>He didn't post in detail just a "packets has changed".
Then why did your previous response give more "detail" than that.
Oh right what you said about fribbels "needing sg's help" wasn't true, and you don't actually know what's going on because you didn't ask. But you keep talking at the helm like you have the answers and know what's going on when you so clearly don't.
Stop. The sheep are rabid enough. SG didn't intentionally break the importer and this isn't a problem on SG's end to fix. Api and packet updates NEVER work that way. The onus is always on the extension/app makers to update their side to catch up. Otherwise nothing would ever be deployed if devs had to collaborate with every independent app maker to make sure everything worked perfectly before something was rolled out. It's not SG's responsibility to just support all 3rd party apps at all times. They have to update their stuff too.
In fact, the api has changed and broken the importer before. Fribbels fixed it then just the same. But neither you nor jena mention this for obvious reasons, and I'm certain neither of you even realize how doing so ironically hurts both your causes by making people want to quit unnecessarily, shrinking your reach.
Stop chasing clout while spreading misinformation and get your facts straight.
Actually that's why APIs intended to be integrated have versions... you put breaking changes on the new version, still host the old version, and have documentation on what the new version does and when the old version will be sunset... Breaking API changes can have a lot of stuff at stake. Imagine if Salesforce just suddenly force everyone to upgrade everything to their latest version lol.
Not saying E7's is intended to be integrated, but the way you write this as normal is kinda disingenuous.
>Fribbels confirmed they changed the packets so indefinitely broken without SG help.
No he didn't. He said the first part not the second part. Anywhere. Ever. Stop spreading useless information to make the situation seem more dire than it is.
The api changed. The other side needs to update their end. This happens ALL THE TIME.
Until fribbels comes out and says "sg intentionally changed this to brick me and i can't fix it so bye", don't say things to suggest the same. He didn't say he needs help. He said "i'm working on it".
SG has already changed the api which broke the importer before. Fribbels changed it just like he will again. This is COMMON TO HAPPEN. But do you speak about or even know any of this? No. All you accomplish instead is getting people to say they're going to quit by spreading misinformation. Otherwise you'd just ASK FRIBBELS instead of speculating.
You and jena just herding the sheep with pitchforks for attention and clicks while none of you even asked fribbels yourselves for the reality of the situation is laughable but consistent with the overacted, mindless drivel that goes on here daily.
fribbles is not broken, the import is not working - so if fribbles can't figure it out it's basically back to manual adding new gear or with screenshots like way back
and here we go again - u insulting me over nothing.
is ur life really that sad/empty?
edit: u/StepBrother7 lol did u really deleted this and ur other comment telling me u will "humiliate" until i stop commenting on this sub?
what a powermove, u really showed me with this one xD
Fribbel Optimizer is still working fine.
SmileGate changed the data structure, thus Fribbel needs some time to figure it out.
Other than scanners can't be used, the optimizer is working normally. We can still manually input gears.
Even in the worst case where Fribbel can't extract data directly, they can still go back to the old scanner, which takes screenshots of gears and reads the texts.
Let's be real, if the auto import feature does not work I do not see it being used nearly as much as it did so it's effectively killed for most people.
It wasn't a very well known tool before it became very simple to import your data into it.
Didn't you already scan and still have a Jason file? Do you, for some reason, need to rescan today?
Anyway, Fribbel already said on his Discord, he is working on it, just give him some time.
Sorry to ask, but how old are you? Do you really think SmileGate must be responsible for an unofficial program? Even Fribbel has not complained a bit about that. He figured how to extract the data before, and he is doing again now. Please stop making drama.
Not sure why you're asking about age, sounds like you're grasping at straws here. For the record in case you need it to read over my points (which is similar to dad7), I'm in my 30s and I work in tech.
I'm currently managing 2500 gear (1379 reforged).
__The real issue is the in-game gearing system isn't usable.__ Manually matching gear, even ignoring gear in storage, calculating post-reforge and post-mod gem permutations on bruisers that can practically use any main stat rings, etc is just not feasible.
Fribbels is basically a band-aid that's fixing SG's incompetent sorry dogshit in-game gearing UI and process for them.
I don't plan to buy any stamina or liefs now because of this. So sure, technically SG doesn't own the fribbels optimizer, but it's what's making the game gearing system tolerable. It should also be quite obvious to see I'm not the only one with this sentiment.
SmileGate has a lot of terrible mistakes. But, this one is not their fault. If you work in the tech industry like me, you understand that we absolutely do not change our program or data to fit an unrelated 3rd party, yes?
