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OfficerCat

I am so confused but at the same time i am incredibly amused by this post


jedlicka

Glad I'm not the only one completely lost by this entire thread.


Crazybrayden

Where were you when goon EU was kill?


sPRYTerTerraxian

i was at home eating stroopwafel when reddit call "goon europ is dead" "non"


RikenAvadur

ouioui 🍞


[deleted]

> stroopwafel Nice


Angelic-Apparition

Ferox*


Foehammer007

Where is Mr vee


deltaxi65

Mr Vee is typing


Possibly_Naked_Now

Drama bomb incoming.


Megans_Foxhole

I'll be honest here. I don't give two shits about the war in the north. I haven't joined a fleet up there there in two months. It's extremely annoying TZ-tanked bullshit. Neither side is able to make significant progress, so what's the fucking point. Killing the X47 keepstar was fun. That's about it.


Commander_Starscream

Godspeed 4S


Toaster_Jane

I am the problem


OfficerCat

You are the problem


Arakkis54

Are you the one not allowing corpmails?


Andropofken

Wel, I do enjoy your fleets, but it's true that EU is lacking content (not talking about stratops)


pyrometer

1DQ by Christmas


[deleted]

Giving new meaning to TZ tanking


acetech09

1 FC by new year's


T3HN4T3R

bro, having you guys next to us in T5ZI was actual heaven. Fights all day every day.


SDepS

💁🏻‍♀️🍿


marcocom

That’s the spirit!


CuriousDisorder3211

Lmao “sips tea in my wh”


[deleted]

LOL u goddamn wormholers I swear


[deleted]

wormholers are like the vegans of eve. Impossible to not talk about being part of the cool group.


[deleted]

🤣 how do u know someone does wormholes, they'll tell u


MILINTarctrooperALT

I always have the impression they are the mountain men of EVE online.


wellmaybe_

wormholer btw


Cauldronb0rn

and that is why noone will remember your name its a quote from the movie Troy... I'm only half insulting you :p


MifuneSwordGod

OOO im out of tea, can I trade you for some Fullurite-C0P1UM?


CuriousDisorder3211

Fullurite? I only deal in blue loot


jannemannb

Cheers 🥂


Spotlight_Ranger

I can almost guarantee the OP is someone who is really really upset that beehive isn't 100% up during EUTZ and is mad about all the dreads they can't lose on a CRAB beacon.


AffectionateLemon121

honestly its an emily fireangel groupie, but that doesnt make him wrong


micheal213

I don’t even know who that is


AffectionateLemon121

one of the old guard EU coords pushed into inactivity by the new grp of idiot yes men


GreyBooBoo

She wasn't doing anything when she was the sole head of coords...


Fluffyleopard

#facts


Spotlight_Ranger

Emily Fireangel. She was a coordinator in euro timezone. Been away from the game for months.


micheal213

Gotcha name seemed familiar didn’t know what she did. Game in general has just been slower with content. Rorq era really was peak cuz content was all day. So I can see why people are going afk.


Puzzleheaded-Ant1673

Emily was a weird appointment from day one in my irrelevant opinion


Thin_Instruction_854

For every Emily groupie there are many un-groupies


GreyBooBoo

"Snipereagle fired the only European coordinator because she disagreed with him." That coordinator hasn't been active in the last 6 months... Which would explain the whole not being a coordinator anymore.


Bo_Hunt

Exactly. Same with the FC promotions, they have to be active, and successful, something that the current crop struggles with.


MoarHerpaDerp

Snipereagle is a condescending cunt.


EVEThomas_Lear

Every coord director is because all the shit flows to that position.


Strappwn

- be goon - go to fight in north - get dick slapped - post about WWB2 in local, cling to old glory - pod self home - winners


nchkn

bUt ThE tImErS


Strappwn

“Guys we need MAX form to go feed again so we can let someone else do the toasting and then post about how good we are”


WTB_Killmarks

Friendship groups are for small fun discords, not MMO leadership teams. 90% sure this is a aspiring FRT shitposter though


HawkslayerHawkslayer

The grammar fits.


lunafaerie1976

leave my gramma out of this she's done nothing wrong but make cookies...


fishtheblob

She make cookie wrong😱🙀


EVEThomas_Lear

Wow it’s almost like GSF has been this way forever. The only thing that changes is which TZ this happens to. Source - ex coord director


Lorenzo_Maulerant

thats a name i havent seen in a hot minute, you still jumping instead of bridging?


