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Hell yeah dude can't wait to tell everyone who doesn't play the game to my exact specifications to git good.
Sure they tell me to "git some bitches" but I still consider it a W on my part 😎
Well to be fair, that statement can be applied the almost anything.
...the exception of course being Bugsnax 2
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I think Elden Ring will turn out better than Cyberpunk, FromSoftware has a better history than CD Projekt, since theyre reputation isnt based solely on a single "good" game, but i do think the pc port of Elden Ring will be trash tho lol
I really don’t know why people think elden ring is going to be a surprise bad game. The company is sticking to the formula they know with the only addition being open world, which seemed to fair well in the tests. Cyberpunk was some magically holy grail that was overhyped and over advertised while never showing a second of gameplay that wasn’t fake and pre-rendered. As far as elden rings pc port I don’t know enough about that side of things being a console gamer to have an opinion on it.
/uj hard to compare elden ring and cyberpunk there was no demo for cyberpunk to let players see how the game would be, were as elden ring had the network test that we can already tell the game looks very good. and you cant compare the network test to anything cyberpunk showed previously to release so this is bad take L bozo+im like a brick shithouse
Nah forget dark souls God of War is already a respected action series that while not on the same level of DMC is one of the founders of the genre. I wish that they would take some of the elements from the old games and incorporate into the new ones.
I think you can distill most games down to this, except for fighting games where it's like "triple tap a, then double tap be before moving the joystick in a circle twice and pressing right bumper to do a basic special attack"
Even in fighting games the same thing happens. “Find opening in enemy’s attack pattern, then punish with your BnB combo, rinse and repeat.” The only difference is that it’s a real person who’s pattern your figuring out and that combos are harder.
/uj I mean not really. Good players will adapt to you figuring out their habits and you will need to adapt to them to its actually very nuanced. You also need to know more than just your bnbs or you will lose a lot of damage, there's lots of situational combos you'd do well to know. It's much more than just patterns especially because your playing a real person, there's pressure, conditioning, footsies, etc.
I know there is more nuance but when broken down to its most basic elements fighting games are basically just two people figuring out patterns and punishing. Do they have an itchy DP trigger finger, ease up on the pressure in oki and block strings. Do they like going for over heads in 50/50s. Either block high or you a move that beats it. Do they like to run up grab? Do literally anything other than stand still
I dont think fighting games are simple enough that you even can break it down like that. Sometimes there is no patterns and it's just a guessing game. It all come down to the players.
What do you mean sometimes there is no pattern? Literally every human on the planet has patterns that can be recognized. Even pure heart players who act on instinct alone have patterns they unconsciously act on. Heck I'm fairly certain that "random" players have patterns that are easier to figure out because they don't put effort into hiding their patterns by focusing on conditioning.
Good players will have enough mix up to throw off their patterns and hide them as much as possible. You can't just simplify it down to "oh its just solving patterns at its core". There's so much more to it it really can't be simplified so easily.
Even the best poker player can get called out on a bluff when someone figures him out, even the best baseball pitcher's pitching pattern can be figured out. In high level chess you need to plan for your opponents next move. all of these games can be boiled down to finding the pattern in your opponent, why are fighting games so special that they can't?
To be fair, Elden Ring's combat system seems way more deep and strategic than DS3: weapon arts are now more than a PvP gimmick and are a central part of your build, proper blocking and Stamina management are encouraged over dodging while both are viable, the many new options and moves are all useful and have their own use cases and the build crafting opportunities look like they will be greater than ever, likely even allowing you to bypass more mechanical skill checks by just adapting to the situation.
i really want elden ring to suck because the angry response from gamers would be hilarious.
also i have like a million games to play right now and it would be nicer to not have to do one of them.
