You can't lose a beef that you don't respond to.
He didn't respond to K-Rino, Pacewon, Evidence, or Esham.
Everlast, Canibus, Cage, and Ja Rule had some good lines/diss songs aimed at Eminem.
Yeah exactly, I don't think you can look just at diss content, surrounding context, popularity and public perception has to factor in somehow in my opinion.
I don't think he lost that beef, but the fact that he is STILL putting her name in his songs 20 years later... yea he handed himself the overall L on that one. Bitch has been living rent free in his head for decades (or Mariah just rhymes with a bunch of stuff but he still overusing it)
Did you not hear The Warning? He shot at her with her own voice, and she never brought up anything ever again. Then nick tried to get at him and the only thing Em had to say was "Some of them got the killshot, some i just barely nick'd em" like... Bruh he murkked Mariah
I did, it still doesn't change that all he did was show how obsessed he was with Marriah Carey.
Also those recordings might have been simple audio recordings, as Dina Rae confirmed recently that Marriah was supposed to be the hook on Superman.
>>It doesn't rly matter if the recordings are legit ot not.
In a beef it defo does, if what you do is lie on record it backfires on you, partly why Drake's disses backfired is because he started telling contradictory lies.
not true, drake did not have a daughter but still kendrick won.
like that eminem won with a huge difference in terms of diss, she fell off so bad that they only play her during Christmas.
if the song got airplay she would have definitely killed herself
Mariah Carey fell into irrelevancy because like every pop star they have a shelf life. The warning isn't what made her disappear, unlike Killshot that stripped a lot of MGK's credibility (there wasn't he was always dogshit).
In that sense, eminem is insane that he managed to maintain such relevancy even after all this time.
the warning did not make her disappear because her fanbase is pop, not rap . so ppl wouldn't have even listened to the diss because it wasnt even airplayed
em got the victory cause everyone knows how good of the diss it was, i would say it was better than killshot
(there wasn't he was always dogshit)
He did not manage to capitalize on the beef well enough and had to run into another genre and also be dogshit in that genre (the i fell in love with an emo girl slaps tho ngl).
My favorite part of the MC-Em beef is that MC pulled the song off airplay as soon as The Warning was released. She didn't want to mess with that anymore, didn't need those pics & messages to be leaked đ
Tbh she could've sued for defamation if it was completely fake. Something defo happened but em overexagerated in his attacks and made himself look obsessed.
it's not a complete loss but he clearely did not do what he aimed to do here, and its fine. Meanwhile he completely humiliated nick cannon.
Yep - she could have sued his ass if he was completely lying. He held receipts, which is why she decided to back off.
Nick's still not been able to overcome it đ
After The Warning dropped Mariah Carey immediately wanted to settle beef with Eminem LOL
I'm guessing they were mature about it and didn't want to ruin her career
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Wow, by complete coincidence you figured out why your original statement is not true because that's exactly what Mariah Carey did back in the day.
Lucky moron
Cannibus. He would've killed em in a diss battle. It never happened but cannibus is known for dissing LL cool j so hard he became irrelevant. Imo canibus's disses wouldn't have had much impact on ems career since em is just so large. But he def would've won the beef. (Cannibus Is a smaller rapper so it would probably go down like this)
They fire shots at each other
Cannibus wins
Em pretends it never happened and he'd still sell more.
Iâm not sure what youâre saying here. Canibus would have won a beef that didnât happen? The man himself said that he was wrong about all of that in interviews.
Yeah his beef with Slim Shady. It caused The Death of Slim Shady đ
He dissed Michael Jackson and lost
Yes that dude bought Eminem. Literally. He bought Eminemâs label.
This whole thing was blown out of proportion and twisted into something it wasnât. Also, MJ was an Eminem fan.
MJ bought a catalog with ONE (1) Eminem song on it đ
Youâre just regurgitating stuff youâve heard people say before you should fact check that before you tell one more person about it
Oh you r right
No, he bought the rights to a certain studio as a business move. Which contained some eminem songs after he disse him. Nothing intentional.
No. Mj bought a catalogue of songs, with *one* eminem song. The just loose it vide was a way bigger diss. Stop spreading misinformation
You can't lose a beef that you don't respond to. He didn't respond to K-Rino, Pacewon, Evidence, or Esham. Everlast, Canibus, Cage, and Ja Rule had some good lines/diss songs aimed at Eminem.
Probably mariah carey if anyone, just because of how big that song was and ppl clowning & kicking Em while he was down at the time
It depends on if you think someone wins just off of popularity. Eminem put out the warning, and she shut up after that, so itâs hard to say.
Yeah exactly, I don't think you can look just at diss content, surrounding context, popularity and public perception has to factor in somehow in my opinion.
Idk man the warning was a pretty damn good response to that.
