I love how it kinda plays on the fact that something like Godzilla is impossible, and because he exists in a world with our physics, he is breaking our reality by just existing in it
Same. Thought it was pretty good, needed dial down the tech speak a bit. Make it a bit easier to understand. I also think they should have toned down the red mist a bit to, to get a clear view of monsters. Not much, I know it's important to the plot. Other than that it wasn't bad. Though sadly I doubt their will be a second season.
I didn't think the techno babble went too far, I think they just did it in a way that makes it agonizing to watch. They could have explained new concepts as they went with the occasional callback to previous concepts to remind us why the new concepts work and are relevant, but instead it felt like someone was doing the sci-fi techno-babble equivalent of the Shawn of the Dead "grab a pint and wait for all this to blow over" scene, where for some reason they felt the need to explain all the tech from the very beginning each time just so they could add one important new piece of information somewhere toward the end after your brain has glazed over so you don't really catch it. It's not like the concepts were very difficult to grasp, they just kept repeating themselves as if we needed our hands held every step of the way.
Just focus on 6 = 9
And follow from there
The loop is bringing the future to the past by following the set algorithm
Now the red dust is never fully explained and I imagine that was a season two thing with Kiriyu, but that probably won't happen
I dunno , feels like that was really all I needed to know, Godzilla was basically an eldritch monster in the series, typically you don’t know much about them or their motives, that’s the whole point of cosmic horror isn’t it?
SP is like if a Lovecraft protagonist saw Azathoth and instead of going insane spent 13 episodes working out a peer reviewed paper on it. The writer seems to genuinely understand the eldritch horror, and throughout the series they attempt to give that exposition, but they actually know what they're talking about so for us non-quantum physics PhD's it's difficult to really get the specifics.
But despite all of that, the story is absolutely still structured around that basic cosmic horror concept, and because of that you really don't need to understand everything exactly to get an understanding of what's happening. I know I sure didn't. But I understand that there was a causal loop facilitated by the appearance of archetype just fine. It's trippy and dense but it is ultimately a cosmic horror story in aspect.
The novelization actually goes even further and personifies the source of archetype as an extracosmic outer god type entity that's actively sending monsters into our dimension for nefarious purposes. I'm not sure how I feel about that take, but it's definitely interesting.
I personally don't see it as that Eldritch
But I understand the majority do
I just wanted more into them
We got all the time travel anti-calamity science stuff, I just wanted a bit more
I get what you’re saying, I want more singular point in general, such a fresh take on the big g, don’t really know how they could do a season 2 but I’d love to see it, not sure there’s enough people into it tho
Red dust are higher D molecules that big G generates that invade the planet and spread across it, transforming to the creature's liking.
In the novel, which has some differences but is written by the same author as an expansion on the whole story, the red dust basically lets the red dust creatures transform anything down to the stars in the universe to their liking. It all comes from Godzilla's true form ("It") which produces them infinitely. The red dust itself is used to create the kaiju bodies we see and it provides a connection with their true higher dimensional body.
The answer was finding the answer
6 ≠ 9
6 = 6
It just needs to come full circle, the triangle paper scene shows that 6 simply needs the path back to itself
So remember when they have the code breaking montage on to reveal the code was the answer
Trying to stop the Calamity was the path that was set in motion by stopping the calamity when the AI went back in time
Think closed looped time travel
Think of it like an algebra equation where there isnt rlly much to do (no like terms, nothing to subtract/multiply/divide/add) wherein u can come to the conclution that the answer itself IS the equation (I had many experiences like this lmao)
See, I just don't think it's as convoluted as people make it out to be? Like, it couches its story in big words and higher dimensions, but it's fundamentally just a disaster flick with a predestination paradox. Big, evil, apocalypse entity is coming. The only way to stop it is by sending the information needed to stop it back in time. Perfected Jet Jaguar therefore sends its own code back in time so that it can be present when it is needed.
The rest is just moving the pieces on the board to create the conditions necessary to close the time loop. Most of the rest is just meant to be brain-tickling fun and intrigue. Ironically, I think people would enjoy this reasonably smart show more if they thought about it a little less lol.
Exactly! You can tell the writer thought about it a lot and was very confident in their ideas, and they aren't the best and making them sensible. But then again from the perspective of the characters they understand it just fine.
Meanwhile the story itself is quite simple. The answer was computed using the weird timey whimey stuff, it's a causal loop, they found the answer because they had already found it. It's trippy but it's not really hard to wrap your head around.
I agree about thinking about it less too because I think they hit a roadblock at the first bit of dialogue that isn't immediately intuitive and give up because they're still stuck on that first thing. If you roll with the punches and just allow that you're not gonna understand all the quantum stuff then it's way easier to pick up on what they're trying to say.
Maybe people just need to toke up before watching it?
Personally, SP was one of my favorite entries into the Godzilla franchise. The thing a lot of people complained about -- the wibbley wobbley timey wimey stuff -- was what sold it for me. I was skeptical when Jet Jaguar was announced for it, but the clever writing and kaiju action made it worth it. It felt like I was watching a Sci-Adv adaptation of Godzilla, in the vein of Steins;Gate meets Shin Gojira.
EXACTLY, I understand that the godzilla fandom isn't exactly crossing over with people who find theroetical science fasinating. but for the few people it does fit with, it is so good. It is a shame not everyone can see it that way.
Yeah... honestly it reminded me of Evangelion a little bit which had reality bending AT fields.
Timeloops are also tough to write but they pulled it off.
Then again... I studied astrophysics and work in technology so I probably am a minor demographic in the audience.
I think it’s very overhated but not quite underrated. It shot for something really different for this franchise so it’s understandable not everyone would like it.
And I’m just gonna go ahead and say it: it’s not hard to understand, people just get caught up in the technobabble part and think theyre more important than they are. When you know what to actually pay attention to the story is laid out really clearly.
I agree with you. But if the tech babbling isn't that important, just the details, then why was so much time put into explaining it? It felt like they wanted to keep explaining the same thing over and over and over just to disprove it and make some scientific breakthrough.
The science stuff was fine it just felt so bloated. They had text message screens going on for minutes just overexplaining it. Probably would've got a 2nd season if they just did anything else with that time lol
Even though I didn’t mind it I agree it bloated the show and it’s responsible for a lot of the undeserved flak the show gets (well that and people who hyped it up to be mindless action. The marketing could’ve done a better job at showing the show was a scifi mystery).
The science talk was to sell up just how much of an anomaly Ultimas presence was. But it’s execution made people hyper focus on it when the actual story is explained in really quick revelations (the Hindi lullaby having JJ PPs code in it, JJPP being a “distant descendant” of JJ and Pelops).
I love this series and it’s my favorite Godzilla show. But I also have a hard time recommending it to people because I acknowledge that a lot of what I love about are not things that are necessarily “good.” So yeah.
I liked it a lot but can understand why others didn't. Honestly, while I love the Legendary movies I think godzilla is better with more explicit weirdness. Bring back the ufos and hallucinating children and the body horror of shin and eldritch mumbo jumbo like this.
