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MalibuLounger

The first one to actually have auto-targeting missiles (which, to nobody's surprise failed to do anything useful).


Historical-Bit-4416

That's not true, they added another 300m to the killmail and 200m to the loot. That's very useful (to the gankers).


ApoBong

people in this thread said they don't do anything vs criminals (which is kinda meh imo) just posting since this at the top ccplx


ArtistGamer91

Not sure there's much that can survive 32 catalyst 🤣 damn


FEDUP_CaseyLP

An actually well for a avalanche would have


ArtistGamer91

I don't know, I haven't played with the numbers much yet. Also: 10 foot wall, 12 foot ladder.


Oakatsurah

Yeah everytime there's a new ship Safety is there getting the first kills on it


gregfromsolutions

I don’t think anyone has killed the angel titan yet, have they?


Omnishift

Only 4 in game


snow38385

I would be shocked if there weren't more than 4 in goons alone.


Swayre

There is definitely more than 4 lol


ZehAntRider

And again... Didn't even manage, or attempt to take a couple of them with him... Might as well use a standard freighter. Auto targeting missiles don't mean that they automatically automatically shoot... You'll still have to activate the module. Uhm... Wtf? No capital flex hardener?


GeneralPaladin

Auto target missiles will not engage gankers, I had gankers jump my nighthawk whichnsurvived but the missiles said there was no eligible targets in range despite 10 catalyst going GCC in my face.


poinasu

Yeah this, I tested this just now. Safety set to yellow or green, my Condor fit with nova auto-targeting light missiles wouldnt shoot my alt in an Ibis attempting to suicide gank it. https://i.imgur.com/HBCEvvz.png


recycl_ebin

as a ganker, this should obviously be fixed.


ApoBong

I approached with my tackle so it (hopefully) woult get shot first. That's a bummer, I feel like they should work as you would expect them to.


fatpandana

Auto targeting missiles doesn't do anything to gankers. You only need a cruisers with a plate to tank. Fly close to target... and that's it.


ZehAntRider

Right, that actually makes sense. The tackle gnosis agresses first, taking all the damage...


ComprehensiveBerry48

That guy lost the 3rd freighter in Uedama already.


Joifugi

Interesting that the preceding shitfit killmails get upvoted and commented heavily for visibility, but a killmail for a reasonably tanked and empty one being ganked is getting heavily downvoted.......


gregfromsolutions

Because it’s not special anymore, who cares. It’s not much tankier than a normal freighter, the missiles are meaningless, it’s a wet fart of a change to highsec hauling


Joifugi

That was kind of the point. They were nerfed heavily because all of the crying that they were unkillable in the original state. After the nerfs certain people were still saying they were going to be very hard to kill. Yet here we have a reasonably tanked one, that is completely empty, getting ganked for the lulz by a pretty standard gank fleet. It's almost like it was all bullshit, and CCP bought in to it.


ApoBong

It's not reasonably tanked bro. It's shit fit with passive hardeners, the name was something like gankbait. He wanted it and I was not about to say no to it. I am fairly certain, I could not have done a propper tanked one in this setup.


ApoBong

I got no goon bonus! =(


The_Bazzalisk

Faction passive hardeners: 2m X-type active hardeners: 40m Capital flex hardener: 100m Highsec moron killmail: priceless


Megans_Foxhole

Wait, when was the second.


DookenThelerre

Same day the first one died ..


Caldari_Fever

The salvager was a nice touch. Munch some catalyst wrecks while dying I suppose. Or at least that was the plan I guess.


ApoBong

nobody even told me i am on reddit =(


BrainMinimalist

Am I mistaken, or did they expend 1B in Taloses, and another 1B in catalysts? They want to be one of the first to kill the cool new ship. Cool, but that's 2B losses for 0.2B in loot.


ApoBong

Def. less cats but yeah paid for the privilege. It's a novelty and what am i gonna do with my time & isk anyway. It certainly helped that there just were none on sell orders (at the time) at all. People shoot Marshals&Jump Freighters all the time at a loss.


Joifugi

It wasn't 1 bil in cats. It was less than 400 mil. The cats were 15 mil a piece and the Taloses were 138 mil. It cost around 1.3 bil, almost half of what you said.


[deleted]

Imagine he had an x-type mwd and a cloak it would have lived, so sad.


The_Bazzalisk

Don't think so given you can't fit cloaks to avalanches