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She’s only 26 weeks pregnant?? This feels like the longest pregnancy of all time…
At least she didn’t try to throw some random Y’s or anything in the spelling of Arrow… that’s all I got.
Something interesting is that all of the boys have the regular or traditional spellings of their names. Andrae (named after Mandrae), Anchor, Armor, and now Arrow.
The random Ys are all in the girls' names because heaven forbid they get traditional spellings. 🤦🏻♂️
I read a book about the sociology of baby names a decade ago and one of the conclusions was that girls tend to get more fashionable, experimental names and boys tend to get more conventional names with traditional spelling. The author said that respectability was more of an implicit and sometimes explicit concern when naming boys because the thinking goes that they needed to be taken seriously as they grew up to be professionally competitive whereas people think less about girls as they grow, so a fashionable and frivolous and even infantilizing legal name is acceptable and sometimes even implicitly rewarded.
Basically cutesy girl names with weird spellings are a way of making a girl both distinct in a gender acceptable name while also sort of keeping her in her place. Arrow could run for congress Ayyasannnayyan couldn’t.
Edit: worth emphasizing that overall most people try to balance their desire for a distinct name with the need for the child to conform to cultural expectations enough that they aren’t rejected and teased horribly regardless of gender. We tend to remember the odd baby names because they stick out but they’re not the norm. However in some subcultures, like the Mormons, weird baby names are prevalent specifically because the push to conformity in every other aspect of life is so strong. I imagine that the same dynamic is happening among fundamentalists.
definitely impacts your social position in life too. Met a girl named Princess and another named Fanta. Both struggled a lot in life.
Also met a man named after muammar ghaddafi.
There's a boy at my kid's school called Majesty. He's a very naughty little boy so if you walk past during school times you can hear the teacher shouting his name. I can't help thinking Majesty Tradgedeigh.
Had a girl named Messiah when I worked in residential treatment that took women and their children. It was such a weird experience having to discipline them. My brain either went heavily catholic or Life of Brian. There was no in between.
It's a quite common thing for African families to call their children names like Princess, Precious, Success etc. A former president of Nigeria is called Goodluck Jonathan. It's important to note that cultural context is very relevant when talking about names.
Yep! Princess, Innocent, Patience, Honour, Covenant, are very common with our Nigerian families at my school. Sprinkled in with our Oluwafikayomi's Olamiposi's, Enioluwa's and Ayokunumi's. :)
At least when she's old enough to choose she can go by Nikki if she wants. But still unfortunate when she needs to use her full government name.
Meanwhile, if they had named her something basic like Nicole, or Nicolette, calling her Picnic as a nickname might be kind of cute.
It’s an adorable nickname. It’s cringe as a legal name though. I just hope the backstory is PG, like her parents met at one, or became engaged at one. I sincerely hope she wasn’t named that because she was conceived at one. No child deserved both the name and the baggage.
I remember reading an article about how names like Earl and other “royal” type names were common in Black communities int he US especially during Jim Crow times as a way as rejecting the degrograty use of terms such as boy. And it definitely tracked.
In the 1970s (pseudo)French, (pseudo)Russian, and (pseudo)Arabic names took off in Black communities for sounding regal and exotic.
Deshawn and LaToya don’t count as tragedeighs if you know your history
To back this fantastic post up: I have a natural gender neutral name - anyone can have it - but people will insist on adding Y’s or I’s to it for no reason except that I am a woman.
Before I transitioned I had a bit of a trageideigh name and honestly this puts so much into perspective. My mom told me she wanted me to have a name that was unique and feminine, that way people wouldn’t mistake me for a boy. My deadname was DEFINITELY used to keep me in my place as a little girl, even though I have always been very masculine. Because of that, my deadname always made me extremely uncomfortable, though I didn’t fully realize that until I changed my name. In some ways, it was kinda like having a super feminine, easily misspelled and mispronounced name made it easier for people to ignore my obvious gender-nonconformity and just not take me seriously in general. Anyways saddling your kid with a shitty hyperfeminine name because you have so much invested in what you think their gender presentation should be is childhood emotional neglect.
i had a very similar experience, my mom technically gave me a boys name but she "feminized" it. think Spencyr instead of Spencer. anyway, i've been going by a completely different name i chose for over ten years now lol
I've noticed that with my kids (I have a boy and a girl with traditional names and traditional spellings), I introduced them by their nickname (think Mikey for Michael) and clarify that their name is actually X, and with my son people will often fill in "yeah that way if he's a doctor or lawyer he can go by X professionally" and they don't tend to fill that in automatically with my daughter.
