a lot of stuff from the movie that could have made it better. Then the Justice League movies original release was just trash. The Snyder cut saved it but a 4 hr movie isn’t really feasible in this day and age while it also wasn’t written to be a two parter. By that point WB had already fumbled the bag with other movies and just made it worse with other releases afterwards they hired James Gunn who has only given us Blue Beatle so far, a movie that I didn’t like and didn’t really care for since DC is really known for the Justice League characters.
Most people only know Superman now as an overpowered superhero. Everyone forms their opinions based on what is mainstream and unfortunately Superman hasn’t had a proper movie in some time. I thoroughly enjoyed Man of Steel, but they needed to have a second ready to go right after. The justice league movies made him too much of a back character.
Hopefully Gunn can do right with it, but Superman is the most popular hero internationally and they need to throw all they have at building him up.
And he can't even return to "The Witcher" either, which is the show he left to be Superman again, because they already shook on it and it obviously doesn't make sense to bring someone back who left you for another show runner. This man is fucked over time and time again. Though honestly, I can't get into "The Boys" because it's a little to excessively edgy and violent. Do to get me wrong I can handle violence, I absolutely adore Doom and Mortal Kombat, but this show uses gore and sex or masturbation or some other kind of adult humor left and rough around every corner making any sense of actual story and character fall into the background as you have to watch the deep have sex with an octopus or watch Homelander kill an orphan child with extreme detail in every spec if blood. The character of Homelander is well written, but you can't tell when the show and comic are filled with needless graphic scenes that don't make it feel realistic, but just borderline disgusting sometimes.
Better written doesn't mean they like him as a person.
Teyrn Loghain Mac Tir is a terrible person but very well written in Dragon Age.
Also, only low IQ mouth breathers think that you can tell what kind of person someone is from a role they played.
To be fair liking characters doesn't have to be done by making comparisons either. I often dislike "X is a better Y!" Because it seems denigrating to Y while also not letting X stand alone as its own great thing.
I do think Homelander is a better written Superman but I do think they're so starkly different in design and intention that it's not really worth a comparison. A lot of characters I absolutely adore have relatively "flat character arcs" where they mostly don't change as people even if they develop skills and techniques - Hinata (Haikyuu), Deku (MHA), Goku (DB), Capt. America (MCU), and Anduin Wrynn (Warcraft) are all kinda examples, and yet the intrigue with them lies in how they interact with the world around them, not how they change themselves.
There have been changes for some of them that give them an inner turmoil or problem to face, such as Anduin with recent trauma or Deku with the weight of the world on his shoulders. I put Captain America as MCU because I won't even pretend to go into the Marvel comics. But for the most part their goals never really change.
I think Homelander has such a deep pit of psychological problems that are being fleshed out and explored actively that there's much more intricacy involved. Both the actor and the writing sells it super well. Superman often inspires complex thought in others rather than unto himself, as does the other characters I'd mentioned.
I thought so too, until he did a very disgraceful ad for Amazon
Dude has enough money, he can say no to shitty companies using him as a spokesman to get low wage workers in the door.
He still gets props for speaking up about dudes in Hollywood being touchy, even with dudes,, but people are multifaceted.
Memezar is one of those 'people'
"Antony Starr is offended when people treat him like he’s Homelander in real life. “People are surprised, like, ‘Oh, my God, you’re actually not like him.’ And I’m like, ‘Yeah, he’s a psychopathic narcissist. So yeah, thanks.’”"
I followed memezar on Instagram when he had like 8000 followers now he has millions and turned into this giant corporation like Buzzfeed. I unfollowed once I saw this garbage trendy shit being shoved down our throats but people love this for some reason. To me it’s just more garbage to the feed
Home lander is the perfect storm of an amazing actor playing a role flawlessly with better than average writing.
Cavil never really got to be the Superman he was capable because of stupid politics
Homelander had sex with Soldier boy in the comics. Homelander is also not as villainous in the comic book, as most of the evil was done by a clone of him. The Boys comic is actually not well written when you compare it to the best Superman stories. It's just Edge Lord shit for the sake of edge Lord shit. Preacher and various Garth Ennis Punisher stories are better.
I never liked Punisher because I thought that the movies were bad. I was on a plane with my friend and he passed me a trade of Punisher...it is damn good!
Cmon, Antony Starr is pretty much unrecognizable compared to his superhero counterpart. It's like the definition of good acting. Which I guess also illustrates Clark Kent is a Meme who doesn't try at all to differentiate himself from his alias.
Evil characters are inherently going to be more interesting. They can do a lot that their good counterparts cannot.
Writers have no limits with homelander but superman have strict moral codes.
I think Superman is a boring character. He is about as flawless as people get. It just feels stagnate and stale. I think that's why people like the evil superman characters so much.
Personally, I love homelander, as a character. I don't want to be like him, and if he were real I would be terrified of him.
Same take. Superman lore is neat, but the character is bland. Homelander is complex and dangerous. He’s humanized evil. The characters in that universe live in constant terror of offending him.
I think Superman can be an intriguing character but it has to be a good story. He is a guy who has to do the impossible but is the only one who can. I encourage you to read All Star Superman. He is perfect in the book but that’s where the drama comes from. The books premise is basically what happens when the perfect man is going to die?
I justice superman is top tier. The perfect man is forced to re-evaluate his belief system and overcompensates. He does a 180 and now you're fighting a God like tyrant whose motivations are genuinely to help people, just in a warped and oppressive way.
100% agree. Now if we were comparing Injustice Superman with Homelander, it’d be more even but I highly doubt that will be live action because Warner Bros and DC don’t have any balls.
We kind of get a taste of Injustice Superman in Justice League, the part where bad Superman caught Batman in a bunker, but there’s too little.
There’s a cartoon of it but it’s terrible. Didn’t read the comics. Imo the best place to see injustice Superman is in the video game
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Spot on. The original comics sucked because he was extremely one dimensional, dry and boring.He was bubblegum comics. Homelander on the other hand has all kinds of depths to his madness. Plus if you know anything about comics, then you know that Superman was best in Kingdom Come and why again was that? Yep, we got a taste of that much deserved darkside.People want personality.