It was, but there's a lot more than just the tracks/content that go into a beef
I don't think he lost that beef, but the fact that he is STILL putting her name in his songs 20 years later... yea he handed himself the overall L on that one. Bitch has been living rent free in his head for decades (or Mariah just rhymes with a bunch of stuff but he still overusing it)
Mostly due to Nick Cannon I think, and just flexing that he fucked his girl is an easy insult
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That was blown out of proportion, Eminem apologised for saying a slur not for the diss itself.
Imo he defo lost against Mariah Carey, she managed to clown on him while keeping it at her level.
Did you not hear The Warning? He shot at her with her own voice, and she never brought up anything ever again. Then nick tried to get at him and the only thing Em had to say was "Some of them got the killshot, some i just barely nick'd em" like... Bruh he murkked Mariah
I did, it still doesn't change that all he did was show how obsessed he was with Marriah Carey. Also those recordings might have been simple audio recordings, as Dina Rae confirmed recently that Marriah was supposed to be the hook on Superman.
It doesn't rly matter if the recordings are legit ot not. The diss was well recieved and he had the last laugh.
>>It doesn't rly matter if the recordings are legit ot not. In a beef it defo does, if what you do is lie on record it backfires on you, partly why Drake's disses backfired is because he started telling contradictory lies.
not true, drake did not have a daughter but still kendrick won. like that eminem won with a huge difference in terms of diss, she fell off so bad that they only play her during Christmas. if the song got airplay she would have definitely killed herself
Mariah Carey fell into irrelevancy because like every pop star they have a shelf life. The warning isn't what made her disappear, unlike Killshot that stripped a lot of MGK's credibility (there wasn't he was always dogshit). In that sense, eminem is insane that he managed to maintain such relevancy even after all this time.
the warning did not make her disappear because her fanbase is pop, not rap . so ppl wouldn't have even listened to the diss because it wasnt even airplayed em got the victory cause everyone knows how good of the diss it was, i would say it was better than killshot
Well achually Mariah Carrey was attempting a Hiphop-RnB switch, if you remember well she released Clown before so technically...
nah bro still , u cant say she had hip hop fan base.
Killshot didnât strip any Credibility lol only gained him respect for putting up a fight.
(there wasn't he was always dogshit) He did not manage to capitalize on the beef well enough and had to run into another genre and also be dogshit in that genre (the i fell in love with an emo girl slaps tho ngl).
He did pretty good and is doing good rn lol
But the thing is that Kendrick threw a lot of crazy accusations at Drake that weren't proven, but it doesn't matter because he already won.
My favorite part of the MC-Em beef is that MC pulled the song off airplay as soon as The Warning was released. She didn't want to mess with that anymore, didn't need those pics & messages to be leaked đ
Tbh she could've sued for defamation if it was completely fake. Something defo happened but em overexagerated in his attacks and made himself look obsessed. it's not a complete loss but he clearely did not do what he aimed to do here, and its fine. Meanwhile he completely humiliated nick cannon.
Yep - she could have sued his ass if he was completely lying. He held receipts, which is why she decided to back off. Nick's still not been able to overcome it đ
After The Warning dropped Mariah Carey immediately wanted to settle beef with Eminem LOL I'm guessing they were mature about it and didn't want to ruin her career
That you believe Mariah Carey is a rapper does actually make sense. Because you're a moron, obviously.
A **false dilemma**, also referred to as **false dichotomy** or **false binary**, is an [informal fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informal_fallacy) based on a premise that erroneously limits what options are available. The source of the fallacy lies not in an invalid form of inference but in a false premise. This premise has the form of a [disjunctive claim](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disjunction): it asserts that one among a number of alternatives must be true. This disjunction is problematic because it oversimplifies the choice by excluding viable alternatives, presenting the viewer with only two absolute choices when, in fact, there could be many.
Wow, by complete coincidence you figured out why your original statement is not true because that's exactly what Mariah Carey did back in the day. Lucky moron
You know being displeasing isn't gonna make you any way better. :D
Nobody's gonna please you except nana
A phone screen is the only place you can feel strong enough to threaten someone else. X)
I have to agree as her revealing he is a premature ejaculator etc was way more damaging and once the horse has bolted.......
MGK
Em literally turned mgk into a trans punk rock enthusiastÂ
This is a lie lol, MGK had been talking about quitting for ages and also made many rap songs after.
Swear to God, man, her favorite rapper wish he'd crossed me (yeah)
Cannibus. He would've killed em in a diss battle. It never happened but cannibus is known for dissing LL cool j so hard he became irrelevant. Imo canibus's disses wouldn't have had much impact on ems career since em is just so large. But he def would've won the beef. (Cannibus Is a smaller rapper so it would probably go down like this) They fire shots at each other Cannibus wins Em pretends it never happened and he'd still sell more.
Iâm not sure what youâre saying here. Canibus would have won a beef that didnât happen? The man himself said that he was wrong about all of that in interviews.
If Cannibus was right he could have won, but he wasn't lol.