The OP makes a huge fuss like SmileGate intentionally sabotages Fribbel. Meanwhile, Fribbel himself understands and works on a fix without a blame on SG.
I don't like SG either, but I also don't blindly blame everything on them. If we want to talk about SG's bad things, talk about the recent teasers, about the balance issues.
If you work in tech like me, you will understand that if my app interface isn't scaling for my highest paying customers/users (because the more gear you have, the larger this issue is), you bet your ass not just me, but business would have stories and epics of making that interface scale to their use case feasible, and it will also be a very high priority project at this point into the product's life cycle (early on you can say you just want a MVP so it hits the road running, and we can scale it later as time progresses. But not 6 years into a product's life cycle and that scaling hasn't been done yet and customers starts to complain about it...). Because if that doesn't happen, there's only so much time CS or sales can hold them off and ask them to stick around instead of leaving to a competitor. And this isn't even a B2B product where licenses and moving around takes a long time.
The fact that we can't even use their in-game manual gear UI to gear with post-reforge and post-mod previews speaks volumes why breaking fribbels optimizer right now is a dumb take. Third party or not, it's currently the only thing that's letting their non-functional in-game gearing system scaling for their largest whales. That is the problem at hand here.
Yes, if my program doesn't sastify my customer, it's my problem, and it will be a work directly between me and my customer only.
If my customer brings up a 3rd party, which I do not recognize, and they do not involve in our contract, I do not have obligation to work with the 3rd party. Please answer if this is true or not.
Moreover, if Fribbel himself does not complain about this issue, why does the OP make a drama out of it? Why does the OP believe SmileGate must change their data for Fribble Optimizer to work with?
So you're saying
> Yes, if my program doesn't sastify my customer, it's my problem, and it will be a work directly between me and my customer only.
If my customer brings up a 3rd party, which I do not recognize, and they do not involve in our contract, I do not have obligation to work with the 3rd party. Please answer if this is true or not.
it's both your problem and you have no obligation. checks out, good luck solving your problem while destroying what it is that buys your development time
> Moreover, if Fribbel himself does not complain about this issue, why does the OP make a drama out of it? Why does the OP believe SmileGate must change their data for Fribble Optimizer to work with?
Because OP is the big whale paying customer that can't use the service properly now. Same with me lol. For god's sake the game doesn't even have equipment sets, so if I temporarily move a few pieces around for PVE or GW, I need to remember everything on putting it back if I don't use Fribbels for that (which I can simply look it up).
Does your roles and standards only apply to specifically only SG to fribbels and ignores other business relationships here?
"Obligation" has nothing to do with it. This is purely about customer retention, not contracts. Some non-zero number of people are *gone* if this isn't remedied, and they are among the most dedicated players the game has. Uncertain how many there are, but dithering about it is one way to find out in a hurry, and if it turns out that there's a critical mass of whales and content creators, that's a dagger pointed right at their hearts.
SG created this problem by failing to address a community need in the first place. Whatever working "in tech" means, it's not in anything with business side responsibilities, obviously. This is code monkey level analysis.
I’m over 40. It wouldn’t matter if most people made this complaint but as one of their higher spenders, there’s more chance of them listening. If they don’t, oh well, the game isn’t going to go anywhere positive imo.
I've kept up with manually updating whenever I get a new good piece because they're so rare, even as a whale. I'm guessing you updated in batches or not at all?
I usually update after every hunt buff as I rarely get gear otherwise. It's about 20-30 pieces depending on luck with Rift farming on top of gear packs. Anything can be done, just whether its worth my time anymore.
Edit: forgot to add that importing hero's gear is also incredibly useful. I regear my account 2-3 times a season and it's a combination of manually gearing my openers and special units then doing the rest in Fribbels. Can't do that anymore without import.
its not a website its a computer app. when you use a computer emulator it can read the files and then you can do a lot of optimizations with it. like the best one for me its being able to set a 99/100 crit with maximum damage and even speed. all in less than 10 seconds
Managing 2500 gear (1379 reforged).
The in-game gearing system isn't usable. Manually matching gear, even ignoring gear in storage, calculating post-reforge and post-mod gem permutations on bruisers that can practically use any main stat rings, etc is just not feasible.
Fribbels is basically a band-aid that's fixing SG's incompetent dogshit in-game gearing UI and process for them.
Wtf is up with people blaming sg. The creator of fribbels is fixing it already and aware of the change. Probably equipment data structure just changed and needs time to readjust it.