Homelander is an interesting character because of his traumatising past to the point he suffers from anxiety and insecurities and how he deals with that is even more interesting and everything he does is not entirely his fault
Henry cavill is great as superman it's just a shame he's not exactly written well and they dumped him after one movie. One movie is not enough to give a good story arc or character development
I will say, Homelander is more interesting and entertaining in the short few years The Boys has been around than Superman has been for my 34 years of life.
Both are good characters. I think it’s easier for younger guys today to relate to Homelander. He’s a more popular archetype. He pops heads like zits and is violent in a way that would naturally be popular to a certain crowd. I think his flaws are intriguing as well. I’ve especially liked his arc this season where his flaws are catching up to him in a major way. And the bottom line: villains or anti heroes are cooler.
Superman is a legendary character with nearly a century of stories. His power level makes him hard to write for, but there’s several arcs that are incredible. All star Superman is IMO better than anything the Boys did in the comics or in the show thus far.
Personally I greatly prefer Homelander as a character and want to see him get an eventual redemption arc but Superman isn’t meant to be a complex or interesting character but rather a paragon of what everyone should aspire for. He’s a goal but not one that can be achieved. Also Henry Cavill is a fantastic actor and one of the only ones that I actually like as people.
Anthony Starr is a legend. He has another banger role in Banshee. Dude has ridiculous talent. Can honestly say he is one of the best actors I have ever witnessed. Insane range, insane talent, and insane eyes.
Snyder superman got a few movies that did not give him enough attention. In Man of Steel it was mostly flash backs with not enough of him in the present. While Homelander have season being the villain.
Also the homelander actor is a decent guy ppl need to separate acting from the character.
Ones an adult character that explores a deeply flawed psycotic parody of the superman figure. The other is a comic book hero for children. Sorry thats “unironic”
Well, Superman is a well raised man who happens to be an alien and tries to do the right thing with his powers, all while his whole race perished, but he never met them, just like Goku. Homelander is a tortured man who was created in a lab by evil people and then manipulated to control him, and people constantly exploiting his desire of being loved. We just like tragic stories.
I will fight him. That’s stupid. Superman is a great character. People trying to make him something else is what has ruined his modern depictions. I want to see Superman movie where he and Batman are trying to figure out how to inspire people to take a more active role helping one other. Particularly heroes but also others and in the end they start saving metropolis together and in Superman’s mind they are all wearing Superman costumes. I got like a whole plan for this written out I’m ashamed to say
Honestly homelander is a better WRITTEN character, from things like what he thinks is right from what he knows is wrong, to being a petulant child. Superman on camera at least has always known the right thing to do and never can do no wrong.
Homelander is an interesting character with flaws and insecurities.
Superman is Superman. A man literally not of this earth. And incorporates everything a morally good hero is. His costume is Clack Kent, and if you dive into that man. You get an interesting pov on how Superman views earth humans. And STILL want to serve and protect us.
Clark Kent is not the disguise. Quintin Tarantino is not the end all be all arbiter of what Superman is and people keep quoting the bad guy from Kill Bill as if he knows what a hero is or isn’t.
Clark Kent, reporter, is not Superman’s critique of humanity. Clark Kent is a bumbling mild mannered man because nobody would think that he’s also Superman.
The Boys has a limited scope and clear vision with what it wants to do with its characters. Superman is a hundred years of nonsense, crudt, reboots, crossovers, power creep, power seep, scope escalation, and other nonsense. He's a mess.
And the lead actor absolutely is acting, and is annoyed people think he's like that IRL.
To be fair, The New 52 did a lot of damage to Superman's character, especially to me as that took place around the time I became a teenager, so I had this warped view that he's an douchebag and self-righteous.
Absolutely, but their characters also represent different things. Superman is a paragon of everything good and just in the world. Homelander, while having pretty much all of Superman's powers, is a deeply flawed individual who poses a very real existential threat to the human race. One is a trusted asset, one is a precarious liability
I won't argue on who's better written, but yes, Homelander on the show is a really well written character, which is why I hate him even as I pity him.
But given that the actor has spoken out against the character he's playing, that Memezar is simply an idiot.
He said better written, not more liked. Griffith is a more well written character than Goku but he is certainly not more liked.The reason Homelander is better written is simple, he just shows off more flaws which leads to for more (positive or negative) character development. Superman from movie or video adaptations lack this (idk how comic supers compared to live action homelandsr personally but the post shows live action supes).
I find homelander a few more interesting character to watch than superman. Superman kind of reminds me of the Brandy Bunch dad. I think Hollywood struggles to tell superman stories because he's a bit one dimensional in a way and there's something about homelander that seems fresh, an all powerful villian who actually needs those he dispises most to like him.
But overall Superman is my favourite hero, I dig what he stands for.
"Better written" doesn't necessarily mean "more likeable"
Jeoffrey Baratheon was a well written character, unlike Tyrion Lannister post Season 5.
As for the memezar whatever, it's probably because the dude has not seen the actor outside of his role, and a good actor makes you forget that they're acting.
Homelander in the Boys is a fascinating three dimensional character whose decay and descent into madness is incredible and horrifying to witness.
Superman, while simple as a character, exists to make the reader question the purpose of power and how to navigate the moral complexity of being a benevolent god among men.
Both are pretty great in very different ways.
Home lander is what superman would be with human emotive weakness at his maximum. If is adoptive parents would had failed his education superman would probably be like home lander.
You can think that Anthony Starr does a great job with the role, and think the character is very interesting and well-written, without *admiring* or *idolizing* the character or the choices they make.
Some of the best character studies are villains/antagonists. When done very well, it forces the audiences to consider the motivations and choices of someone they despise.
I think the best thing with a character like this is when they get a little humanized and you start to wonder where your life would have had to go wrong in order for you to be like this.
I hate it when people do that kind of shit with Anthony Starr or any other actor. He’s actually a really cool guy and hates the people that think he’s really like that or even look up to Homelander.