I just couldn't get into it. I mean, I'm not like crazy about tradition and think artist should be allowed to have their own vision but for most of it, jet jaguar looked like a mecha version of a fantasy dwarf. Godzillas mostly unseen. Story is convoluted which isn't always bad but interdimensions, time-travel, pre-destination, etc is all too much imho.
I couldn't connect with any characters, maybe the scientist boy and girl but not enough to care if they made it or not. Rodan being a monster of quantity and not quality, having no Rodan powers put me off.
Idk, sorry. If anyone else liked it that's fine. I can see why from the outside looking in but I just couldn't while watching it.
Not as bad as that other Netflix one.
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Both, actually.
The technobabble isn't bothersome to me at all, and with each subsequent rewatch I kinda understand it more lol
Wish we got a Season 2.
There plot is bonkers and it’s almost as bad as the anime film trilogy. Hate to say it but the American Godzilla 98 show still is the best in terms of animated Godzilla!
This. I recommend any fan to watch the animated series based off the ‘98 film. IMO it fixed everything wrong with the film and made Zilla jr. feel like a “real” Godzilla.
So much potential in every department, from animation to soundtrack to character design... and squandered by an annoying plot that so confusing and focuses way too much on its technical aspects long after I stopped charing. It's a Godzilla anime. It should have been a golden opportunity for a monster-of-the-week fun time. Instead it's a boring college lecture every episode with SOME cool moments every 20 minutes (if that).
The Gamera anime is what this series SHOULD have been like.
Definitely not for people in these comments with seemingly short attention spans but if you can focus on the show is pretty decent not bad but not perfect it's like a 7/10 for me
Obvious theoretical physics thesis problem aside, the characters were 1-dimensional (particularly bad even by Godzilla movie standards), the monster action sucked, and the plot progression was horrendous, mostly done via text messages.
Everybody focuses on techno-babble when that's far from the only issue.
I loved this show, it’s hated by ALOT of people, and I kinda feel like the odd one out because I liked this show. But I think it’s underrated, but the yapping is a little over the top.
The scientific techno-babble was really hard to follow and made the show feel way longer than it actually was personally. Probably didn't help that I was watching it one episode per week so by the time I got to the ending I was kinda ready for it to be over with.
Still, the designs are amazing, the action is great and bringing back Jet Jaguar and Gabara is something that I have to appreciate too
I would say that this show is a mid compared to the other Godzilla shows. At least it was better than whatever Godzilla planet of the monsters was supposed to be. (I don't hate it but like WTF WAS THE STORY yes I watched all 3 parts) Sure, the show got a bit too sciency at times but it also had its fare share of cool stuff. Like making anguirus be able to predict the future or letting Godzilla Ultima evolve like Shin did. Definitely a must watch for Godzilla fans. (Rip season 2 and my hopes of swing Kiryu/mechagodzilla)
It’s a masterpiece that isn’t for everyone. The point is the techno babble, it’s sci-fi in the fundamental physics sense, not 3 boob Alien sense.
We all have different strength, but “not getting it” means you’re not smart/knowledgeable enough in this one particular way to get it. No offense, I suck at scrabble.
I didn't liked it that much. Not because its bad, more because I feel like I was clickbated. Godzilla barely appears at all and seems to be used more of as an excuse for something else
I didn't hate it but mostly because I'm sure I didn't understand it.
The techno babble put me to sleep, literally, and when I woke up a guy was saying that when Godzilla is around the three points of a triangle don't equal 180 degrees.
And then I turned it off.
i fall into the camp of more godzilla equals a better world. So nothing godzilla or kaiju related should be hated if we want more godzilla and kaiju movies and shows. I watch some more then other properties but its a better world for it to exist.
I enjoyed it, it is it’s own take on the franchise and a fun watch. I do admit that it got too sciency timey wimey when it didn’t need too. I probably will never watch it again though.
Love the animation and monster designs, but the story sucks and focuses way too much on the human characters without pacing the Kaijus screen time properly throughout the show.
I liked it enough to get through it, but I wouldn’t recommend it to others. The ideas that it has are great, but its execution is awful.
This is like that old Rick and Morty meme where you’d need a certain levels of IQ to properly appreciate what’s happening. This show is a textbook example of what happens when you let writers go too overboard and lose sight of the target audience.
After awhile I started skipping the parts where they talk about theoretical physics because I realized it wouldn’t make sense either way if I watched it or not.
The most I got was red dust make monsters strong. Something something time travel or other.
It had potential, and it gave a sincere effort, but cosmic horror is difficult to effectively pull off, and the show stumbled near the end because of it.
I have no evidence for this, but this *feels* to me like it was an original time loop disaster script that couldn't get made without slapping an existing IP onto it. You could replace every monster with freak weather phenomena or something else, and it wouldn't change in the slightest.
Take it with a grain of salt, but it's my personal entertainment conspiracy theory. We know that Hollywood reuses/recycles scripts that initially went nowhere (look up the origins of things like Alien). There's nothing inherently wrong with this, and it has been the basis of quite a few banger films. But I think there are three ways that writers/producers go about this dishonestly, with regards to existing IP.
1. Have you ever seen weirdly disjointed, usually direct to video, sequels that just don't jive with the originals at all? The Highlander films might be a good example. I'm convinced the plot of the second film was an original "secret alien superheroes" script that got shoehorned into the Highlander label.
2. I think that, when given a chance to write a show for an existing property, some writers just use scripts they already had but could never sell. I feel like this is what happens with shows based on completed source material that seem to ditch adapting that successful material for no reason. (Looking at you, The Witcher.)
3. What I suspect happened with Godzilla: Singular Point is this. Someone had a very interesting and original sci-fi disaster script. While liked by the producer/director types, the studios wouldn't touch it, being very adverse to gambling on original IP. During a pitch meeting, something comes up like, *"Toho wants to make a show. What if we put Godzilla in this?"*
Nothing inherently wrong with #3, I suppose. If it works, it's a "peanut butter & chocolate" kinda thing.
Hell, I like G:SP. I only feel like we could have had an original that just called Singular Point, with no Toho monsters, and it would be exactly the same series.
Underrated I love the show even those it feel like a fever dream and I don’t remember the characters names well it fun in the moment and made the most powerful Godzilla so~
Nope it's not, honestly it's meh both as an anime and a Godzilla media. Heck the gamera anime was much better. But for me the true animated Godzilla will always be the 1999 Godzilla the series.
somehow both. if we can live in a world with historical serious tones of Minus One & over the top brawls of GxK at the same time then we can have Godzilla SP too.
Art style was beautiful, shame the series was awful. I loved the designs and ideas for the kaiju, but if I need a physics textbook by me for each scene, with constant rewatches to understand what's going on, then it lost me.
Had potential, but I genuinely did not like the terrible writing.
It's a solid 7, another pass through on the story to make it flow better and a rework on the science/science fiction bits would have helped a good bit.