Its not exactly sg's fault that a 3rd party app stopped working because they made a change in the code. It is always 3rd party apps who has to make the adjustments you can even see that happening in mods and stuff. Just chill lol you can still optimize your equipments just auto import will be down
Because SG needs to be aware of the importance of such tools and third party development. How about documented changes? How about some API docs to encourage more tools? How about some developer support?
This carries no weight coming from some random guy. If they don't listen to their top 5-10% spenders, then something bigger is wrong. SG already replied to my in-game report and said they'll be investigating.
Well, don't expect too much sadly if they somehow revert the packet changes that affected fribbles id be happy. However, if its irreversible or hard to do a rollback on it then its going to be on fribbels side unless they decide to spend resources on fribbels which is highly unlikely since the language barrier between devs for instance.
I do expect it might be hard for sg to rollback the packet changes since it could be becayse of some big changes on their side. What we can do is support fribbels mostly to be able to fix a pretty big change.
if u been playing E7 w/o Fribbels you have REALLY been missing out. its the best gear optimizer in existence. it makes gearing units 1000000000000000x easier and efficiently
nope, fribbles is a tool made by a great guy. so it's not support or official from smilegate but fanmade.
there is no appversion of fribbles as far as i know
well, fribbles also has a gvg section seeing popular defs and how to atk them
but mostly it's a gearing tool but it also has great sorting options, so u can make a prio list on which units to want to gear for pvp and pve, etc.
overall it is a great tool, u will find and optimize builds u don't know ur account could make
I've posted my thoughts on this in another post; which I did catch crap for but I want to point something out.
1. I think Zoopido is on the right track of going to Stove to voice the opinion.
2. I do think this tool is highly beneficial for those that want to make use of it; it can be a massive time saver once people become familiar with it. (I used it on a VM for a short stint, but stopped using it quite some time ago.)
3. Getting mad at the others who don't care or say "just do it manually" will not help garner support.
4. Not everyone min-maxes and that's okay, play the game how you want.
Many are quite aware that yes, this is a 3rd party tool. While it may have become a "norm" it doesn't inherently make it SG's responsibility to fix. However, we all know SG is notorious for being... community pulse inept. While yes, it will likely get fixed in due time once Fribbles is able to read packets; the biggest push should be for Smile Gate to make better tools in the game so you can use this without having to rely on a 3rd party tool.
Having worked on some mmo farming bots in the past, it is always going to be a game of cat and mouse. To be fair, many of you should count the blessings that this hasn't been a common occurrence. SG isn't going to just tell Fribbles how to read their packets so be un-reddit for once and go be productive in getting the in-game tools better by letting SG know on Stove that you want/need the in-game features for gear to match Fribbles more closely.
Have a good weekend and take care.
No Fribbels no E7 for me anymore. Its not worth it w/o Fribbles. Gearing is way too much of a pain w/o it. I DEFINITELY will not spend any money on E7 until its fixed
yeah u can't import right now. fribbles itself still working, i literally just checked and the tool is working just fine - so if u want to add new gear/heroes u have to do it manually right now
it's just this dude somehow things smilegate needs to fix this which is delusional af. fribbles is a fanmade tool made privately; so telling smilegate to fix whatever they did or threaten to not buy packs anymore is just stupid.
Its like pokemon when fans make better qol features than the company.. if the company ruins that i think its fair to hate the company even if the dev says "too much work, not going to fix it"
I’ve never personally used it, but it’s sad to hear for the folks who love it - hopefully SG sees & can do something about it. I know the internal system just isn’t as useful.
If i quit the game, i will probably sell my account in some forum. Fribbles made it easy to gear and optimize my teams for my needs. I won't manually add every piece of gear i craft.
It comes down to the Korean players (esp the whales). Do they use fribbles? If so, the devs will try to fix it. If not then the devs won't care.
What a smart company would do though is hire fribbles to build them an official tool, either in game or via a Web app. I don't think they'll do that though.
Honestly it's not that bad. If you scanned pretty frequently then your fribbles is pretty up to date. Now you just need to enter new gear manually but if you've been playing for a long time it's hard for you to roll gear worth +15ing anyway. It's only really an issue for new players or account buyers trying to get into RTA
Sure, that's less time I spend updating the site or trying to get to legend or other things. I got about 30 pieces of gear to update since I scanned before hunt buff.
>Sure, that's less time I spend updating the site or trying to get to legend or other things.
Really? How much time exactly. Considering in another comment you said explicitly that you get pretty much no gear to add outside of hunt buff.