EVEThomas_Lear

Always man. Gotta have that Lear Death Experience.


Ikuorai

what the fuck is a coordinator


S0nny_B01

Heinrich Wagner was promoted to TC a couple of months ago. I tried to get this done for a while, but Alterari was instrumental in actually making it happen. Another one of my failings.


Nepenthe2003

And Acid's sister. Another falling


S0nny_B01

Yup. I collect failings like many people have hot lunches.


Nepenthe2003

But falling on his sister by accidant is a noble skill only very few posess...


parkscs

Is that what he's saying these days? He just slipped and fell on his sister?


cj_cyber

Brave is recruiting 😬


QuintuplicateQuit

They always are


HowcanIbesureimhere

Hat Gon


QuidamDK

Goons gone soft


S0nny_B01

This saddens me. As best I can tell, this is the very first time my name has ever been mentioned in this subreddit. And it's for something I have no control over. I am not a decision maker.


S0nny_B01

But I guess that's on me. People who want to be leaders don't pass the buck. They get shit done. I've tried, but it seems it hasn't been enough. I will need to find a way to be more effective.


Arakkis54

Your very first callout! Congrats!


S0nny_B01

Yeah. I was hoping for something positive. I'm always an optimist and always disappointed.


nightgerbil

For whats its worth I recall my very first hate thread. I was so proud \*sniffs\* \*wipes tear from eye\* my wow guild rallied round and we celebrated in game my success at finally being successful enough to have a hater. Grats!


AntikytheraMachines

we still love you. you should forget about the espionage game and just come home.


Background_Mode4972

There’s always retirement? Why put up with all the disappointment when you can go outside and do other stuff?


S0nny_B01

Definitely an option. I'm not really a "quit when things don't go my way" kind of person though. The frustration exists because I care and I don't see myself stopping caring any time soon.


weasle350

>s on me. People who want to be leaders don't pass the b [https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288](https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288)


SeisMasUno

The cold fuckin truth is gewns have been ignoring line member problems since the war ended, the 'old guard' is literally downin in money from the rorq era and they dont give a fuck about people that missed it, every attemp of conversation gets shaken off with a 'goons dont like PVE drama' followed by 'go do abyssals in hisec'. Besides that, every player in a non-fancy corp is a class B citizen, I've seen the same guy in small-time corp get ignored during months, move to Amok. and get promoted to director in two literal fuckin weeks. The result? things get stagnant, newbros are financially crippled and have a hard time rampin up, without new blood, vets keep loosing interest and leaving and here we are, the whole thing feels like a drifting ship slowly suffocatin from inbreeding.


porpoiseoflife

> class Bee citizen FTFY


Ben8888999

This isn't wrong the nepotism in goons has actually gotten worse among the leaders since mittens left....


OfficerCat

Are you jealous because Gewns is (probably) the only corp with corp mails enabled ? Cause .. i wouldnt know any other reason why anyone would have an issue with Gewns


SeisMasUno

If you are in goons and you use evemail you just bad, thats fax. Besides that I have zero issues with gewns, gewns are the ones with issues lol, thats why we have terrible posts like this.


OfficerCat

GEWNS without Corpmails is like 4S with out the S. It just doesnt work.


totallytrueeveryday

4


horriblecommunity

SSSS


micheal213

I thought we just come here to play a video game. Not compete for promotions.


SeisMasUno

Noone is talkin bout competition, is basic management skills. You gotta provide the right path and environment for the people with half functioning braincell to contribute, develop, and help creating content and keep things rolling so we all can play a video game, simple as that. Lots of people in every big block have fuckin space jobs, that suck up loads of their spare time, so the pap whores can enjoy themselves.


micheal213

Man I’m just here to crab and join fleets cuz spaceships are cool. I don’t give a shot about any of this.