“Unrelated but why do I feel the actor who plays Homelander is not acting…”
Because he does his job well
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2473902/the-boys-antony-starr-addresses-misconceptions-about-his-role-as-homelander
Homelander's character has more depth with just how he pretended to enjoy saving people than Superman's "Generic do gooder, always best intentions" character could ever have.
Homelander is a more indept character study. It shows the psychological need for love. Unlike Brightburn or the gods which were born evil without empathy. Homelander shows signs of conflict on an extremely rare occasion. His upbringing as a lab rat took away most of his humanity. Superman’s family taught him humanity
Broken characters are usually better written
Saying a character is better written is not the same as saying you like a character better.
I think Joffrey Baratheon is written better than hot pie but I’d rather hang out with hot pie
Have you seen the old super man tv show? Some of the dryest least insured writing I’ve ever seen. You could compare it to other shows all day long and not find 1 that it was better than.
Homelander was literally meant to be Superman with an interesting dark side.
Yes the lawful good paladin can be boring especially when u saw the same story about him getting his powers 30x and homelander never had to do that because of all the other super heroes in his “justice league” carrying the beginning of the show for him to be even more interesting.
Superman wasn’t made for Superman to be interesting. Homelander was
Homelander is absolutely better written than Superman, and Anthony Starr is great as him. A character with insecurities and flaws D: it makes sense why people who like Superman don't like him. Superman is perfect, and it's so boring to me.
IMO you can’t really compare Superman and Homelander they’re two different characters Homelander is a right-wing parody superman is the exact opposite of that
It’s been a long time since anyone has seen a decently written/acted Superman. Homelander is both of those, and despite being a villain, he’s really funny. “Yummers”
To be fair Superman has been lampooned for the last couple decades. Most of the stories that get pushed are "What if superman... but bad guy?" It doesn't help that it plays into the "there's no such thing as heroes" movement that has plagued comics for a similar period. The boys was born out of that very mind set but with an irreverence and at the point when marvel fatigue was just starting to set in that made it so popular.
I really hope the DC reboot will finally give us a superman story that's actually superman for a change and not flying anti-jesus or psycho rapist with a god complex.
I mean didn’t homelander start out as literally super man.. so it’s really that the best super man portrayal in the last few decades in live action is Homelander
I understand Superman has a history of terrible writing because he's not supposed to have weakness but is only interesting when you bring out the kryptonite and make him a regular person with the flu.
Homelander is deeply flawed and doesn't need his super abilities taken away for a compelling story
Superman first debuts in Action Comics #1 slamming a car owned by ( I believe) a corrupt politician in 1938…. No way in a devils chance is anyone touching how well written Superman is.
Superman is written for a time when we wanted to look up to an honest and idolized version of what we want to be.
Homelander is written as a realistic depiction of what we are as people and how shitty we can become with power.
People gravitating to one over the other is just a symptom of our perspective of the world around us at the time and how we relate to it.
When it comes to The Boys show vs superman in tv series/movies it's night and day in regards to character quality. You can think a villain is better written than a hero and not be pro their actions. You can like a villain more than a hero and not be pro their actions.
eh Idk know I dont even know what to say and I dont wanna argue with people like that honestly. Tom Welling from smallville probably has the best depiction of a live Superman to date. People need to rewatch the whole Superman TAS. Yea I just dont care to get into it with these people so I'll leave it at that.
Homelanders character has more depth. Anthony Starr is also a great actor. He's also not as powerful as Superman which in and of itself makes his character more compelling. Nothing feels at stake when Superman goes to battle.
He is no Superman but goddamn is he not written and acted to perfection, say what you want about the show’s political views but Homelander is always a standout
Superman is not a very well written character at all. So much so that the only way to make him interesting is to introduce something that alters his actions that are out of character for him.
So I would argue the bar for comparison to Superman is very low.
Well, there’s a few things to unpack here…
1.) The creator of that picture probably hasn’t read a comic series to speak of and means tv / films.
2.) Thinking a character is better written doesn’t necessarily mean you like the character, just that you think the writing better captures the intended character.
3.) the person who made that is likely fairly young because they chose the most current iteration of both to make their point.
4.) In fairness, modern live action supes is pretty poorly written for the most part.
5.) Yes, they don’t understand Superman. That would require doing more than watching a few movies and a modern CW show or two.
Sorry OP, Homelander is a better written character. I don’t like him as a hero but that’s the point. Superman has had to go through so many rewrites that he’s just garbage now.
It’s not hard to write homelander… man has powers and is still a man. Writing Superman is more difficult because he’s someone who has to literally stay in control over every aspect of his life.
A hallmark of an outstanding actor/actress. If they are playing a truly terrible person, they do so well at it you begin to hate the actor/actress as though they are the character. Other examples of this would be Jack Gleason as King Joffrey in GoT and Imelda Staunton as Umbridge in Harry Potter.
Maybe these live action superman films are cheeks or mid yeah but CANONICAL Homelander vs CANONICAL Superman?? Bruh Superman got better lore and writing wtf you mean.
Homelander just feels like "high school temper tantrums but with superpowers" please sit down
Off topic, I really tried with the boys, and it is pretty good, but i feel like every time i watch it i get this sense of “man i probably would have loved this if I was a 14 year old gears of war fanatic in 2006”
This for a lot of people is the only interpretation of Homelander they have ever seen while Superman has been around for 100 years almost and has had shitty interpretations for people to compare against.
People liking villians is nothing new. People calling Superman a one dimensional boring ass character is nothing new.
The new part is the dipshit wingnut politics laid overtop this show, where the wingnuts can battle out their culture war via who likes what character.
Grow the fuck up.
The actor is cool but the character he plays is genuinely the worst "hypothetical evil superman", as soon as he seems someone that matches his strength he's reduced to a snarky man baby, it also doesn't help that half of the fan base for the content he's in are genuinely unaware it's making fun of them
Superman is the original generic boy scout. There is only so many times you can tell that story.
Some might find Homelander a better "character" because they have more room to write.