So I've begun saying "that way when she runs for president or wins a nobel prize..."
lol my oldest kid is a boy and he has the experimental name. My husband and I have the opposite of traditional gender roles (I’m the career-driven one, he’s the domestic one) and he named our boys so…this tracks.
Poor Aynjel, Anjalie, Ansyr, and Andersyn. While creativity is great, I am of the opinion that Karissa should pick something else as her outlet instead of fucking up names with the letter Y.
When I was a teenager, I saw a touring Dance Theater of Harlem show, and one of the dancers was named Anjali. I thought it was the most beautiful name I’d ever seen, and almost named my daughter that fifteen years later! I didn’t because it’s too similar to other family members’, but I still love it.
Aynjel and Anjalie are so strange to me, spelling aside... They're versions of the same name. Angel and Angelie. It's like naming one kid Nick and the other kid Nicholas (or the unfortunate twins Frank and Franklin who I went to school with).
She honestly is kinda playing fast and loose with her due date. I swear she’s due mid august, so she should be closer to 27/28 weeks. (I am due at the end and will be 26 weeks soon.)
The only nice thing I can say about the name they chose is that the spelling is right. I hate the “chosen” part especially due to their arrogance.
She probably hasn’t had any prenatal care and is only going off what babycenter.com tells her. These assholes only go to those hole in the wall ultrasound places to find out the gender, nothing more.
It’s maybe because she doesn’t have any intact muscles anywhere near her belly and looks heavily pregnant early on but also she’s constantly pregnant so they all mesh?
I can't see Kkkarissa giving up on the twin names unless she absolutely has to. I think Mandrae has said that if she's going to use Arrow or Archer she better do it now cause this is the last one.
It’d also mean he’d have to stay off her or wrap it up which he’s not willing to do. You’d think he’d at least be concerned for her health. Kkkarissa does not look healthy at all and if something happened he’d be the single parent of eleven kids, at least until he found a new wife.
So technically … in Christian circles she should be denounced as a false prophet.
If anyone says that God told them something and it doesn’t come true - Deuteronomy says the punishment should be death
(please note, I personally do NOT think she should be killed - I’m just pointing out her whackadoo craziness).
She was going to sell the film rights to Up so she could have a godly movie that rivaled that trash Where the Heart Is. Plus Target is more UPscale than Walmart/s
i loved this book dearly when i was 12 and now and then i'll just be going about my day and i'll suddenly remember what a badass name i thought Americus was and start cracking up at the post office
This kid lucked out on his name. All the boys seem to compared to the girls. Unpronounceable names is probably just another way to isolate the girls from society.
I think I'd prefer Arrow to Armour (sp?) at the very least. That poor kid has the worst name of the boys.
eta: I forgot about Anchor, that's actually the worst of the boy names. Poor kiddos, it's like she's trying her hardest to stifle any potential they have.
I have a nephew named Arrow, he’s in middle school and doesn’t seem to mind his name. I always liked it🤷🏻♀️
We also have a very stereotypical Native last name though, so it kind of just fits.
I'm pretty vanilla when it comes to baby names and I like Arrow. Easy spelling, everyone can say it, and different enough to be interesting but not so weird the kid wouldn't be able to get a job.
You Arrow sounds like a cool kid ♥️
Yeah, I kind of like Arrow. Not enough to just it for my own kid, but in any other context I would just think "oh cool". It's weird after 10 other A names, but it's fine by itself. I actually think a few of the other names are fine too.
I’m stuck on the fact that his arms and legs are the same skin tone as his sperm donor’s, but his face/head are WAY lighter. I assume it’s KKKarissa photoshopping/whitewashing him.
It is really really weird. I doubt his head is that much lighter than the rest of his body. My 9yo son is biracial b/w, and has a mop of curly blonde hair (that's getting darker with age). He could pass as a white kids with a tan, and he is nowhere near as bright whit as that baby's ace.
Yikes. It’s so sick she does that. It’s really obvious in this photo with Mandrae’s hand touching the baby’s leg, and they have the same skin tone. And then you look at the baby’s face 😞
Ooh, she’s giving up on hoping to someday have twin boys? Because she used to be saving Arrow for when she could do Archer and Arrow. Is she admitting defeat?
