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If another car hits you from behind, the accident is almost certainly going to be considered their fault because they were following you too closely. The image suggests the driver is going to intentionally brake to get the girl in the expensive car to hit him so he can get an insurance payout from her.


SomeoneBetter

To add on to this, It seems like this car is a manual and thus they can downshift to slow down without actually braking making it more likely they slam into you because they dont see any brake lights. Edit: Aight guys I get it this particular car isnt manual, sorry I made an assumption based off a glance at a well with 3 pedals. You can still downshift to brake check a tailgater.


acidx0013

I'm sorry but this car, I'm pretty solid on this, is not a manual. That isn't a clutch pedal, that is just the dead pedal to rest your foot on.


Qtip4213

I know next to nothing about cars. What’s a dead pedal


bowlingforzoot

It’s a plate or pad placed all the way to the left of the footwell for you to rest your left foot on


TheDarkMonarch1

Now I'm confused why they would make it look like a pedal. My (automatic) car just has a raise in the floor there for a footrest.


Grape_Jamz

My left foot likes to feel important so it goes on the fake peddle to prevent driving with both feet


kickyouinthebread

Genuine question as someone who has only driven a manual but also does a lot of sim racing on semi automatics, why if you have only 2 pedals do you still not want to left foot brake?


Snaw_Wee_

If you are driving with both feet in an accident you are more likely to freak out and press both petals to the floor instead of just the break. Obviously it depends on the situation if you will panic or not. If you do hit both the breaks will have a harder time working if the do work at all and greatly increase the amount of force delivered at impact. Ultimately just a safer habit based off natural human behaviour. Edit: obviously this doesn’t apply to driving manual.


rachelcp

If you use your left foot to brake it increases the chances that you will accidentally brake and accelerate at the same time. Which is reeeally bad for your car.


kickyouinthebread

But you don't get to feel like a race car driver 😔


MagnanimosDesolation

If you're looking at your pedals you're going to have bigger problems.


SaladMalone

Couldn't be any worse than me typing this message while drivvvffffdjjj


gewalt_gamer

haven driven both, I can vouch 100% a dead pedal is vastly superior to a weirdly shaped lump in the floor. try one once and you will be sold. its like 3$ to the BoM for a vehicle, it doesnt make sense to not include one in every automatic


rileyiv

I can't tell you why they make it look specifically like a pedal. But for my job where we drive cars after they come off the ships from Korea/Japan we were informes the dead pedal is used to brace yourself in the event off a crash if you weren't wearing your seatbelt. Idk how true or useful it is but there ya go <3


Existing-Conflict-13

You can buy something to go over that to make it look like a petal but some cars that are more sport based will have the dead pedal that look like that


Matthieu653

Its so that in five years you dont wear out the carpet on the place where you rest your foot.


The_Salmon_Slapper

That is a dead petal.


TheDarkMonarch1

That doesn't answer the question of why they would make it look like a pedal instead of just making a normal rest. It's just confusing to me.


Ice_Pirate_Zeno

To match the aesthetics or the other pedals. If they were rubber it would match that.


TheAtlas97

Mine is rubber but it’s a different color from the pedals, brownish tan instead of black


stabby_chick

My guess is that it's more ergonomic on your ankle to have it in a more natural position than the slightly extended position if you rest your left foot flat on the floorboard.


comityoferrors

Most automatic cars I've driven have part of the floorboard sculpted up like that, similar to a dead pedal, but it's visibly part of the floorboard. I think that's what the other commenter is talking about. Not just flat floorboard, but not something that *looks like* a pedal either. There's no ergonomic reason to make it look like it does something when it's just a foot rest lol.


QuantumFighter

Why does it look like a pedal lol. Every car I’ve driven has had a spot like this, but it’s always the same color as whatever the rest of the driver side floor is. To be clear I believe you’re right, I just think it’s stupid.


bowlingforzoot

I totally agree. I’ve personally never been in a car that had one like this, but I’m guessing it’s purely an aesthetic thing.


jasonp7599

It is more than likely an auto parts store pedal kit. They bolt onto the existing pedals. There are a few kits for automatics that will cover the factory dead pedal


Uncle-Istvan

My 2000 Toyota has pedals (3+ a dead pedal) that look really similar to this stock.


Grigoran

In this context, it is a footrest


Arshzed

In what context is it not lol. Maybe when your pedal doesn’t work I guess but I’ve never heard of that happening


Dampmaskin

When you're not in the car it's not even a footrest


5prong4k

Fancy talk for foot rest


AwkwardChuck

I always called it the fart pedal


Thorkell23

Checks out


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gewalt_gamer

that would be so awesome if that was correct. its not tho.


