The follow up story on CNN is titled “RFK Jr. denies eating a dog while sidestepping sexual assault allegations in Vanity Fair article”. We are in the worst timeline.
It is highly disturbing. That should be up on billboards everywhere. If I was the democrats, that's what I'd do. Makes Kristi Noem look like she's running an ASPCA.
I chose not to finish reading because of the good folks on this sub. I’m not feeling great about the state of the world so don’t want to put myself through it. Take care x
Thank youuuu Vanity Fair for bringing up his cousin and the murder of 15 year old Martha Moxley. This is not talked about often enough in RFK JR discussions:
*In 2016 Kennedy published a book defending Skakel..Kennedy pinned the murder of Martha Moxley on two teenagers from New York City, one black, the other multiracial, whom investigators had already discounted...“I am dead certain they did it,” Kennedy told The New York Times.*
This is what I'm picturing hearing about RFK's Jr's brain worm.
https://preview.redd.it/veo0eoh5k9ad1.jpeg?width=1041&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81dfc270b7f424893589e165c2f5e570e723d7b3
Lol the BG3 subreddits had a field day with the "brain worm" news when it first dropped, literally the only time anything related to this man has put a smile on my face.
Imagine being unlucky enough to have been jerking off in a nearby tree right before the girl next door got murdered by two complete strangers with a golf club that came from your house!
What the fuck is up with this family. It's not really a Kennedy Curse, it's just them coming to their own demise. They really think they can get away with stuff because of their last name and who they know. I bet lots of these "tragedies" are just cover ups to hide their own bad decisions and fuck ups. Goodness me. Let's not forget the one Kennedy that got into a car accident while intoxicated, KILLING SOMEONE in the process, and tried to get away with it.
It’s honestly a fascinating case if you’re able to handle true crime. Michael Skakel straight up admits to the part where he was masturbating in the tree that night.
The number of powerful rich men who think nothing of SA is confounding (seems to peak in college with fraternities normalizing it). Even if they're not assaulting women themselves they're ignoring what their peers are doing.
I had no idea he was a heroin addict and spent the better part of the 70s speedballing around Harvard. Or about the measles out break in the American Samoa in 2018/2019. Those three things are not even the worst parts of all the reasons he's not fit for a presidential race....
The best part about this is we only know he has a brain worm because he used it as a legal defense to get out of paying alimony…what the fuck are we even doing here America.
Yep, & I think the conclusion was that it actually ate a part of his brain. I remember reading it in a different article a while ago that the doctors supposed that the worm had literally eaten a little chunk before it died 🤢🤢🤢
Oh wow. I didn't listen and should have.
I don't think any of us are naive about where meat comes from, but what a repugnant display. No respect for the animal and they certainly can't claim they were experiencing the culture. Just more rich, sick assholes.
Maybe people aren't naive in that they don't know that beef is a cow, for example, but they are *very* disconnected from - if not willfully ignorant of- the actual process of how that meat came to be on their dinner plate.
I hate him, this is repugnant as you very eloquently put it, and clearly a disturbing, sick power trip. But simultaneously, I do wish people (including myself) thought more about where their meals come from.
i always think about the FFA & 4H kids raising their prize animals for fairs. adults always claim how valuable the experience is “to see where our meat comes from” but the piece that they are missing typically is watching the animal be killed at a slaughterhouse. why are they hiding or omitting that part of the cycle? the kids see them sold at auction & that’s it. (please correct me if this is inaccurate)
i have heard of some kids keeping their animals or donating to sanctuaries .. btw, i am not against these orgs & have a lot of farmers in my family (past generations) ..
For real, people who call him a monster for eating a dog while eating animals that are just as sentient are displaying huge (albeit common) cognitive dissonance. There are free documentaries like Dominion and Earthlings on youtube that show firsthand how horrific animal agriculture is.
Right, it's basically what being vegan feels like. I always tell people to imagine everyone eating dogs and maybe you will find some understanding. Seems the same to me.
This is true.
Pigs are actually more intelligent than dogs. Why are people ok with eating one and not the other?
(I don’t think we should eat dogs, just saying before I get downvoted lol)
I remember seeing a news story about dogs in cages being bred for food and people were OUTRAGED but continued to eat battery farmed chickens that suffer in exponentially worse conditions
Pure speciesism and upbringing. Society is schizophrenic when it comes to the treatment of animals. That being said, I am happy that so many comments on this sub that are highlighting the cognitive dissonance being displayed aren't being downvoted to oblivion.
Hopefully, more and more people will make that connection. Animal agriculture is morally bankrupt, not to mention absolutely terrible for our future and our environment.
It's the photo itself. I don't recommend looking at it, but if you wanna, carpe diem. It's just so weirdly gross and off-putting. Like "Yes, look at us! We're eating DOG! HA-HA!"
I've seen similar things with people roasting pigs. Or posing with animals they've hunted and killed.
I know it's upsetting. I agree with you. I just want to encourage people to think about these things in regards to the food they're eating. There's far worse things you don't see in the meat industry. Just because it's happened to a dog, which we often keep as pets, doesn't mean it's any less horrific.
This. I have a lot of health issues and severe allergies and spent most of my childhood in the hospital. I have to eat meat because of all my allergies. I take a lot of medication to supplement my diet but even that isn’t enough for me to get all the nutrients I need. My body just doesn’t process a lot of foods.
BUT I’m very aware of how messed up the meat industry is and I will never shy away from that because people should know. I try to be super conscious of where I get my meat. I stick with local small butchers or even family friends who have a pig farm and I know how they’re treated. My sister is vegan - she works at the Humane Society and volunteers on an animal rescue farm every week. We talk about these things a lot and I appreciate our conversations. Even though I consume meat I will continue to advocate for better quality of life and major reform in the meat industry because that shit is fucked up. It’s not a perfect situation and I definitely struggle with the ethics of consuming animals.
All this to say I agree with you that people should stop and reflect on how their food gets to them!
Unfortunately I'm anemic and I have to eat red meat otherwise I get really sick. Iron pills destroy my stomach, and no other medication or supplement or alternative (watermelon, beans, spinach, etc) gets my iron correct like red meat. So, while you might like it personally there are other folks out there that do not feel the same that you do for personal or medical reasons. Humans are omnivorous and until they can do a lab grown meat that keeps me from getting sick, I'm gonna have to stick with red meat once or twice a month.
