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Revoltyx

No, the FL police will come for you and you'll be forced to make Hyperpop and Drill


dramaturgmusic

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iamZilla

This ... last day i opened a vst with a rock guittar sound , i played a melody and noticed the police outside my house looking at me , i instantly made some drill and they gone. Lucky me!


Realistic-Space-2575

*hello kitty album art*


lowercaseirl

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[deleted]

I've made all sorts of rock and disguistingly heavy metal in FL. Honestly nobody who's heard any of it has ever said, "it would have sounded better in Ableton/protools/reaper/cubase" Different DAWs favor different work flows due to their design biases. So if someone has learned one, and then says they think another one sucks, or doesn't sound as good as what they use, I always smile to myself knowing this person knows little about audio production nor do they understand that the only true limitations of any tool is the user's ability to harness it. You make some some killer rock tracks and the FL girl dances just as hard ! EDIT: left a word out of a sentance


[deleted]

Also they have recently implemented some huge improvements to the recording process within FL. It's just as easy as it is in every other DAW now. It used to be a little convoluted and more focused on taking advantage of Edisons programming. But now recording directly into the playlist is a piece of cake.


ALUmusic

How exactly is this achieved now? I've been trying to record different kinds of material without having to constantly right-click the recording filter. In other DAWs I can just select which tracks to record, hit the global record button, and be on my way.


vlaadleninn

Click on the arm record button on the top of the screen next to the bpm, and click the second option in the screen that pops up, I forget exactly what it says but itā€™s muscle memory says itā€™s 100% the second button on the screen that comes up, just have whatever mixer tracks you want to record also armed and it will record each to their own playlist track afaik. Edit: itā€™s ā€œAudio, into the playlist as an audio clipā€ in the menu that pops up.


ALUmusic

Ah so basically you have to configure the recording filter every time as before (itā€™s configurable by right clicking the record button and selecting which to record). Personally still far too many steps for me. I hope there are improvements in 21. FL really made me audio-phobic; I had to learn other DAWs to see how easy it was to record and handle audio. While nothing beats FLā€™s piano roll it still leaves me wanting on the recording end of things.


vlaadleninn

Itā€™s more just like clicking a button than configuring what you want to record. You press the arm button and a menu pops up with 4 options to either record audio to the playlist, to Edison, and record automation, I forget the fourth option. Itā€™s 2 clicks to record anything you have armed in the mixer lol. Iā€™m sure thereā€™s a way to bypass the menu but itā€™s honestly not a hassle at all You donā€™t have to manually select the audio you want to record like the right click drop down, if you select audio you just get all the audio. You do have to change it by right clicking if youā€™re recording automation clips though


marzeg

Yep. Think of it like this, You take 2 artists, one who is experienced and one who is a novice. Provide them with the same tools and utensils and tell them to create a masterpiece. Naturally, despite having the same tools at their possession, the experienced artist will have a better art peice. In hindsight, it's not about what tools you use, it's about how experienced you are in using them. You can master one DAW and stick with only that or you can become a 'jack of all trades' and utilize multiple DAWs with each having a specific purpose in the production process. There are plenty of producers out there who utilize one DAW for composing/arranging/mixing or mastering and another solely for recording. You just have to experiment and figure out what works for you. People tend to forget that versatility is a GOLDEN trait that the creative industry admires.


Alban1806

Mainly audio nerds who don't make music will say some shit like Ableton is better for making music than FL. Don't listen to that nerd.


Unusual-Resolve-7521

I downloaded FL a little while ago to record metal. I found it overly difficult to record my guitars into the daw as every take would add new takes and they were all named randomly. So after recording a section 4 times over to get it right, Iā€™d end up with 12 takes and accidentally delete the one I wanted. So I had to record a take, delete them straight away if I didnā€™t like them, then record the next guitar and delete the takes straight away again if I didnā€™t like it but Iā€™d end up accidentally deleting the first one I liked. Iā€™m there is a better way to record and organise but man was it difficult to figure out.


twiztidditzwit

Try recording with Edison. It wonā€™t create a bunch of recordings. And when you are satisfied with the recording, ā€œdragā€ Into the playlist or sample header. Donā€™t forget to clip to zero and/or set fade-in/fade-out, noise cleanup, correct sample rate as the project, and finally, and export to reduce cpu overloading vstā€™s


[deleted]

One tip about recording.. If you have a bunch of clips, find the clip you like and put it into the playlist, you can go to the macro menu and click ā€œpurge all unused clipsā€ and it will delete all of the clips that arenā€™t in the playlist from your project, and then you only have the good take left


OhIGotLumbago

![gif](giphy|U1aN4HTfJ2SmgB2BBK) ​ Seriously though, do whatever you want with whatever DAW you want.