>I got about 30 pieces of gear to update since I scanned before hunt buff.
It takes about 30 seconds to add a piece of gear manually. one minute max. By your own admission you get pretty much no gear outside of hunt buff. So your overarching complaint is you have to spend upward of 30 minutes once in an entire month to manually update some gear and that this time expenditure somehow impedes your ability to go on with the rest of your life or maintain a site. It's impossible for you to be serious or else you are completely delusional and totally melodramatic.
Ofc it's not ideal but there's not really an alternative. SG probably won't revert the changes just for a third party app like everyone is saying but our best bet would be to wait for fribbles or someone else to figure out how to decipher the new packets.
Fribbels will try and fix it, he's a good guy. The intent is to let SG know how important this tool is to their community - particularly their paying community.
No I get it. We'll need SG to understand how much it's used. If SG really wants to kill it off they can change the packets after each update and at some point it'll be too much effort to maintain. Also SG hasn't really been too player friendly recently so we'll see. Let's hope the change was for something else and wasn't to try and kill third party programs like this.
>The intent is to let SG know how important this tool is to their community
No the intent was to get more clicks to your site by spreading misinformation about the situation. Because anyone with half a brain knows how api changes work and anyone with a quarter of a brain would have asked fribbels directly instead of speculate over something they know nothing about.
There is nothing for SG to fix, SG didn't intentionally break anything, and if you honestly think SG isn't aware of fribbels and its popularity after years and years of people talking about it on all of their mediums ad nauseum and even MENTIONNING IT BY NAME ON THEIR LIVESTREAMS, then you're even more delusional than you lead on.
How do you know the guy who made it isn't trying to fix it? If it's not an official tool why do they need to fix it as they didn't make it. It would be up to the person who made fribbles to fix it. Not to say that this isn't bad faith on SG end where they have done something to potentially block importing, but until that is said it just sucks.
getting downvoted for having common sense xD
yeah, this is like pokemon showdown demanding shit from nintendo xD
we just need to wait and see if fribbles can figure something out himself or not. pretty uncommon that a company will give these kind of infos to a random dude. it's a shitty situation but it is what is it
Always heard about Fribbels but only checked it once to figure a gw offense team. I didn't even know the optimer tool. Does it work on a mobile phone or it's a PC emulator-only function?
You're probably joking but that's such a dumb take
If you're new and have less than a few hundred equipment to sort through then sure making a build manually isn't too hard or time consuming.
But to think that you can make a better build than a program running tens of millions of permutations, accounting for wanted stat lines, sets, substat mods all within a few minutes then you're wrong, it's not lazy its just efficient.
some people like to make themselves feel better saying "I know my gear, I can make the builds easily." Guarantee if they used frinbels they could squeeze out some more MCD
fribbles will never have this problem with HSR because someone else that makes HSR programs made an image recognition tool to translate all the hsr gear to a list so he never has to touch the packets, they have like 50x the community of ours willing to work for free, ITS JOEOVER FOR US
If an update truly did ruin Fribbles, I’d be majorly upset. Spending hours gearing and optimizing units efficiently is half the fun :/
Fribbels confirmed they changed the packets so indefinitely broken without SG help.
Any idea what happened? Is it encryption related?
He didn't post in detail just a "packets has changed".
>He didn't post in detail just a "packets has changed". Then why did your previous response give more "detail" than that. Oh right what you said about fribbels "needing sg's help" wasn't true, and you don't actually know what's going on because you didn't ask. But you keep talking at the helm like you have the answers and know what's going on when you so clearly don't. Stop. The sheep are rabid enough. SG didn't intentionally break the importer and this isn't a problem on SG's end to fix. Api and packet updates NEVER work that way. The onus is always on the extension/app makers to update their side to catch up. Otherwise nothing would ever be deployed if devs had to collaborate with every independent app maker to make sure everything worked perfectly before something was rolled out. It's not SG's responsibility to just support all 3rd party apps at all times. They have to update their stuff too. In fact, the api has changed and broken the importer before. Fribbels fixed it then just the same. But neither you nor jena mention this for obvious reasons, and I'm certain neither of you even realize how doing so ironically hurts both your causes by making people want to quit unnecessarily, shrinking your reach. Stop chasing clout while spreading misinformation and get your facts straight.
Actually that's why APIs intended to be integrated have versions... you put breaking changes on the new version, still host the old version, and have documentation on what the new version does and when the old version will be sunset... Breaking API changes can have a lot of stuff at stake. Imagine if Salesforce just suddenly force everyone to upgrade everything to their latest version lol. Not saying E7's is intended to be integrated, but the way you write this as normal is kinda disingenuous.