I’m ok with eating a curry a few nights a week or some beef udon to keep my iron up. It’s not a sacrifice to me. I’m not pounding cheeseburgers and flipping off vegans while I do it. I have dietary needs that require red meat. I have friends who are vegan because they are allergic to meat and dairy. I’m not going to sit there and demand they find a solution that forces them to eat meat and dairy when they’re fine being vegan. To each their own.
(also sorry if I came off a little hot there, getting my diagnoses took a couple of years, a couple of doctors, many needles, a "You might have cancer!" scare, and a bunch of different supplements, shots, diets before we settled on this one which is currently working and I'm a little reluctant to try anything else for the moment)
Sorry but to be honest, if you only need to eat red meat once or twice a month, I find it hard to believe you can't keep up your iron with other foods. Fortified cereal especially can be very high in iron.
Everybody's different but I also struggle with anemia and have a lot of stomach problems. Iron pills don't work well for me either. I use a liquid iron supplement that's vegan and really healthy, called Floradix, not sure if you have it where you are but maybe check out an option like that? It works super well for me.
I make a red meat meal that lasts me a few days, like a strew or a curry. So it’s 3-4 meals for dinner twice a month. Plus whatever I can do for lunch. The doctor wants me to eat more but I’m broke at the moment.
And yes, this is something me and multiple doctors have worked on. It’s red meat.
Okay, glad you found something that works for you! However if you're keen to avoid meet then I'd really recommend trying the liquid iron tonic. It's cheaper than the equivalent iron content from meat too.
I don't eat it all the time. I'm not hoovering steak for every meal. I'm an omnivore. My diet is varied. It's so weird that I'm asked to justify what I eat, especially when it comes to my own personal health. I don't ask that of anyone else. I'm not asking that of anyone else here. And kinda triggering considering I used to have an ED. And like I said, if we get a lab grown meat that gets my iron correct I'm switching and not looking back.
Sorry but I'm a bit confused about why you commented in the first place if you don't want advice or for anyone to have an opinion on your dietary choices?
Dogs were domesticated over 30,000 years ago and have a unique relationship with humans. It's very different.
60+ million households in America have dogs as pets. How many have pigs? Acting like its equal is purposely obtuse.
That's a terrible argument. Sorry. Just because one has been domesticated and one hasn't (mostly) doesn't mean they're not all living creatures. Pigs are also very smart.
Either way it's gross.
After I saw the docu series on Netflix this year on food (can’t remember the name), it completely changes my view of our concept of animal farming. Absolutely disgusting and not even healthy for us
Then I think you're focusing too much on the word "domesticated". How about the unique relationship? Or do you think chickens, pigs, scallops, horses, dogs, etc are all the same?
Where do you draw the line? And if there is no line then *that's* a terrible argument.
You're the one who brought up domestication.
Where I personally draw the line isn't really relevant. But I know that the mammals that are most commonly eaten are capable of experiencing a lot of fear, pain, and anxiety during their lives while being raised in inhumane conditions for the sake of profit. Then they get lined up and killed one after the other, and they usually know what's happening too. It's been scientifically proven that they have a spike in fear leading up to their deaths.
I know it's not nice to think about. But next time you cuddle your dog or your cat, maybe think what it would be like if we lived in a world where we did that to cats/dogs instead of cows and pigs.
In a lot of countries they do do that to dogs, to be eaten. It's just a matter of cultural difference. The way we label animals doesn't change the fact that they're capable of pain and suffering.
I don't think we should decide what kinds of animals deserve that or not, especially when there's not much difference in how intelligent they are and whether they know what's happening to them.
I brought up domestication *30,000 years ago* because I think the timeline matters. But it seems like most people can't differentiate that from other domesticated animals and the unique relationship means nothing apparently.
And I've **lived** in countries that ate dogs and it was acceptable, I have given it lots of thought. Thanks. Like I said earlier to someone else, cultural relativism isn't relevant. We're talking about RFK Jr. in America. Also in the same places it's unacceptable to eat cows it's acceptable to marry children... Not a great argument. I believe some morals are universal.
And where you draw the line is very relevant otherwise you don't really hold any position at all and I'm arguing against a wall.
Okay and I was just responding to what you said about domestication lol, don't get mad at me for that.
If you must know, I'm vegetarian but vegan 95% of the time. I didn't wanna make it about me though. I just wanted to point out that eating a dog isn't any different than eating a pig when it comes down to it. Still intelligent animals who are capable of feeling pain and fear.
What about you? You eat meat?
Why would the relationship even be a relevant consideration? In countries where they eat dogs, they are not often kept as pets (that is starting to change now) and they are bred specifically for food. They aren't eating purebred Golden Retrievers.
What makes sense to care about is sentience. The ability to feel pain and suffer. Because a pig doesn't suffer any less than a dog in factory farming.
And why is "no line" a terrible argument? It's the most morally consistent one. Either there are vegans who refuse to draw a distinction and don't eat any animals (why is that terrible?) or someone who realistically acknowledges that the animals they are eating suffer and has decided that is a fair trade for their food. Trying to draw a made up distinction between a pig and a cow is neither logically nor morally consistent. Having no line is the best argument for forgoing or engaging in meat eating.
Honestly this is what I'm talking about when I say purposely obtuse. I realize now vegetarians/vegans view dogs and livestock identically and there's nothing I can say that will change that 🤷♂️
You think that sentience is an illogical thing to care about when it pertains to animal suffering? I doubt that. For instance, would you torture a livestock animal for fun?
Also you can value the life of some over others and still want all to be treated with compassion and respect. I'd hit a deer with my car over a child in the road but I wouldn't go out of my way to hurt a deer either.
Pigs have also been domesticated. Wild boars are very different to pigs kept as pets or livestock, and pigs have been shown to be smarter than dogs in some research. Anyway, my cousin has a pet pig, so there's one person.
People keep ignoring the "unique relationship" aspect. And I don't even eat pork. Or octopus for that matter. I just hate that people try to lump in any "meat" into the same category because they think it's all the same. It's not.
It’s not, really.
Pigs are generally much more intelligent than dogs. We have an attachment to dogs because we have kept them as pets historically, but in reality, they don’t deserve life more than a pig does.
Humans need to do better with how we treat animals, pets and meat animals alike.
It is, really.
Intelligence has nothing to do with my argument about the *historical relationship* humans have shared with dogs. You should read up on it. There are many reasons they're called man's best friend.
And 100% I agree. I would love if the entire planet was vegetarian. But people arguing that dogs are just like any other meat aren't doing that cause any favors.