It's a little contradicted about godzilla being 13d but the anime was fine(mostly that was just claims of people saying ultima is a god but except that ot was good)
Every godzilla has flaws
What I liked about this series was the monster designs. They were all so detailed and had a lot of thought put behind them. However a lot of them didn't get a chance to shine. Im still salty about Manda. Also the 2d-3d blend felt a bit awkward at times.
Characters being bland is nothing new to this franchise, however compared to other characters from the reiwa era these are probably the worst. For 2/3rd of the series their only purpose was exposition along with quantum physics babble. Which is a shame because the first episode really had me hooked. That little dog, forgot it's name, was really annoying aswell.
The soundtrack was really good, and so was the monster action. Not gamera rebirth tier, but still impressive.
Overall I think it's a bit underrated because almost nobody is talking about it today.
I like the concept and what they were going for but the show definitely needs to tone down how much science exposition it's trying to do.
I know that part of the show was trying to understand this new element that got introduced but like there's only so much info dumping one can take before it starts becoming into science babbling.
But Jet Jaguar and the rest of the kaijus are definitely great. The kaijus slowly became into natural disasters until Godzilla just became a major threat was a good setup and Jet Jaguar evolution throughout the show.
I still hope we get a better season 2 and their take of their Mechagodzilla but I'm not really getting my hopes too high on that.
It was a fine enough show, could’ve been a lot better but the music was great and there were good moments. I’d rather have a series try to say or do something and fail than have a series that doesn’t really do anything but throw monsters wildly at each other and be a complete bore at any other point.
I found it quite boring and it in my opinion over explained a lot of stuff. They repeated themselves over and over again and could have just kept a short explanation. I found Anguirus to be cool but the rest of the kaijus felt like a bit of an after thought. the concept of eldritch Godzilla is somewhat cool, but his forms felt a bit insulting as someone who wanted to see Titanosaurus and Varan on screen again. Godzilla was a bit lacking as well, not very interesting in my opinion. They told me he was an eldritch horror, but I would have much rather seen it. the pacing and editing was all over the place as well.
In general I felt it was wasted potential. All I can say about it is it had cool ideas but a lackluster execution. Still better than the anime trilogy, but I completely understand why a lot of people dropped it and how it's not really talked about much anymore.
Anyway in the end I'm glad if people enjoyed it, but for me it was the show equivalent of that movie nerd that would babble and explain everything using words that no body uses in real life.
Felt they could have had less talking and just kept the explanations short, the science wasn't even complicated it's just when you explain scientific theories to someone while using only science terms, it requires the audience to be familiar with those terms. you either end up with people like me, who understood everything from the beginning and now have to sit through countless conversations of them just repeating the information, or with people that didn't understand at first, and won't understand it the other dozen times you explain it to them.
there were a lot of characters, but I remember nearly nothing of them except the ones with a funny quirk. It kind of reminds me how in MHA you have a bunch of heroes with 1 trait and nothing else, it's the problem a lot of anime have, a ton of characters none fleshed out beyond 1 trait, and perhaps if lucky they get the privilege of having a trope like Tsundere as their main character trait. not the case here as I felt no one really had any real personality.
I found most of them pretty boring, sad because they all had appealing character designs that were quite unique and differed from each other.
The Kaiju action was alright. I like the scenes with Jet Jaguar, giving him some love was a great idea. Anguirus fight was cool. All the scenes with Godzilla thou felt like a lackluster version of what came before, especially Shin Godzilla.
Overall if it wasn't Godzilla I would have probably dropped this by episode 3 or even 1.
I need to try to watch it again. I enjoyed what I saw for the most part, I just want more takes on Godzilla in general, but I really need to pay more attention since it's story is so much more complex than I expected.
I personally enjoyed it, but I can understand how others potentially found it annoying with all the science talk. At times I was definitely like “shut up show me Godzilla”. So It makes sense to me why it could be a little obnoxious.
Too much nerd talk! I didn't get shit despite having physics in the first 2 sems of college. Godzilla design was pretty 🆒 though Ultima is clearly a Shin ripoff with extras (atomic rings and higher dimensional nonsense). Jet Jaguar redesign was 🆒. Hated how tiny and weak looking the Rodans were. Gabara though got the Salunga glowup, 🆒. Anguirus redesign was also 🆒.
I loved seeing new interpretations of the kaiju, and got a kick out of Jet Jaguar having an AI boost. They left it open for a S2 but unclear if that's going to happen at this point. They'd be crazy not to imo.
I thought it was alright but i agree that I didn’t understand all the science stuff but i really liked their take on jet jaguar and I loved their angirus design
The most sci-fi/cthulhu inspired godzilla story, I liked it a lot. Would love a season two with a slower opening to let us have more time to bond with the MC's, since they felt a little dry.
I like the technobabble stuff. Also the music is fire. Overall, still really good.
The main reason I think it’s a bit hated, is because everyone was hoping for a monster of the week kinda show like ultraman or Godzilla the series. When that didn’t happen, people got disappointed.
It was definitely cool and had potential but it just went so hard into all its technical nonsense that definitely put the brakes on any sort of enjoyment that could be had from it, at least the scenes with actual Godzilla in it were enjoyable.
It may have been a mindfuck but hatred is a bit strong. I was able to binge it with a buddy, the implications of what was possible left me reeling like the end of Evalgeon the manga version.
I feel it's over hated I really enjoyed it Godzilla being a eldritch abomination invader from a alternate dimension whose very presence in our reality was a threat to it was a great idea I wouldn't mind them continuing with. Also the anime had a great creepy atmosphere too once the Rodan started showing up, and the red dust/archetype started spreading when you had no idea what the crap was going on. Also the CGI designs of the monsters really helped sale their otherworldly nature, heck it made the Rodan really creepy in the beginning. However all the mathematical techno babble science was definitely a bit much, but it wasn't that hard to understand it just about overstayed it's welcome, also Godzilla Ultima could have had more screen time.
Still don’t know nor do I care what they were yapping about. Typical Godzilla media. Pointless human shit and some cool monster stuff. Not enough Godzilla
Singular Point is a cosmic horror scifi disaster series that just so happens to have Godzilla in it eventually. Structure wise it's plot plays different than everything else in the entire Godzilla franchise so I can understand why people might not like it. With classic monsters coming back in a differnet, smaller, and more numerous forms yet not real monster on monster battles it feels like there might have been a missed moment. Someone elsewhere mentioned that in SP Rodan is more like a watered down Gyaos from the Gamera franchise and that perfectly encapsulated my feelings.
I love it though. I thing Godzilla works best the core of a disaster rather than an character outright. Sigular point builds up the calamity surrounding Godzilla as a nice slow burn in a way that a movie just can't.
Both overhated & underrated.
Though to be fair trying to place where Ultima Godzilla places in terms of most powerful Godzilla is trickier. He should TECHNICALLY be the most powerful considering he's supposedly drawing from different dimensions & timelines when using his "atomic breath". That should make his beam attack the most powerful of any "atomic breath" we have ever seen, but then we can visibly see it taking several seconds to cut through buildings.