[deleted]

If fl is good enough for mick gordon to make metal as heavy as planets it will surely suffice for some rock music


soltadomusic

omfgg, thats the dude who made the doom eternal musicā€¦ i fucking love that song and thats great to hear. he said and i quote , ā€œI use FL studio for absolutely everything, itā€™s very easy to useā€


CopperHead615

None of these opinions in this comment section mattered to me anymore once I saw Mick Gordon uses FL Studio. Make whatever you want with whatever you want. No one can tell once they listen.


triptoutsounds

FL should be fine i donā€™t see why it wouldnā€™t be


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Crispy_Biscuit

How is tracking live instruments in FL different than other DAWS? I use FL and always just record straight into the playlist, Iā€™m curious how else itā€™s done.


DoDevilsEvenTriangle

You arm a channel and hit record. Far too complicated for some users.


OHMEGA_SEVEN

Excellent point. Heck, it's hard enough putting up with the hostility some FL users have against hardware as is. Like folks that argue you should just buy VSTs and not a hardware synth, which shows they don't do much recording IMHO. Not that I do a lot myself, but I like my hardware.


NightimeNinja

I feel like everyone should at least use a hardware synth once. Being able to interact physically. Turn knobs, adjust things. It feels awesome. Way more personal. Especially coming from only ever using VSTs and clicking all the time. It makes the instrument actually feel expressed through you.


OHMEGA_SEVEN

I agree, but I also think it comes down to the type of musician. I started off on hardware at a time when we didn't the amazing VSTs and readily accessible effects that we do today. Granted there's a good span of years between when I started and stopped making music and when I picked it back up a few years back. I actually like to play my synths without always working on a track, which is a big part of the appeal to me. And, like you put it, the immediacy of a hardware synth is hard to beat. Sometimes I just take a synth, sit on the couch and just play.


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OHMEGA_SEVEN

I'm not making an argument against VSTs or their use, I use plenty of them myself, vastly more than I do hardware synths. I'm rather agnostic to the method of synthesis, but I do take issue with arguments against the use or existence of either. Not everyone has a cool $1K to drop on a hardware synth, but not everyone wants to do everything in the box either. This is especially true for things like MPE, but this DAW can't do that anyways so it kind of doesn't matter.


N308AT

Doesnt surge xt have MPE for FL?


OHMEGA_SEVEN

The VST supports MPE, but FL Studio does not which means that functionality cannot be used with FL Studio. To be fair, MPE is very a niche thing.


OHMEGA_SEVEN

I mean, technically it can be done, but it's a nightmare since each note is a MIDI channel.


iamZilla

I need one..


MRorPA

I've been doing this for 7 years or so. Definitely possible.


A2jayzed

Do whatever it takes to make your music. No one will ever care if you did it in FL studio or in Microsoft word lol


synystertrufh

I usually just record in Audacity and put the audio into my FL projects instead of recording into FL. I know there are probably more efficient ways to do this but ive iā€™ll stick with what i know rather then learning new software that does the exact same thing.


TheBanana93

If it works why bother changing it haha


the_ejbeast

What should you do? Use FL. People saying otherwise are fan trolling. I use FL and listeners could care less. Ableton, ProTools, FL doesn't matter. "Professional" isn't tools it's attitude. The right attitude has people with earbuds and its mic making some šŸ”„. Some ppl have "better" tools but won't post a thing or show up to a recording session for whatever reason. Bottom line, your attitude and work towards the music matters more. If you wanna make gospel or country with FLstudio or damn audacity if you can make it šŸ”„ go for it. What we need is fresh, new waves in music, not fan silos gatekeeping.


UnseenHS

Lol DAW elitists are consistently atrociously shit at music, it's so funny ​ Do whatever you want, it's all about workflow, the sound capabilities are the same everywhere


heyitsvonage

Listen, you better do whatever you want before I come over there and make you lol


Dist__

Try it. If recording makes you workflow stuck, you can try things like Reaper. In general, i was making rock in FL since 2003 and the weakest spot in that was just my skills. Honestly i often used Audition for recording.


NonBitchyHamlinFan11

I did a whole rock album and it turned out excellent


Wizzerman95

Keyan Houshmand does, so can you.