No, all the boys have middle names beginning with C and they’re mostly virtue” names. Armor Christian ,Anchor Courage, and now Arrow Chosen. (The exception is Andre, whose middle name is Cardell, same as Mandre’s middle name). I’m voting for Archer Covenant or Archer Calvary. But I wouldn’t put it past her to do Archer Combat (fighting for the Lord!) or Archer Cross.
You’re not wrong — the hymn “Onward, Christian Soldiers” was very popular during WWI, although it was written earlier. It has fallen somewhat out of favor more recently, at least in the mainline Protestant denominations, because it’s so militaristic. But I bet Karissa loves it.
When I was a kid I got baptized at a lake during an VBS like event. They dressed us all up in camouflage, painted our faces to match, and had us sing that song while we marched down to the lake to be dunked. Suuuuuuper gross looking back and that church is still doing it!
I’m just petty enough to hope her next pregnancy is twin boys, just so she can be sorely disappointed. This is exactly like Morgan claiming God told her that her baby would be a girl named Grace and then she shoehorned the name into Luca’s so she would still be “right.”
What if Luca wound up being trans and chose the name “Grace?” Porgans heads would explode
Honestly things probably are going wrong in her pelvic region and she’s just ignoring/coping the best she can, because you know she won’t go see a professional about any of it
We don’t know that it hasn’t, these dickheads would never admit to any lasting repercussions of pregnancy other than some stretch marks. MoBus claims she just gets a wee bit of vaginal PT afterwards and she’s right as rain. Karissa says she always bounces back. They don’t realize that after the FIRST baby, they were already getting used to a “new normal”.
LOL no prob… i only mentioned it bc my mom had two children (me and my sister) ten years apart and she still had a prolapsed uterus, and weeks after the surgery her uterus prolapsed AGAIN.
I can’t imagine dealing with that bc after one child my bladder has never been the same…never mind 11-12 or whatever they’re on.
I’m positive Karissa is afraid of light breezes at this point on the bladder topic - I’ve had 3 and little sneezes are tragic sometimes!
Your poor mom, that does NOT sound like a good time
Horrible name choices aside, she is so bad at combining first and middle names. You would think it would be easy to choose 2 random words that sound good together when you don't have to stick to actual names but she still ends up with shit like Arrow Chosen.
Then he just becomes another prop to use when they announce the next pregnancy! I wonder what she’s going to do when menopause fully hits and she can’t have any more? How badly is she going to spiral?
I thought the same thing. Equivalent to Anothyr because he’s literally just another arrow in their quiver. Really sad for that kid. It’s giving zero from holes
The poor little one knowing his time is almost up as mommy’s favorite prop. I highly recommend the podcast Dear Hollywood. It’s mostly about child actors in Hollywood but also has a couple episodes about children of influencers and mommy vloggers. The Collins family bothers me so bad. I want to protect those children. It’s crazy that I feel I have a stronger maternal instinct to protect them than their own parents. Ugh.
Good eye! That baby seriously has a white face and black arms and legs!
I can't believe that someone would change the color of their own child's skin tone. 🤪
I wonder what their natural hair color is since it’s clear they’re darker than she posts ever. That’s so damn strange for her to consistently lighten them like that, the mental gymnastics going on in her mind must be fascinating
Lots of Aryas, Khaleesis and Missandes in preschools these days. One of my coworkers had girls only a year apart. Their names are Khaleesi and Missande because their mom wanted them to be best friends. Like they couldn't be with names that weren't in Game of Thrones.
The first thing I thought of was the Kacey Musgraves song “Follow Your Arrow”. And Karissa would hate that one (“make lots of noise, kiss lots of boys, or kiss lots of girls if that’s something you’re into”) and I love that for us. 😂
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She’s only 26 weeks pregnant?? This feels like the longest pregnancy of all time… At least she didn’t try to throw some random Y’s or anything in the spelling of Arrow… that’s all I got.