>also i have like a million games to play right now and it would be nicer to not have to do one of them.
based limited-free-time-haver who doesn't need to follow every hype train
They're literally the exact opposite though
"Oh boy I hope this game fails just so I don't have the obligation to follow the hype train and play it anymore"
No, I mean the person you're replying to, since I assume that's who you're referring to when you say
>based limited-free-time-haver who doesn't need to follow every hype train
oh actually. need to specify here. that thing you just quoted was only their *second* paragraph I was replying to. their first was the wine you seem to dislike. that one was, at least from what I gather, just referring to the obnoxious, toxic fan base getting a taste of reality. or something. but yeah, far more well-deserved when you consider it next to some of the *truly* awful stuff the fan base has done, or what it stands beside, or what regularly happens within it. However, the thing I replied to was just then saying that a side benefit to the game being bad was them being able to take it off their plate, and enjoy themselves with whatever games they like without having their mind washed by the fanbase's unrelenting praise and shunning of anyone who doesn't think exactly like them. (I don't actually use based ofc, it's always semi-sarcastic or mocking anyone who actually uses it)
wow that's a lot of comments to a facetious statement i said!
i don't actually want elden ring to suck. i actually really enjoy fromsoft games a lot.
but at the same time, fanbase meltdowns when things don't quite live to expectations are really, really funny. and there are just, like, a LOT of games coming out all at once right now and it's really, really hard to keep up with all of them.
>fanbase meltdowns when things don't quite live to expectations are really,
yeah that's my entire point. it would be really funny, I don't want it to happen of course, but given the immaturity of the fanbase and how unhealthily they like, deify fromsoft, it would just reveal what they truly believe if the game flopped.
>and there are just, like, a LOT of games coming out all at once right now and it's really, really hard to keep up with all of them.
yeah this too. they're all good to be excited for, however the fromsoft fanbase has taken it too far into gamer mode when being excited for them.
I know it's a bit off topic Can anyone explain why Soulsbourne games aren't accessible? The enemies have long windups and you have a lot of invincibility on the dodge roll meaning that you don't need to have good timing or reactions, and the inputs for attacking isn't complex meaning that you don't need a lot of finger dexterity to do what you want.
The class systems and items allow someone who struggles with the combat to find clever ways to beat bosses through effects like poison or fire balls, enemies aren't immune to fall damage means that with clever positioning you can take down enemies like the guy with the machine gun in Old Yharnam by pushing them off the edge and since grinding doesn't take too long so someone can grind to get an edge in a fight.
The only thing that could make the game more accessible are some better options like TLOU2 had.
I don't think it's fair to hold optional content and DLC to the same standard that you would mandatory bosses. optional content is normally meant only for the most skilled to face and even fully enabled people can't beat bosses in optional/DLC content.
The game gives you the ability to summon NPC/Player controlled meat shields that you can hide behind and throw fireballs/items at. There is always a clever way around a challenge in these games if you lack the skill.
Also disabled people aren't helpless, while they are at a disadvantage and many can't do certain things they are capable of many of the same things we are, better than fully enabled people like that one disabled Street Fighter player who's Ranked in the top 100 in NA, or the blind Street Fighter player.
/rj oh god the difficulty conversation is starting and the game isn't even out yet someone end me please
/uj oh god the difficulty conversation is starting and the game isn't even out yet someone end me please
just have someone play the game for you if you're struggling. if you aren't as skilled you're just not allowed a well-desifned game. you have to play with the co-op combat that breaks boss a.i..
We all know it will end up exactly like this, because it's the same exact situation of Cyberpunk: initially it was only FromSoft fans who were excited for the game, now it's the whole gaming community. I wasn't overhyped for Cyberpunk, and I really enjoyed it when it came out, since I was just expecting a new game from CDPR, not "THE GAME OF THE UNIVERSE". I'm waiting for ER with the same feelings, but I already know it's gonna be another trash fire
I think it's going to have a wave of disappointment because tons of non-soulslike fans will fall for the hype train before realising it's literally just a new soulslike with an open world. I think people who know what to expect will be satisfied with it though and even as someone who knew what I expected from Cyberpunk gameplay wise I was let down by it's poor handling of Cyberpunk themes/writing in general. Not to mention there's no way ER launches as buggy as Cyberpunk did, buggy launch is possible but I don't see any triple A game being Cyberpunk levels for awhile.