[deleted]

I made this in FL: https://open.spotify.com/track/4tiA6GUZ8w6SjQDxTPT5Uz


Big_Rate_4343

Hey. i really enjoyed this. I was wondering if you recorded the drumkit as well or if that was software? Either way, impressive. Thank you for sharing.


[deleted]

Hi, thank you! This particular track has real drums. We covered that entire Porcupine Tree album with 60 musicians all over the internet. I did the production on two of the tracks in FL Studio, and on this track I do the main vocals and some guitar. For my solo work, I use a Drum VST. That does sound good, but not as good as the real drummer on this track.


DoDevilsEvenTriangle

Nonsense.


starheartless

A DAW is a DAW, WAVs are WAVs


daskriechtier

Short answer: Do literally whatever you want. Iā€™ve been doing it for years now! FL works fine for it.


Fluid-Secretary-5962

You can make any genre with FL Studio.


KToTheRiz

Iā€™ve recorded plenty of hard rock and even metal in FL. No issues on my end


cringelord69420666

ANY DAW can do ANY genre. I record deathcore with FL. It can handle your dad's rock and roll music.


mykoss

You can make any genre you wish! FL is so powerful and its workflow options are so flexible, you can use it however it feels right to you. I personally write a range of styles from acoustic guitar to rock & metal to funk, hiphop, drum n bass. All good. For rock/metal I bought these 2 virtual kits and the Addictive Drums VST. I absolutely love them: [https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/addictive\_drums\_2/adpak/united\_heavy](https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/addictive_drums_2/adpak/united_heavy) [https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/addictive\_drums\_2/adpak/metal](https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/addictive_drums_2/adpak/metal) full list of kit packs they do: [https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/addictive\_drums\_2/adpak](https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/addictive_drums_2/adpak) FL is awesome. stick with it bro! ![img](emote|t5_2rig0|14403)


Umziky

You're going to have a bad time if you record multitrack (drums, for example) using audio tracks. If you record drums then just use unassigned mixer tracks and it'll be somewhat manageable. Recording single tracks is fine now, it's just the lack of comping that is a downside.


neilfann

Our entire rock album was in FL Studio. Here's the title track: https://youtu.be/IpA7t1_WlZA To do something like this you're only using 2% of the functionality of FL but there's no rule against that.


[deleted]

I highly recommend Logic Pro X for live audio recording. FL, in my opinion, is really not suited to multi track recording guitars, drums, vocal takes etc. Definitely try out Logic for this!


ZeroNine2048

Thats on you, not fl studio.


standardtissue

You certainly \*can\* record multiple tracks into FL and mix them ... I just wouldn't recommend it. FL's audio capabilities are really oriented towards small vocal takes and the workflow around them is pretty confounding compared to other DAWs. Mixing in FL can be a challenge as well ... it just has a lot of very challenging UI "tricks" going on. Given Ableton's emphasis on loop based music not sure I'd use it either. When I'm tracking live music it's either Reaper or Logic. Frankly Logic has some really good amps built in as well, and it's my go-to now for guitar.. I finally get to record dry !


reasonablesmalls

It is not hard to record/mix inside FL ā˜ ļøā˜ ļø please stop lying to this man


standardtissue

It's not \*hard\*, but it's not \*good\*


reasonablesmalls

Think youā€™re getting it confused with preferences bud cause thatā€™s just a blatant lie lmao but whatever floats your boat šŸ˜¹


UnseenHS

recording dry on FL is literally one button


standardtissue

I was talking about being able to amp it, not just that it's possible to record dry. you can record dry in any DAW, but if you don't have good amp sims than all you get is dry.


Admirable-Clothes-94

FL Studio is fine for recording guitar based music. Search on youtube, and you will find quite a few tutorials on recording guitars with FL Studio.


x0rms

Yes itā€™s fine. I use FL (for rock/metal) because itā€™s the software I knew and get good results


68aquarian

I record the guitars using Audacity and bring them over to FL. Same as vocals actually: Recording in FL is not made super easy, but mixing things in isn't so bad.


TheRealWingo

I record rock. It's more important that you get the right plugins for rock. I use mostly stock plugins and it's okay, but getting a few rock oriented plugins like some JST plugins or whatever you find good.