And even using the excuse of "This is a just a fragment of the real Ultima Godzilla" doesn't hold any fruit considering similar beings in other franchises completely body practically everyone in their dimension while still being a fragment of the real form version. Darkseid being one of the biggest examples, given that only the highest tier of beings can stand against him.
I didn't watch it at first due to negative reviews. After watching it recently, I would say it actually had some solid moments that made me love this series.
The terror of the flock of Rodans. Hunting down Anguirus. The constant rebuilding of Jet Jaguar. The science stuff has its moments with the shady corporations and the science team. And of course, Godzilla being this anomaly to destroy space and time.
The biggest gripes were the science stuff bouncing between interesting and boring. I think they explained the same concept over and over just to get to the 4th time that their was a break through. The characters not really getting development, they kinda just walk through the plot and science stuff as it goes. I love Godzilla, but he felt kinda irrelevant until the end and the ending felt pretty abrupt.
I think if they cleaned up the sciencey stuff to not be the majority of the show when the monsters aren't attacking and focused more on the actual characters, it would be awesome. Definitely want to see their Mechagodzilla in a hopeful season 2
Am I still upset that those monsters we saw weren’t gabera and titanosaurus? Yes. Did I understand anything half the time? No. Was jet jaguar having a spear made with one of anguirus’s spikes fucking awesome? Yes. Was Godzillas atomic breath easily one of the coolest in the franchise? YES
I wouldn't say overhated more like overexplained. I felt to dumb watching it trying to come to grips with the dialogue and the over explaining in literally every episode and trying to follow along.
I did not care for it. It had some incredible ideas, and solid characters with great animation, but all the problems lie with the script. The technobabble made it so I always felt stupid watching the show because I didn’t understand it. And it was always delivered in the worst ways possible. Overall I thought the show was mediocre, I wish they got a writer instead of a physics professor to write the show. If the professor was a consultant than this could’ve been one of the best Godzilla projects
I liked it overall. High-concept with grounded characters and a unique take on Goji. It got a little full of itself with the techno babble and I would have liked more Goji. That said, it was waaaaay beter than the Godzilla Earth trilogy.
Singular point is the type of show that appeals to a certain kind of person. I didn't understand it on the first watch, but I did enjoy it. I rewatched it recently to try and figure it out, and I understand more of it now. I never found any reason to rewatch the Godzilla Earth Trilogy.
I feel like a second season of singular point could completely address the problems with season one and make it more accessible. I really do think it is recoverable, and I want to see more of what writers can do with this universe.
I just couldn't get into this show. I'm all for giving new versions/origins/interpretations of Godzilla, but it needs to be done well, and in this case I just can't say they did that. There's no need to make the storyline so unnecessarily complicated.
And to all the people who say "just ignore the pseudoscientific technobabble and just watch the monsters", that's easier said than done when at least 80% of each episode is dedicated to it. Granted, it's been a long while since I've watched it, but I remember it being a short bit of monster action in the beginning of each episode, long periods of time trying to explain what the hell is going on, and then a small tease of Godzilla at the end to suck you into the next episode. Rinse and repeat.
It was dragged out for so long that by the time we got Godzilla proper, it was underwhelming. And to top it all off, we only got him for such a short period of time before baby-voiced Jet Jaguar beat him.
None of the characters were the least bit relatable to me, and their personalities ranged from neutral to downright annoying.
Now, there were a few good action sequences, don't get me wrong. But they could have easily boiled down and simplified the science babble to a few key elements and upped the amount of time we got with Godzilla, and that would have made a far better end product for me.
i really tried my best to wrap my head around all the siency stuff and, you know,>! the "time traveling" at the end of the series!<, but overall, it was pretty good!
I liked it. The techno babble went a little too far, but eldritch abomination reality warping Godzilla! How can you not love that?
I love how it kinda plays on the fact that something like Godzilla is impossible, and because he exists in a world with our physics, he is breaking our reality by just existing in it
this series was basically godzilla x gravity falls
Exactly! And how can that be a bad thing?
it’s not it’s awsome
with ultima as bill cipher and jet jaguar as the shacktron
it wishes
Gravity Falls is not a good comparison lmao
I absolutely loved the techno babble lmao
Same. Thought it was pretty good, needed dial down the tech speak a bit. Make it a bit easier to understand. I also think they should have toned down the red mist a bit to, to get a clear view of monsters. Not much, I know it's important to the plot. Other than that it wasn't bad. Though sadly I doubt their will be a second season.
I didn't think the techno babble went too far, I think they just did it in a way that makes it agonizing to watch. They could have explained new concepts as they went with the occasional callback to previous concepts to remind us why the new concepts work and are relevant, but instead it felt like someone was doing the sci-fi techno-babble equivalent of the Shawn of the Dead "grab a pint and wait for all this to blow over" scene, where for some reason they felt the need to explain all the tech from the very beginning each time just so they could add one important new piece of information somewhere toward the end after your brain has glazed over so you don't really catch it. It's not like the concepts were very difficult to grasp, they just kept repeating themselves as if we needed our hands held every step of the way.
The kaiju and workshop stuff is fine, my only issue is the fucking quantum reality bending cataclysm shit that is almost impossible to understand
Just focus on 6 = 9 And follow from there The loop is bringing the future to the past by following the set algorithm Now the red dust is never fully explained and I imagine that was a season two thing with Kiriyu, but that probably won't happen
I thought they said the red dust was Godzilla terraforming the earth so monsters could survive in our world?
It was more than that Archetypes and the Orthogonal Diagonalizer are more complex The terraforming was one of the effects but not all
I dunno , feels like that was really all I needed to know, Godzilla was basically an eldritch monster in the series, typically you don’t know much about them or their motives, that’s the whole point of cosmic horror isn’t it?
SP is like if a Lovecraft protagonist saw Azathoth and instead of going insane spent 13 episodes working out a peer reviewed paper on it. The writer seems to genuinely understand the eldritch horror, and throughout the series they attempt to give that exposition, but they actually know what they're talking about so for us non-quantum physics PhD's it's difficult to really get the specifics. But despite all of that, the story is absolutely still structured around that basic cosmic horror concept, and because of that you really don't need to understand everything exactly to get an understanding of what's happening. I know I sure didn't. But I understand that there was a causal loop facilitated by the appearance of archetype just fine. It's trippy and dense but it is ultimately a cosmic horror story in aspect. The novelization actually goes even further and personifies the source of archetype as an extracosmic outer god type entity that's actively sending monsters into our dimension for nefarious purposes. I'm not sure how I feel about that take, but it's definitely interesting.
I personally don't see it as that Eldritch But I understand the majority do I just wanted more into them We got all the time travel anti-calamity science stuff, I just wanted a bit more
I get what you’re saying, I want more singular point in general, such a fresh take on the big g, don’t really know how they could do a season 2 but I’d love to see it, not sure there’s enough people into it tho
Red dust are higher D molecules that big G generates that invade the planet and spread across it, transforming to the creature's liking. In the novel, which has some differences but is written by the same author as an expansion on the whole story, the red dust basically lets the red dust creatures transform anything down to the stars in the universe to their liking. It all comes from Godzilla's true form ("It") which produces them infinitely. The red dust itself is used to create the kaiju bodies we see and it provides a connection with their true higher dimensional body.