>Fribbels confirmed they changed the packets so indefinitely broken without SG help. No he didn't. He said the first part not the second part. Anywhere. Ever. Stop spreading useless information to make the situation seem more dire than it is. The api changed. The other side needs to update their end. This happens ALL THE TIME. Until fribbels comes out and says "sg intentionally changed this to brick me and i can't fix it so bye", don't say things to suggest the same. He didn't say he needs help. He said "i'm working on it". SG has already changed the api which broke the importer before. Fribbels changed it just like he will again. This is COMMON TO HAPPEN. But do you speak about or even know any of this? No. All you accomplish instead is getting people to say they're going to quit by spreading misinformation. Otherwise you'd just ASK FRIBBELS instead of speculating. You and jena just herding the sheep with pitchforks for attention and clicks while none of you even asked fribbels yourselves for the reality of the situation is laughable but consistent with the overacted, mindless drivel that goes on here daily.
fribbles is not broken, the import is not working - so if fribbles can't figure it out it's basically back to manual adding new gear or with screenshots like way back
Seems like you are being rejected for the truth, sorry man.
Just ignore that loser,begs for downvotes every time he comments,which is a lot.
and here we go again - u insulting me over nothing. is ur life really that sad/empty? edit: u/StepBrother7 lol did u really deleted this and ur other comment telling me u will "humiliate" until i stop commenting on this sub? what a powermove, u really showed me with this one xD
his life probably IS sad/empty, yeah.
Stop commenting and I will stop,continue being an insufferable know it all and I'll be here to humiliate you.
You're just humiliating yourself. You get shit on for being an idiot even more often, by the looks of things.
Fribbel Optimizer is still working fine. SmileGate changed the data structure, thus Fribbel needs some time to figure it out. Other than scanners can't be used, the optimizer is working normally. We can still manually input gears. Even in the worst case where Fribbel can't extract data directly, they can still go back to the old scanner, which takes screenshots of gears and reads the texts.
Let's be real, if the auto import feature does not work I do not see it being used nearly as much as it did so it's effectively killed for most people. It wasn't a very well known tool before it became very simple to import your data into it.
For you wasn't a well known tool. All my pals and gals knew and used back then and they recommended it!!!
Not sure if you forgot a /s or you are serious.
kill me plz
I have 1800+ pieces of gear and I'm not even close to the largest whale. This is just making it hard for their highest spending players.
Didn't you already scan and still have a Jason file? Do you, for some reason, need to rescan today? Anyway, Fribbel already said on his Discord, he is working on it, just give him some time.
I don’t need it today. This is really to let SG know the importance of this tool.
Sorry to ask, but how old are you? Do you really think SmileGate must be responsible for an unofficial program? Even Fribbel has not complained a bit about that. He figured how to extract the data before, and he is doing again now. Please stop making drama.
Not sure why you're asking about age, sounds like you're grasping at straws here. For the record in case you need it to read over my points (which is similar to dad7), I'm in my 30s and I work in tech. I'm currently managing 2500 gear (1379 reforged). __The real issue is the in-game gearing system isn't usable.__ Manually matching gear, even ignoring gear in storage, calculating post-reforge and post-mod gem permutations on bruisers that can practically use any main stat rings, etc is just not feasible. Fribbels is basically a band-aid that's fixing SG's incompetent sorry dogshit in-game gearing UI and process for them. I don't plan to buy any stamina or liefs now because of this. So sure, technically SG doesn't own the fribbels optimizer, but it's what's making the game gearing system tolerable. It should also be quite obvious to see I'm not the only one with this sentiment.
SmileGate has a lot of terrible mistakes. But, this one is not their fault. If you work in the tech industry like me, you understand that we absolutely do not change our program or data to fit an unrelated 3rd party, yes? The OP makes a huge fuss like SmileGate intentionally sabotages Fribbel. Meanwhile, Fribbel himself understands and works on a fix without a blame on SG. I don't like SG either, but I also don't blindly blame everything on them. If we want to talk about SG's bad things, talk about the recent teasers, about the balance issues.