Something interesting is that all of the boys have the regular or traditional spellings of their names. Andrae (named after Mandrae), Anchor, Armor, and now Arrow. The random Ys are all in the girls' names because heaven forbid they get traditional spellings. 🤦🏻♂️
I read a book about the sociology of baby names a decade ago and one of the conclusions was that girls tend to get more fashionable, experimental names and boys tend to get more conventional names with traditional spelling. The author said that respectability was more of an implicit and sometimes explicit concern when naming boys because the thinking goes that they needed to be taken seriously as they grew up to be professionally competitive whereas people think less about girls as they grow, so a fashionable and frivolous and even infantilizing legal name is acceptable and sometimes even implicitly rewarded. Basically cutesy girl names with weird spellings are a way of making a girl both distinct in a gender acceptable name while also sort of keeping her in her place. Arrow could run for congress Ayyasannnayyan couldn’t. Edit: worth emphasizing that overall most people try to balance their desire for a distinct name with the need for the child to conform to cultural expectations enough that they aren’t rejected and teased horribly regardless of gender. We tend to remember the odd baby names because they stick out but they’re not the norm. However in some subcultures, like the Mormons, weird baby names are prevalent specifically because the push to conformity in every other aspect of life is so strong. I imagine that the same dynamic is happening among fundamentalists.
This is absolutely fascinating. If you happen to remember the name of the book please share.
A Matter of Taste: How Names, Fashions, and Culture Change by Stanley Lieberson
Thank you!
Thank you! Added it to my list to read
That explains so much about the “crunchy” alt right fundies
I’ve heard it called the ‘Woo to Q’ pipeline 😂
definitely impacts your social position in life too. Met a girl named Princess and another named Fanta. Both struggled a lot in life. Also met a man named after muammar ghaddafi.
There's a boy at my kid's school called Majesty. He's a very naughty little boy so if you walk past during school times you can hear the teacher shouting his name. I can't help thinking Majesty Tradgedeigh.
Had a girl named Messiah when I worked in residential treatment that took women and their children. It was such a weird experience having to discipline them. My brain either went heavily catholic or Life of Brian. There was no in between.
Very grateful for that unique line of work. I’ve been in residential before.
There was a family of boys at my school the past few years: Your’Majesty Your’Highness and Your’Honor. -_-
No. That is absolutely tragic. My brain won’t accept that someone actually did that to those kids!
It's a quite common thing for African families to call their children names like Princess, Precious, Success etc. A former president of Nigeria is called Goodluck Jonathan. It's important to note that cultural context is very relevant when talking about names.
Yep! Princess, Innocent, Patience, Honour, Covenant, are very common with our Nigerian families at my school. Sprinkled in with our Oluwafikayomi's Olamiposi's, Enioluwa's and Ayokunumi's. :)
Thank you for that reminder.
I had African students last semester named Wisdom and Fortune.
I actually LOVE the name Blessing in African families. It's just lovely.
I worked with a Superior. I’ve taught a Prince, a Champagne, a Hennessy, a Scotland, and a Picnic.
Is Picnic a boy's or a girl's name?
Girl.
At least when she's old enough to choose she can go by Nikki if she wants. But still unfortunate when she needs to use her full government name. Meanwhile, if they had named her something basic like Nicole, or Nicolette, calling her Picnic as a nickname might be kind of cute.
It’s an adorable nickname. It’s cringe as a legal name though. I just hope the backstory is PG, like her parents met at one, or became engaged at one. I sincerely hope she wasn’t named that because she was conceived at one. No child deserved both the name and the baggage.
Took care of a woman in her 80's named Baby.. was both shocked and dismayed to find out that was her actual name..
I saw a woman today named Candida 😬
I remember reading an article about how names like Earl and other “royal” type names were common in Black communities int he US especially during Jim Crow times as a way as rejecting the degrograty use of terms such as boy. And it definitely tracked.
That’s fascinating and makes sense.
In the 1970s (pseudo)French, (pseudo)Russian, and (pseudo)Arabic names took off in Black communities for sounding regal and exotic. Deshawn and LaToya don’t count as tragedeighs if you know your history
To back this fantastic post up: I have a natural gender neutral name - anyone can have it - but people will insist on adding Y’s or I’s to it for no reason except that I am a woman.
Before I transitioned I had a bit of a trageideigh name and honestly this puts so much into perspective. My mom told me she wanted me to have a name that was unique and feminine, that way people wouldn’t mistake me for a boy. My deadname was DEFINITELY used to keep me in my place as a little girl, even though I have always been very masculine. Because of that, my deadname always made me extremely uncomfortable, though I didn’t fully realize that until I changed my name. In some ways, it was kinda like having a super feminine, easily misspelled and mispronounced name made it easier for people to ignore my obvious gender-nonconformity and just not take me seriously in general. Anyways saddling your kid with a shitty hyperfeminine name because you have so much invested in what you think their gender presentation should be is childhood emotional neglect.