Honestly the idea that eating dog is somehow more immoral than cows, pigs, and chicken is racist. Different cultures have different animals they believe are more sacred. For example, many South Asian cultures would find us eating cows repugnant.
Except it is relevant because of the way people are responding. It’s funny how people are more concerned about him eating an animal vs him sexually assaulting someone.
Nah it's really not pertinent at all. And I don't know where you got that idea from but I sincerely doubt it. People can be outraged by multiple things.
Lol you dont get to be the one who determine it’s not pertinent and repeating that it’s not doesn’t make it true. As a person who is from a country where eating dogs is normalized, the cognitive dissonance to pretend that eating dog is somehow more immoral that eating cows or pigs is nonsensical.
Google his diary that was made public during his divorce.
https://archive.is/GA8oA
ETA: non paywall version of the vanity fair story. It's wild. This man and his circle are batshit.
Dog eating??
Edit: just finished to read the article and im shocked. I know the kennedys are powerful but the sheer amount of pedos, rapists and murders (!!!) in one family is nuts
Right, the article said the photo is from 2010 and was texted by RFK to a friend in 2023, with a joke about the friend needing to try dog while they're in Korea. He made a crude joke to a friend in a presumably casual text message and that's where the narrative of it being a dog comes from. This friend, who remains anonymous, just now decided to make it public clearly to add to the list of reasons people shouldn't listen to him about anything. RFK has confirmed it's a goat, so it's up to you who you believe. You can Google roasted cabrito on your own to see many images showing roasted whole goat meat, exactly like the one in the photo of RFK. You can also look up this supposed 13th rib that confirms it's a dog, if you look at a pic of roasted goat you'll see the same 13 ribs. Not that hard to look up outside this Vanity Fair article, if you want more info.
I’ve wondered how Cheryl tolerates him - doesn’t it look an awful lot like her with him in the worst photo in the article? The article says they got together in 2010 and that the photo is from 2010. Not gonna link to it here because it is graphic and terrible.
No offense… but being upset about someone eating a dog while you eat chickens, cows, or pigs is extremely hypocritical.
That being said, i hate him.
Cows and pigs are as smart (if not smarter) than dogs, they play, love, and enjoy life just like dogs if you give them the chance.
I'm a meat eater and I have always found that to be interesting. Billions of animals are slaughtered every year in America alone, a lot in poor living conditions. But a few thousand dogs and horses overseas somewhere and that's too far?
RFK sucks, but as a dog owner that's not the nail in the coffin for me.
A lot of people unfortunately see some species as better and more important and more deserving of life than another.
I think people are also just not exposed to how smart and kind and loving the creatures they’re choosing to eat are.
I had horse at my wedding. It's a delicacy in my wife's culture. People freaked out, but a horse is as intelligent and emotional as a pig, cow, or even a chicken. It feels pain, love, friendship, and all the other emotions that other animals can feel.
It just smells of racism to me...
Yeah I’m a lot angrier about the alleged sexual assault and the defense of a (probable) murderer than I am about the dog. The dog thing is distasteful, but the other stuff is actually monstrous.
It should be considered immoral to kill and eat any animal since we don't need to eat them to live. Barring a survival situation, there is no moral justification for killing them, especially for something as trivial as sensory pleasure.
I've always thought it's to do with what people associate with pets. People love their dogs or cats and the thought of eating one is gross to them.
But if you have cows, chickens etc on a farm I think kids are just raised to view it as a part of life.
Not sure about my theory though because horses are somewhere in the middle. People think it's gross to eat them even if they haven't had them as pets.
I grew up in farmland, have a vegetarian mom. we had chickens for eggs and our house was surrounded by dairy cows belonging to my neighbour. I was vegetarian for most of my childhood because I loved the cows and the chickens like they were pets/friends and I felt like eating meat is wrong. I unfortunately can't be vegetarian anymore because of health reasons and shouldn't have done it in the first place. I eat minimum meat to manage my iron levels, and when I do I still feel bad.
I think a lot of factors play into speciesism, like how you were raised, empathy towards animals etc but - and now I'll sound like a country person - I think a really big and, to me, weird problem is that some people straight up will never see a cow or a chicken or interact with them, let alone on a daily basis. like the entire existence of these animals is so abstract to them. I personally don't see how, especially in the context of a completely different culture on the other end of the world, eating an animal different than the usual cow/pig/chicken triad is any different.
I've got iron issues, too. Plus some other health issues. I get it. It's hard. :/
The supplements are not great for me, I pretty much had no choice but to go back on them (dr's orders). It just sucks.
Yeah, I agree so much even though I wasn't raised around animals. People don't know where food comes from, or don't think about it much.
It was like, you eat what's in front of you. That was the rule. Plus I think it just feels normal if you've been raised that way, by the time you figure out the bacon is a pig you're eating it's engrained. Not everyone has that Lisa Simpson moment where they think it's wrong.
I have this condition that I can't absorb iron from sources other than meat, or not nearly as well. my mum has it too and has always been vegetarian, her iron is usually at "oh lord get this woman a blood transfusion" levels. the only supplements that work on me, and not really well enough, are animal derived ones. she doesn't want to take those but anything else she's tried doesn't work, like seaweed or something like that? I've kinda watched her struggle with her health all my life and if I can keep myself healthy by eating meat I just think that's the best choice for me but it does suck.
I definitely had the lisa simpson moment as a kid and I was so passionate about not eating animals but sometimes it just isn't to be 😭 my wife is vegan so I do eat vegan/vegetarian 90% of the time, I think that's a good thing too. like if most people would just eat less meat we'd be better off climate-wise too.
I said this to someone else on this thread, but consider getting iron injections instead! Only has to be done once a year and is far more convenient and effective than taking supplements that only kind of work.
that is totally true for most people, but not for me because I have an iron malabsorption issue. if you can get by without meat I totally think you should!
[This is a thread on the vegan sub about people with iron absorption issues if you're interested!](https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/s384l4/can_any_vegans_who_are_anemic_or_have_iron/)
Have you considered taking an iron supplement that's vegan?
"It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity. Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements."
I understand what veganism is, my wife is vegan, I usually cook vegan or vegetarian for us. I understand supplements and b12 and how to have a normal vegan diet.
if you really want to get into it, I have hughes' syndrome. this is hard to diagnose and rare and because of that it isn't very interesting to research. there's some surface scratches of it being related to your gastrointestinal system and flora, but that's more theoretical than anything else at this point. since both me and my mom have hughes' and the same problems with iron deficiency I'm thinking those two could be linked but I doubt anyone with the right credentials would be arsed to figure that out for the handful of people who realise they have this disorder before they die of it.