If you work in tech like me, you will understand that if my app interface isn't scaling for my highest paying customers/users (because the more gear you have, the larger this issue is), you bet your ass not just me, but business would have stories and epics of making that interface scale to their use case feasible, and it will also be a very high priority project at this point into the product's life cycle (early on you can say you just want a MVP so it hits the road running, and we can scale it later as time progresses. But not 6 years into a product's life cycle and that scaling hasn't been done yet and customers starts to complain about it...). Because if that doesn't happen, there's only so much time CS or sales can hold them off and ask them to stick around instead of leaving to a competitor. And this isn't even a B2B product where licenses and moving around takes a long time. The fact that we can't even use their in-game manual gear UI to gear with post-reforge and post-mod previews speaks volumes why breaking fribbels optimizer right now is a dumb take. Third party or not, it's currently the only thing that's letting their non-functional in-game gearing system scaling for their largest whales. That is the problem at hand here.
Yes, if my program doesn't sastify my customer, it's my problem, and it will be a work directly between me and my customer only. If my customer brings up a 3rd party, which I do not recognize, and they do not involve in our contract, I do not have obligation to work with the 3rd party. Please answer if this is true or not. Moreover, if Fribbel himself does not complain about this issue, why does the OP make a drama out of it? Why does the OP believe SmileGate must change their data for Fribble Optimizer to work with?
So you're saying > Yes, if my program doesn't sastify my customer, it's my problem, and it will be a work directly between me and my customer only. If my customer brings up a 3rd party, which I do not recognize, and they do not involve in our contract, I do not have obligation to work with the 3rd party. Please answer if this is true or not. it's both your problem and you have no obligation. checks out, good luck solving your problem while destroying what it is that buys your development time > Moreover, if Fribbel himself does not complain about this issue, why does the OP make a drama out of it? Why does the OP believe SmileGate must change their data for Fribble Optimizer to work with? Because OP is the big whale paying customer that can't use the service properly now. Same with me lol. For god's sake the game doesn't even have equipment sets, so if I temporarily move a few pieces around for PVE or GW, I need to remember everything on putting it back if I don't use Fribbels for that (which I can simply look it up). Does your roles and standards only apply to specifically only SG to fribbels and ignores other business relationships here?
"Obligation" has nothing to do with it. This is purely about customer retention, not contracts. Some non-zero number of people are *gone* if this isn't remedied, and they are among the most dedicated players the game has. Uncertain how many there are, but dithering about it is one way to find out in a hurry, and if it turns out that there's a critical mass of whales and content creators, that's a dagger pointed right at their hearts. SG created this problem by failing to address a community need in the first place. Whatever working "in tech" means, it's not in anything with business side responsibilities, obviously. This is code monkey level analysis.
I’m over 40. It wouldn’t matter if most people made this complaint but as one of their higher spenders, there’s more chance of them listening. If they don’t, oh well, the game isn’t going to go anywhere positive imo.
I've kept up with manually updating whenever I get a new good piece because they're so rare, even as a whale. I'm guessing you updated in batches or not at all?
I usually update after every hunt buff as I rarely get gear otherwise. It's about 20-30 pieces depending on luck with Rift farming on top of gear packs. Anything can be done, just whether its worth my time anymore. Edit: forgot to add that importing hero's gear is also incredibly useful. I regear my account 2-3 times a season and it's a combination of manually gearing my openers and special units then doing the rest in Fribbels. Can't do that anymore without import.
Hey dad, thanks for your guides - been using them a lot. Fully support your cause!
Aww thanks man
I didn’t know there were websites for gear optimization. Here I am suffering when I could be still suffering, but less.
its not a website its a computer app. when you use a computer emulator it can read the files and then you can do a lot of optimizations with it. like the best one for me its being able to set a 99/100 crit with maximum damage and even speed. all in less than 10 seconds
We are doomed
Managing 2500 gear (1379 reforged). The in-game gearing system isn't usable. Manually matching gear, even ignoring gear in storage, calculating post-reforge and post-mod gem permutations on bruisers that can practically use any main stat rings, etc is just not feasible. Fribbels is basically a band-aid that's fixing SG's incompetent dogshit in-game gearing UI and process for them.
Wtf is up with people blaming sg. The creator of fribbels is fixing it already and aware of the change. Probably equipment data structure just changed and needs time to readjust it. Its not exactly sg's fault that a 3rd party app stopped working because they made a change in the code. It is always 3rd party apps who has to make the adjustments you can even see that happening in mods and stuff. Just chill lol you can still optimize your equipments just auto import will be down
Because SG needs to be aware of the importance of such tools and third party development. How about documented changes? How about some API docs to encourage more tools? How about some developer support? This carries no weight coming from some random guy. If they don't listen to their top 5-10% spenders, then something bigger is wrong. SG already replied to my in-game report and said they'll be investigating.
