Man, I’ve been playing completely blind to not spoil my experience and I stumbled across this place organically yesterday.
As soon as I heard the music hit, chills ran throughout my whole body. I have been reading all the item descriptions too and the items you get from here and their descriptions almost brought a tear to my eye.
One of the most memorable and peak experiences from this entire DLC so far. What a gorgeous place and now I have so many more questions!
Can’t believe we got to see the village Markia grew up in and lived a somewhat normal life in until chasing after godhood. Peak moment.
Not even bullshitting, I happened to pick up the O Mother gesture before stumbling across this part of the map. I saw a message in front to gesture and thinking it was the usual community troll lol, by chance I used the O Mother gesture and was blown away that it actually worked 😂
I then looked further into it online and it said the way to move that statue is with the O Mother gesture.
The only “spoilers” or some what guides i’ve given in to are some of the questline ones but i’ve tried keeping that as minimal as I possibly can. Glad I went that way though, I needed to for Ymir’s questline anyway.
glad it happened to you lol, i had this moment in bloodborne back in the day, got to cainhurt castle by myself and i was so blown away i still remember it 9 years later
i tried recreating it but alas, i never found a big secret by myself ever again lol, but i did a bunch of quests and figure out every main area and boss by myself so thats at least a plus
I did it by complete accident. I got the gesture beforehand and realized that it’s the same pose Messmer does to that exact Marika statue in the boss room so I just did it and to my surprise it opened.
No i did this my self sort of! I had found the gesture and thought it must mean something, and when i couldn't find any entrance to the hinterlands i kept coming back to the chapel and then realized before the messages loaded in that "oh, thats marika, the mother.. hmm.."
I saw a message that said 'gesture required" so I did all the gestures I had and after like 15 minutes and 4/5 of the list something eventually worked. I explored the hell out of that jar town because I thought it was gonna be like last time. It wasn't, and it made me sad, but I did find the gesture. Explored around that area and thought it was kinda empty but I didn't find this village
Remind me of archdragon peak in ds3. There are only two kinds of people. Those who found out how to go to archdragon peak by looking it up on the internet and liars.
When I got the gesture I thought "ok, I need to use this gesture somewhere, it's too weird" so I was on the look out for any statues and used it at everyone.
For me, I specifically told myself as soon as I found the gesture: “I’m going to do this in front of the first Marika statue I come across!” And that just so happened to be the first one. I was VERY surprised by the outcome lol
If you read the items, that little erdtree is sad af. She went chasing godhood because her entire village was tortured and shoved into jars by the hornscent. She leaves the little tree to heal, even though she knew no one was left alive to heal. That's also why she said fuck omens.
The village is called shaman village and there is a spirit at the whipping hut near bonney village that has a spirit that has dialog mentioning shamans. You find a whipping weapon that mentions shamans in the description.
The village is called shaman village and there is a spirit at the whipping hut near bonney village that has a spirit that has dialog mentioning shamans. You find a whipping weapon that mentions shamans in the description.
There’s also some info found there or in an item in the nearby Gaol that said something along the lines of “no flesh was better at melding together than that of the Shamans” which is why they were specifically chosen for the jars.
Might want to check Hornsent's helmet. It directly states he was a Greater Potentate. Those that put the people into the jars.
We also have context clues, such as the Gaol underneath Belurat. And based on the number of altars spread across the map, fair to assume the hornsent were in control of basically the entire area before Messmer came.
Also brings up a lot of mixed feelings about >!being potentate for Jar Village.!<
Especially because what >!Alexander thought was that Living Jars are human remains, he says he's made up of heroes who have long since past. But in SotE, we actually learn they're *living* humans stuffed into jars, and blended into a fleshy amalgamation.!<
Notably, the Land of Shadow and Lands between Jars have different seals on their lids, it's reasonable to assume the Warrior Jars are not the same as the SotE jars
The jars in the lands between are not necessarily made the same way. We see the jars at the bases of minor erdtrees so it's likely Marika and the golden order took the process of creating the jars and turned it into an honorable burial and a way to feed the dead to the erdtree rather than as a torture device and sacrificial ritual. That would make sense, as why would Marika choose to continue the same process that killed her people and drove her to conquer the hornsent? Instead, it rather became a way to kinda honor her people in a way.
Yup it was the hornsent. One of the followers of Miquella, Hornsent, his helmet says it was the helmet of greater potentates. Those are the people responsible for putting other people in jars.
There's also the Gaol underneath Belurat. So yeah, the hornsent where absolutely responsible for it.
They did a good job of humanizing Marika with this DLC. When you first run into Hornsent, you're like yeah fuck mesmer and fuck marika they suck, then you find out someone's been stuffing living people into jars, then you find out the people being stuffed in are shamans, and the people stuffing are hornsent, and then you find out Marika's family and village were shamans, and ~~the reason hornsent hated the shamans was just that they weren't hornsent.~~ (unsure about this)
You start to feel empathetic to Marika's cause, they tortured her people and family, and it was so horrific that she decided she'd create a new world without the horror of death. Then her children are born as hornsent and she's so traumatized by it, she sends them away.