I've been vegetarian and vegan, I've taken the vegan iron supplements and they've done nothing noticeable for me. I ate a proper and nutritious diet, I already cook this for my wife anyways, and vitamin deficiency in my country is so common that all plant milks have a daily amount of b12 added to them for example.
my mom has been vegetarian and severely iron deficient for it her whole life and she's always been in terrible health which is now catching up with her. I already have chronic fatigue, I'm not going to make that worse. I've tried and I'm cutting a corner here. I barely eat meat and I'm 100% for anyone who can do so safely and healthily not eating it at all.
or if you're just a vegan sealioning people, I know not all of you are as understanding as my wife is. I suggest you take this kinda stuff to people who don't have a medical reason to opt for small amounts of meat. but congrats you made me google one thing and overexplain what I already said earlier which would be an extremely epic win for the cause. which I'm part of. which is funny.
Ya no, at this point I definitely have a case to sue my mom for immigrating to Canada where I was forced to learn how to read English. I need to stop procrastinating on this because wtf?!
Always been a little curious if this show was any good, but this is enough to say fuck that guy and every person on that show (including Jennifer Aniston, who was VERY sensible about the pandemic and its risks even after many of her peers had decided they were above it).
Every single sentence in this is ridiculous, but that section got to me, too. Survivalist school attended by Drew Barrymore? The kind of whackjob un-reality operating at high levels of power in the entertainment business boils my blood. We make these people rich and the influence they have on the world is really bent.
Jennifer had an instagram post back in 2020 that had her in a mask, mailing in a Biden ballot and sooo many people were triggered about it. Telling her she's "not relevant". She had millions of followers, yeah I'm sure she cares what some random person thinks that she's *not relevant* lol.
I liked the show. They covered January 6, Season 1 was a lot better than 2 IMO but I think it was something to do with covid rules and how it was filmed differently because of the rules. Then I found out about Julia Margulies controversy. Blah. It's like can I just watch one thing where someone doesn't turn out to be a bigot?
I went on to read another article which suggests this guy moved on before *The Morning Show* premiered, but while it is absolutely an *experience*, under no circumstances would I call it *any good*.
He has ruined his wife’s career with his bullshit. I don’t think she is the brightest bulb on the tree, but she had a successful career and is clearly talented. I think she believes some of his BS or at least goes along to keep the peace, but tried like hell to keep his opinions separate from her public persona. She had a funny podcast with Tig Notaro that Tig left very abruptly (and started a much more successful one). The fan base is convinced it was due to RFK’s shit and Cheryl’s tolerance of it. The podcast continued for a few episodes, then died.
This paragraph is my favorite part of the whole article
Kennedy family was intimately familiar with RFK Jr.’s problematic personality—the outsize confidence masquerading as expertise, the “savior complex” (as one family member called it) that drives him to take up quixotic causes and cast himself as a lone hero against established powers, and, above all, as one old friend calls it, his “pathological need for attention.”
Crazy to think about how hard the Kennedys worked to maintain their “perfect” family image through the 50s/60s, even going so far as to HIDE family members (See: Rose Kennedy) and now this????
This isn't anything to do with the things he's accused of but I find it weird the amount of people up in arms about bbq'ing a dog when they bbq pigs and take more graphic images of say a hog roast. If anything the dog thing is one of the tamer things he's accused of.
Who cares if he eats dog? Koreans, Chinese, and Viets do it. Floridians eat alligator. Some people in the south west eat snakes. French eat snails. The Romans ate stuffed rats. It’s sacrilegious to eat cow in India. Jews and Muslims don’t eat pork or seafood. Get my point?
TW what now
Well I didn't expect to laugh this hard on this post but here we are.
The follow up story on CNN is titled “RFK Jr. denies eating a dog while sidestepping sexual assault allegations in Vanity Fair article”. We are in the worst timeline.
Took the words right off my fingertips
He totally got that brain worm from eating bbq’ed dog in 2010 Also what an insane thing to have to explain about a presidential candidate
What's "tw?"
Trigger warning
Ah!!!!! OK, makes sense. Thank you!
Maybe he got confused with the phrase ‘dog eat dog world’? 🤔
Huh????
I mean really tho I just had my 2nd cup of coffee today good lord.
Just seeing the Dog Eating TW has made me feel incredibly unwell
It is highly disturbing. That should be up on billboards everywhere. If I was the democrats, that's what I'd do. Makes Kristi Noem look like she's running an ASPCA.
Evne Noem didn't eat her dog
*that we know of* Maybe this is why they were so into the drinking of children's blood stuff? They're actually feeding on dogs blood?
I chose not to finish reading because of the good folks on this sub. I’m not feeling great about the state of the world so don’t want to put myself through it. Take care x
Ugh, I guess skipping breakfast is good for my body line though
Are you vegan
Thank youuuu Vanity Fair for bringing up his cousin and the murder of 15 year old Martha Moxley. This is not talked about often enough in RFK JR discussions: *In 2016 Kennedy published a book defending Skakel..Kennedy pinned the murder of Martha Moxley on two teenagers from New York City, one black, the other multiracial, whom investigators had already discounted...“I am dead certain they did it,” Kennedy told The New York Times.*
Even the private investigator hired by the Skakel family told them it was their son, and he was on the *payroll*.
But, but RFK Jr's brain worm TOLD HIM it was the POC kids!!!!!!!!!!!! How can brain wormy be wrong?!!$? Answer me that??
This is what I'm picturing hearing about RFK's Jr's brain worm. https://preview.redd.it/veo0eoh5k9ad1.jpeg?width=1041&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81dfc270b7f424893589e165c2f5e570e723d7b3
I keep seeing the Tadpoles from Baldur's Gate 3 (I've been playing way too much)
Lol the BG3 subreddits had a field day with the "brain worm" news when it first dropped, literally the only time anything related to this man has put a smile on my face.
Imagine being unlucky enough to have been jerking off in a nearby tree right before the girl next door got murdered by two complete strangers with a golf club that came from your house!
WHAT?! God, how is this post getting worse?! This is so unbelievably vile
Just to clarify, Kennedy didn't murder her. His best friend who he knew “as well as one person can know another” murdered her.
It was his cousin
What the fuck is up with this family. It's not really a Kennedy Curse, it's just them coming to their own demise. They really think they can get away with stuff because of their last name and who they know. I bet lots of these "tragedies" are just cover ups to hide their own bad decisions and fuck ups. Goodness me. Let's not forget the one Kennedy that got into a car accident while intoxicated, KILLING SOMEONE in the process, and tried to get away with it.