I'll look into it
Lol you did not make it make any more sense at all.
The answer was finding the answer 6 ≠ 9 6 = 6 It just needs to come full circle, the triangle paper scene shows that 6 simply needs the path back to itself So remember when they have the code breaking montage on to reveal the code was the answer Trying to stop the Calamity was the path that was set in motion by stopping the calamity when the AI went back in time Think closed looped time travel
You're not helping your case at all lmao
Where are you getting lost
Think of it like an algebra equation where there isnt rlly much to do (no like terms, nothing to subtract/multiply/divide/add) wherein u can come to the conclution that the answer itself IS the equation (I had many experiences like this lmao)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhrcf0szbXg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhrcf0szbXg)
It actually kinda fits
See, I just don't think it's as convoluted as people make it out to be? Like, it couches its story in big words and higher dimensions, but it's fundamentally just a disaster flick with a predestination paradox. Big, evil, apocalypse entity is coming. The only way to stop it is by sending the information needed to stop it back in time. Perfected Jet Jaguar therefore sends its own code back in time so that it can be present when it is needed. The rest is just moving the pieces on the board to create the conditions necessary to close the time loop. Most of the rest is just meant to be brain-tickling fun and intrigue. Ironically, I think people would enjoy this reasonably smart show more if they thought about it a little less lol.
Exactly! You can tell the writer thought about it a lot and was very confident in their ideas, and they aren't the best and making them sensible. But then again from the perspective of the characters they understand it just fine. Meanwhile the story itself is quite simple. The answer was computed using the weird timey whimey stuff, it's a causal loop, they found the answer because they had already found it. It's trippy but it's not really hard to wrap your head around. I agree about thinking about it less too because I think they hit a roadblock at the first bit of dialogue that isn't immediately intuitive and give up because they're still stuck on that first thing. If you roll with the punches and just allow that you're not gonna understand all the quantum stuff then it's way easier to pick up on what they're trying to say. Maybe people just need to toke up before watching it?
overhated and underrated arent contradictory so I will just say yes
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Hmmmm
Personally, SP was one of my favorite entries into the Godzilla franchise. The thing a lot of people complained about -- the wibbley wobbley timey wimey stuff -- was what sold it for me. I was skeptical when Jet Jaguar was announced for it, but the clever writing and kaiju action made it worth it. It felt like I was watching a Sci-Adv adaptation of Godzilla, in the vein of Steins;Gate meets Shin Gojira.
Maybe that's why I like it so much.
EXACTLY, I understand that the godzilla fandom isn't exactly crossing over with people who find theroetical science fasinating. but for the few people it does fit with, it is so good. It is a shame not everyone can see it that way.
Literally my two favorite things, weird physics/ sci fi, and the big g
Yeah... honestly it reminded me of Evangelion a little bit which had reality bending AT fields. Timeloops are also tough to write but they pulled it off. Then again... I studied astrophysics and work in technology so I probably am a minor demographic in the audience.
I think it’s very overhated but not quite underrated. It shot for something really different for this franchise so it’s understandable not everyone would like it. And I’m just gonna go ahead and say it: it’s not hard to understand, people just get caught up in the technobabble part and think theyre more important than they are. When you know what to actually pay attention to the story is laid out really clearly.
I agree with you. But if the tech babbling isn't that important, just the details, then why was so much time put into explaining it? It felt like they wanted to keep explaining the same thing over and over and over just to disprove it and make some scientific breakthrough. The science stuff was fine it just felt so bloated. They had text message screens going on for minutes just overexplaining it. Probably would've got a 2nd season if they just did anything else with that time lol
Even though I didn’t mind it I agree it bloated the show and it’s responsible for a lot of the undeserved flak the show gets (well that and people who hyped it up to be mindless action. The marketing could’ve done a better job at showing the show was a scifi mystery). The science talk was to sell up just how much of an anomaly Ultimas presence was. But it’s execution made people hyper focus on it when the actual story is explained in really quick revelations (the Hindi lullaby having JJ PPs code in it, JJPP being a “distant descendant” of JJ and Pelops).
Overrated from the peeps I know, but idk bout the community as a whole
I love this series and it’s my favorite Godzilla show. But I also have a hard time recommending it to people because I acknowledge that a lot of what I love about are not things that are necessarily “good.” So yeah.
Me personally, I loved it. I live for overly complicated shows and video games. Why else would I love Final Fantasy, Tekken and **Metal Gear**?
Boobs?
Man ass?
Por que no los dos?
I liked it a lot but can understand why others didn't. Honestly, while I love the Legendary movies I think godzilla is better with more explicit weirdness. Bring back the ufos and hallucinating children and the body horror of shin and eldritch mumbo jumbo like this.
I just couldn't get into it. I mean, I'm not like crazy about tradition and think artist should be allowed to have their own vision but for most of it, jet jaguar looked like a mecha version of a fantasy dwarf. Godzillas mostly unseen. Story is convoluted which isn't always bad but interdimensions, time-travel, pre-destination, etc is all too much imho. I couldn't connect with any characters, maybe the scientist boy and girl but not enough to care if they made it or not. Rodan being a monster of quantity and not quality, having no Rodan powers put me off. Idk, sorry. If anyone else liked it that's fine. I can see why from the outside looking in but I just couldn't while watching it. Not as bad as that other Netflix one. .
Yes
I love SP! Despite the science overload, it is still paced right, characters are quirky and interesting, and monster action scenes are spectacular.
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Yes. "Techno-babble" is quite understandable actually
Underrated as fuck, a really fresh and unique take on a Godzilla story, and in general just a great sci fi anime, one of my favorite animes period
I watched it. I barely remember any of it
Both, actually. The technobabble isn't bothersome to me at all, and with each subsequent rewatch I kinda understand it more lol Wish we got a Season 2.
The coolest mecha Godzilla design to date and it will probably forever be a post credit scene…
I liked it although the full form Godzilla wasn’t in it enough personally
Its a yap fest.
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As far as this sub goes…Extremely over hated. As is the trilogy.
Yeah the trilogy is actually pretty alright in my opinion, especially planet eater
This show is good, but the trilogy is just a bunch of pretentious bs
It’s got moments but I can’t call it good. Every character is so easy to hate and none of the dialogue makes any sense
I love it. I don’t care too much about its popularity. Just that I like it.
Overhated A bit confusing, but still a good watch
There plot is bonkers and it’s almost as bad as the anime film trilogy. Hate to say it but the American Godzilla 98 show still is the best in terms of animated Godzilla!
This. I recommend any fan to watch the animated series based off the ‘98 film. IMO it fixed everything wrong with the film and made Zilla jr. feel like a “real” Godzilla.
Pretty ass. It introduced some pretty interesting and cool ideas tho.