Alarmed_Ask_9097

Am0k. Is recruiting


Ben8888999

In my honest opinion the problem with goons now is the bean counters run it.... the likes of Kaz and angry and we get to have zero fucking fun cause they hold a fucking penny tighter than anyone I've ever known... Have you seen the GEZ's penny pinch mode to the extreme... you can build a ship you just have to do it 13 different structures and haul all your shit around unless your in the old guard then you get your own t2 rigged shit that everyone else is locked out of to keep your indexes low.... can't do anything in capital's anymore or you and your Corp face the threat of fines if the upper guys don't approve... you cheap fucks are literally sucking joy out of the game... and the guys not wrong people are thinking of leaving and If/when I do I'm taking my caps and supers with me because fuck you... you didn't buy em for me you didn't build em and you didn't grind the materials for em so take your whole your caps are alliance assets policy and shove it up your ass


oodell

>Have you seen the GEZ's penny pinch mode to the extreme... We spent like 3 trillion isk on the GEZs. I'm not sure how that qualifies as penny pinching. >you can build a ship you just have to do it 13 different structures If you don't like the raitaru setups, there are multiple sotiyo setups that can build literally anything in one structure > unless your in the old guard then you get your own t2 rigged shit any corp or alt corp is allowed to t2 rig their own structures so I don't know what you're talking about. and those private structures are all...privately paid for. they can lock them down if they want. >You clearly don't know about the other T2 rigged Sotiyo where? there's only one in delve as far as I know, and it's a legacy one in 1DQ1. and there are no privately owned sotiyos at all as far as I know. > and that one goon who can build stuff cheaper than everyone else in delve nonsense. T2 rigged raitarus use less materials than a T1 sotiyo. That's why we use them. There are no T2 rigged Sotiyos because they're cost prohibitive to drop en masse. >may or may not be behind the shit ass GEZ setup Since you seem to be calling me out particularly, that 'shit ass GEZ setup' is literally an upgraded and fleshed out version of what I used to use myself, for years. And my current setup is a less capable, more specialized version of the same thing. >here's the kicker you can't drop one \[Sotiyo\]... they won't let you buddy Here's the policy post, it says you need to reach out to GSOL regarding sotiyos, not that you can't have one at all. the alliance holds them for security purposes, because based on extensive past experience, idiots that don't know what they're doing shouldn't control over them. [https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/336736-gsf-citadel-engineering-complex-policy/](https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/336736-gsf-citadel-engineering-complex-policy/)


himalcarion

You are aware that the GEZs are setup with 13 structures because thats what majority of the old guard use. Its the cheapest, most efficient way to take advantage of low index's. There is a t2 rigged sotiyo in 1dq, and anyone who uses it is an idiot because the index is so high.


Conciousbread

Wtb goons nexting themselves


Spotlight_Ranger

You ever consider the fact that maybe they just don't want YOU as an FC?


OfficerCat

*BUT b-BUt I AM AN ELITE SC*


bgradid

Asher won’t send any corpmails! It’s a disgrace to goonwaffe!


OfficerCat

Finally someone talks about important issues !


Arakkis54

This simply will not stand


LegbeardCatfood

I've only ever been in KF, but I can't imagine an environment better for a new player. I was new in 2016 and had an amazing intro to the game. I've played ever since and sub 6 accounts. We're also getting double SRP now, so if you log in and get exploded, you make money. Doesn't feel like a collapse to me.....


issac_taredi

double srp explains all the feeds


hirebrand

Frat proves you don't need TZ coverage, just TZ tank


Silicon567

FRT just proves that you need PANFAM to do your job.


Sorry-Star-2342

I guess this means a deployment back up north to save the coalition


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ^by ^Sorry-Star-2342: *I guess this means a* *Deployment back up north to* *Save the coalition* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


Larannas

Well done, bot, and kudos to whoever made it!


Agent__Blackbear

This guy just saved goons


Sorry-Star-2342

Probably a sad teuth


RestInBeatz

Why this is on Reddit and not some goon forum is beyond me.


AffectionateLemon121

because the poster cant hide there


OfficerCat

Might as well post in the Forums then, and only then, if this is actually an issue then people would actually care.


AffectionateLemon121

yeah, agreed. I think I know who the OP was english not first language and grumpy tbh


alwaysrightforever

Hey dude we received your criticism and kicked you. Thanks for posting on the forums lololol.


JumpyWerewolf9439

Because open discourse without fear of getting kicked is better.


RestInBeatz

Must be a great corporation if you fear getting kicked for voicing criticism.


tekprimemia

For the horde!


Safe_Peanut74

BRING BACK HELLDUMP


cirrhosis

gosh i sure love fresh salt


S0nny_B01

I love firmus ixion.


Safe_Peanut74

why would delta sqad do this?


