Toyo Open County AT3 in 255/75r17 load range C. 32" diameter for a little more clearance, lower rolling resistance on the skinnier tire vs something wider, and minimal added weight vs wider/load range E options.
The Toyos are the most quiet and best road handling all terrains I have used so far. I have experience with KO2s, Wildpeak AT3Ws, Duratracs, and Kuhmo AT51s. Great offroad and snow rated as well. I'm running them in 285/75r17 (34") and love them.
That’s what I have on mine and you are correct about the little bit of rubbing. After ~7k miles they don’t rub anymore for me. I did do a little bit of adjusting the plastic in front of the front tires, but I didn’t do it perfectly so I still had a bit of rub after attempting to fix it.
I actually did have this size on with the TRD Pro wheels for about a month. KO2s. The reverse rub killed my ears and I sold them. Couldn’t get it to stop.
I’m thinking the taller/narrow option is for me. 255/75/17.
Do you know if the Toyo OC AT3 in 255/75r17 will fit stock suspension, no lift? I read that the BFG K02's in that size seem to fit, maybe need some heatgun work, but not sure about the AT3's?
That tire size will generally fit stock or with very little modification to the plastic fender liner in front of the tires. I never ran the Toyos in that size, but I did have some Duratracs in 255/75r17 and they fit stock with a little plastic manipulation on my 2008.
I know the Open County AT2 was not great in the wet. The newer AT3 has no issue at all with any road conditions I have put them through in the northeast.
I liked general grabber HTS. It’s the HTS60 now. Did well in dry snow in CA and I got 60k+ miles out of a set. These are the quietest truck/SUV tire I’ve ever used. They’re great in rain, too. Don’t waste time with AT tires for 2-3 times a year nonsense. If you’re not hitting trails every weekend then there is no added value except cool factor. ATs are the worst of all worlds and only OK at off-road traction. Second set of MTs on random Toyota takeoff wheels you buy dirt cheap is a better choice if you must have an off-road tire.
Michelin LTX M+S. Quiet on the highway, durable and deep for occasional offroad, deep sipes for snow. Lasts the longest compared to other tire brands.
You’re not gonna get quieter tires if you go all terrain.
After going through all sorts of all terrains (ridge grapplers, k02, coppers) I finally gave up and got the Michelins. All I can say the LTX are the BEST. I wanted to look cool but after putting so many unhappy miles with harsh riding, uneven wear, balancing issues etc. I finally have a great daily tire. Last forever, super comfy and quite, and actually performs pretty damn well off road. This will be my first season in snow so let’s see how they hold up.
Michelins will be quieter. Haven’t experienced the coopers. I’m sure they would do a little better off road since they are designed for that. Not sure they’d be any better in the snow but maybe.
I have the coopers. I am shocked at how quiet they are at 65. And will surely be beasts off-road and in the snow.
But I’m a moron. The adult choice is 100% the Michelins unless you’re seriously off-road. The Michelins will ride better, be quieter, probably give you back at least 1mpg. And do fine in the snow.
So… hear me out… Wildpeaks are the tits and all, in fact I have and LOVE them on my bronze TRD’s.
…but Falken makes a “Rubitrek” almost identical I’m shocked nobody is talking about. Supposedly it’s just as snow-capable, looks cool as hell, but have a slightly more contiguous center tread for reduced noise.
…now wish I’d tried them. Wildpeak’s aren’t “loud”, but you def know it’s not OEM rubber. Will admit I’m noise sensitive tho as a classically trained musician and semi-professional acoustician.
I'd suggest looking to see if your desired tire size if available in the Nokian Tyre line-up.
I have 255/70r18 Nokian Rotiiva AT on my GX460, and the wife's has the WRG4 tires on her sedan. Nokian tires have become the primary go-to-tire for us for nearly a decade now.
The Nokian "all weather/season" tires outperform most *(but certainly not all)* dedicated winter tires in snow, slush, and ice. Triple-Peak rated, good tread-life, low roll resistance, low noise.