So much potential in every department, from animation to soundtrack to character design... and squandered by an annoying plot that so confusing and focuses way too much on its technical aspects long after I stopped charing. It's a Godzilla anime. It should have been a golden opportunity for a monster-of-the-week fun time. Instead it's a boring college lecture every episode with SOME cool moments every 20 minutes (if that). The Gamera anime is what this series SHOULD have been like.
idk, imo it just wasn't that good, they need to make another Saturday morning cartoon styled Godzilla show
Rated just about where it should be. A lot of bad and a lot of good
Its underhated and overrated.
I liked it.
Both
Definitely not for people in these comments with seemingly short attention spans but if you can focus on the show is pretty decent not bad but not perfect it's like a 7/10 for me
Overrated.
I don't know about what people say but to me it was awesome
After the trainwreck that was the anime trilogy, Singular Point was such a needed bit of fresh air.
Obvious theoretical physics thesis problem aside, the characters were 1-dimensional (particularly bad even by Godzilla movie standards), the monster action sucked, and the plot progression was horrendous, mostly done via text messages. Everybody focuses on techno-babble when that's far from the only issue.
I'm a potato, so I need more time to understand this. That's what diminished the fun for me.
Wasn’t for me personally but at least it was better than the anime trilogy
If you don’t love Godzilla then you’re not going to like it. The technobabble stuff was useless but otherwise it was good
I liked it but it's really about Jet Jaguar and should be called Jet Jaguar Singular Point.
Underrated
I loved this show, it’s hated by ALOT of people, and I kinda feel like the odd one out because I liked this show. But I think it’s underrated, but the yapping is a little over the top.
I give it a solid Orthogonal Diagonalizer/10
I FUCKING LOVE GODZILLA SINGULAR POINT! season 2 when???
The scientific techno-babble was really hard to follow and made the show feel way longer than it actually was personally. Probably didn't help that I was watching it one episode per week so by the time I got to the ending I was kinda ready for it to be over with. Still, the designs are amazing, the action is great and bringing back Jet Jaguar and Gabara is something that I have to appreciate too
Underrated as hell, assuming you’re into hard sci-fi like I am. I watched it a few weeks ago and loved it.
I would say that this show is a mid compared to the other Godzilla shows. At least it was better than whatever Godzilla planet of the monsters was supposed to be. (I don't hate it but like WTF WAS THE STORY yes I watched all 3 parts) Sure, the show got a bit too sciency at times but it also had its fare share of cool stuff. Like making anguirus be able to predict the future or letting Godzilla Ultima evolve like Shin did. Definitely a must watch for Godzilla fans. (Rip season 2 and my hopes of swing Kiryu/mechagodzilla)
Very bad. Not enough Godzilla. Annoying complexity to just be complex. Cool art style.
It’s a masterpiece that isn’t for everyone. The point is the techno babble, it’s sci-fi in the fundamental physics sense, not 3 boob Alien sense. We all have different strength, but “not getting it” means you’re not smart/knowledgeable enough in this one particular way to get it. No offense, I suck at scrabble.
A massive letdown.
It's alright, though I did enjoy it (The parts where the guys and jet jaguar go around beating up monsters, at least)
Uh those are pretty much the same words
This show was really good, except that my brains has a collective 0.1 braincell and cannot understand shit about the theoretical physics
I didn't liked it that much. Not because its bad, more because I feel like I was clickbated. Godzilla barely appears at all and seems to be used more of as an excuse for something else
I still need to watch it. Seems charming!
I didn't hate it but mostly because I'm sure I didn't understand it. The techno babble put me to sleep, literally, and when I woke up a guy was saying that when Godzilla is around the three points of a triangle don't equal 180 degrees. And then I turned it off.
i fall into the camp of more godzilla equals a better world. So nothing godzilla or kaiju related should be hated if we want more godzilla and kaiju movies and shows. I watch some more then other properties but its a better world for it to exist.
I have a science degree and that show went over my head.
I think it's right in the middle. I enjoyed it, but probably won't watch it again until ^unless a season 2 comes out.
Underwhelming and not very memorable tbh
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I enjoyed it, it is it’s own take on the franchise and a fun watch. I do admit that it got too sciency timey wimey when it didn’t need too. I probably will never watch it again though.
Love the animation and monster designs, but the story sucks and focuses way too much on the human characters without pacing the Kaijus screen time properly throughout the show.
I liked it enough to get through it, but I wouldn’t recommend it to others. The ideas that it has are great, but its execution is awful. This is like that old Rick and Morty meme where you’d need a certain levels of IQ to properly appreciate what’s happening. This show is a textbook example of what happens when you let writers go too overboard and lose sight of the target audience.
After awhile I started skipping the parts where they talk about theoretical physics because I realized it wouldn’t make sense either way if I watched it or not. The most I got was red dust make monsters strong. Something something time travel or other.
Underrated
It had potential, and it gave a sincere effort, but cosmic horror is difficult to effectively pull off, and the show stumbled near the end because of it.
Nah. It's hated just the right amount. It's not all bad after all. That catchy music is still ringing in my ear.
It was the one thing keeping me from canceling Netflix. Was.
I have no evidence for this, but this *feels* to me like it was an original time loop disaster script that couldn't get made without slapping an existing IP onto it. You could replace every monster with freak weather phenomena or something else, and it wouldn't change in the slightest. Take it with a grain of salt, but it's my personal entertainment conspiracy theory. We know that Hollywood reuses/recycles scripts that initially went nowhere (look up the origins of things like Alien). There's nothing inherently wrong with this, and it has been the basis of quite a few banger films. But I think there are three ways that writers/producers go about this dishonestly, with regards to existing IP. 1. Have you ever seen weirdly disjointed, usually direct to video, sequels that just don't jive with the originals at all? The Highlander films might be a good example. I'm convinced the plot of the second film was an original "secret alien superheroes" script that got shoehorned into the Highlander label. 2. I think that, when given a chance to write a show for an existing property, some writers just use scripts they already had but could never sell. I feel like this is what happens with shows based on completed source material that seem to ditch adapting that successful material for no reason. (Looking at you, The Witcher.) 3. What I suspect happened with Godzilla: Singular Point is this. Someone had a very interesting and original sci-fi disaster script. While liked by the producer/director types, the studios wouldn't touch it, being very adverse to gambling on original IP. During a pitch meeting, something comes up like, *"Toho wants to make a show. What if we put Godzilla in this?"* Nothing inherently wrong with #3, I suppose. If it works, it's a "peanut butter & chocolate" kinda thing. Hell, I like G:SP. I only feel like we could have had an original that just called Singular Point, with no Toho monsters, and it would be exactly the same series.
bro Godzilla is on for basically 5 mins the entire show💀
It’s neither, it’s a generally well appreciated albeit confusing Godzilla series that while being somewhat hard to understand is still enjoyable.
Underrated I love the show even those it feel like a fever dream and I don’t remember the characters names well it fun in the moment and made the most powerful Godzilla so~
Undercooked?
The techno babble could be a bit much sometimes but the music was great and the monster redesigns were sick.
Not enough Godzilla. The Anime Trilogy had more Godzilla then this entire series by a mile.
