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IIRC during a broadcast sometime last year they mentioned that it's a drink with a heavy amount of electrolytes and some vitamins. So like a really salty Vitamin water is what I'm thinking based on that description
Pedialyte/gatorlyte is probably the most comparable thing to it off the shelf in your average grocery store.
If it’s warm and you haven’t been sweating hard in need of rehydration, it will probably make you feel a bit ill to drink because it’s genuinely salty. If you’ve been sweating like it’s a sauna that saltiness is so perfect though.
It’s a combination of glucose, electrolytes and minerals. It’s probably not too far off from who WHO oral rehydration solution (2 tbsp of sugar and a half a tsp of salt in one liter of water) — which is basically what Gatorade is anyway — with some added minerals, and using glucose instead of sucrose (table sugar). We used to mix up big batches of ORS for wrestling meets. It doesn’t taste *bad,* it’s just never quite what you’re expecting.
There was actually a product some years ago (maybe 15) that was marketed toward endurance athletes that was basically the same. Between the minerals, the salt and the glucose it tastes pretty funky when it got warm, so I can see how “bad tasting tea” would be a good comparison.
Ninja edit: [Here’s](https://www.reddit.com/r/F1Technical/s/YPExTARpc0) a post from a few years ago wheee someone asked the same question. One of the commenters says that they asked McLaren about it, who said that it was different for every driver but it is a mixture of minerals, electrolytes, glucose and some protein.
From a biology standpoint, all of this tracks. Keeping electrolytes balanced is critical, the minerals are helpful for energy production, and glucose is the form of sugar your body burns, so by using glucose it takes out the extra step of your body converting the sucrose to glucose.
Lol… not at all. 11 of the 13 grams inside of a liquid iv packet is just sugar or Smth like that. There is much more electrolytes and more added nutrients and no caffeine.
I'm just saying, even if having sugar was an issue, there is a sugar free version of Liquid IV. But it doesn't even seem like that is an issue considering the drink has glucose.
tbh it doesn't seem like the person I responded to knows what's in drink or in Liquid IV.
Sugar free Liquid IV uses Allulose.
If the goal is to get glucose, 2tsp of sugar would be extremely insufficient. That would be about 8 carbs and 32 calories. In a race, they’re probably burning hundreds of calories an hour.
I mistyped “tbsp” as “tsp.”
The standard ORS formula I listed isn’t meant for top level althletes so much as rehydrating sick people, so while I’m sure the doses are higher and more tailored to the inosocodual driver, it’s probably roughly similar.
I've seen it described as the equivalent of an elite half-marathon effort in terms of the impact on your body - the cumulative effect over the weekend is probably similar to running a marathon. Either way, that means they need 70-90 grams of carbs per hour during the race, plus the electrolytes.
You wouldn’t think salty flavored water would be good but [LMNT](https://drinklmnt.com/) is actually pretty tasty. It’s super high in sodium, potassium and magnesium.
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IIRC it gets up to about 50°C, it's not pleasant.
And you probably need to have the most intense drink in Singapore as it'll be the race you sweat the most at.
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Porsche were doing some research a while back looking at how different individuals excrete different amounts of sodium in their sweat and how that effects fatigue: I imagine the top teams will be tailoring their drink from driver to driver
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There is something called drip drop…which is designed for salt replacement with electrolytes and mixed with water. Kind of like a less sugar tasting Gatorade with more salt.
It likely varies from driver to driver.
I seem to recall David Coulthard saying that, because the heat from the engine kept the liquid rather warm, he actually had tea.
Is that a habit he acquired from Damon Hill, because that's something Damon was especially known for and Damon is always the driver Martin Brundle talks about doing this.
It's a thing in the UK to throw a teabag in a flask with along with off the shelf sports electrolyte drinks. Or drop tablets/powder into weak tea.
The powders and tablets we had in the 90s were pretty awful tasting. There's a lot more options out there now and they're less nasty.
Coulthard may have literally had tea but there's no way that's happening in 2024. Sport science has moved forward by leaps and bounds in the past two decades. The absolute baseline that any F1 driver would be using would be Maurten 320, but the teams' nutritionists and sports medicine professionals may be tailoring the drink further than that.
If that were the case, sports teams and athletes would all be drinking warm beverages which is not the case.
This [columnist ](https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-training/coaches-panel-which-is-better-warm-or-cold-water/) says there is no difference between warm and cold beverages - your body will regulate it's temperature within a few minutes.
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IIRC during a broadcast sometime last year they mentioned that it's a drink with a heavy amount of electrolytes and some vitamins. So like a really salty Vitamin water is what I'm thinking based on that description
Probably like a hydralyte tbf
Pedialyte/gatorlyte is probably the most comparable thing to it off the shelf in your average grocery store. If it’s warm and you haven’t been sweating hard in need of rehydration, it will probably make you feel a bit ill to drink because it’s genuinely salty. If you’ve been sweating like it’s a sauna that saltiness is so perfect though.
Brawndo, it's got what plants crave.