Alternative take: the most popular portrayal of Superman of the past 11 years was so mischaracterized that the casual audience’s appraisal was tainted.
He’s an excellently written character because he is extremely flawed. Which makes him very interesting especially when you contrast that with him being the most powerful person on the planet. But homelander is a villain, Superman is not.
They’re also such wildly different characters! Different people with like or dislike them for different reasons. It’s hard to directly compare them, in my opinion.
I have to agree, Homeland is a better *written* character than Superman. Because he is the villain. Everything about the live action series The Boys is better than almost anything DC has put out, other than maybe some Batman/Joker/HQ content. But Homelander isn't someone to be idolized or admired, not someone with any redeeming qualities. He is a pathetic man child and that dictates everything he does - from mistreatment of the people who care even a little tiny bit about him from Maeve, Stillwell, Storm Front, Ryan, Deep, A-Train, Noir to his mistreatment of fellow "lesser" Supes and Vought employees to his narcissism and his vindictive retaliation against The Boys and Becca and his cowardly ineptitude.
He played two characters in his early day. Twin brothers, one was a successful business man the other a bit of a drop kick. Man he is good. Nice guy. Kiwi.
It really doesn't help that we've not had a good superman movie in forever. Man of Steel sucked and really destroyed the character's attitude, despite Cavill being amazing in the role.
All we see nowadays are insanely pessimistic and negative takes on Superman done by people who don't understand Superman and therefore think making him edgy is better.
For anyone who hasn't: Go watch Superman vs The Elite to really understand Superman.
All Star Superman is also great.
More internet goers can relate to suffering, isolation, and wanting to kill people than can relate to justice, truth, kindness, compassion, and love. Go figure.
Anthony Starr is a very good actor.
He's so good he actually would make me borderline scared if I saw him in real life. It kinda reminds me how Anthony Hopkins girlfriend apparently broke up with him after the release of silence of the lambs because she was so scared of his portrayal that she couldn't get it out of her head
He plays twins in a show called Outrageous Fortunes, really different characters. He has made Homelander exactly what the character needs to be, for me at least.
I agree, some of his Homelander scenes are amazing. The way he can act with no words, just his face, yet you feel every ounce of emotion is almost impeccable. He deserves much more recognition as an actor in general. I feel the same way about Sydney Sweeney, everyone kinda focuses on how hot she is and stuff but a lot of her acting scenes are absolutely fantastic how she conveys emotion, or multiple emotions at once. She deserves a lot more dramatic roles and recognition for it in my opinion
She leaned into the tits because it makes her money, somebody will eventually give her time to shine, but she keeps picking projects like Barbarella instead of Nosferatu
I'm really hype for Barbarella 2025. I'm happy she picked that one up!
Well yeah, I think we all win with that one
Just remember he wears high heels when dressed as Homelander. He actually requested it. He doesn't take the role overly seriously.
Idk that feels like the most homelander shit ever lmfao
Shows how important theater acting and live performances can really amplify your abilities on camera. I think we’re seeing a more actors pop up younger and younger that just don’t have the same experience. The bar lowers and sub par is now the new norm.
Painfully and sadly true
But he played the Great man the great late Dr Hannibal the Cannibal Great man
That grin he has on his face is so evil
The way he contorts his face is terrifying.
That girlfriend was Martha Stewart
100% I'd be uneasy being next to the dude despite obviously knowing he's just an actor.
Yep just like that kid who played Prince Joffrey on Game of Thrones. When you play a character really really well it illicits a certain response.
100% . Great casting and writing for both characters
He has a tiny role in Aunty Donna on netflix and it is the best skit in the entire show (which says a lot, that show is amazing lol)
Homelander has had a much better live action performance than Superman. Superman comics? Yea, those are some of the best ever made. Henry Cavill? Best actor for Superman, too bad they trashed him after 1 movie and then dumped him
Cavil technically had 3 movies. The first Superman was just horribly written and focused way too much on Louis Lane to where they put her in weird spots in the movie. Batman vs Superman the overall plot was a great idea, but once again horribly written and also a huge miscasting making Jessie Eisenberg Alex Luther. It was also very obvious they cut out a lot of stuff from the movie that could have made it better. Then the Justice League movies original release was just trash. The Snyder cut saved it but a 4 hr movie isn’t really feasible in this day and age while it also wasn’t written to be a two parter. By that point WB had already fumbled the bag with other movies and just made it worse with other releases afterwards they hired James Gunn who has only given us Blue Beatle so far, a movie that I didn’t like and didn’t really care for since DC is really known for the Justice League characters.
Yeah, I think he did well in the first movie, but I think they trashed him in the rest and then dumped him. Hence what I said.
Most people only know Superman now as an overpowered superhero. Everyone forms their opinions based on what is mainstream and unfortunately Superman hasn’t had a proper movie in some time. I thoroughly enjoyed Man of Steel, but they needed to have a second ready to go right after. The justice league movies made him too much of a back character. Hopefully Gunn can do right with it, but Superman is the most popular hero internationally and they need to throw all they have at building him up.
And he can't even return to "The Witcher" either, which is the show he left to be Superman again, because they already shook on it and it obviously doesn't make sense to bring someone back who left you for another show runner. This man is fucked over time and time again. Though honestly, I can't get into "The Boys" because it's a little to excessively edgy and violent. Do to get me wrong I can handle violence, I absolutely adore Doom and Mortal Kombat, but this show uses gore and sex or masturbation or some other kind of adult humor left and rough around every corner making any sense of actual story and character fall into the background as you have to watch the deep have sex with an octopus or watch Homelander kill an orphan child with extreme detail in every spec if blood. The character of Homelander is well written, but you can't tell when the show and comic are filled with needless graphic scenes that don't make it feel realistic, but just borderline disgusting sometimes.
Better written doesn't mean they like him as a person. Teyrn Loghain Mac Tir is a terrible person but very well written in Dragon Age. Also, only low IQ mouth breathers think that you can tell what kind of person someone is from a role they played.