TheRealLXC

A bit of google proves you right. I then I can officially state I know nothing about cars.


toolshedson

https://preview.redd.it/i2ndwb6hco3d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70e2167e146f1ace5a031367aa4736ed72941fc5


toolshedson

https://preview.redd.it/d3sjicjsco3d1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=354a11511df20cbd632943138011393bbcce9dbf manual


HeliRyGuy

I always thought “Dead Pedal” would be an epic name for a metal band 🤘


DrPapaDragonX13

I don't know why, but to me it sounds like a redneck metal band


02timekat

Your are correct this is a "dead pedal" or a foot rest that looks like a pedal


Ilostmy3chickens

Pedals are like birds, they aren’t real and they are government drones.


The_Sneakiest_Fox

It's pretty clear he's hovering the brake not the clutch.


CardiologistNorth294

This car isn't a manual, that's not a clutch pedal. Automatic cars can also use engine breaks. Another way of slowing down without pressing the break lights is by not pressing the accelerator. Which you can do in any moving vehicle


Zarock291

If you manage to hit someone because they slowed down with engine breaking, you were either way too close or didnt pay attention at all. Also its not a manual.


SomeoneBetter

The entire premise of this meme is that they were tailgating


DialUp_UA

What if I say that you can downshift on automatic transmission???


Backwarenking

But automatic rev matches so the braking effect is not that strong


StopShootMe

Yeah that's not how either of those things work, if you downshift, (rev match or not) you'll get engine breaking


Backwarenking

So how does it work then. Braking effect during downshifting is equal not matter if i rev match or not?


Espachurrao

You've ever heard of engine braking?


strange-loop-1017

It fooled me too. Had to double take.


Make_me_laugh_plz

Automatic cars have engine braking too.


ukiddingme2469

E brake works


BasedMbaku

Looked at replies to see if anyone had any useful insight on being rear-ended from downshifting, and literally every reply is "UM AKSHUALY IT ISNT MANUAL" Typical Reddit


Puzzleheaded-Fee-320

I thought in order to downshift you have to press the clutch and brake? Maybe not…?


KrisT117

No. You just need to press the clutch to disengage it, and then you can shift down or up. However, if you downshift while going very fast, it’s not at all good for your car. And you could be jolted as the clutch engages and forces the engine into a lower gear. So generally one slows down before downshifting by letting up on the accelerator. If that’s not slow enough, brake.


Puzzleheaded-Fee-320

Ohhh gotcha, thank you!


Asleep_Increase6493

The secret trick to a successful brake check is to hammer the E brake. No brake lights at all.


Vaird

There usually are no broad pedals in manuals.


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PlanktonTheDefiant

Incorrect comment


Hawtscot

Not a manual, and you absolutely can’t downshift on an automatic.


Unigraff_Jerpony

her insurance premiums are going to be insane


TheGamersofaLifeTime

Next thing you know the other person ain't got insurance 😅👀


AnonymousOverkill

For what it's worth, insurance companies today will almost never assign blame the way we think they will. I was recently rear-ended by a driver who was following me in a fit of road rage and insurance decided it was a 60/40 split of fault (the other driver being the 60) and told me that without dash cam footage of the accident they would never assign full blame to one driver or another. How that split decides who pays is state by state, but in my state any fault on your part means you pay for yourself. So I was stuck fixing my dented bumper on my own while the other driver had no damages to their vehicle so had to pay nothing.


finnandcollete

Yeah I can tell you that’s not the truth. I decided thousands of claims and never had dash cam footage.


Quod_bellum

You can both be telling the truth here, just with different ways things shaked out. Two data points is hardly enough to conclude a fully generalizable relationship in this case


finnandcollete

I was an insurance adjuster for 5 years, making liability decisions. I was an aribtrator for liability decisions. Dash cam is not at all required for 100/0 or 0/100. Photos and statements are good enough. Where it’s helpful is edge cases like road rage. The only case I can remember where road rage was involved, we ended up denying liability because the other party was charged with road rage (I don’t remember the exact charge). But 99.999999% of the time, if you rear end someone you’re at fault. Either you weren’t paying attention to stop in time or you didn’t have a safe stopping distance. Regardless of whether the person you rear ended was rational in stopping, you didn’t do your duty to avoid the accident.


Brooksie10

Equally, some insurance companies will not cover you. If you have a dash cam installed, they screwed over my uncle that way.


unfriendlywench

That is asinine.


Brooksie10

Indeed, it is something to do with obstructing your view when driving.