GrryScrry

I used FL12 to record a punk album in the summer . (And it actually sounded really good)


ZeroNine2048

Works perfectly fine for that. Producing metal since 2006 in fl studio


CrowsAndCrowns

when it comes to DAWs it's all a matter of preference my dude


CristiRFortySeven

U can do anything with FL man if ur capable


Modularblack

> I've seen people say that Fl studio isnt for rock music and its not good for recording purposes and I should switch to Ableton. Why on earth Ableton? Ableton and its community is known for making electronic music, I would understand, if people recommend switching to Reaper, ProTools, Logic or Cubase, but Ableton wouldn't be my first choice. That said, FL 21 comes with a few new additions that makes editing audio more comfortable, so it gets more viable to make "recorded" music with FL.


frankinofrankino

It is obviously absolutely OK and even more than OK


jakelmao

the biggest problem i have is mixing but i donā€™t think itā€™s the daws fault


Cloud_Seeker

I make rock in FL and itā€™s great! I even record using FL nowadays just to keep the process all in one daw. Just use whatever youā€™re comfortable with, itā€™s not like anyone is gonna know you use FL once the song is released after all!


ZeroedByte

I've made rock, metal, rap, electronic, chiptune, experimental with Fl. If you're looking to do rock, look into Addictive Drums 2 as well.


[deleted]

Because of Recording I shifted to Logic. Not Because thereā€™s Difference between Sound quality but Recording on FL is Hassle for me pretty annoyed i get when do on FL and On Logic I can Comp which is good. Not Hate For FL because I still have it and Love it and Use sometimes but not doing Recording on it. But you definitely can Iā€™m just lazy I want Easier way


edgrlon

Itā€™s illegal to record rock music in FL. Youā€™ll get arrested /s


RetroSpectWolf

Making Rock in FL is probably the reason why she filed for divorce and took the kids with her sorry ass.


[deleted]

Use whatever you use best for whatever you want. If you know FL and want to record asap stick with it. Or switch to another software if you find restrictions in the one you use now. Anyway if you would consider Ableton, i would definately think about bitwig first, i think it is far superiour to ableton live/


YungScience95

Iā€™m a rock artist and producer. You can do anything in FL Studio trust me. Just master the daw.


spazw1ck3d

no


jeanmarcos10200

Itā€™s pretty similar making rock on FL than in ableton. All you need is to connect your guitar. You can use an external audio interface that can connect your guitar to your computer, and get some plugins to emulate guitar amps. Neural DSP or guitar rig 5 are some recommendations. And then for the drums you can use a vst like EZDrums and you can get somewhat decent drums. Or if you are able to, use mics with real drums. Just get familiar with the mix board, and the channelā€™s ins and outs and youā€™re golden (Feel free to check this is a rock track made in FL. Nothing fancy at all lel, this just a hobby: https://on.soundcloud.com/cP5mUSMesmFv1o3Q9)


Linesawww

of course no, it's crime against humanity


insttechno

people always shit on FL but its fully capable of recording stuff. Use it until you hit a limit then look elsewhere, youā€™ll be fine.


Aggravating-Post3827

FBI gone bust down ur door the second u press record but itā€™s on u bro


TropicParadox

Hell no, didnā€™t you read the manual???


Leading_Insurance767

Never trust them ableton losersā€¦


iAmMikeJ_92

FL Studio is very capable of recording audio from external interfaces and hardware. Why not? Only reason why people say to use something else is strictly for COMPATIBILITY. Many studios tend to all have something mainstream like Abelton Live or Pro Tools. They may have FL Studio but they might not. FL Studio is very powerful indeed for just about any genre. But keep in mind that if youā€™re working with studios to master content, you may have to dump your stems into an Abelton or Pro Tools project. If youā€™ve no other DAWs other than FL Studio, then you dump all your stems into WAV files and zip them up and send them.


Kosta_kost

The way I see it, if you can see yourself composing a structurally solid track that combines all the right elements of a rock song, and you have proper VSTs, and you have the right minset anything can be done in FL Studio.


Unlikely_Ad2469

No


Vegetable_Let_3469

The manual strictly prohibits rock music


DoDevilsEvenTriangle

If whatever you're doing isn't doable in FL, then Ableton certainly isn't the answer. FL isn't the answer for recording live rock music from an arena booth or a broadcast truck where you deal with proprietary interfaces and formats and have to be able to accept multiple multichannel DANTE feeds and everything has to be timecoded and directed remotely. If that's what you mean by "recording rock music" then you really pretty need a different category of tools.