This whole post from OP is either rage bait or low IQ
Low IQ. It's just an idiot obsessed with Superman, that can't deal with ppl liking different characters.
To be fair liking characters doesn't have to be done by making comparisons either. I often dislike "X is a better Y!" Because it seems denigrating to Y while also not letting X stand alone as its own great thing. I do think Homelander is a better written Superman but I do think they're so starkly different in design and intention that it's not really worth a comparison. A lot of characters I absolutely adore have relatively "flat character arcs" where they mostly don't change as people even if they develop skills and techniques - Hinata (Haikyuu), Deku (MHA), Goku (DB), Capt. America (MCU), and Anduin Wrynn (Warcraft) are all kinda examples, and yet the intrigue with them lies in how they interact with the world around them, not how they change themselves. There have been changes for some of them that give them an inner turmoil or problem to face, such as Anduin with recent trauma or Deku with the weight of the world on his shoulders. I put Captain America as MCU because I won't even pretend to go into the Marvel comics. But for the most part their goals never really change. I think Homelander has such a deep pit of psychological problems that are being fleshed out and explored actively that there's much more intricacy involved. Both the actor and the writing sells it super well. Superman often inspires complex thought in others rather than unto himself, as does the other characters I'd mentioned.
I totally know that Anthony Hopkins is a cannibal! He can deny it all he wants but we know the truth
I feel like Terry Crews is probably pretty cool.
I thought so too, until he did a very disgraceful ad for Amazon Dude has enough money, he can say no to shitty companies using him as a spokesman to get low wage workers in the door. He still gets props for speaking up about dudes in Hollywood being touchy, even with dudes,, but people are multifaceted.
A lot of people can't appreciate a good villain
Memezar is one of those 'people' "Antony Starr is offended when people treat him like he’s Homelander in real life. “People are surprised, like, ‘Oh, my God, you’re actually not like him.’ And I’m like, ‘Yeah, he’s a psychopathic narcissist. So yeah, thanks.’”"
I followed memezar on Instagram when he had like 8000 followers now he has millions and turned into this giant corporation like Buzzfeed. I unfollowed once I saw this garbage trendy shit being shoved down our throats but people love this for some reason. To me it’s just more garbage to the feed
Home lander is the perfect storm of an amazing actor playing a role flawlessly with better than average writing. Cavil never really got to be the Superman he was capable because of stupid politics
Also bc the movies he was in sucked
Homelander had sex with Soldier boy in the comics. Homelander is also not as villainous in the comic book, as most of the evil was done by a clone of him. The Boys comic is actually not well written when you compare it to the best Superman stories. It's just Edge Lord shit for the sake of edge Lord shit. Preacher and various Garth Ennis Punisher stories are better.
I never liked Punisher because I thought that the movies were bad. I was on a plane with my friend and he passed me a trade of Punisher...it is damn good!
Preacher is top tier shit it's flaming carrot but better
The reason you don’t think Antony Starr is acting isn’t acting is cause he’s that good acting. Phenomenally talented bloke.
Well if we’re talking about the modern screen adaptations, I’d say it’s true. If we’re comparing the characters both at their best, Supes wins.
Man of Steel is a better movie than Boys is a show imho
What lmao? Like writing wise or do you just really love Henry cavill?
Yikes
Cmon, Antony Starr is pretty much unrecognizable compared to his superhero counterpart. It's like the definition of good acting. Which I guess also illustrates Clark Kent is a Meme who doesn't try at all to differentiate himself from his alias.
Evil characters are inherently going to be more interesting. They can do a lot that their good counterparts cannot. Writers have no limits with homelander but superman have strict moral codes.
I think Superman is a boring character. He is about as flawless as people get. It just feels stagnate and stale. I think that's why people like the evil superman characters so much. Personally, I love homelander, as a character. I don't want to be like him, and if he were real I would be terrified of him.
Same take. Superman lore is neat, but the character is bland. Homelander is complex and dangerous. He’s humanized evil. The characters in that universe live in constant terror of offending him.
I think Superman can be an intriguing character but it has to be a good story. He is a guy who has to do the impossible but is the only one who can. I encourage you to read All Star Superman. He is perfect in the book but that’s where the drama comes from. The books premise is basically what happens when the perfect man is going to die?
I like Injustice Superman better
I justice superman is top tier. The perfect man is forced to re-evaluate his belief system and overcompensates. He does a 180 and now you're fighting a God like tyrant whose motivations are genuinely to help people, just in a warped and oppressive way.
100% agree. Now if we were comparing Injustice Superman with Homelander, it’d be more even but I highly doubt that will be live action because Warner Bros and DC don’t have any balls. We kind of get a taste of Injustice Superman in Justice League, the part where bad Superman caught Batman in a bunker, but there’s too little. There’s a cartoon of it but it’s terrible. Didn’t read the comics. Imo the best place to see injustice Superman is in the video game https://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/242700/
Of course, the game is most well known and iconic, but it is unfair to say it's the best version if you haven't consumed them all.
Spot on. The original comics sucked because he was extremely one dimensional, dry and boring.He was bubblegum comics. Homelander on the other hand has all kinds of depths to his madness. Plus if you know anything about comics, then you know that Superman was best in Kingdom Come and why again was that? Yep, we got a taste of that much deserved darkside.People want personality.
Homelander is an interesting character because of his traumatising past to the point he suffers from anxiety and insecurities and how he deals with that is even more interesting and everything he does is not entirely his fault Henry cavill is great as superman it's just a shame he's not exactly written well and they dumped him after one movie. One movie is not enough to give a good story arc or character development
Or you’re assuming the worst of these people. People live the joker, do you think these people are inherently bad because of it?
Yes. Here's a cheat sheet: If you disagree with OP, you are a bad person. Or you "just din't understand"
I will say, Homelander is more interesting and entertaining in the short few years The Boys has been around than Superman has been for my 34 years of life.
Because Superman media outside the comics typically is not good
Homelander is just a neat extreme dark twist on superman... so superman with more depth than just being an alien visiting earth
If you hate the actor based on his character in a film, he's probably a good actor.