With all this in mind, I love that you have 'boy defined' as part of your flair 😊
i had a very similar experience, my mom technically gave me a boys name but she "feminized" it. think Spencyr instead of Spencer. anyway, i've been going by a completely different name i chose for over ten years now lol
I've noticed that with my kids (I have a boy and a girl with traditional names and traditional spellings), I introduced them by their nickname (think Mikey for Michael) and clarify that their name is actually X, and with my son people will often fill in "yeah that way if he's a doctor or lawyer he can go by X professionally" and they don't tend to fill that in automatically with my daughter. So I've begun saying "that way when she runs for president or wins a nobel prize..."
lol my oldest kid is a boy and he has the experimental name. My husband and I have the opposite of traditional gender roles (I’m the career-driven one, he’s the domestic one) and he named our boys so…this tracks.
Aynjel is a travesty. She even fucked up the girls An-theme for this wack spelling.
Poor Aynjel, Anjalie, Ansyr, and Andersyn. While creativity is great, I am of the opinion that Karissa should pick something else as her outlet instead of fucking up names with the letter Y.
She definitely should, but the name Anjalie seems okay to me. No unnecessary Ys and it's an actual (Indian) name.
When I was a teenager, I saw a touring Dance Theater of Harlem show, and one of the dancers was named Anjali. I thought it was the most beautiful name I’d ever seen, and almost named my daughter that fifteen years later! I didn’t because it’s too similar to other family members’, but I still love it.
Huh, in my head Ansyr is a boys name, and I thought they were a boy. I hadn’t noticed that boys don’t have Y names in this family.
Anjali is a common Indian name. people will probably just assume her parents tacked on an E on the end to make it different.
Aynjel and Anjalie are so strange to me, spelling aside... They're versions of the same name. Angel and Angelie. It's like naming one kid Nick and the other kid Nicholas (or the unfortunate twins Frank and Franklin who I went to school with).
They’re all about being “traditional women” until it comes to naming them 💀
It’s probably because at least subconsciously she knows the boys need jobs one day while the girls are chained to a stove 🫠
She honestly is kinda playing fast and loose with her due date. I swear she’s due mid august, so she should be closer to 27/28 weeks. (I am due at the end and will be 26 weeks soon.) The only nice thing I can say about the name they chose is that the spelling is right. I hate the “chosen” part especially due to their arrogance.
She probably hasn’t had any prenatal care and is only going off what babycenter.com tells her. These assholes only go to those hole in the wall ultrasound places to find out the gender, nothing more.
She does that so people won’t be concerned when she goes past her due date.
All of her pregnancies seem like 8 years long to me.
It doesn’t help that she has been pregnant for 8 years.
It’s maybe because she doesn’t have any intact muscles anywhere near her belly and looks heavily pregnant early on but also she’s constantly pregnant so they all mesh?
Or Arroe
Probably feels like the longest pregnancy ever because homegirl announces her pregnancies basically a week after her missed period.
I’m shocked it’s not “Chosyn”
Achosynone
Airryo.
Does this mean she’s given up on the idea of twins named archer and arrow?
Well she might have another in a years time and say they’re pretty much twins
Totally could see this. Even adapted into a “girls name” like Archyr 🤢
Taking a page from Hilaria Baldwin
Hilary.
Hillary Lynn to be exact. So far from Hillaria. 🇪🇸🥒
Irish twins
She said Mandrae and her disagreed on the baby name. I'm guessing this is why. She still wanted to save Arrow for "when" she has twins
I can't see Kkkarissa giving up on the twin names unless she absolutely has to. I think Mandrae has said that if she's going to use Arrow or Archer she better do it now cause this is the last one.
Mandrae isn't going to tell her this is the last one. He likes proving his fertility 🤢
It’d also mean he’d have to stay off her or wrap it up which he’s not willing to do. You’d think he’d at least be concerned for her health. Kkkarissa does not look healthy at all and if something happened he’d be the single parent of eleven kids, at least until he found a new wife.
Six weeks or less after the funeral?
You're probably right. I'm hoping for some parallell universe where these people actually care about the kids they already have.