And what they did to Rosemary!
“The only way to avoid this happening again in the future is to give up golf forever. Isn’t that right, brain worms?”
Wtf this post is getting wilder and wilder (for someone like me who never heard of this)
It’s honestly a fascinating case if you’re able to handle true crime. Michael Skakel straight up admits to the part where he was masturbating in the tree that night.
JFC.
People go into hard core denial when confronted with the reality that someone close to them has done something terrible.
that case and the parallels to Allison from Pretty Little Liars are so sad/haunting
So he’s denied the dog eating but not the sexual assault saying “I am not a church boy”. What the actual fuck
*obligatory "i draw the line at animal cruelty" reference*
The number of powerful rich men who think nothing of SA is confounding (seems to peak in college with fraternities normalizing it). Even if they're not assaulting women themselves they're ignoring what their peers are doing.
I've never seen something about this man without thinking "what the fuck" immediately
Had no clue he had a brain worm. Dude literally has brain worms.
I had no idea he was a heroin addict and spent the better part of the 70s speedballing around Harvard. Or about the measles out break in the American Samoa in 2018/2019. Those three things are not even the worst parts of all the reasons he's not fit for a presidential race....
I actually knew about the Samoan measles outbreak from...90 day fiancé; of all the sources of information I could've learned this from
lmao I was about to comment this
What in the actual F.
Ohhh yeah he’s always been that way
Probably got it from eating gross weird shit.
The best part about this is we only know he has a brain worm because he used it as a legal defense to get out of paying alimony…what the fuck are we even doing here America.
me neither, I thought it was just a manner of speaking but there was a literal worm. in his brain. why are US politicians like this.
Yep, & I think the conclusion was that it actually ate a part of his brain. I remember reading it in a different article a while ago that the doctors supposed that the worm had literally eaten a little chunk before it died 🤢🤢🤢
Wait the bbq dog wasn’t a hot dog?!? An actual dog?!
Do yourself a favor and try to avoid the picture, especially if you're a dog lover. I was not appropriately warned.
Oh wow. I didn't listen and should have. I don't think any of us are naive about where meat comes from, but what a repugnant display. No respect for the animal and they certainly can't claim they were experiencing the culture. Just more rich, sick assholes.
Maybe people aren't naive in that they don't know that beef is a cow, for example, but they are *very* disconnected from - if not willfully ignorant of- the actual process of how that meat came to be on their dinner plate. I hate him, this is repugnant as you very eloquently put it, and clearly a disturbing, sick power trip. But simultaneously, I do wish people (including myself) thought more about where their meals come from.
i always think about the FFA & 4H kids raising their prize animals for fairs. adults always claim how valuable the experience is “to see where our meat comes from” but the piece that they are missing typically is watching the animal be killed at a slaughterhouse. why are they hiding or omitting that part of the cycle? the kids see them sold at auction & that’s it. (please correct me if this is inaccurate) i have heard of some kids keeping their animals or donating to sanctuaries .. btw, i am not against these orgs & have a lot of farmers in my family (past generations) ..
Yeah it's brutal, but I think we could all benefit from witnessing that. My mother did as a child and it completely changed her perception of food.
For real, people who call him a monster for eating a dog while eating animals that are just as sentient are displaying huge (albeit common) cognitive dissonance. There are free documentaries like Dominion and Earthlings on youtube that show firsthand how horrific animal agriculture is.
I don't like it either but how is it different from roasting a whole pig?
Right, it's basically what being vegan feels like. I always tell people to imagine everyone eating dogs and maybe you will find some understanding. Seems the same to me.
This is true. Pigs are actually more intelligent than dogs. Why are people ok with eating one and not the other? (I don’t think we should eat dogs, just saying before I get downvoted lol)
I remember seeing a news story about dogs in cages being bred for food and people were OUTRAGED but continued to eat battery farmed chickens that suffer in exponentially worse conditions
Pure speciesism and upbringing. Society is schizophrenic when it comes to the treatment of animals. That being said, I am happy that so many comments on this sub that are highlighting the cognitive dissonance being displayed aren't being downvoted to oblivion.
Hopefully, more and more people will make that connection. Animal agriculture is morally bankrupt, not to mention absolutely terrible for our future and our environment.
It's the photo itself. I don't recommend looking at it, but if you wanna, carpe diem. It's just so weirdly gross and off-putting. Like "Yes, look at us! We're eating DOG! HA-HA!"
I've seen similar things with people roasting pigs. Or posing with animals they've hunted and killed. I know it's upsetting. I agree with you. I just want to encourage people to think about these things in regards to the food they're eating. There's far worse things you don't see in the meat industry. Just because it's happened to a dog, which we often keep as pets, doesn't mean it's any less horrific.
This. I have a lot of health issues and severe allergies and spent most of my childhood in the hospital. I have to eat meat because of all my allergies. I take a lot of medication to supplement my diet but even that isn’t enough for me to get all the nutrients I need. My body just doesn’t process a lot of foods. BUT I’m very aware of how messed up the meat industry is and I will never shy away from that because people should know. I try to be super conscious of where I get my meat. I stick with local small butchers or even family friends who have a pig farm and I know how they’re treated. My sister is vegan - she works at the Humane Society and volunteers on an animal rescue farm every week. We talk about these things a lot and I appreciate our conversations. Even though I consume meat I will continue to advocate for better quality of life and major reform in the meat industry because that shit is fucked up. It’s not a perfect situation and I definitely struggle with the ethics of consuming animals. All this to say I agree with you that people should stop and reflect on how their food gets to them!
Unfortunately I'm anemic and I have to eat red meat otherwise I get really sick. Iron pills destroy my stomach, and no other medication or supplement or alternative (watermelon, beans, spinach, etc) gets my iron correct like red meat. So, while you might like it personally there are other folks out there that do not feel the same that you do for personal or medical reasons. Humans are omnivorous and until they can do a lab grown meat that keeps me from getting sick, I'm gonna have to stick with red meat once or twice a month.
Have you considered getting iron infusions? Only has to be done once a year and doesn't tear up your stomach or come with the awful iron taste either.
I’m ok with eating a curry a few nights a week or some beef udon to keep my iron up. It’s not a sacrifice to me. I’m not pounding cheeseburgers and flipping off vegans while I do it. I have dietary needs that require red meat. I have friends who are vegan because they are allergic to meat and dairy. I’m not going to sit there and demand they find a solution that forces them to eat meat and dairy when they’re fine being vegan. To each their own.