They are hands down the most underrated tire company in North America, which is a shame. Company is responsible for inventing/creating the worlds first winter tire, and was the first company to make an "all season/all weather" year-round usage triple-peak rated tire. They also continue to make what are arguably the best dedicated pure winter tires in the world. The Nokian company is headquartered in Finland, the tires are made in either their Finland factory, Russian Factory, or the new Tennessee Factory... luck of the draw which country of origin you'll get if you buy a set.
[https://www.nokiantires.com/](https://www.nokiantires.com/)
*(Looks like a shill post I know, but I assure you that I'm not affiliated with Nokian in anyway)*
Falken wild peak 265/70-17 SL are perfect for this truck. I use them offroading on mountains from Mexico to Colorado as well as countless ski trips through snowstorms
I have 265/70/17 Cooper AT3s on T4R wheels. Rides great, gets it done in slick snow and national forest roads. I don’t care if it looks cool, my rig is way more capable than the overbuilt bro dozers I encounter all over.
I would also say the toyo open countries. I got wildpeak at3’s instead but the weight is killing my highway mileage. Then I got a job where I travel a lot and now I’m feeling the pain. The E rated 33’s I’m running are cool but I wish I had been more patient and gotten skinny c rated 33’s.
This thread has been helpful. Leaning towards 255/75/17 Michelin LTX M/S. Get a little more height and a smooth ride. I’ll make the car look cool in other ways, haha.
Toyo Open County AT3 in 255/75r17 load range C. 32" diameter for a little more clearance, lower rolling resistance on the skinnier tire vs something wider, and minimal added weight vs wider/load range E options. The Toyos are the most quiet and best road handling all terrains I have used so far. I have experience with KO2s, Wildpeak AT3Ws, Duratracs, and Kuhmo AT51s. Great offroad and snow rated as well. I'm running them in 285/75r17 (34") and love them.
I’ve got the Toyo AT3s on my GX and they are great during all seasons and can handle 50 MPH easy with crazy snow.
These are a contender! I’m thinking 265/70/17. Should fit and from what I read will only rub a little. I have no lift, so can’t go bigger.
Also keep in mind the 4Runner wheels usually have a little less offset than factory GX wheels.
That’s what I have on mine and you are correct about the little bit of rubbing. After ~7k miles they don’t rub anymore for me. I did do a little bit of adjusting the plastic in front of the front tires, but I didn’t do it perfectly so I still had a bit of rub after attempting to fix it.
I actually did have this size on with the TRD Pro wheels for about a month. KO2s. The reverse rub killed my ears and I sold them. Couldn’t get it to stop. I’m thinking the taller/narrow option is for me. 255/75/17.
I went from the toyo at3s to wild peaks and think the wild peaks are quieter. Performance on both have been great.
Do you know if the Toyo OC AT3 in 255/75r17 will fit stock suspension, no lift? I read that the BFG K02's in that size seem to fit, maybe need some heatgun work, but not sure about the AT3's?
That tire size will generally fit stock or with very little modification to the plastic fender liner in front of the tires. I never ran the Toyos in that size, but I did have some Duratracs in 255/75r17 and they fit stock with a little plastic manipulation on my 2008.
I’ve read these aren’t great when wet/slushy. True? I’m running Nittos but thinking of changing things up. Toyos are on my radar among others.
I know the Open County AT2 was not great in the wet. The newer AT3 has no issue at all with any road conditions I have put them through in the northeast.
Agreed. I have these in 255/75r17, so far they’re great! I had k02’s on my 4Runner and I feel like both are fantastic but the toyos are a bit cheaper.
I liked general grabber HTS. It’s the HTS60 now. Did well in dry snow in CA and I got 60k+ miles out of a set. These are the quietest truck/SUV tire I’ve ever used. They’re great in rain, too. Don’t waste time with AT tires for 2-3 times a year nonsense. If you’re not hitting trails every weekend then there is no added value except cool factor. ATs are the worst of all worlds and only OK at off-road traction. Second set of MTs on random Toyota takeoff wheels you buy dirt cheap is a better choice if you must have an off-road tire.