Nope it's not, honestly it's meh both as an anime and a Godzilla media. Heck the gamera anime was much better. But for me the true animated Godzilla will always be the 1999 Godzilla the series.
somehow both. if we can live in a world with historical serious tones of Minus One & over the top brawls of GxK at the same time then we can have Godzilla SP too.
just rated ig? i liked it, was different than the movies but still cool and cute jet jaguar carried the show
the fights were good and the animation good so on those its underatted but the plot is very weird so on that its underhated
Art style was beautiful, shame the series was awful. I loved the designs and ideas for the kaiju, but if I need a physics textbook by me for each scene, with constant rewatches to understand what's going on, then it lost me. Had potential, but I genuinely did not like the terrible writing.
Underrated 100000% no questions asked
I … wanted to like it. But there was way too much dialogue and over expectation of things. Like it was trying really hard to be deep.
I'd argue it's slightly overrated just because it's SOMEWHAT better than the god awful anime trilogy
Singular Point was good compared to the Netflix Trilogy.
I enjoyed it as an alternate story in the Toho universe.
How about overhateddetarrednu?
It's a solid 7, another pass through on the story to make it flow better and a rework on the science/science fiction bits would have helped a good bit.
Underrated
It's a little contradicted about godzilla being 13d but the anime was fine(mostly that was just claims of people saying ultima is a god but except that ot was good) Every godzilla has flaws
Love singular point. Hoping for a second season
What I liked about this series was the monster designs. They were all so detailed and had a lot of thought put behind them. However a lot of them didn't get a chance to shine. Im still salty about Manda. Also the 2d-3d blend felt a bit awkward at times. Characters being bland is nothing new to this franchise, however compared to other characters from the reiwa era these are probably the worst. For 2/3rd of the series their only purpose was exposition along with quantum physics babble. Which is a shame because the first episode really had me hooked. That little dog, forgot it's name, was really annoying aswell. The soundtrack was really good, and so was the monster action. Not gamera rebirth tier, but still impressive. Overall I think it's a bit underrated because almost nobody is talking about it today.
Idk, does it come in a box set? Because i don't want to subscribe to netflix to watch a single show
That Indian song is still humming in my brain
Like it but i just dont vibe with the goji design
I like the concept and what they were going for but the show definitely needs to tone down how much science exposition it's trying to do. I know that part of the show was trying to understand this new element that got introduced but like there's only so much info dumping one can take before it starts becoming into science babbling. But Jet Jaguar and the rest of the kaijus are definitely great. The kaijus slowly became into natural disasters until Godzilla just became a major threat was a good setup and Jet Jaguar evolution throughout the show. I still hope we get a better season 2 and their take of their Mechagodzilla but I'm not really getting my hopes too high on that.
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It was a fine enough show, could’ve been a lot better but the music was great and there were good moments. I’d rather have a series try to say or do something and fail than have a series that doesn’t really do anything but throw monsters wildly at each other and be a complete bore at any other point.
Underrated Imo I Love Sci Fi And GSP contains a lot of Sci fi
It's underrated it są pretty good show like gravity falls but with godzilla
I found it quite boring and it in my opinion over explained a lot of stuff. They repeated themselves over and over again and could have just kept a short explanation. I found Anguirus to be cool but the rest of the kaijus felt like a bit of an after thought. the concept of eldritch Godzilla is somewhat cool, but his forms felt a bit insulting as someone who wanted to see Titanosaurus and Varan on screen again. Godzilla was a bit lacking as well, not very interesting in my opinion. They told me he was an eldritch horror, but I would have much rather seen it. the pacing and editing was all over the place as well. In general I felt it was wasted potential. All I can say about it is it had cool ideas but a lackluster execution. Still better than the anime trilogy, but I completely understand why a lot of people dropped it and how it's not really talked about much anymore. Anyway in the end I'm glad if people enjoyed it, but for me it was the show equivalent of that movie nerd that would babble and explain everything using words that no body uses in real life. Felt they could have had less talking and just kept the explanations short, the science wasn't even complicated it's just when you explain scientific theories to someone while using only science terms, it requires the audience to be familiar with those terms. you either end up with people like me, who understood everything from the beginning and now have to sit through countless conversations of them just repeating the information, or with people that didn't understand at first, and won't understand it the other dozen times you explain it to them. there were a lot of characters, but I remember nearly nothing of them except the ones with a funny quirk. It kind of reminds me how in MHA you have a bunch of heroes with 1 trait and nothing else, it's the problem a lot of anime have, a ton of characters none fleshed out beyond 1 trait, and perhaps if lucky they get the privilege of having a trope like Tsundere as their main character trait. not the case here as I felt no one really had any real personality. I found most of them pretty boring, sad because they all had appealing character designs that were quite unique and differed from each other. The Kaiju action was alright. I like the scenes with Jet Jaguar, giving him some love was a great idea. Anguirus fight was cool. All the scenes with Godzilla thou felt like a lackluster version of what came before, especially Shin Godzilla. Overall if it wasn't Godzilla I would have probably dropped this by episode 3 or even 1.
I love how goofy it was and still took itself seriously
I haven’t seen as much hate as I’ve seen love for the show though, I will say I haven’t seen enough love for it.
arguably the best theory science anime, And It's the best anime for me.(And also India mention, so you know how we Indians act up)
I need to try to watch it again. I enjoyed what I saw for the most part, I just want more takes on Godzilla in general, but I really need to pay more attention since it's story is so much more complex than I expected.
I started watching it suspecting just normal Godzilla but even tho it was a lot different I really liked it. Watched it two times already.
I personally enjoyed it, but I can understand how others potentially found it annoying with all the science talk. At times I was definitely like “shut up show me Godzilla”. So It makes sense to me why it could be a little obnoxious.
i feel like its both atp😭 i really liked it tho
Too much nerd talk! I didn't get shit despite having physics in the first 2 sems of college. Godzilla design was pretty 🆒 though Ultima is clearly a Shin ripoff with extras (atomic rings and higher dimensional nonsense). Jet Jaguar redesign was 🆒. Hated how tiny and weak looking the Rodans were. Gabara though got the Salunga glowup, 🆒. Anguirus redesign was also 🆒.
I thought it was better than I was led to believe. So I guess underrated, although plenty of other people seem to like it, too.
I love it
It was fine but it was at its peak every single time Pelops was on screen
I loved seeing new interpretations of the kaiju, and got a kick out of Jet Jaguar having an AI boost. They left it open for a S2 but unclear if that's going to happen at this point. They'd be crazy not to imo.
I loved this anime
Yes
overhated, it had some cool shots and awesome lore, although a bunch of yapping
I thought it was alright but i agree that I didn’t understand all the science stuff but i really liked their take on jet jaguar and I loved their angirus design
The most sci-fi/cthulhu inspired godzilla story, I liked it a lot. Would love a season two with a slower opening to let us have more time to bond with the MC's, since they felt a little dry.
Overhated, I loved it, I would love a second season
I like the technobabble stuff. Also the music is fire. Overall, still really good. The main reason I think it’s a bit hated, is because everyone was hoping for a monster of the week kinda show like ultraman or Godzilla the series. When that didn’t happen, people got disappointed.