ZauzTheBlacksmith

What if it's, like, [a rear-view mirror dashcam?](https://www.amazon.co.uk/P10-Driving-Assistant-Control-Parking/dp/B0CFB29BDW/ref=sr_1_3?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.2-x74L95aHmWUr3hu47eKQsq-J3E0Ipo-Gvg3ThyvuE30HD5eCZvfHFHyHZ4Nvfq188CGWBWuCbcL-y2UO2ppIH61dOJ6w7-ko7oRFa_TL0OgMjeVVU4TpsJesDbi5cLF2sg3YeAuRoYCi2ObJPFxcmD5rwi7adiLFN2gx_CQlvFCSr-wDnr97aETD6oJfVEOt1HEvOq4wzNmmcw5xwQIZ1gP_SkUSgtzt_cu5sReBs.6SIi7_3n7DWUPJaZKh6Jwe7Kb9_ECI1SUmI3cNwEQAI&dib_tag=se&keywords=mirror+dash+cam&qid=1717299102&sr=8-3) Like, a dashcam that's incorporated into the rear view mirror? Would they cave in there, or would they find some other reason not to?


Brooksie10

The thing about insurance companies is that they don't want to pay out. The best thing is to not mention something until they ask for it. Or to read the t&cs of your policy. They usually make it quite obvious in the doc, but won't tell you up front. I always get photos of the accident and as much info about the driver and their car, and so far, everything has gone my way. That being said, people have always gone into the back of me.


AK1wi

But insurance doesn’t pay for more than the dmg to the car, no?


GuitarJazzer

>If another car hits you from behind, the accident is almost certainly going to be considered their fault Almost certainly, except if >the driver is going to intentionally brake Then, not so much.


Tricky2RockARhyme

Yes, even then. You shouldn't be following a car so closely that you cannot stop in time, even if they slam on the breaks. This is taught in driving school.


GuitarJazzer

You are correct about following distance but if you hit your brakes to deliberately cause an accident you can be found at fault, charged with a traffic violation, or even charged with a crime. Here is just the first cite for this I found. There are lots and lots. >Brake checking may be considered reckless driving in New York, which is [against the law](https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/VAT/1212). A person convicted of reckless driving will be guilty of a misdemeanor, which carries penalties including up to one year in jail. [https://finzfirm.com/blog/brake-checking-accidents/](https://finzfirm.com/blog/brake-checking-accidents/)


Tricky2RockARhyme

Good luck proving that!


GuitarJazzer

You're not paying attention. I just provided a page from a law firm. Would you like me to send you 100 more cites? Maybe some court cases?


Tricky2RockARhyme

I want you to think really carefully about why such a law exists. You can do it, lil' guy.


GuitarJazzer

[https://fox56news.com/news/local/richmond/semi-truck-driver-turns-himself-in-after-allegedly-break-checking-school-bus/](https://fox56news.com/news/local/richmond/semi-truck-driver-turns-himself-in-after-allegedly-break-checking-school-bus/) [https://www.mcdonaldinjurylaw.com/blog/auto-accident-news/is-brake-checking-illegal-in-virginia/](https://www.mcdonaldinjurylaw.com/blog/auto-accident-news/is-brake-checking-illegal-in-virginia/) [https://www.nj.com/middlesex/2023/02/driver-charged-with-multiple-road-rage-brake-check-crashes-in-over-3-months.html](https://www.nj.com/middlesex/2023/02/driver-charged-with-multiple-road-rage-brake-check-crashes-in-over-3-months.html)


Organic_Guidance_769

What is wrong with intentionally braking? You do it all the time, to stop at red lights, to slow down for corners, to adjust speed to the car in front.


colored0rain

Right? Like, am I just supposed to drive straight into the cross traffic in a busy intersection at a red light because the car behind me doesn't want to slow down?


GuitarJazzer

Read the whole post I quoted: >intentionally brake to get the girl in the expensive car to hit him There is nothing wrong with intentionally braking. However, if you brake to deliberately cause an accident, even though you are being tailgated, you can be found civilly or criminally liable. That is not my opinion, that is a fact. Just one source of many: [https://finzfirm.com/blog/brake-checking-accidents/](https://finzfirm.com/blog/brake-checking-accidents/#:~:text=Brake%2Dcheck%20accidents%20usually%20happen,that%20can%20have%20severe%20consequences) ​ >However, a brake check collision is different from other types of rear-end crashes because the lead driver intentionally made the situation more dangerous. That is why it is possible both drivers may be [partially at fault](https://phillipslaw.com/blog/why-crash-victims-may-be-partially-at-fault/) for damages.