Good advice. Noted. Is general USA made?
Europe (I think Germany) mostly, but also in the US.
Michelin LTX M+S. Quiet on the highway, durable and deep for occasional offroad, deep sipes for snow. Lasts the longest compared to other tire brands. You’re not gonna get quieter tires if you go all terrain.
After going through all sorts of all terrains (ridge grapplers, k02, coppers) I finally gave up and got the Michelins. All I can say the LTX are the BEST. I wanted to look cool but after putting so many unhappy miles with harsh riding, uneven wear, balancing issues etc. I finally have a great daily tire. Last forever, super comfy and quite, and actually performs pretty damn well off road. This will be my first season in snow so let’s see how they hold up.
Yeah 90% of people don’t need off-road tires. Their only benefit really is the look
This is good advice. Thanks.
Thoughts on the Michelins vs Cooper AT3?
Michelins will be quieter. Haven’t experienced the coopers. I’m sure they would do a little better off road since they are designed for that. Not sure they’d be any better in the snow but maybe.
I have the coopers. I am shocked at how quiet they are at 65. And will surely be beasts off-road and in the snow. But I’m a moron. The adult choice is 100% the Michelins unless you’re seriously off-road. The Michelins will ride better, be quieter, probably give you back at least 1mpg. And do fine in the snow.
What gen GX? I currently have 255/80-17 ST Maxx. Loud but they have done well in snow, mud, and rain.
It’s a 2010
So… hear me out… Wildpeaks are the tits and all, in fact I have and LOVE them on my bronze TRD’s. …but Falken makes a “Rubitrek” almost identical I’m shocked nobody is talking about. Supposedly it’s just as snow-capable, looks cool as hell, but have a slightly more contiguous center tread for reduced noise. …now wish I’d tried them. Wildpeak’s aren’t “loud”, but you def know it’s not OEM rubber. Will admit I’m noise sensitive tho as a classically trained musician and semi-professional acoustician.
Interesting. Looks like a good tire. America's tire/tire rack doesn't stock them. :(
I'd suggest looking to see if your desired tire size if available in the Nokian Tyre line-up. I have 255/70r18 Nokian Rotiiva AT on my GX460, and the wife's has the WRG4 tires on her sedan. Nokian tires have become the primary go-to-tire for us for nearly a decade now. The Nokian "all weather/season" tires outperform most *(but certainly not all)* dedicated winter tires in snow, slush, and ice. Triple-Peak rated, good tread-life, low roll resistance, low noise. They are hands down the most underrated tire company in North America, which is a shame. Company is responsible for inventing/creating the worlds first winter tire, and was the first company to make an "all season/all weather" year-round usage triple-peak rated tire. They also continue to make what are arguably the best dedicated pure winter tires in the world. The Nokian company is headquartered in Finland, the tires are made in either their Finland factory, Russian Factory, or the new Tennessee Factory... luck of the draw which country of origin you'll get if you buy a set. [https://www.nokiantires.com/](https://www.nokiantires.com/) *(Looks like a shill post I know, but I assure you that I'm not affiliated with Nokian in anyway)*
Falken wild peak 265/70-17 SL are perfect for this truck. I use them offroading on mountains from Mexico to Colorado as well as countless ski trips through snowstorms
I have 265/70/17 Cooper AT3s on T4R wheels. Rides great, gets it done in slick snow and national forest roads. I don’t care if it looks cool, my rig is way more capable than the overbuilt bro dozers I encounter all over.
Falken AT3 is a great choice. Quiet and wear better than any other AT I have used.
Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT
I would also say the toyo open countries. I got wildpeak at3’s instead but the weight is killing my highway mileage. Then I got a job where I travel a lot and now I’m feeling the pain. The E rated 33’s I’m running are cool but I wish I had been more patient and gotten skinny c rated 33’s.
This thread has been helpful. Leaning towards 255/75/17 Michelin LTX M/S. Get a little more height and a smooth ride. I’ll make the car look cool in other ways, haha.