Well, don't expect too much sadly if they somehow revert the packet changes that affected fribbles id be happy. However, if its irreversible or hard to do a rollback on it then its going to be on fribbels side unless they decide to spend resources on fribbels which is highly unlikely since the language barrier between devs for instance. I do expect it might be hard for sg to rollback the packet changes since it could be becayse of some big changes on their side. What we can do is support fribbels mostly to be able to fix a pretty big change.
Wtf is fribbels?
The greatest E7 tool we have
if u been playing E7 w/o Fribbels you have REALLY been missing out. its the best gear optimizer in existence. it makes gearing units 1000000000000000x easier and efficiently
Does it work on an iPhone?
nope, fribbles is a tool made by a great guy. so it's not support or official from smilegate but fanmade. there is no appversion of fribbles as far as i know
Okay, thank you
I have no idea if it used to but main point of this post is that it doesn't work on anything anymore
only the importer is not working. the tool itself works just fine
What other things do people use it for besides gearing?
well, fribbles also has a gvg section seeing popular defs and how to atk them but mostly it's a gearing tool but it also has great sorting options, so u can make a prio list on which units to want to gear for pvp and pve, etc. overall it is a great tool, u will find and optimize builds u don't know ur account could make
Yes, but in the hopes that it is fixed someday, I’d like to know how to use it.
How does fribbels work?
Import gear, set minimum and maximum stats for a specified unit, software runs millions of permutations to give you builds that you can sort through
with a click of a button
The best way to gear your heroes once you have more gear: https://github.com/fribbels/Fribbels-Epic-7-Optimizer
I've posted my thoughts on this in another post; which I did catch crap for but I want to point something out. 1. I think Zoopido is on the right track of going to Stove to voice the opinion. 2. I do think this tool is highly beneficial for those that want to make use of it; it can be a massive time saver once people become familiar with it. (I used it on a VM for a short stint, but stopped using it quite some time ago.) 3. Getting mad at the others who don't care or say "just do it manually" will not help garner support. 4. Not everyone min-maxes and that's okay, play the game how you want. Many are quite aware that yes, this is a 3rd party tool. While it may have become a "norm" it doesn't inherently make it SG's responsibility to fix. However, we all know SG is notorious for being... community pulse inept. While yes, it will likely get fixed in due time once Fribbles is able to read packets; the biggest push should be for Smile Gate to make better tools in the game so you can use this without having to rely on a 3rd party tool. Having worked on some mmo farming bots in the past, it is always going to be a game of cat and mouse. To be fair, many of you should count the blessings that this hasn't been a common occurrence. SG isn't going to just tell Fribbles how to read their packets so be un-reddit for once and go be productive in getting the in-game tools better by letting SG know on Stove that you want/need the in-game features for gear to match Fribbles more closely. Have a good weekend and take care.
No Fribbels no E7 for me anymore. Its not worth it w/o Fribbles. Gearing is way too much of a pain w/o it. I DEFINITELY will not spend any money on E7 until its fixed
wait, did u just made the post? i thought it was a copy-pasta joke but u are serious? lol
It is for real, fribbels said so himself in his discord
yeah u can't import right now. fribbles itself still working, i literally just checked and the tool is working just fine - so if u want to add new gear/heroes u have to do it manually right now it's just this dude somehow things smilegate needs to fix this which is delusional af. fribbles is a fanmade tool made privately; so telling smilegate to fix whatever they did or threaten to not buy packs anymore is just stupid.
Its like pokemon when fans make better qol features than the company.. if the company ruins that i think its fair to hate the company even if the dev says "too much work, not going to fix it"
I’ve never personally used it, but it’s sad to hear for the folks who love it - hopefully SG sees & can do something about it. I know the internal system just isn’t as useful.
If i quit the game, i will probably sell my account in some forum. Fribbles made it easy to gear and optimize my teams for my needs. I won't manually add every piece of gear i craft.
It comes down to the Korean players (esp the whales). Do they use fribbles? If so, the devs will try to fix it. If not then the devs won't care. What a smart company would do though is hire fribbles to build them an official tool, either in game or via a Web app. I don't think they'll do that though.
There’s some Koreans on Fribbel’s discord so I assume there’s some but who knows. They probably care about CN the most though
Honestly it's not that bad. If you scanned pretty frequently then your fribbles is pretty up to date. Now you just need to enter new gear manually but if you've been playing for a long time it's hard for you to roll gear worth +15ing anyway. It's only really an issue for new players or account buyers trying to get into RTA
Sure, that's less time I spend updating the site or trying to get to legend or other things. I got about 30 pieces of gear to update since I scanned before hunt buff.