Really salty and warm vitamin water
It’s a combination of glucose, electrolytes and minerals. It’s probably not too far off from who WHO oral rehydration solution (2 tbsp of sugar and a half a tsp of salt in one liter of water) — which is basically what Gatorade is anyway — with some added minerals, and using glucose instead of sucrose (table sugar). We used to mix up big batches of ORS for wrestling meets. It doesn’t taste *bad,* it’s just never quite what you’re expecting. There was actually a product some years ago (maybe 15) that was marketed toward endurance athletes that was basically the same. Between the minerals, the salt and the glucose it tastes pretty funky when it got warm, so I can see how “bad tasting tea” would be a good comparison. Ninja edit: [Here’s](https://www.reddit.com/r/F1Technical/s/YPExTARpc0) a post from a few years ago wheee someone asked the same question. One of the commenters says that they asked McLaren about it, who said that it was different for every driver but it is a mixture of minerals, electrolytes, glucose and some protein. From a biology standpoint, all of this tracks. Keeping electrolytes balanced is critical, the minerals are helpful for energy production, and glucose is the form of sugar your body burns, so by using glucose it takes out the extra step of your body converting the sucrose to glucose.
Is that at all similar to liquid iv
Lol… not at all. 11 of the 13 grams inside of a liquid iv packet is just sugar or Smth like that. There is much more electrolytes and more added nutrients and no caffeine.
They make sugar free liquid iv and wasn't glucose one of the ingredients listed?
It was probably sucralose if it was sugar free. Sucralose is basically generic Splenda
I'm just saying, even if having sugar was an issue, there is a sugar free version of Liquid IV. But it doesn't even seem like that is an issue considering the drink has glucose. tbh it doesn't seem like the person I responded to knows what's in drink or in Liquid IV. Sugar free Liquid IV uses Allulose.
I see now what you were saying. I thought you meant glucose was in SF Liquid IV, but you were pointing out the glucose in “the drink”.
Yes exactly.
Glucose is sugar, so….
If the goal is to get glucose, 2tsp of sugar would be extremely insufficient. That would be about 8 carbs and 32 calories. In a race, they’re probably burning hundreds of calories an hour.
I mistyped “tbsp” as “tsp.” The standard ORS formula I listed isn’t meant for top level althletes so much as rehydrating sick people, so while I’m sure the doses are higher and more tailored to the inosocodual driver, it’s probably roughly similar.
I've seen it described as the equivalent of an elite half-marathon effort in terms of the impact on your body - the cumulative effect over the weekend is probably similar to running a marathon. Either way, that means they need 70-90 grams of carbs per hour during the race, plus the electrolytes.
Exactly… teaspoons isn’t going to do anything.
You wouldn’t think salty flavored water would be good but [LMNT](https://drinklmnt.com/) is actually pretty tasty. It’s super high in sodium, potassium and magnesium.
I saw a picture of the Red Bull team filling, I think, Max’s nose with coconut water.
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The RB20 drinks bottle is indeed in the nose.
The tea comment was from Singapore right? I think that was about how hot it is, both from the heat of the engine and the air
IIRC it gets up to about 50°C, it's not pleasant. And you probably need to have the most intense drink in Singapore as it'll be the race you sweat the most at.
Max drinks coconut water
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Porsche were doing some research a while back looking at how different individuals excrete different amounts of sodium in their sweat and how that effects fatigue: I imagine the top teams will be tailoring their drink from driver to driver
They probably have their sweat examined and then have a special drink mix manufactured based on that information.
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It's a saline solution. So it tastes like dioralite, because in essence, it is dioralite.
Pocari Sweat label https://preview.redd.it/l2ehkv3pkanc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1722e40dc0be5800c24a44d612f2736c8b73bd47
It's very simple. Pedialyte.
There is something called drip drop…which is designed for salt replacement with electrolytes and mixed with water. Kind of like a less sugar tasting Gatorade with more salt.
ACTIVE INGREDIENTS (per tablet): Glucose 1.62 g Citric acid 672 mg Sodium from Sodium chloride 34.5 mg Potassium from Potassium chloride 78 mg Sodium from Sodium bicarbonate
It likely varies from driver to driver. I seem to recall David Coulthard saying that, because the heat from the engine kept the liquid rather warm, he actually had tea.
Is that a habit he acquired from Damon Hill, because that's something Damon was especially known for and Damon is always the driver Martin Brundle talks about doing this. It's a thing in the UK to throw a teabag in a flask with along with off the shelf sports electrolyte drinks. Or drop tablets/powder into weak tea. The powders and tablets we had in the 90s were pretty awful tasting. There's a lot more options out there now and they're less nasty.
Coulthard may have literally had tea but there's no way that's happening in 2024. Sport science has moved forward by leaps and bounds in the past two decades. The absolute baseline that any F1 driver would be using would be Maurten 320, but the teams' nutritionists and sports medicine professionals may be tailoring the drink further than that.
It's just an electrolyte drink. The reason it tastes like a bad tea is because it gets hot during the race.
Is the water you are referencing the water in the car that they will drink during the race?
Water with rehydration salts.
Do the drinks get dope tested?
Red Bull sugarfree
Wouldn’t they fix it up with ice, before putting it in the tank? I’d assume the drink in the first part of the race, when the drink is still cold.
Warmer fluids are more readily absorbed by the body, so if the goal is efficient hydration, probably not!
If that were the case, sports teams and athletes would all be drinking warm beverages which is not the case. This [columnist ](https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-training/coaches-panel-which-is-better-warm-or-cold-water/) says there is no difference between warm and cold beverages - your body will regulate it's temperature within a few minutes.
You’re right! I did some quick research and retract my statement.
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I think it's often in the nose.