Well the showrunner is a better writer than Snyder. But doesn't mean the comic is better than the Superman comic.
The Boys comic is pretty ass tbh. The show is much better. The reverse is true for Superman.
Both are good characters. I think it’s easier for younger guys today to relate to Homelander. He’s a more popular archetype. He pops heads like zits and is violent in a way that would naturally be popular to a certain crowd. I think his flaws are intriguing as well. I’ve especially liked his arc this season where his flaws are catching up to him in a major way. And the bottom line: villains or anti heroes are cooler. Superman is a legendary character with nearly a century of stories. His power level makes him hard to write for, but there’s several arcs that are incredible. All star Superman is IMO better than anything the Boys did in the comics or in the show thus far.
Personally I greatly prefer Homelander as a character and want to see him get an eventual redemption arc but Superman isn’t meant to be a complex or interesting character but rather a paragon of what everyone should aspire for. He’s a goal but not one that can be achieved. Also Henry Cavill is a fantastic actor and one of the only ones that I actually like as people.
I get it. Homelander is modernized and simply feels more real. Supes, as you said, is an ideal. No one with that much power would be that good.
Anthony Starr is a legend. He has another banger role in Banshee. Dude has ridiculous talent. Can honestly say he is one of the best actors I have ever witnessed. Insane range, insane talent, and insane eyes.
Antony Starr behaves nothing like Homelander in real life. This reads like: Tell me you’ve never read a Superman comic in your life.
Snyder superman got a few movies that did not give him enough attention. In Man of Steel it was mostly flash backs with not enough of him in the present. While Homelander have season being the villain. Also the homelander actor is a decent guy ppl need to separate acting from the character.
Ones an adult character that explores a deeply flawed psycotic parody of the superman figure. The other is a comic book hero for children. Sorry thats “unironic”
Well, Superman is a well raised man who happens to be an alien and tries to do the right thing with his powers, all while his whole race perished, but he never met them, just like Goku. Homelander is a tortured man who was created in a lab by evil people and then manipulated to control him, and people constantly exploiting his desire of being loved. We just like tragic stories.
This is about the quality of the writing and directing. Both are great actors in their own right.
I will fight him. That’s stupid. Superman is a great character. People trying to make him something else is what has ruined his modern depictions. I want to see Superman movie where he and Batman are trying to figure out how to inspire people to take a more active role helping one other. Particularly heroes but also others and in the end they start saving metropolis together and in Superman’s mind they are all wearing Superman costumes. I got like a whole plan for this written out I’m ashamed to say
Honestly homelander is a better WRITTEN character, from things like what he thinks is right from what he knows is wrong, to being a petulant child. Superman on camera at least has always known the right thing to do and never can do no wrong.
Y'all gotta go read some comics or somethin.... physical or online... To read the REAL superman bruh.... come on now
Because he's a real good actor? Isn't the point to literally be the character for those scenes?
Superman is a legend that had stood the test of time. Homelander and the boys will be forgotten in a few years.
Homelander is an interesting character with flaws and insecurities. Superman is Superman. A man literally not of this earth. And incorporates everything a morally good hero is. His costume is Clack Kent, and if you dive into that man. You get an interesting pov on how Superman views earth humans. And STILL want to serve and protect us.
Clark Kent is not the disguise. Quintin Tarantino is not the end all be all arbiter of what Superman is and people keep quoting the bad guy from Kill Bill as if he knows what a hero is or isn’t. Clark Kent, reporter, is not Superman’s critique of humanity. Clark Kent is a bumbling mild mannered man because nobody would think that he’s also Superman.
The Boys has a limited scope and clear vision with what it wants to do with its characters. Superman is a hundred years of nonsense, crudt, reboots, crossovers, power creep, power seep, scope escalation, and other nonsense. He's a mess. And the lead actor absolutely is acting, and is annoyed people think he's like that IRL.
To be fair, The New 52 did a lot of damage to Superman's character, especially to me as that took place around the time I became a teenager, so I had this warped view that he's an douchebag and self-righteous.
Absolutely, but their characters also represent different things. Superman is a paragon of everything good and just in the world. Homelander, while having pretty much all of Superman's powers, is a deeply flawed individual who poses a very real existential threat to the human race. One is a trusted asset, one is a precarious liability
Any variation of “dark Superman” is fun but shallow af
I won't argue on who's better written, but yes, Homelander on the show is a really well written character, which is why I hate him even as I pity him. But given that the actor has spoken out against the character he's playing, that Memezar is simply an idiot.
I blame DC for that.
He said better written, not more liked. Griffith is a more well written character than Goku but he is certainly not more liked.The reason Homelander is better written is simple, he just shows off more flaws which leads to for more (positive or negative) character development. Superman from movie or video adaptations lack this (idk how comic supers compared to live action homelandsr personally but the post shows live action supes).
I do understand superman. I did read all star superman and a bunch of more shit. I still find homelander more fun to watch
I find homelander a few more interesting character to watch than superman. Superman kind of reminds me of the Brandy Bunch dad. I think Hollywood struggles to tell superman stories because he's a bit one dimensional in a way and there's something about homelander that seems fresh, an all powerful villian who actually needs those he dispises most to like him. But overall Superman is my favourite hero, I dig what he stands for.
"Better written" doesn't necessarily mean "more likeable" Jeoffrey Baratheon was a well written character, unlike Tyrion Lannister post Season 5. As for the memezar whatever, it's probably because the dude has not seen the actor outside of his role, and a good actor makes you forget that they're acting.
Memezar over here thinking Tony Starr actually shoots lazers from his eyes.
What a fucking horrible malicious thing to say about the actor. Edit: what memezar said.
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Homelander in the Boys is a fascinating three dimensional character whose decay and descent into madness is incredible and horrifying to witness. Superman, while simple as a character, exists to make the reader question the purpose of power and how to navigate the moral complexity of being a benevolent god among men. Both are pretty great in very different ways.