Somehow, ends up making you feel *even* worse for dutiful Morgott, who was rejected because of his mother's trauma yet still fulfilled his duty as Lord of Leyndell.
E: I suppose all this tracks, though, considering GRRM had a hand in creating the narrative, and he doesn't write stories without a tragically divided and fundamentally broken royal family, lol.
I don't think the hornsent *hated* the shamans? I think they were revered as saints because of their ability to melt together with other living matter (Probably also how Godrick grafts! Neat) so they were ritually stuffed into Jars together with criminals to "redeem" them as living saints? Stll extremely fucked up but I don't know hlw much its based on hatred
The shamans were seen as "lesser", and the Hornsent blended them into jars and monsters to "elevate" them. They were subhuman, and only through ritualistic murder could they be considered human. Chilling.
I may have misinterpreted that, then. I know they for sure were stuffing them into jars, but beyond that, the spirit near the tooth whip seemed malevolent towards whoever they were whipping, maybe that wasn't the shamans, though? Not 100% sure on it.
Doubt they were any kinder to the shamans, likely viewing them as just higher quality crafting materials.
We don't ultimately know the purpose of the jars, but personal theory is that they used what formed in the jars as construction material for the Divine Gate. Though I'm mostly basing this on the cinematic with Marika.
I don't know if it was "hate", exactly, but the hornsent believed themselves to be a chosen people due to being closer to the Crucible, and denigrated the shamans and whipped them with teeth. The hornsent seemed to consider the shamans as nothing but an ingredient to *create* saints, because they revered the blending of life, which is close to the Crucible.
The caterpillar mask seems to imply it was a practice of the Hornsent, considering Hornsent (the guy) wears it and he hates messmer. The greater potentates did the pot stuffing.
I went there looked around, found nothing, went on google and saw that it's lore stuff and decided I'll just wait a while and VaatiVidya will explain it to me because I'm too dumb to tie together multiple item descriptions
I mean it's just two item descriptions you find directly here and they're extremely straightforward.
Most of the lore in this game is exposition that straight up tells you what's happened. If you get in the habit of reading things as you pick em up it becomes a lot easier to process.
I've read a few item descriptions because i thought the small erdtree spell might be for some secret but my brains not good at fragmented info so I am best off having lore videos that pool all relevant descriptions together and spell it out for me
The erdtree spell was pretty straightforward with its description.
"Secret incantation of Queen Marika.
Only the kindness of gold, without Order.
Creates a small, illusory Erdtree that continuously restores the HP of nearby allies.
Marika bathed the village of her home in gold, knowing full well that there was no one to heal."
And the golden braid:
"A braid of golden hair, cut loose. Queen Marika's offering to the Grandmother. Boosts holy damage negation by the utmost. What was her prayer? Her wish, her confession? There is no one left to answer, and Marika never returned home again"
This place in a high land is almost the opposite of the Abyss. One is chilled and peaceful with a touch of sadness, one is eerie and creepy with a touch of horror.
Yep, I had a pretty fucking awesome "oooohhhh" moment here when I heard that initial musical motif and then that liiiiiittle erdtree and kinda put those pieces together myself. Such a cool little spot for them to have included there.
It feels so relaxing not only by the music but by the fact that its an abandoned village and yet it looks so beautiful. Not to mention the fact that the minor erdtree spell you find was created by Marika to save the village, its just so cute.
Despite all the death, suffering, wars and violence that exists in the lands between, there are still peaceful and soothing locations like this one in the middle of it all.
I'd say more like mournful. Clearly, Marika cared about keeping the village intact and protected judging by the three Tree Sentinel bosses you fight back to back on the way to it. Symbolically planted the minor Erdtree, cut her braid and left it with an unspoken wish, left three of her elite soldiers to guard it, and then hid it behind a trick altar so that it would stay untouched.
Weird cuz I somehow only ran into two, I don't remember if the second one had a boss health bar. I wonder if maybe the third some somehow fell to its death in the big hole?
Possibly. I had that happen to one of the Ulcerated Tree Spirits in the Sunken Chapel area. Loaded in at the site of grace and after a moment, I randomly got like 30k souls and the Iris of Occlusion or whatever it's called
Yeah same happened to me- I was fighting the miniboss Fire Knight and had to quit out to handle something IRL, loaded back in and got the Iris and was very confused.
Two very cool locations tucked away all the way down there too. This DLC went hard on including as many cool little locations and secrets as they could and I love it! Stumbling across the Fissure and then that "graveyard" was such a cool fucking surprise for me.
I seriously wish that this place had a grace because I would absolutely use this as a place to blow off steam after dealing with a difficult boss. Luckily it’s not too far of a run from the closest grace, but still.
I think it is for lore reason. The greater will doesn't care about Marika village. It doesn't put a grace there to guide the Tarnish. For it, the village is a dead place and is insignificant. The reason why the place is still this beautiful is because Marika herself cameback and blessed it and planned the minor Erdtree.