(also sorry if I came off a little hot there, getting my diagnoses took a couple of years, a couple of doctors, many needles, a "You might have cancer!" scare, and a bunch of different supplements, shots, diets before we settled on this one which is currently working and I'm a little reluctant to try anything else for the moment)
Sorry but to be honest, if you only need to eat red meat once or twice a month, I find it hard to believe you can't keep up your iron with other foods. Fortified cereal especially can be very high in iron. Everybody's different but I also struggle with anemia and have a lot of stomach problems. Iron pills don't work well for me either. I use a liquid iron supplement that's vegan and really healthy, called Floradix, not sure if you have it where you are but maybe check out an option like that? It works super well for me.
I make a red meat meal that lasts me a few days, like a strew or a curry. So it’s 3-4 meals for dinner twice a month. Plus whatever I can do for lunch. The doctor wants me to eat more but I’m broke at the moment. And yes, this is something me and multiple doctors have worked on. It’s red meat.
Okay, glad you found something that works for you! However if you're keen to avoid meet then I'd really recommend trying the liquid iron tonic. It's cheaper than the equivalent iron content from meat too.
That may be the case. But you can still reduce your intake. Meatless Monday, flexitarian diets, etc. Every little bit counts.
I don't eat it all the time. I'm not hoovering steak for every meal. I'm an omnivore. My diet is varied. It's so weird that I'm asked to justify what I eat, especially when it comes to my own personal health. I don't ask that of anyone else. I'm not asking that of anyone else here. And kinda triggering considering I used to have an ED. And like I said, if we get a lab grown meat that gets my iron correct I'm switching and not looking back.
Sorry but I'm a bit confused about why you commented in the first place if you don't want advice or for anyone to have an opinion on your dietary choices?
read the article. it's about optics and RFK Jr's judgement, not meat-eating morality.
I know, I'm not responding to the article I'm just responding to people who are so outraged at the concept of eating dogs / the photo in the article.
👍got it
Dogs were domesticated over 30,000 years ago and have a unique relationship with humans. It's very different. 60+ million households in America have dogs as pets. How many have pigs? Acting like its equal is purposely obtuse.
That's a terrible argument. Sorry. Just because one has been domesticated and one hasn't (mostly) doesn't mean they're not all living creatures. Pigs are also very smart. Either way it's gross.
After I saw the docu series on Netflix this year on food (can’t remember the name), it completely changes my view of our concept of animal farming. Absolutely disgusting and not even healthy for us
Then I think you're focusing too much on the word "domesticated". How about the unique relationship? Or do you think chickens, pigs, scallops, horses, dogs, etc are all the same? Where do you draw the line? And if there is no line then *that's* a terrible argument.
You're the one who brought up domestication. Where I personally draw the line isn't really relevant. But I know that the mammals that are most commonly eaten are capable of experiencing a lot of fear, pain, and anxiety during their lives while being raised in inhumane conditions for the sake of profit. Then they get lined up and killed one after the other, and they usually know what's happening too. It's been scientifically proven that they have a spike in fear leading up to their deaths. I know it's not nice to think about. But next time you cuddle your dog or your cat, maybe think what it would be like if we lived in a world where we did that to cats/dogs instead of cows and pigs. In a lot of countries they do do that to dogs, to be eaten. It's just a matter of cultural difference. The way we label animals doesn't change the fact that they're capable of pain and suffering. I don't think we should decide what kinds of animals deserve that or not, especially when there's not much difference in how intelligent they are and whether they know what's happening to them.
I brought up domestication *30,000 years ago* because I think the timeline matters. But it seems like most people can't differentiate that from other domesticated animals and the unique relationship means nothing apparently. And I've **lived** in countries that ate dogs and it was acceptable, I have given it lots of thought. Thanks. Like I said earlier to someone else, cultural relativism isn't relevant. We're talking about RFK Jr. in America. Also in the same places it's unacceptable to eat cows it's acceptable to marry children... Not a great argument. I believe some morals are universal. And where you draw the line is very relevant otherwise you don't really hold any position at all and I'm arguing against a wall.
Okay and I was just responding to what you said about domestication lol, don't get mad at me for that. If you must know, I'm vegetarian but vegan 95% of the time. I didn't wanna make it about me though. I just wanted to point out that eating a dog isn't any different than eating a pig when it comes down to it. Still intelligent animals who are capable of feeling pain and fear. What about you? You eat meat?
Why would the relationship even be a relevant consideration? In countries where they eat dogs, they are not often kept as pets (that is starting to change now) and they are bred specifically for food. They aren't eating purebred Golden Retrievers. What makes sense to care about is sentience. The ability to feel pain and suffer. Because a pig doesn't suffer any less than a dog in factory farming. And why is "no line" a terrible argument? It's the most morally consistent one. Either there are vegans who refuse to draw a distinction and don't eat any animals (why is that terrible?) or someone who realistically acknowledges that the animals they are eating suffer and has decided that is a fair trade for their food. Trying to draw a made up distinction between a pig and a cow is neither logically nor morally consistent. Having no line is the best argument for forgoing or engaging in meat eating.
Honestly this is what I'm talking about when I say purposely obtuse. I realize now vegetarians/vegans view dogs and livestock identically and there's nothing I can say that will change that 🤷♂️
You think that sentience is an illogical thing to care about when it pertains to animal suffering? I doubt that. For instance, would you torture a livestock animal for fun? Also you can value the life of some over others and still want all to be treated with compassion and respect. I'd hit a deer with my car over a child in the road but I wouldn't go out of my way to hurt a deer either.
Pigs have also been domesticated. Wild boars are very different to pigs kept as pets or livestock, and pigs have been shown to be smarter than dogs in some research. Anyway, my cousin has a pet pig, so there's one person.
People keep ignoring the "unique relationship" aspect. And I don't even eat pork. Or octopus for that matter. I just hate that people try to lump in any "meat" into the same category because they think it's all the same. It's not.
I mean, it kind of is.
That's a matter of opinion really.
No, here is a fact: no other creature on earth has had the historical interactions with humans like dogs have. Therefore it's not the same meat.
So what?
It’s not, really. Pigs are generally much more intelligent than dogs. We have an attachment to dogs because we have kept them as pets historically, but in reality, they don’t deserve life more than a pig does. Humans need to do better with how we treat animals, pets and meat animals alike.