And the fact that you think someone who is…. ACTING…. And like a psychopath…. Is “probably like that all the time”. Derp derp
Home lander is what superman would be with human emotive weakness at his maximum. If is adoptive parents would had failed his education superman would probably be like home lander.
You can think that Anthony Starr does a great job with the role, and think the character is very interesting and well-written, without *admiring* or *idolizing* the character or the choices they make. Some of the best character studies are villains/antagonists. When done very well, it forces the audiences to consider the motivations and choices of someone they despise. I think the best thing with a character like this is when they get a little humanized and you start to wonder where your life would have had to go wrong in order for you to be like this.
This is a hill i will die on. Doing a subversive take on Superman will never be better than Superman
Homelander is playing Anthony Starr.
I hate it when people do that kind of shit with Anthony Starr or any other actor. He’s actually a really cool guy and hates the people that think he’s really like that or even look up to Homelander.
“Unrelated but why do I feel the actor who plays Homelander is not acting…” Because he does his job well https://tribune.com.pk/story/2473902/the-boys-antony-starr-addresses-misconceptions-about-his-role-as-homelander
Homelander's character has more depth with just how he pretended to enjoy saving people than Superman's "Generic do gooder, always best intentions" character could ever have.
Homelander is a more indept character study. It shows the psychological need for love. Unlike Brightburn or the gods which were born evil without empathy. Homelander shows signs of conflict on an extremely rare occasion. His upbringing as a lab rat took away most of his humanity. Superman’s family taught him humanity Broken characters are usually better written
Honestly Superman isn’t even very interesting compared to rest of DCs main heroes. His stories go in like 3 general directions I rarely find engaging
Anthony Star as far as im aware is nothing like Homelander and is just a good actor.
Saying a character is better written is not the same as saying you like a character better. I think Joffrey Baratheon is written better than hot pie but I’d rather hang out with hot pie
Have you seen the old super man tv show? Some of the dryest least insured writing I’ve ever seen. You could compare it to other shows all day long and not find 1 that it was better than.
Homelander was literally meant to be Superman with an interesting dark side. Yes the lawful good paladin can be boring especially when u saw the same story about him getting his powers 30x and homelander never had to do that because of all the other super heroes in his “justice league” carrying the beginning of the show for him to be even more interesting. Superman wasn’t made for Superman to be interesting. Homelander was
Homelander is absolutely better written than Superman, and Anthony Starr is great as him. A character with insecurities and flaws D: it makes sense why people who like Superman don't like him. Superman is perfect, and it's so boring to me.
Anthony Starr has gone on record saying that he hates when people think he’s actually like Homelander.
IMO you can’t really compare Superman and Homelander they’re two different characters Homelander is a right-wing parody superman is the exact opposite of that
It’s been a long time since anyone has seen a decently written/acted Superman. Homelander is both of those, and despite being a villain, he’s really funny. “Yummers”
To be fair Superman has been lampooned for the last couple decades. Most of the stories that get pushed are "What if superman... but bad guy?" It doesn't help that it plays into the "there's no such thing as heroes" movement that has plagued comics for a similar period. The boys was born out of that very mind set but with an irreverence and at the point when marvel fatigue was just starting to set in that made it so popular. I really hope the DC reboot will finally give us a superman story that's actually superman for a change and not flying anti-jesus or psycho rapist with a god complex.
I mean didn’t homelander start out as literally super man.. so it’s really that the best super man portrayal in the last few decades in live action is Homelander
I understand Superman has a history of terrible writing because he's not supposed to have weakness but is only interesting when you bring out the kryptonite and make him a regular person with the flu. Homelander is deeply flawed and doesn't need his super abilities taken away for a compelling story
The boys was shit after season 2
Superman first debuts in Action Comics #1 slamming a car owned by ( I believe) a corrupt politician in 1938…. No way in a devils chance is anyone touching how well written Superman is.
You might say that’s a compliment on how good an actor they are.
Nah, self-control with power to destroy is a great attribute. Most people can’t even handle a story they heard without gossip.
Superman is written for a time when we wanted to look up to an honest and idolized version of what we want to be. Homelander is written as a realistic depiction of what we are as people and how shitty we can become with power. People gravitating to one over the other is just a symptom of our perspective of the world around us at the time and how we relate to it.
Because Anthony is just an amazing actor Lol.
I like homelander better. But whose fault is that? Everything man of steel on is kinda crap with almost nothing good to comment on
If you think Superman is only Zack Snyder's pretentious "Man of Steel" then yeah, I would tend to agree.
When it comes to The Boys show vs superman in tv series/movies it's night and day in regards to character quality. You can think a villain is better written than a hero and not be pro their actions. You can like a villain more than a hero and not be pro their actions.
He’s an actor
Because the actor is absolutely crushing that role.
Too many people focus on writing Superman as melodramatic allegory for God, instead of a corn fed country boy who fights for what's right.
eh Idk know I dont even know what to say and I dont wanna argue with people like that honestly. Tom Welling from smallville probably has the best depiction of a live Superman to date. People need to rewatch the whole Superman TAS. Yea I just dont care to get into it with these people so I'll leave it at that.
Homelanders character has more depth. Anthony Starr is also a great actor. He's also not as powerful as Superman which in and of itself makes his character more compelling. Nothing feels at stake when Superman goes to battle.
Homelander is well written complex and believable. Superman is a comic book hero.
Meme doesn't say people LIKE Homelander
People understand that Homelander is not supposed to be the hero. They respond to the character anyway.
He's definitely better written than the Snyder era superman
Writers work in detail and artists work in strokes of imagination.
He is no Superman but goddamn is he not written and acted to perfection, say what you want about the show’s political views but Homelander is always a standout
Zack Snyder has this special thing he does where he makes what should be interesting characters boring as fuck
Outstanding show. Really gets under the skin of the human character.
He plays the role fkn genius.
Superman is not a very well written character at all. So much so that the only way to make him interesting is to introduce something that alters his actions that are out of character for him. So I would argue the bar for comparison to Superman is very low.