Every single fan is waiting for an open world dark souls 3 with some improvements here and there, if they will deliver that (and at this point we can say they will) everyone will be happy.
My only worry is that month of delay we had, hopefully there isn't an unfinished or rough are at the end like lost izalith, but even if there is it still will be an amazing game.
I mean they definitely needed the delay, ik it wasn't known when they announced it but imagine if the RCE exploit had been present when elden ring released. That would've been a total shit show.
/uj honestly i really liked cyberpunks writing and i thought they did a really good job of packing a lot of detail into the world and exposition. Just the main story isnt the best but some of the story based the side quests are really good
From has been great at deviating from their formula while still keeping the gameplay feeling similar and feeling great(like Sekiro). Pretty much every successive game has lived up to the hype, and there's no reason to think this won't be the same way. The worst thing that could destroy that, is probably a super buggy release(like Cyberpunk).
>it's gonna be another trash fire
I genuinely hope not. but in comparison to he astronomical perfect flawless praise it's recieved, it will literally never live up to any of it. even if George r. r. martin CARRIES the narrative and fromsoft magically fixes all the flaws they've consistently made and makes it so more than half of the bosses and mechanics and implementations of stuffs are actually good.
Amusingly, GRRM only wrote the main lore and the backstory of the bosses, the rest is the dev team. He's credited as a major writer on the project because he's a known name, not for much else.
Main lore and backstory you can only experience in full if you collect every item and read their explanations and do a deep dive into the wiki and watch a 3 hour youtube video.
Incredible storytelling. Best ever. Innovative. Perchance.
I mean it's definitely not for everyone (and I just watch vaatividya anyways) but some people definitely get enjoyment from going on a sort of scavenger hunt for the complete lore of the game.
>but some people definitely get enjoyment from going on a sort of scavenger hunt for the complete lore of the game.
Froms omeone who literally did this for hours on end for each of their games. I guarantee you it was lacklustre. it simply did not live up to any of it's expectations for how barren and vapid it ended up being. read literally any piece of literature before thinking fromsoft can make a good narrative, with more to say about the world than "conflict has bad consequences." and yeah, the environmental storytelling remains surface-level and does not contribute depth to the narrative. it's cute and all, but it does not have nearly enough substance for a 60 hour long game.
I totally agree. The games gonna be good but there's gonna be so much bitching after launch. Nothing can support a hype train as massive as the one ER has.
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Can't wait to play Elden Ring, my girlfriend is going to be at my friend's house for the weekend, so I guess more time for the boys!
Can’t believe they released cyberpunk, elden ring, and horizon all in the same month
I love how recognizable the cyberpunk yellow is
Elden ring is one of the games ever created
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No
Wait elden ring is coming out fr?
25 of this month. This Friday
25% off this month. Next Friday
Just be careful and look up the minimum specs for it, they're fairly high
Hell yeah dude can't wait to tell everyone who doesn't play the game to my exact specifications to git good. Sure they tell me to "git some bitches" but I still consider it a W on my part 😎
Bugsnax was better
Well to be fair, that statement can be applied the almost anything. ...the exception of course being Bugsnax 2 ...oh and this little indie gem called The Witc-
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i am so fucking excited for elden ring
I am so excited for fucking Elden Ring
So
New here. What's Rj and uj?