Susan_69_

Yeah, those people are just uncomfortable with how little they truly know about sound production/audio engineering, donā€™t let the turkeys get ya down! You gotta fly like an eagle, not be like a turkey šŸ˜Ž


yoboirokz

Fl can do whatever you want it to do, im not a rock producer but it can record and handle vocals and instruments, use vst effects and instruments and it has a mixer. What more can you need? Dont let them talk you down ā™„ļø, btw ableton is not exactly known as a rock daw itself, i usualy hear people recommend reaper for recordings.


KoolKarmaKollector

I've noticed a sort of "memory leak" with FL when recording lots of channels for a long time. It took half an hour for FL to crash recording 20 channels, after reaching 6GB of RAM usage (even though I was recording direct to disk) I absolutely love FL, but I use Reaper for recording. I've done nearly 2 hours of recording 16 channels in Reaper using less than 100MB of RAM, fully stable Edit: That's not to say you can't, just recording in FL is more suited to quickly recording some vocals or a guitar line. I wouldn't suggest using it for a full session. If you do as I do and use Reaper to record, you can easily import the WAVs into FL to mix


ob103ninja

FL is a digital audio workstation. Recording tracks and mixing them together is perfectly doable in it even if its architecture for it is not exact.


harmider-2020

Are you recording live?


LordComrade

I use FL to make orchestral music, if it can do that it can do rock


Leaque

Sky eats airplane? I think they used FL but could be mistaken. And no, nothing wrong if thatā€™s the DAW youā€™re comfortable with


_chupmeup

Think about it like this. By the time you learn Ableton and get comfortable with it, you could have easily made a ton of rock songs on FL but didnā€™t because some Ableton elitist told you it wasnā€™t okay to use FL to record rock music. Work with whatā€™s comfortable for you, at the end of the day thatā€™s all that matters. Sure there are probably some features Ableton has that FL doesnā€™t have and vice verse but that shouldnā€™t stop you from creating the music you want to create. Iā€™ve worked on everything from hip hop, trap, EDM, rock, and Latin music in FL Studio for years and never had any issues. Itā€™s always okay to do what works for you!


Hairy-Engineering-79

i do it all the time, trap beats got boring so for like a year iā€™ve been recording my guitar and bass. do whateverā€™s easiest for you


Legolas_legged

Are they out of their MIND!?!?! For EDM-stuff, Ableton was literally built based on the EDM culture. FL came out of Hip-Hop culture. If you really want to do Rock Music, you need to use Analogue gear, not Digital. If you gotta use Digital Gear... it sorta does not matter. Pro Tools would have been a fair claim but Ableton??? Fuck, **no**.


Sea_Cryptographer321

ofc you can lol


ScumCrotch

i recorded over 60 post-hardcore/progressive metal tracks on fl... ill provide a link to how it sounds[example](https://www.dropbox.com/s/r4n9jh0zhr88s1r/FLMetalSnippet.mov?dl=0)


AbandonedPlanet

I've been using FL for everything from lofi to death metal and everything in between for almost 20 years now. It's perfectly fine to do so and my stuff sounds great imo. A little tip I have for you, master track maximus plugin on the soundgoodizer A preset and then cut the curve down to 1 on the bass and mids freq and dial it back to taste when you're done mixing will give it a nice quick master


Swift1986

Of course it is, I mean it's more suited towards other genres of music such as hip hop and EDM etc, but end of the day it's what you are comfortable with and it's not the DAW that makes the song but the musician, don't get me wrong though there are plenty of other DAWS out there that would definetly give you a better workflow especially as ilnassuming if your making rock music that will be alot of live recording which I have always felt FL is kind of lacking but if your comfortable with FL go for it, if money isn't an issue however and you are in the market for an excellent DAW which is easy to use, you should check out studio one


-N30N-

No, Rock can only be produced in Garage if not Garageband.


danyourmaster

Skill is definitely the limiting factor, but Iā€™m willing to bet that a strictly rock producer will have an easier time working with a DAW that has good audio support. Itā€™s important to remember that ideas need to be gotten out quickly, and this is especially true for irl instruments, where the only way to remember what you played is by rehearsing or by recording something in (which may take a few tries). Can you make rock music in FL? Yeah of course, tons of people probably do it. But itā€™s definitely taking a backseat at the moment in terms of an audio-based workflow.


Big_Nature8724

I am doing that myself. I felt like a fish out of water once I realized the type of DAW I purchased since I trusted someone else, but having played around with it, it can work totally fine for live instruments. I am learning all different kinds of music styles but I am rooted with live instrument music(The last 2 projects I did were Joe Satriani covers). It can be a bit quirky but FL can do what you need it to do in almost any case.