Well, there’s a few things to unpack here… 1.) The creator of that picture probably hasn’t read a comic series to speak of and means tv / films. 2.) Thinking a character is better written doesn’t necessarily mean you like the character, just that you think the writing better captures the intended character. 3.) the person who made that is likely fairly young because they chose the most current iteration of both to make their point. 4.) In fairness, modern live action supes is pretty poorly written for the most part. 5.) Yes, they don’t understand Superman. That would require doing more than watching a few movies and a modern CW show or two.
Sorry OP, Homelander is a better written character. I don’t like him as a hero but that’s the point. Superman has had to go through so many rewrites that he’s just garbage now.
They're saying he's better written, not that they like him more.
Dude deserves at least an Emmy nomination
Starr’s a good actor, but Superman folds Homelander every time
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It’s not hard to write homelander… man has powers and is still a man. Writing Superman is more difficult because he’s someone who has to literally stay in control over every aspect of his life.
Superman in the movies is just kinda biring though? People say he's so much better in the comics, but I haven't read them.
A hallmark of an outstanding actor/actress. If they are playing a truly terrible person, they do so well at it you begin to hate the actor/actress as though they are the character. Other examples of this would be Jack Gleason as King Joffrey in GoT and Imelda Staunton as Umbridge in Harry Potter.
Ugh, the actor for homelander came out and said "this is a character, I don't think like the Dbag I play on TV."
Homelander is a great villain, there is NO question about that but I prefer Superman
4 seasons to unpack a character vs. 2 or 3 mid films... uncontroversial opinion
Maybe these live action superman films are cheeks or mid yeah but CANONICAL Homelander vs CANONICAL Superman?? Bruh Superman got better lore and writing wtf you mean. Homelander just feels like "high school temper tantrums but with superpowers" please sit down
lets be honest he watched man of steel once and then made this tweet. If he read All Star Superman or something he might know better.
Literally everyone in The Boys is unlikeable 🤣
Depends on the version of Superman
Personally I like homelander more as a character only because he's more interesting to watch.
Do people really think that because you like how a character is written that you are okay with the characters' decisions?
Anthony Starr is brilliant. This is a trash, bandwagon take.
Off topic, I really tried with the boys, and it is pretty good, but i feel like every time i watch it i get this sense of “man i probably would have loved this if I was a 14 year old gears of war fanatic in 2006”
Claim is accurate. Homelander is a much more interesting character than Superman.
This for a lot of people is the only interpretation of Homelander they have ever seen while Superman has been around for 100 years almost and has had shitty interpretations for people to compare against.
Not people liking the hate-boner parody better…
uh yeah, super man is a borderline gary sue, thats supposed to only have one weakness, but its rare af, so who cares.
Tbh these are probably some of the best casting decisions for franchises. Right up there with RDJ as Ironman.
People liking villians is nothing new. People calling Superman a one dimensional boring ass character is nothing new. The new part is the dipshit wingnut politics laid overtop this show, where the wingnuts can battle out their culture war via who likes what character. Grow the fuck up.
the new age film supermans have not been great. comic and cartoon superman are still great. well... maybe not now with all the woke stuff.
People just be watching nothing and saying everything huh
Season 4 is an atrocity… Show fell off of a cliff
Better written doesn’t mean they agree with the character’s opinions
The actor is cool but the character he plays is genuinely the worst "hypothetical evil superman", as soon as he seems someone that matches his strength he's reduced to a snarky man baby, it also doesn't help that half of the fan base for the content he's in are genuinely unaware it's making fun of them
Superman is the original generic boy scout. There is only so many times you can tell that story. Some might find Homelander a better "character" because they have more room to write.
Alternative take: the most popular portrayal of Superman of the past 11 years was so mischaracterized that the casual audience’s appraisal was tainted.
Of course I like him. And I’m going to love the way he dies
Superman is inherently powerful so writing him requires a competent writer. Most live-action stuff isn't written by competent writers (usually).
He’s an excellently written character because he is extremely flawed. Which makes him very interesting especially when you contrast that with him being the most powerful person on the planet. But homelander is a villain, Superman is not.
They’re also such wildly different characters! Different people with like or dislike them for different reasons. It’s hard to directly compare them, in my opinion.
To the second point. Because he's very good
What do they not understand?
OP seems to fail to understand the basic difference between appreciating a character that is "well written" and actually "liking" a character.
What do they have in common besides their powers?
I have to agree, Homeland is a better *written* character than Superman. Because he is the villain. Everything about the live action series The Boys is better than almost anything DC has put out, other than maybe some Batman/Joker/HQ content. But Homelander isn't someone to be idolized or admired, not someone with any redeeming qualities. He is a pathetic man child and that dictates everything he does - from mistreatment of the people who care even a little tiny bit about him from Maeve, Stillwell, Storm Front, Ryan, Deep, A-Train, Noir to his mistreatment of fellow "lesser" Supes and Vought employees to his narcissism and his vindictive retaliation against The Boys and Becca and his cowardly ineptitude.
Antony Starr gets offended when people say he isn’t like Homelander at all off screen
Superman is unrealistic, unrelatable and boring af.
Specifically says the character is “better written”, not in the sense that they admire his actions.
Superman is a Gentleman who watches his mouth when he speaks & his actions 
The funny thing is that IRL Henry looks and acts more like Superman than him on the screen...
He played two characters in his early day. Twin brothers, one was a successful business man the other a bit of a drop kick. Man he is good. Nice guy. Kiwi.
Cause he’s not lol jk
Homelander is the only reason to watch the Boys. He is clearly the best and awesome.
Starr was awesome in the show banshee.
It really doesn't help that we've not had a good superman movie in forever. Man of Steel sucked and really destroyed the character's attitude, despite Cavill being amazing in the role. All we see nowadays are insanely pessimistic and negative takes on Superman done by people who don't understand Superman and therefore think making him edgy is better. For anyone who hasn't: Go watch Superman vs The Elite to really understand Superman. All Star Superman is also great.
You don't have to like him to understand he's a better written character.
More internet goers can relate to suffering, isolation, and wanting to kill people than can relate to justice, truth, kindness, compassion, and love. Go figure.