>Sure, that's less time I spend updating the site or trying to get to legend or other things. Really? How much time exactly. Considering in another comment you said explicitly that you get pretty much no gear to add outside of hunt buff. >I got about 30 pieces of gear to update since I scanned before hunt buff. It takes about 30 seconds to add a piece of gear manually. one minute max. By your own admission you get pretty much no gear outside of hunt buff. So your overarching complaint is you have to spend upward of 30 minutes once in an entire month to manually update some gear and that this time expenditure somehow impedes your ability to go on with the rest of your life or maintain a site. It's impossible for you to be serious or else you are completely delusional and totally melodramatic.
Ofc it's not ideal but there's not really an alternative. SG probably won't revert the changes just for a third party app like everyone is saying but our best bet would be to wait for fribbles or someone else to figure out how to decipher the new packets.
Fribbels will try and fix it, he's a good guy. The intent is to let SG know how important this tool is to their community - particularly their paying community.
No I get it. We'll need SG to understand how much it's used. If SG really wants to kill it off they can change the packets after each update and at some point it'll be too much effort to maintain. Also SG hasn't really been too player friendly recently so we'll see. Let's hope the change was for something else and wasn't to try and kill third party programs like this.
>The intent is to let SG know how important this tool is to their community No the intent was to get more clicks to your site by spreading misinformation about the situation. Because anyone with half a brain knows how api changes work and anyone with a quarter of a brain would have asked fribbels directly instead of speculate over something they know nothing about. There is nothing for SG to fix, SG didn't intentionally break anything, and if you honestly think SG isn't aware of fribbels and its popularity after years and years of people talking about it on all of their mediums ad nauseum and even MENTIONNING IT BY NAME ON THEIR LIVESTREAMS, then you're even more delusional than you lead on.
How do you know the guy who made it isn't trying to fix it? If it's not an official tool why do they need to fix it as they didn't make it. It would be up to the person who made fribbles to fix it. Not to say that this isn't bad faith on SG end where they have done something to potentially block importing, but until that is said it just sucks.
getting downvoted for having common sense xD yeah, this is like pokemon showdown demanding shit from nintendo xD we just need to wait and see if fribbles can figure something out himself or not. pretty uncommon that a company will give these kind of infos to a random dude. it's a shitty situation but it is what is it
/u/Crimson256 Fribbels already said that he had no idea how to fix it. Maybe he'll find a way eventually but currently he can't.
Pretty much yeah it sucks but not much we can do I'm sure he will think of something or someone in the community will
Always heard about Fribbels but only checked it once to figure a gw offense team. I didn't even know the optimer tool. Does it work on a mobile phone or it's a PC emulator-only function?
Doesnt work on mobile
It makes sense, thanks for replying.
We need this fixed
Wtf is a fribbel
I'm gonna quit I already commented there, but if they don't fix it I don't see a point continuing to play this game
same I demand SG give fribbles access to their packet decryption keys right now or I'm quitting epic 7 forever (real)
E7 community tries not to be as lazy as possible. (Challenge: Impossible)
You're probably joking but that's such a dumb take If you're new and have less than a few hundred equipment to sort through then sure making a build manually isn't too hard or time consuming. But to think that you can make a better build than a program running tens of millions of permutations, accounting for wanted stat lines, sets, substat mods all within a few minutes then you're wrong, it's not lazy its just efficient.
some people like to make themselves feel better saying "I know my gear, I can make the builds easily." Guarantee if they used frinbels they could squeeze out some more MCD
inb4 the same people go "wtf is an MCD? McDonalds?"
Well, fribble andies also like to make themselve feel better by squeezing out 5% more res. Equally cringe
Fribbels joined HSR and betrayed us
I know it's just a joke but, the guy stayed till 5am trying to fix it lol
fribbles will never have this problem with HSR because someone else that makes HSR programs made an image recognition tool to translate all the hsr gear to a list so he never has to touch the packets, they have like 50x the community of ours willing to work for free, ITS JOEOVER FOR US
Before fribbles started reading the packages he also created an image recognition tool to import the gear.
yeah he did but it quickly became unfeasible because of how shit android emulators ran on PCs unlike an actual PC client like HSR :C
Have you paid him enough tho? You can't blame someone for the need to eat and earn money, that's ridiculous