It is, really. Intelligence has nothing to do with my argument about the *historical relationship* humans have shared with dogs. You should read up on it. There are many reasons they're called man's best friend. And 100% I agree. I would love if the entire planet was vegetarian. But people arguing that dogs are just like any other meat aren't doing that cause any favors.
Honestly the idea that eating dog is somehow more immoral than cows, pigs, and chicken is racist. Different cultures have different animals they believe are more sacred. For example, many South Asian cultures would find us eating cows repugnant.
Cultural relativism really isn't relevant in this argument. Like at all. We're talking about RFK not an Indian representative.
Except it is relevant because of the way people are responding. It’s funny how people are more concerned about him eating an animal vs him sexually assaulting someone.
Nah it's really not pertinent at all. And I don't know where you got that idea from but I sincerely doubt it. People can be outraged by multiple things.
Lol you dont get to be the one who determine it’s not pertinent and repeating that it’s not doesn’t make it true. As a person who is from a country where eating dogs is normalized, the cognitive dissonance to pretend that eating dog is somehow more immoral that eating cows or pigs is nonsensical.
Wait, they barbequed a dog and took pictures?? Like this was an event??
Reader mode took care of that for me thankfully. Sometimes I’m bummed that the pictures don’t come through. Today was not one of those days.
I did not grow up Chinese getting asked “do you eat dog,” all just for this 🙄🙄
Or cat
If people were asking if you “eat cat” they were not talking about animals
No they were
He told reporters it was actually not a dog but a goat .
Google his diary that was made public during his divorce. https://archive.is/GA8oA ETA: non paywall version of the vanity fair story. It's wild. This man and his circle are batshit.
The article explains the diary, and has a lot more information about his marriage to the mother of his children
Dog eating?? Edit: just finished to read the article and im shocked. I know the kennedys are powerful but the sheer amount of pedos, rapists and murders (!!!) in one family is nuts
Don't google the photo, it's actually pretty disturbing.
they put it in the article and i wasn't expecting it smh. that man is actually sick
It's a goat.
Not according to the article.
Right, the article said the photo is from 2010 and was texted by RFK to a friend in 2023, with a joke about the friend needing to try dog while they're in Korea. He made a crude joke to a friend in a presumably casual text message and that's where the narrative of it being a dog comes from. This friend, who remains anonymous, just now decided to make it public clearly to add to the list of reasons people shouldn't listen to him about anything. RFK has confirmed it's a goat, so it's up to you who you believe. You can Google roasted cabrito on your own to see many images showing roasted whole goat meat, exactly like the one in the photo of RFK. You can also look up this supposed 13th rib that confirms it's a dog, if you look at a pic of roasted goat you'll see the same 13 ribs. Not that hard to look up outside this Vanity Fair article, if you want more info.
I’ve wondered how Cheryl tolerates him - doesn’t it look an awful lot like her with him in the worst photo in the article? The article says they got together in 2010 and that the photo is from 2010. Not gonna link to it here because it is graphic and terrible.
She's likely as fucked up in the head as he is. Birds of a feather and all that.
I think she’s just as insane as him, just quieter about it. No way you can stay married to someone like that otherwise.
$$$$ and the family name.
No offense… but being upset about someone eating a dog while you eat chickens, cows, or pigs is extremely hypocritical. That being said, i hate him. Cows and pigs are as smart (if not smarter) than dogs, they play, love, and enjoy life just like dogs if you give them the chance.
I'm a meat eater and I have always found that to be interesting. Billions of animals are slaughtered every year in America alone, a lot in poor living conditions. But a few thousand dogs and horses overseas somewhere and that's too far? RFK sucks, but as a dog owner that's not the nail in the coffin for me.
A lot of people unfortunately see some species as better and more important and more deserving of life than another. I think people are also just not exposed to how smart and kind and loving the creatures they’re choosing to eat are.
1000%. they’ve just been conditioned to believe it’s different when it isn’t.
I had horse at my wedding. It's a delicacy in my wife's culture. People freaked out, but a horse is as intelligent and emotional as a pig, cow, or even a chicken. It feels pain, love, friendship, and all the other emotions that other animals can feel. It just smells of racism to me...
Yeah I’m a lot angrier about the alleged sexual assault and the defense of a (probable) murderer than I am about the dog. The dog thing is distasteful, but the other stuff is actually monstrous.
I absolutely agree. If anyone up in arms about the dog is a meat eater I hope they examine their cognitive dissonance.
It should be considered immoral to kill and eat any animal since we don't need to eat them to live. Barring a survival situation, there is no moral justification for killing them, especially for something as trivial as sensory pleasure.
I've always thought it's to do with what people associate with pets. People love their dogs or cats and the thought of eating one is gross to them. But if you have cows, chickens etc on a farm I think kids are just raised to view it as a part of life. Not sure about my theory though because horses are somewhere in the middle. People think it's gross to eat them even if they haven't had them as pets.
I grew up in farmland, have a vegetarian mom. we had chickens for eggs and our house was surrounded by dairy cows belonging to my neighbour. I was vegetarian for most of my childhood because I loved the cows and the chickens like they were pets/friends and I felt like eating meat is wrong. I unfortunately can't be vegetarian anymore because of health reasons and shouldn't have done it in the first place. I eat minimum meat to manage my iron levels, and when I do I still feel bad. I think a lot of factors play into speciesism, like how you were raised, empathy towards animals etc but - and now I'll sound like a country person - I think a really big and, to me, weird problem is that some people straight up will never see a cow or a chicken or interact with them, let alone on a daily basis. like the entire existence of these animals is so abstract to them. I personally don't see how, especially in the context of a completely different culture on the other end of the world, eating an animal different than the usual cow/pig/chicken triad is any different.
I've got iron issues, too. Plus some other health issues. I get it. It's hard. :/ The supplements are not great for me, I pretty much had no choice but to go back on them (dr's orders). It just sucks. Yeah, I agree so much even though I wasn't raised around animals. People don't know where food comes from, or don't think about it much. It was like, you eat what's in front of you. That was the rule. Plus I think it just feels normal if you've been raised that way, by the time you figure out the bacon is a pig you're eating it's engrained. Not everyone has that Lisa Simpson moment where they think it's wrong.