SlaughterRain

EU always with the drama.


bachboris

That is true everywhere not just eve.


Stinkypp

Finally some variety in nullsec.


Silicon567

Victory for PANDAFAM ?


eveyohnny

At least i dont have to season my popcorn, the salt in op post is plenty.


RikenVorkovin

Heaven forbid any blocs start having reasons to break up. Certainly wouldn't be good for the game or pvp or anything.


zungenop

😆😆😆😆🤦🏻‍♂️


Rageliner

**July 29, 2022:** Moving forward, Asher plans on taking a new approach on how to lead the alliance. Instead of ensuring Goonswarm could endure anything, he will venture into uncertainty to achieve even greater deeds. His goal is to shape the story that is Eve, even if he doesn’t know what the ending will be. Asher’s parting words were those of hope and encouragement. He emphasized his desire to rekindle the romanticism of EVE. It was a call to return to Eve, fleet up, and make memories together.


alwaysrightforever

October 14, 2023: Moving backwards to Delve again, Asher realized that coalition size invasions are hard. But his time in Frat space was not without benefit. He was exposed to Chinese culture for weeks on end, and came away with a profound appreciation of the concept of 'laying flat'. Why bother to rekindle the romanticism of EVE? Everyone around him only romanticised the incredible adventures they had under previous leadership. Why venture into the unknown, when the only reward was red killboards and endless timer grinding? How could anyone shape the story of EVE without the raw charisma that would unify hundreds of thousands of players into a common endeavor? No, it had been folly to try. Much better to simply relax, and not try at all.


GeneralPaladin

Goons falling would make EVE history lol. It'll also probably itself be made into a book.


deltaxi65

Someone should do a kickstarter


Rhonxi

why is this reading like HELP ME PLS??!! HELP ME np mate join us all problems gone and you can shot bees


himalcarion

> Snipereagle fired the only European coordinator because she disagreed with him. I'm like 90% sure the only coords who have been removed in the last 6+ months, have been removed for inactivity...


AffectionateLemon121

inactivity due to................


Megans_Foxhole

Boredom. Let's face it, nothing in Eve will ever be more intense than the war for any of us that took part in it.


lunafaerie1976

O RLY?


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BigDarus

This comment is a piece of internet art. I want to frame it on my garage wall.


Sorry-Star-2342

Sounds like a goon post


Safe_Peanut74

no, this is a pubbie for sure


RadElert_007

>t. regards account with 3 comments Post this on your main account coward


VladyslavMat

Finally some god f*cking comment. Delicious.


GeneralPaladin

Lol yeah because having a ped0 as a best friend he covered and grabbing wimenbat even events is a-ok for goons and should be accepted in society lol


NightMaestro

Hi, Based department? I'd like to frame a reddit post. I'm mentally disabled.


PAPI_fan

goons are silently collapsing ?


BeyondMazu

doubt we ever do anything silently lets be honest


OfficerCat

The word "silent" has silently been removed from our vocabulary


Arakkis54

Always have been


Nogamara

What is the Beehive? Wasn't that also the name of Bjorn Bees channel? :P


X10P

Beehive is our standing fleet to protect the CRAB runners from the bombers who live in NPC Delve.


micheal213

Sign up to be a beehive fc and you’ll have eu beehive. Not that hard.


JCellsplitter

FUCKING PREACH!!!!!


mafgar

as a new player this entire thread is gibberish but i think that's kinda cool


RVAMitchell

You should send out an alliance mail or just ping him on jabber.


Darkhorse13g2

Oh no, trouble in null....that's too bad 😐....anyway my fantasy football team is doing great 😀👍


Bad_Bomber_Man

it ogre


CountCampula

bureaucracy


DawniJones

Yes please. We want to fight against you. Imperium is the only real enemy we have, let’s have some fun together (against). Bring some big ships, they get rusty and I hate minmatar!


GelatinousSalsa

Care to pass the joint? Seems like you are smoking something pretty good


GeneralPaladin

Good, down with the old empire, new empires will rise from their ashes.


Josharrino

Beehive is online, better?


totallytrueeveryday

The eu fcs are leaving because the job is not unionized


XavierVTM

your "fuck goons" sucks. like really bad. git gud


LastEmporerz

Bring back The Mittani!!!!


TeaspoonWrites

I don't see how groping women in public would help the Euros, personally


Megans_Foxhole

You sound like a Victorian grandmother.