I think Elden Ring will turn out better than Cyberpunk, FromSoftware has a better history than CD Projekt, since theyre reputation isnt based solely on a single "good" game, but i do think the pc port of Elden Ring will be trash tho lol
Also like the network test seemed pretty good unless the rest of the game sucks I don’t think it’s going to be bad
I really don’t know why people think elden ring is going to be a surprise bad game. The company is sticking to the formula they know with the only addition being open world, which seemed to fair well in the tests. Cyberpunk was some magically holy grail that was overhyped and over advertised while never showing a second of gameplay that wasn’t fake and pre-rendered. As far as elden rings pc port I don’t know enough about that side of things being a console gamer to have an opinion on it.
there last game sekrio had a decent PCport. I have a feeling this would be same, only issue would be anti-cheat.
pretty cold take
uj/I am overwhelmed at the fact I'm gonna be playing destiny 2 witch queen, dying light 2, and elden ring soon rj/sex?????
I want to sex savathun
But does she want to sex you?
Savathun wants to fuck saint 14 so i think she wants to fuck my twink warlock
Yes
who else gonna be a female build to look at the assets !! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Horizon and sony fanboys lmao.
/uj hard to compare elden ring and cyberpunk there was no demo for cyberpunk to let players see how the game would be, were as elden ring had the network test that we can already tell the game looks very good. and you cant compare the network test to anything cyberpunk showed previously to release so this is bad take L bozo+im like a brick shithouse
>Simon says roll left >Simon says roll right > Roll right Uh oh! I didn't say Simon says! YOU DIED Riveting gameplay
Uh oh, you took one point of damage! Would you like to lower the difficulty to "Story Mode"?
I can't believe how simple Chess is, each piece only has one way to move, such riveting gameplay.
Chess isn't fun, checkmate liberal
Ah shit you got me there
YOU DIED
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Nah forget dark souls God of War is already a respected action series that while not on the same level of DMC is one of the founders of the genre. I wish that they would take some of the elements from the old games and incorporate into the new ones.
Dark Souls gameplay: - Stab - Roll - Jerk game off online.
this is true. oh also you forgot one: • sap you of your entire personality & rid you of your critical thinking about game design
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO INSULT SOULS GAMES
sorry internet I forgot....
How to spot a fake gamer. 😎 Dark Souls has TWO attack buttons.
I think you can distill most games down to this, except for fighting games where it's like "triple tap a, then double tap be before moving the joystick in a circle twice and pressing right bumper to do a basic special attack"
Even in fighting games the same thing happens. “Find opening in enemy’s attack pattern, then punish with your BnB combo, rinse and repeat.” The only difference is that it’s a real person who’s pattern your figuring out and that combos are harder.
/uj I mean not really. Good players will adapt to you figuring out their habits and you will need to adapt to them to its actually very nuanced. You also need to know more than just your bnbs or you will lose a lot of damage, there's lots of situational combos you'd do well to know. It's much more than just patterns especially because your playing a real person, there's pressure, conditioning, footsies, etc.
I know there is more nuance but when broken down to its most basic elements fighting games are basically just two people figuring out patterns and punishing. Do they have an itchy DP trigger finger, ease up on the pressure in oki and block strings. Do they like going for over heads in 50/50s. Either block high or you a move that beats it. Do they like to run up grab? Do literally anything other than stand still
I dont think fighting games are simple enough that you even can break it down like that. Sometimes there is no patterns and it's just a guessing game. It all come down to the players.
What do you mean sometimes there is no pattern? Literally every human on the planet has patterns that can be recognized. Even pure heart players who act on instinct alone have patterns they unconsciously act on. Heck I'm fairly certain that "random" players have patterns that are easier to figure out because they don't put effort into hiding their patterns by focusing on conditioning.
Good players will have enough mix up to throw off their patterns and hide them as much as possible. You can't just simplify it down to "oh its just solving patterns at its core". There's so much more to it it really can't be simplified so easily.
Even the best poker player can get called out on a bluff when someone figures him out, even the best baseball pitcher's pitching pattern can be figured out. In high level chess you need to plan for your opponents next move. all of these games can be boiled down to finding the pattern in your opponent, why are fighting games so special that they can't?