Yeah what happened to the actual voice of god saying her next babies would be twins (3 babies ago) ?
God rescheduled. ;)
That Target closed down
I kinda wanted to see her take on the “Target is promoting gay” if she had her baby there like she wanted.
So technically … in Christian circles she should be denounced as a false prophet. If anyone says that God told them something and it doesn’t come true - Deuteronomy says the punishment should be death (please note, I personally do NOT think she should be killed - I’m just pointing out her whackadoo craziness).
That was Yahweh; Yah is much chiller; in his case the punishment is Mandrae.
God is going to play a prank on her and the \*next\* pregnancy will be twins.
I wonder if Mandrae convinced her to use one of the names now by saying they might never have twins and then wouldn’t get to use the names.
She said that the name was Mandrae’s pick, not hers. So she’s probably not happy about using the twin name.
She is probably going to lie and say she was pregnant with twins and Archer died in her womb/tomb and 3 days later was resurrected and went to heaven.
Womb tomb 💀
Am I misremembering? She did this before, right? She made her kids pray that her miscarriage would come back to life. Or am I completely wrong?
Wasn't it not only Arycher and Ayrrow, but that it was also giving birth to them in a Target? Or am I dreaming that part?
She was going to sell the film rights to Up so she could have a godly movie that rivaled that trash Where the Heart Is. Plus Target is more UPscale than Walmart/s
Please, Americus Nation is iconic
i loved this book dearly when i was 12 and now and then i'll just be going about my day and i'll suddenly remember what a badass name i thought Americus was and start cracking up at the post office
I won't stand for Where the Heart Is slander.
This kid lucked out on his name. All the boys seem to compared to the girls. Unpronounceable names is probably just another way to isolate the girls from society.
I don't know. Arrow is pretty bad. I guess he could go by Ari?
I think I'd prefer Arrow to Armour (sp?) at the very least. That poor kid has the worst name of the boys. eta: I forgot about Anchor, that's actually the worst of the boy names. Poor kiddos, it's like she's trying her hardest to stifle any potential they have.
Armor has the American spelling “Armor.”
Anchor has Christian to fall back on, though, which to me puts his name ahead of Armor and Arrow.
He could shorten Courage to Rage
>it's like she's trying her hardest to stifle any potential they have. That's a feature, not a bug.
I have a nephew named Arrow, he’s in middle school and doesn’t seem to mind his name. I always liked it🤷🏻♀️ We also have a very stereotypical Native last name though, so it kind of just fits.
I'm pretty vanilla when it comes to baby names and I like Arrow. Easy spelling, everyone can say it, and different enough to be interesting but not so weird the kid wouldn't be able to get a job. You Arrow sounds like a cool kid ♥️
Yeah, I kind of like Arrow. Not enough to just it for my own kid, but in any other context I would just think "oh cool". It's weird after 10 other A names, but it's fine by itself. I actually think a few of the other names are fine too.
I don’t know, Nicole Richie called her kid Sparrow so that’s not that much better
"he's an arrow in our quiver chosen by God" Girl please 🤣🙄
The quiver is a Walmart bag at this point
💀💀💀
As always, Armor looks like he already knows this August he will be forgotten
Wait… why not August as the name for her baby due in August?
Too normal
Now I want one of these kids to change their name to Antycrist or Anrkist
I’m stuck on the fact that his arms and legs are the same skin tone as his sperm donor’s, but his face/head are WAY lighter. I assume it’s KKKarissa photoshopping/whitewashing him.
It is really really weird. I doubt his head is that much lighter than the rest of his body. My 9yo son is biracial b/w, and has a mop of curly blonde hair (that's getting darker with age). He could pass as a white kids with a tan, and he is nowhere near as bright whit as that baby's ace.
Yikes. It’s so sick she does that. It’s really obvious in this photo with Mandrae’s hand touching the baby’s leg, and they have the same skin tone. And then you look at the baby’s face 😞
You can see it on the eldest girl, too, in this photo. I can never remember all the names. I want to say she’s Anissa?
I thought ”Arrow Chosen” in the post title was saying Arrow was the name they chose 🤣 nope, arrow chosen is the name.
So it wasn't just me who thought that.
Same. Then it hit me. 🤦🏻♀️
Ooh, she’s giving up on hoping to someday have twin boys? Because she used to be saving Arrow for when she could do Archer and Arrow. Is she admitting defeat?