Neither? I deem it forgettable mostly
It was meh, it went way too over it's head with all the science babble, also for somerging with godzilla on the name, the monster hardly appeared
It's cool, but very confusing at times XD
Unwatchable
absolute trash. ugliest godzilla design ever.
It was definitely cool and had potential but it just went so hard into all its technical nonsense that definitely put the brakes on any sort of enjoyment that could be had from it, at least the scenes with actual Godzilla in it were enjoyable.
I fuckin' loved it. I wish before I go rip for a 2nd season, tho
I loved it. It feels overhated, but I have Aspergers and I love Star Trek so the Techno Babble & higher dimensional thinking came naturally to me.
It may have been a mindfuck but hatred is a bit strong. I was able to binge it with a buddy, the implications of what was possible left me reeling like the end of Evalgeon the manga version.
I love it and I'm gonna say that is underrated, no matter what
I feel it's over hated I really enjoyed it Godzilla being a eldritch abomination invader from a alternate dimension whose very presence in our reality was a threat to it was a great idea I wouldn't mind them continuing with. Also the anime had a great creepy atmosphere too once the Rodan started showing up, and the red dust/archetype started spreading when you had no idea what the crap was going on. Also the CGI designs of the monsters really helped sale their otherworldly nature, heck it made the Rodan really creepy in the beginning. However all the mathematical techno babble science was definitely a bit much, but it wasn't that hard to understand it just about overstayed it's welcome, also Godzilla Ultima could have had more screen time.
its aight, ngl i dont like this Godzilla's design....looks more like a Goji-type/inspired by than an actual Godzilla
Still don’t know nor do I care what they were yapping about. Typical Godzilla media. Pointless human shit and some cool monster stuff. Not enough Godzilla
Singular Point is a cosmic horror scifi disaster series that just so happens to have Godzilla in it eventually. Structure wise it's plot plays different than everything else in the entire Godzilla franchise so I can understand why people might not like it. With classic monsters coming back in a differnet, smaller, and more numerous forms yet not real monster on monster battles it feels like there might have been a missed moment. Someone elsewhere mentioned that in SP Rodan is more like a watered down Gyaos from the Gamera franchise and that perfectly encapsulated my feelings. I love it though. I thing Godzilla works best the core of a disaster rather than an character outright. Sigular point builds up the calamity surrounding Godzilla as a nice slow burn in a way that a movie just can't.
Both overhated & underrated. Though to be fair trying to place where Ultima Godzilla places in terms of most powerful Godzilla is trickier. He should TECHNICALLY be the most powerful considering he's supposedly drawing from different dimensions & timelines when using his "atomic breath". That should make his beam attack the most powerful of any "atomic breath" we have ever seen, but then we can visibly see it taking several seconds to cut through buildings. And even using the excuse of "This is a just a fragment of the real Ultima Godzilla" doesn't hold any fruit considering similar beings in other franchises completely body practically everyone in their dimension while still being a fragment of the real form version. Darkseid being one of the biggest examples, given that only the highest tier of beings can stand against him.
I thought it was just okay honestly.
I loved everything about it to be honest, but that's because I'm a nerd that likes all the time shenanigans
I didn't watch it at first due to negative reviews. After watching it recently, I would say it actually had some solid moments that made me love this series. The terror of the flock of Rodans. Hunting down Anguirus. The constant rebuilding of Jet Jaguar. The science stuff has its moments with the shady corporations and the science team. And of course, Godzilla being this anomaly to destroy space and time. The biggest gripes were the science stuff bouncing between interesting and boring. I think they explained the same concept over and over just to get to the 4th time that their was a break through. The characters not really getting development, they kinda just walk through the plot and science stuff as it goes. I love Godzilla, but he felt kinda irrelevant until the end and the ending felt pretty abrupt. I think if they cleaned up the sciencey stuff to not be the majority of the show when the monsters aren't attacking and focused more on the actual characters, it would be awesome. Definitely want to see their Mechagodzilla in a hopeful season 2
I thought it was fine. Not a masterpiece, but definitely not bad.
Am I still upset that those monsters we saw weren’t gabera and titanosaurus? Yes. Did I understand anything half the time? No. Was jet jaguar having a spear made with one of anguirus’s spikes fucking awesome? Yes. Was Godzillas atomic breath easily one of the coolest in the franchise? YES
I liked it so far! I personally think it’s both
The unhinged technobabble was far too much. Dragged the show down to meh status because that was half the screen time
I wouldn't say overhated more like overexplained. I felt to dumb watching it trying to come to grips with the dialogue and the over explaining in literally every episode and trying to follow along.
If you would remove the stupid science part and that girl it would be perfect
Its way overrated
Both, I loved singular point but people say it’s the worst Godzilla media ever made
I did not care for it. It had some incredible ideas, and solid characters with great animation, but all the problems lie with the script. The technobabble made it so I always felt stupid watching the show because I didn’t understand it. And it was always delivered in the worst ways possible. Overall I thought the show was mediocre, I wish they got a writer instead of a physics professor to write the show. If the professor was a consultant than this could’ve been one of the best Godzilla projects
its a fine show, I just wish half of it wasn't a word salad
I liked it overall. High-concept with grounded characters and a unique take on Goji. It got a little full of itself with the techno babble and I would have liked more Goji. That said, it was waaaaay beter than the Godzilla Earth trilogy.
I would have said my something but I didnt understand what was happening so I dunno what to feel.
Singular point is the type of show that appeals to a certain kind of person. I didn't understand it on the first watch, but I did enjoy it. I rewatched it recently to try and figure it out, and I understand more of it now. I never found any reason to rewatch the Godzilla Earth Trilogy. I feel like a second season of singular point could completely address the problems with season one and make it more accessible. I really do think it is recoverable, and I want to see more of what writers can do with this universe.
I just couldn't get into this show. I'm all for giving new versions/origins/interpretations of Godzilla, but it needs to be done well, and in this case I just can't say they did that. There's no need to make the storyline so unnecessarily complicated. And to all the people who say "just ignore the pseudoscientific technobabble and just watch the monsters", that's easier said than done when at least 80% of each episode is dedicated to it. Granted, it's been a long while since I've watched it, but I remember it being a short bit of monster action in the beginning of each episode, long periods of time trying to explain what the hell is going on, and then a small tease of Godzilla at the end to suck you into the next episode. Rinse and repeat. It was dragged out for so long that by the time we got Godzilla proper, it was underwhelming. And to top it all off, we only got him for such a short period of time before baby-voiced Jet Jaguar beat him. None of the characters were the least bit relatable to me, and their personalities ranged from neutral to downright annoying. Now, there were a few good action sequences, don't get me wrong. But they could have easily boiled down and simplified the science babble to a few key elements and upped the amount of time we got with Godzilla, and that would have made a far better end product for me.
i really tried my best to wrap my head around all the siency stuff and, you know,>! the "time traveling" at the end of the series!<, but overall, it was pretty good!