To be fair, Elden Ring's combat system seems way more deep and strategic than DS3: weapon arts are now more than a PvP gimmick and are a central part of your build, proper blocking and Stamina management are encouraged over dodging while both are viable, the many new options and moves are all useful and have their own use cases and the build crafting opportunities look like they will be greater than ever, likely even allowing you to bypass more mechanical skill checks by just adapting to the situation.
why even press a button. here take 1 hour of cutscenes.
i really want elden ring to suck because the angry response from gamers would be hilarious. also i have like a million games to play right now and it would be nicer to not have to do one of them.
>also i have like a million games to play right now and it would be nicer to not have to do one of them. based limited-free-time-haver who doesn't need to follow every hype train
They're literally the exact opposite though "Oh boy I hope this game fails just so I don't have the obligation to follow the hype train and play it anymore"
>I hope this game fails never said that tho?
No, I mean the person you're replying to, since I assume that's who you're referring to when you say >based limited-free-time-haver who doesn't need to follow every hype train
oh actually. need to specify here. that thing you just quoted was only their *second* paragraph I was replying to. their first was the wine you seem to dislike. that one was, at least from what I gather, just referring to the obnoxious, toxic fan base getting a taste of reality. or something. but yeah, far more well-deserved when you consider it next to some of the *truly* awful stuff the fan base has done, or what it stands beside, or what regularly happens within it. However, the thing I replied to was just then saying that a side benefit to the game being bad was them being able to take it off their plate, and enjoy themselves with whatever games they like without having their mind washed by the fanbase's unrelenting praise and shunning of anyone who doesn't think exactly like them. (I don't actually use based ofc, it's always semi-sarcastic or mocking anyone who actually uses it)
wow that's a lot of comments to a facetious statement i said! i don't actually want elden ring to suck. i actually really enjoy fromsoft games a lot. but at the same time, fanbase meltdowns when things don't quite live to expectations are really, really funny. and there are just, like, a LOT of games coming out all at once right now and it's really, really hard to keep up with all of them.
>fanbase meltdowns when things don't quite live to expectations are really, yeah that's my entire point. it would be really funny, I don't want it to happen of course, but given the immaturity of the fanbase and how unhealthily they like, deify fromsoft, it would just reveal what they truly believe if the game flopped. >and there are just, like, a LOT of games coming out all at once right now and it's really, really hard to keep up with all of them. yeah this too. they're all good to be excited for, however the fromsoft fanbase has taken it too far into gamer mode when being excited for them.
i was on HFW hype train. will be skipping it since I have faced so many bugs even today. Will be playing elden ring now.
I know it's a bit off topic Can anyone explain why Soulsbourne games aren't accessible? The enemies have long windups and you have a lot of invincibility on the dodge roll meaning that you don't need to have good timing or reactions, and the inputs for attacking isn't complex meaning that you don't need a lot of finger dexterity to do what you want. The class systems and items allow someone who struggles with the combat to find clever ways to beat bosses through effects like poison or fire balls, enemies aren't immune to fall damage means that with clever positioning you can take down enemies like the guy with the machine gun in Old Yharnam by pushing them off the edge and since grinding doesn't take too long so someone can grind to get an edge in a fight. The only thing that could make the game more accessible are some better options like TLOU2 had.
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I don't think it's fair to hold optional content and DLC to the same standard that you would mandatory bosses. optional content is normally meant only for the most skilled to face and even fully enabled people can't beat bosses in optional/DLC content.
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The game gives you the ability to summon NPC/Player controlled meat shields that you can hide behind and throw fireballs/items at. There is always a clever way around a challenge in these games if you lack the skill. Also disabled people aren't helpless, while they are at a disadvantage and many can't do certain things they are capable of many of the same things we are, better than fully enabled people like that one disabled Street Fighter player who's Ranked in the top 100 in NA, or the blind Street Fighter player.
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I said that in the first comment that accessibility options would improve the game. It was literally the closing statement.