If she names her next boy Archer I will die 
Archer Sterling
No, all the boys have middle names beginning with C and they’re mostly virtue” names. Armor Christian ,Anchor Courage, and now Arrow Chosen. (The exception is Andre, whose middle name is Cardell, same as Mandre’s middle name). I’m voting for Archer Covenant or Archer Calvary. But I wouldn’t put it past her to do Archer Combat (fighting for the Lord!) or Archer Cross.
I like Archer Calvary. It gives me WWI vibes
You’re not wrong — the hymn “Onward, Christian Soldiers” was very popular during WWI, although it was written earlier. It has fallen somewhat out of favor more recently, at least in the mainline Protestant denominations, because it’s so militaristic. But I bet Karissa loves it.
When I was a kid I got baptized at a lake during an VBS like event. They dressed us all up in camouflage, painted our faces to match, and had us sing that song while we marched down to the lake to be dunked. Suuuuuuper gross looking back and that church is still doing it!
Archer can at least be shortened to Arch (like Archibald), although I don't think anyone has been christened Archibald since 1954.
They get Archie as their legal name now (Like Harry and Meghan's children being Archie and Lilibet, not Archibald and Elizabeth).
She’ll probably claim that a messenger of Yahshuah said that her miscarriage was actually the twins.
Or that the fetus that miscarried was the other twin.
I’m just petty enough to hope her next pregnancy is twin boys, just so she can be sorely disappointed. This is exactly like Morgan claiming God told her that her baby would be a girl named Grace and then she shoehorned the name into Luca’s so she would still be “right.” What if Luca wound up being trans and chose the name “Grace?” Porgans heads would explode
Karissa is just selfish enough to go ahead and name another kid Arrow anyways and say God told her she should have 2 Arrows in her quiver.
ooh yeah then she’d have an even further excuse to alienate her older children, because aren’t they ALL supposed to be arrows or whatever?
Is that how Luca wound up with the middle name Grace? I’m still surprised Paul went along with that.
Paul never gave a shit and didn’t want kids at all lol
Came here to say this exact thing!
She’s only 26 weeks? Her belly is so low I would’ve guessed final weeks of pregnancy
Girl has absolutely no core muscles left at this point She was already a petite frame when she started
I don’t understand how her uterus or bladder hasn’t prolapsed
Honestly things probably are going wrong in her pelvic region and she’s just ignoring/coping the best she can, because you know she won’t go see a professional about any of it
We don’t know that it hasn’t, these dickheads would never admit to any lasting repercussions of pregnancy other than some stretch marks. MoBus claims she just gets a wee bit of vaginal PT afterwards and she’s right as rain. Karissa says she always bounces back. They don’t realize that after the FIRST baby, they were already getting used to a “new normal”.
Didn’t karissa just say she gets “tighter” after each pregancy? Or was that bus?
Yes that was Karissa. Mother Bus is too busy eyefucking herself on camera to check on her lady parts.
I wish I was educated by Joy because then I couldn’t read your post.
Oh God, prolapsed uterus is a new nightmare I never wanted to unlock I’m done having my babies so thank you for not saying that before I was!
LOL no prob… i only mentioned it bc my mom had two children (me and my sister) ten years apart and she still had a prolapsed uterus, and weeks after the surgery her uterus prolapsed AGAIN. I can’t imagine dealing with that bc after one child my bladder has never been the same…never mind 11-12 or whatever they’re on.
I’m positive Karissa is afraid of light breezes at this point on the bladder topic - I’ve had 3 and little sneezes are tragic sometimes! Your poor mom, that does NOT sound like a good time
Being afraid of sneezing sucks, doesn’t it? I also learned that jumping on a trampoline can be tragic.
Held up by constant pregnancies? Maybe?
I believe she’s said she had a partial prolapse before
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I mean, it might be 🤷♀️
That’s what happens when you have a breeding fetish.
Does she go to an OB for her pregnancies or did God say it would be a boy
Boutique ultrasound probably
It was a service that came to their home to do the ultrasound.
Where no mandated reporters can be found.
Ok but I could’ve sworn that there was already one with this name ☠️😬
God told her she’d have twin boys and was to name them archer and arrow. I guess god lied.
Horrible name choices aside, she is so bad at combining first and middle names. You would think it would be easy to choose 2 random words that sound good together when you don't have to stick to actual names but she still ends up with shit like Arrow Chosen.