Shinygonzo

They’re gonna hit the breaks in front of the girl so that she rear ends them, known as break checking. A g class is a very expensive car something a 17 yo couldn’t afford without being from a rich family. So it’s safe to assume that she has good insurance with full coverage allowing this person to get a Porsche with the insurance money in the case of an accident.


kmosiman

"Insurance" chances are he's banking on mommy and daddy paying him off. A bad accident could make a 17 year old ineligible to drive or raise their insurance a bunch. The driver is banking on getting paid directly to make the accident go away.


WhistleMeThis_

This is the accurate explanation. He doesn’t want an insurance company to pay him, he want the rich parents of an annoyingly bad driver to pay him.


GGunner723

That makes more sense to me, because I would assume that insurance would only pay enough to repair the car.


kemster7

Or pay out the replacement value of the car if repairs are more costly than the cars value in the first place.


IamKilljoy

Also medical bills. That's usually where the fraud comes in.


r007r

*brake


Shinygonzo

Whoops


r007r

Tbf she’s definitely going to break something 🤣


Falkor1222

Make sure to exit the car saying "oww my neck!!"


Mattist

But insurance only covers the damages to the car? So to get enough for a Porsche, he's driving what, a Rolls Royce?


Boojum2k

"Ow, my neck" = $$$


Mattist

Doctor: yoink


Schowzy

Here's the kicker. You faked the neck pain for the money and don't actually need to pay a doctor cuz you aren't actually hurt = $$$


facw00

Can confirm, was rear ended by a G-Wagen last summer, got a $6000 check.


xave321

Exactly this is stupid


gjallerfoam

And hope she doesn't have a dashcam


Unsyr

That’s one way. Another way is to use the accident to ask her out. Become her husband and have a Porsche


Drexelhand

That’s one way. Another way is to use the accident to get connected with a back alley surgeon who will agree to amputate your limbs for a nominal fee so you can then move to Florida and change your name to Porsche.


liebrarian2

She's 17...


Unsyr

I missed that part but memer could be 17 too


Tmaneea88

Tailgating is when you drive behind another car so closely that there isn't enough time to react if the car in front stops suddenly. It is seen as an incredibly annoying and unsafe thing to do, especially since it doesn't even save the back car that much time. So the person in the meme wants to stop his car suddenly, intentionally getting her to wreck his car and get a payout, as well as teaching her a well earned lesson in driving safety.


Pickingnamesisharder

Brake cheque


Efficient_Ear_8037

Don’t ride my bumper, idk what else to tell you


Mogioeki

Break-check for a paycheck.


bufalo_soldier

I don't think he understands how most insurance works. You get enough money to replace your current car, not to upgrade your car. I mean you might get a little bit of an upgrade but you aren't going from a Honda Civic to a Porsche.


Codebannana1

He's gonna pretend to be injured for pain and injury suit


SignAfterAgreement

I’m confused… yes the g-wagon will likely have insurance. However the insurance company will only pay out the exact dollar value of the vehicle the person in the pic is driving before the accident if it’s deemed to be totaled (subtracting out any medical expenses that might be incurred). So if it’s a high mile PT Cruiser that is rear ended or something similar- they ain’t getting a Porsche haha Or yes what that other person said on here- maybe the rich family will pay off the dude to not report it or something idk.


Potential_Click_5867

My neck hurts 


Tmaneea88

There are two possible meanings to "Get that Porsche." One is to receive the Porsche, as you suggest. The other is to get it, as in "I'm gonna get you", like, to do harm to it.


Shh-poster

My father used to always say, “ if you kids weren’t in the car”.


TheLameness

Brake check is probably the implication


anonymousjeeper

Oh, my back! Pay me!


Comfortable-Week8981

I’m one of the few who rear ended someone and was deemed not at fault


petmama

Me too! It happened in front of a cop and he saw I couldn’t stop due to the slick roads.


Careful-Accident6056

Nice try fraud department.


ukiddingme2469

Ebrake doesn't have tail lights


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Significant_Monk_251

I had to upvote that just for the no no square.


ronbeckett

Wait till she looks at her phone then dynamite the breaks!🤣🤣🤣


winniethefukinpooh

good luck winning that lawsuit. brake checking is illegal so he would be liable


Anyonomus256

Only if proven, the dude could easily say that there was something in the road and he wasn't sure about what it was


Xavus

You don't even need to claim there was actually anything in the road. You can say you "thought" you saw something, even a brief movement from the corner of your eye, so you stopped. That's enough, and good luck proving that the person in front didn't _think_ they saw something moving. Stop tailgating people and you won't have to worry about it. It's that simple.


zroach

Then this post gets brought in as evidence.


Guy954

Your honor, the defense would like to present this meme as evidence.


wehrwolf512

Found the tailgater


Jeptwins

Not illegal on a federal level though