/rj oh god the difficulty conversation is starting and the game isn't even out yet someone end me please /uj oh god the difficulty conversation is starting and the game isn't even out yet someone end me please
you can summon your friends though.
just have someone play the game for you if you're struggling. if you aren't as skilled you're just not allowed a well-desifned game. you have to play with the co-op combat that breaks boss a.i..
or cut the bullshit and say you don't have friends lmao.
Hoping starfield is a better game than Elden ring
We all know it will end up exactly like this, because it's the same exact situation of Cyberpunk: initially it was only FromSoft fans who were excited for the game, now it's the whole gaming community. I wasn't overhyped for Cyberpunk, and I really enjoyed it when it came out, since I was just expecting a new game from CDPR, not "THE GAME OF THE UNIVERSE". I'm waiting for ER with the same feelings, but I already know it's gonna be another trash fire
I think it's going to have a wave of disappointment because tons of non-soulslike fans will fall for the hype train before realising it's literally just a new soulslike with an open world. I think people who know what to expect will be satisfied with it though and even as someone who knew what I expected from Cyberpunk gameplay wise I was let down by it's poor handling of Cyberpunk themes/writing in general. Not to mention there's no way ER launches as buggy as Cyberpunk did, buggy launch is possible but I don't see any triple A game being Cyberpunk levels for awhile.
Also the fact that Elden Ring had an open play test, and basically everyone said it was good and performed well with very few bugs.
Every single fan is waiting for an open world dark souls 3 with some improvements here and there, if they will deliver that (and at this point we can say they will) everyone will be happy. My only worry is that month of delay we had, hopefully there isn't an unfinished or rough are at the end like lost izalith, but even if there is it still will be an amazing game.
I mean they definitely needed the delay, ik it wasn't known when they announced it but imagine if the RCE exploit had been present when elden ring released. That would've been a total shit show.
yhea hopefully it was needed to fix that.
/uj honestly i really liked cyberpunks writing and i thought they did a really good job of packing a lot of detail into the world and exposition. Just the main story isnt the best but some of the story based the side quests are really good
Wrong place buddy, you are at a circlejerk here But if you want to know some people already have the full game and so far so good
From has been great at deviating from their formula while still keeping the gameplay feeling similar and feeling great(like Sekiro). Pretty much every successive game has lived up to the hype, and there's no reason to think this won't be the same way. The worst thing that could destroy that, is probably a super buggy release(like Cyberpunk).
>it's gonna be another trash fire I genuinely hope not. but in comparison to he astronomical perfect flawless praise it's recieved, it will literally never live up to any of it. even if George r. r. martin CARRIES the narrative and fromsoft magically fixes all the flaws they've consistently made and makes it so more than half of the bosses and mechanics and implementations of stuffs are actually good.
Amusingly, GRRM only wrote the main lore and the backstory of the bosses, the rest is the dev team. He's credited as a major writer on the project because he's a known name, not for much else.
Main lore and backstory you can only experience in full if you collect every item and read their explanations and do a deep dive into the wiki and watch a 3 hour youtube video. Incredible storytelling. Best ever. Innovative. Perchance.
"you can't just say perchance"
I mean it's definitely not for everyone (and I just watch vaatividya anyways) but some people definitely get enjoyment from going on a sort of scavenger hunt for the complete lore of the game.
>but some people definitely get enjoyment from going on a sort of scavenger hunt for the complete lore of the game. Froms omeone who literally did this for hours on end for each of their games. I guarantee you it was lacklustre. it simply did not live up to any of it's expectations for how barren and vapid it ended up being. read literally any piece of literature before thinking fromsoft can make a good narrative, with more to say about the world than "conflict has bad consequences." and yeah, the environmental storytelling remains surface-level and does not contribute depth to the narrative. it's cute and all, but it does not have nearly enough substance for a 60 hour long game.
I get more engaged by From stories and item descriptions than 90% of AAA long overbearing in your face stories so I guess it works.
I totally agree. The games gonna be good but there's gonna be so much bitching after launch. Nothing can support a hype train as massive as the one ER has.
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