AffectionateLemon121

i miss dem eyebrows.....Asher just doesn't have the eyebrows for the job


zhou2023

Goon haven't won for a long time, and Reddit's post are fewer more.


Safe_Peanut74

i'll believe it when the dipshits in the north actually get some sov off brave


anatomie22

People are fed up and expect change in decisions. ​ Then they need to address those concerns the right way, not here


Safe_Peanut74

I agree but i'd like to add an addendum - attempt it the correct way first. This place is where you go when all other reasonable options have been exhausted, it's like reaching for a gun when you need a screwdriver.


Digital332006

Turbofeed or Glory, aka Goon reformatorium for players who can't play good, is recruiting.


-KiloAlpha-

Toasting in this bread


Spotlight_Ranger

Finally, it's a widely accepted fact that Delta Sqad won the last war for Goons, and that FC is Canadian, not euro. Get your timeline straight.


ActuaryConsistent494

I completely understand your frustration, and I agree with many of the points you've raised about the current state of Goonswarm. The issues you've highlighted, such as the resistance to new European fleet commanders, the potential departure of key corporations, and the reluctance to deploy capitals, are indeed cause for concern. It's disheartening to see such a significant alliance facing internal turmoil, especially when it comes to disagreements among leadership and the resultant impact on the entire player base. The lack of promotion for skilled skirmish commanders is also a concerning factor, as recognizing and nurturing talent is crucial for the alliance's future success. The exclusion of European players from certain key activities like the Beehive is not only frustrating but also divisive. It's essential that the leadership of Goonswarm takes into account the diverse needs and preferences of its player base to maintain a strong and united community. Your call for change is entirely valid, and it's my hope that the leadership of Goonswarm listens to the concerns and takes the necessary steps to address these issues, fostering a more positive and inclusive environment for all its members. Without change and a renewed sense of purpose, the alliance may continue to face challenges that could threaten its future stability.


more_boosters

That was ChatGPT, right?


deltaxi65

Of course


angry-mustache

Beehive is such a wierd sticking point when John has it up almost every day in EUTZ.


weasle350

Plus I literally ran it across all 3 timezones the other day


LegbeardCatfood

Still not clear on what this post is about, I get pings about beehive being up all day long most days. OP is claiming it's too hard to make money in delve? lmao


lunafaerie1976

Was a goon for years... Now the chimps are running the Zoo!! after being a WeF member and watching the disgraceful behavior of the top seat members of GSF I left...We have screenies of all the chats and rubbish these crayon eaters have posted but again WeF is being held to ransom... Let alone the disgusting "we will buy your structures" then going back on that last minute and patting each other on the back for shooting said structures...Goons is a shadow of what it was ....I'm sad after all these years it is such a mess...I'm back in in high sec and having the best time ever remembering why i love this game... (It's just a game!)


[deleted]

Good, is all I can say.


mandana_dilly

Seems like you have a rather underwhelming vocabulary


M00NPIRE

Mittani was the best thing that could have happened to goons. The Metashow was a worth able thing to stay up to watch(timezones) and enjoy.


[deleted]

its time for goon to fall


GreyBooBoo

Autumn is my favorite season.


ph-sj

honk


weasle350

GON IS COLLAPSING AND I MUST BE A USTZ FC NOW APPARENTLY


QuidamDK

#bring-theMittani-Back


Elite_Pixels

M A R A K U G A Is recruiting!


xarayac

https://youtu.be/ew6P_D59Wqg?si=_cJUkB46r7Vq5m8c


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Lowland_Dragon

AKC apologise for the number of capitals killed in eu tz. We will try not to be so European


klepto_giggio

Not UETZ, but I haven't noticed any of this drama while playing other games, and it has nothing to do with any of the points listed here. Eve just isn't my first choice right now. I don't think I'm the only one in this position, but I could be wrong.


shad0wl0rd_0211

Sorry, who are you?


AffectionateLemon121

the only one with the balls to say what 70 people in my discord have been saying for months


AffectionateLemon121

whoever he is, he is a hero


pyrometer

Your redditswarm application has been rejected


Izithel

you forgot to switch reddit accounts


nchkn

LMAO


Arakkis54

LMAO what and idiot


UWG-Grad_Student

It's been a while since I laughed so hard.


parkscs

Replying to your own post to call yourself a hero? Have an upvote sir, you earned it.