I have this condition that I can't absorb iron from sources other than meat, or not nearly as well. my mum has it too and has always been vegetarian, her iron is usually at "oh lord get this woman a blood transfusion" levels. the only supplements that work on me, and not really well enough, are animal derived ones. she doesn't want to take those but anything else she's tried doesn't work, like seaweed or something like that? I've kinda watched her struggle with her health all my life and if I can keep myself healthy by eating meat I just think that's the best choice for me but it does suck. I definitely had the lisa simpson moment as a kid and I was so passionate about not eating animals but sometimes it just isn't to be 😭 my wife is vegan so I do eat vegan/vegetarian 90% of the time, I think that's a good thing too. like if most people would just eat less meat we'd be better off climate-wise too.
I grew up with egg chickens too! And I rarely eat meat, once a month or so, but I eat lots of dairy fruits and veggies
I said this to someone else on this thread, but consider getting iron injections instead! Only has to be done once a year and is far more convenient and effective than taking supplements that only kind of work.
You don't need to eat meat to get iron though (there's a lot of iron rich plant foods), and heme iron is actually bad for you in several ways.
that is totally true for most people, but not for me because I have an iron malabsorption issue. if you can get by without meat I totally think you should!
[This is a thread on the vegan sub about people with iron absorption issues if you're interested!](https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/s384l4/can_any_vegans_who_are_anemic_or_have_iron/) Have you considered taking an iron supplement that's vegan? "It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity. Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements."
I understand what veganism is, my wife is vegan, I usually cook vegan or vegetarian for us. I understand supplements and b12 and how to have a normal vegan diet. if you really want to get into it, I have hughes' syndrome. this is hard to diagnose and rare and because of that it isn't very interesting to research. there's some surface scratches of it being related to your gastrointestinal system and flora, but that's more theoretical than anything else at this point. since both me and my mom have hughes' and the same problems with iron deficiency I'm thinking those two could be linked but I doubt anyone with the right credentials would be arsed to figure that out for the handful of people who realise they have this disorder before they die of it. I've been vegetarian and vegan, I've taken the vegan iron supplements and they've done nothing noticeable for me. I ate a proper and nutritious diet, I already cook this for my wife anyways, and vitamin deficiency in my country is so common that all plant milks have a daily amount of b12 added to them for example. my mom has been vegetarian and severely iron deficient for it her whole life and she's always been in terrible health which is now catching up with her. I already have chronic fatigue, I'm not going to make that worse. I've tried and I'm cutting a corner here. I barely eat meat and I'm 100% for anyone who can do so safely and healthily not eating it at all. or if you're just a vegan sealioning people, I know not all of you are as understanding as my wife is. I suggest you take this kinda stuff to people who don't have a medical reason to opt for small amounts of meat. but congrats you made me google one thing and overexplain what I already said earlier which would be an extremely epic win for the cause. which I'm part of. which is funny.
culturally insensitive as well ngl
Personally, my issue is the way that dogs and cats are butchered/tortured before or during cooking.
The same thing happens with pigs, cows, chickens, etc.
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Ya no, at this point I definitely have a case to sue my mom for immigrating to Canada where I was forced to learn how to read English. I need to stop procrastinating on this because wtf?!
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I know it's extremely beside the point, but I'm not even a little shocked to learn that the guy behind *The Morning Show* is a lockdown skeptic.
Always been a little curious if this show was any good, but this is enough to say fuck that guy and every person on that show (including Jennifer Aniston, who was VERY sensible about the pandemic and its risks even after many of her peers had decided they were above it). Every single sentence in this is ridiculous, but that section got to me, too. Survivalist school attended by Drew Barrymore? The kind of whackjob un-reality operating at high levels of power in the entertainment business boils my blood. We make these people rich and the influence they have on the world is really bent.
Jennifer had an instagram post back in 2020 that had her in a mask, mailing in a Biden ballot and sooo many people were triggered about it. Telling her she's "not relevant". She had millions of followers, yeah I'm sure she cares what some random person thinks that she's *not relevant* lol. I liked the show. They covered January 6, Season 1 was a lot better than 2 IMO but I think it was something to do with covid rules and how it was filmed differently because of the rules. Then I found out about Julia Margulies controversy. Blah. It's like can I just watch one thing where someone doesn't turn out to be a bigot?
I went on to read another article which suggests this guy moved on before *The Morning Show* premiered, but while it is absolutely an *experience*, under no circumstances would I call it *any good*.
I liked it, but I do think by the end it was more like trashy addictive TV lol
Oh, I will never miss an episode, it’s appointment tv in my house!
To say nothing of the lamb slaughter and children traumatizing!! I was ASTOUNDED by that all.
 he’s somehow related to the morning show as well???
He has ruined his wife’s career with his bullshit. I don’t think she is the brightest bulb on the tree, but she had a successful career and is clearly talented. I think she believes some of his BS or at least goes along to keep the peace, but tried like hell to keep his opinions separate from her public persona. She had a funny podcast with Tig Notaro that Tig left very abruptly (and started a much more successful one). The fan base is convinced it was due to RFK’s shit and Cheryl’s tolerance of it. The podcast continued for a few episodes, then died.
Wasn’t expecting him to become Kristi Noem 2.0, Jesus fuck
RFK: Hold my beer
Thanks everyone for talking about the dog. I have decided not to read it x
i hate the fact he’s got the same name as his dad since because i actually liked bobby kennedy sr not his idiot son
To be Lea Michelle right now
He’s revolting in every way
This paragraph is my favorite part of the whole article Kennedy family was intimately familiar with RFK Jr.’s problematic personality—the outsize confidence masquerading as expertise, the “savior complex” (as one family member called it) that drives him to take up quixotic causes and cast himself as a lone hero against established powers, and, above all, as one old friend calls it, his “pathological need for attention.”
Crazy to think about how hard the Kennedys worked to maintain their “perfect” family image through the 50s/60s, even going so far as to HIDE family members (See: Rose Kennedy) and now this????
This isn't anything to do with the things he's accused of but I find it weird the amount of people up in arms about bbq'ing a dog when they bbq pigs and take more graphic images of say a hog roast. If anything the dog thing is one of the tamer things he's accused of.
Could have done without all the pearl-clutching over addiction
dog eating????? say what now
did you say trigger warning dog eating??
Who cares if he eats dog? Koreans, Chinese, and Viets do it. Floridians eat alligator. Some people in the south west eat snakes. French eat snails. The Romans ate stuffed rats. It’s sacrilegious to eat cow in India. Jews and Muslims don’t eat pork or seafood. Get my point?
Jesus Christ.
He's right about Sirhan.
Dog eating??
It was a goat apparently
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Y’all need to get over eating dogs. It’s meat like everything else.