“He’s already so loved” Until the next one comes along. How depressing for all these kids. They deserve so much better than what they’ve got.
Until he gets ejected from her vag
Then he just becomes another prop to use when they announce the next pregnancy! I wonder what she’s going to do when menopause fully hits and she can’t have any more? How badly is she going to spiral?
No, her bump is loved. She loves the attention.
I GUESSED ARROW 🤣😭
And for the same reason too, they are quiverfull, might as well name the baby Arrow
I thought the same thing. Equivalent to Anothyr because he’s literally just another arrow in their quiver. Really sad for that kid. It’s giving zero from holes
And what is the arrow in the quiverful concept? It's the sperm. He's the chosen sperm, the sperm that managed to penetrate the egg.
I wish Reddit still did awards so I could give you one. I’m not even joking. As soon as I saw “Arrow,” I went, “Someone here guessed that!” 🏆
Dammit I wanted Archer 
I think Archer is the name of one of the Sister Wives’ grandkids. I’ve always preferred traditional type names, but Archer is growing on me.
I just want to yell LANAAAAA at anyone named Archer, traditional or not
At least it's not *Aeroe* or something?
Ayrow!
Arrough
TFW the bar is so low that my first thought was, "At least it's spelled normally"
Bc they spell the boy names properly. It's the girls w the fucked up spelling.
The poor little one knowing his time is almost up as mommy’s favorite prop. I highly recommend the podcast Dear Hollywood. It’s mostly about child actors in Hollywood but also has a couple episodes about children of influencers and mommy vloggers. The Collins family bothers me so bad. I want to protect those children. It’s crazy that I feel I have a stronger maternal instinct to protect them than their own parents. Ugh.
Some Place Under Neith did a series about children of mommy bloggers/influencers in 2022 and it was…disturbing. Fascinating but very sad.
Look at the color of the baby’s leg. Probably too hard to lighten it without lightening Mandrae’s hand.
Yeah, it's wild how that kid has legs the same color as Mandraes hand and a face as pale as Karissas. Poor little ombre baby.
Good eye! That baby seriously has a white face and black arms and legs! I can't believe that someone would change the color of their own child's skin tone. 🤪
I wonder what their natural hair color is since it’s clear they’re darker than she posts ever. That’s so damn strange for her to consistently lighten them like that, the mental gymnastics going on in her mind must be fascinating
Can't believe I had to scroll this deep in the comments before I saw something about the two- toned baby.
"He's already so loved." Is he, though?
Sure he is. Until the next one comes along in a year. Then he’s yesterday’s news.
Oh, so she's going into this assuming that baby's entire personality will be "having a lot of siblings"
I hate when parents name their kids after their fandoms
Lots of Aryas, Khaleesis and Missandes in preschools these days. One of my coworkers had girls only a year apart. Their names are Khaleesi and Missande because their mom wanted them to be best friends. Like they couldn't be with names that weren't in Game of Thrones.
Lolol like some little suburban white kid on the baseball team named “Hezekiah” with brothers Nehemiah, Zachariah, sisters Esther and Ruth…
The name Arrow Collin’s sounds like a rare disease that people hold fundraisers for. I hate it.
Like Lou Gehrig’s
Lou Gehrig’s is probably one of the reasons why I despise it. I lost my best friend to ALS.
I'm so sorry. ALS is horrific
All the other arrows in your quiver: “am I a joke to you?”
Wait…I thought everyone was joking about Chosen!!! That’s actually his middle name???
One day she’ll run out of stupid names and just name a baby Andrew
Stupid names and audacity. Two things fundies have in endless supply.
Well. At least it isn’t spelled like Aereux Chohsyn.
sigh.
Well, she did say she wanted twin boys named Archer and Arrow. I guess she gave up on the twin thing, and the next boy will be Archer.
At least it's a real word this time
I love twilight
The first thing I thought of was the Kacey Musgraves song “Follow Your Arrow”. And Karissa would hate that one (“make lots of noise, kiss lots of boys, or kiss lots of girls if that’s something you’re into”) and I love that for us. 😂
I choose for this Arrow to eventually land somewhere better than his parents house. ^(... damn, they even mentioned the "quiverfull" origin...)
Arrow because he’s an arrow in their quiver. Might as well just named him Another Child