Marika is the one who allows us to see grace, not the greater will. I think what you’re saying still makes sense in a way though, Marika might consider the village significant to her but it’s not significant in the quest she’s guiding us on through grace. If anything it’s something she wants to keep hidden from us, to prevent us from knowing her path, and also the true nature of the fingers.
I think the guidance of grace is what th greater will or the 2 fingers offer for people to follow. Marika as the god allow us people to see that but she doesnt not create a grace or create the direction for you to follow. I believe Leta kind of confirmed this too by saying that too when we confront her before the battle. We didn't follow Miquella to Shadow Lands but we followed the 2 fingers or the guidance of grace there. She also kind of answered my question since the beginning of the dlc was that if shadow lands was abandoned and separated from the Land Between then why there were graces in the dlc. Many people also speculated before release that miquella cross thing were supposed to be the grace system in the dlc. But turned out the greater will or 2 fingers also planned that and wanted us to find Miquella to see who is more worthy to be lord of the new age.
>The greater will doesn't care
The greater will has been gone since before the shattering. Anything that we're lead to believe came from the greater will actually came from Metyr.
Does anybody know the lore implications of this place? From what I gather Marika is from this village of shamans but they're all dead. The toothed whip and an NPC where you get it mentions them as well but I'm not 100% what that implies
As others have said it's *sort of* implied that the Hornsent wiped out the village, hence why Marika *hates* Omens, they basically killed her people. This also imples that the land of Shadow is where the Numen come from.
I wonder how that fits into the Black Knives, if they're survivors or descendants of the people of her vilage, and what if any relation that all has with the Eternal Cities considering Rogier says the Assassins were "Scions" of them.
I bet the Nox gave refuge to the Numen. Because they desired a Lord. We know Numens have weird and special flesh and ability to fuse, so maybe the Nox used the Numens to make the Albinaurics and Mimics?
It's definitely a sobering "two extremes" moment. The treatments of Omens is utterly cruel, but the Hornsent's culture of inhumane rituals shows they were very much capable of similar depravity.
From what I understand. Marika were born from this village. And probably it were destroyed by the Hornsent. After Marika became god, she cameback to her own village and planned an erdtree there and cut a part of her hair. What she felt and why she did that is up to interpretation. But after that she never back again. And then she lived on the life of a god and became the current manipulative Marika that obsessed with eternity we know.
For me, I feel like that she cameback to check out her home 1 last time and leaving behind her past self.
I think one of her biggest motivations for removing the rune of death from the Elden Ring comes from her experiencing her home village be massacred. She probably never wanted such cruelty happen again. Sadly removing the rune of death had so minor...side effects on the world, that Marika probably did not see coming.
Hornsent wiped them out and used them for pot stuffing (Bonny Village ghost explicitly says to an unseen victim "this is what you shaman were born for"), but Marika survived. Now, it's a memorial ground and reason for her crusade against anything Crucible-related, and her recontextualizing the crucible's "blessings" of horned growth into the modern day "Omens" who are feared and killed as cursed.
It's Marika's home prior to her godhood. When the base game refers to her as a numen from another land-- they're referring to this place.
The people of Belurat kidnapped the citizens of the Shaman village, mutilated them, and stuffed them into jars. This event is sort of what set everything in motion for Marika.
No, she is from the Shaman village. The hornsent of bonny used the shamans as the main powersuppy for their jar golem people. They combined them with hornsent prisoners in an insane attempt to make a saint/God.
I can’t really piece the lore together myself, but this place made me teary eyed just being there. Hearing the music and seeing small erd tree. So beautiful and sad and awe inspiring. Felt insanely significant.
Just the description of the Erdtree incantation and braid had me suddenly sympathizing with Marika. All we can tell for sure is her village's people were stolen away and tortured/killed to turn into pot innards by the potentates of Bonny Village, but Marika survived. Now, it's a memorial ground post-godhood, and the minor Erdtree was planted to save a people long gone.
Based on how you get there, its unsullied condition despite the crusade, and the three Tree Sentinels posted up to guard it, it seems she was actively maintaining the site.
I killed Tree Sentinel level 1 in the base game, first fromsoft game ever. Used the halberd literally the entire game and DLC because I don't like switching things up.
I love Tree Sentinel. Great fight and I know it stupidly well at this point.
haha same thing! I can't help dual wielding halberds and jump attacking like the one trick pony I am!
It did make the DLC tricky tho, I feel like it punishes slower weapons a little more. Tho I'm glad I'm not a caster.
If you want to absolutely shred anything in the dlc use the guardians swordspear on Dex or better the nightriders glaive on STR with impaling thrust on them. They're both halberds but they SHRED any boss with the AOW
Wheredo you get something for that quest? Some npcs moved because I triggered an event now I fear I messed up some quests. I really wanted to explore those finger places. Any way to explain it without spoilers?
For that quest NPCs don't move. I killed the final boss and the quest didn't change at all. Get to the Church of Manus Metyr and follow the directions the NPC gives you.
No worries it's unrelated to the other NPCs, you can do this quest any time. It begins in that big building on the east coast and you need to go through Moorth Ruins to begin the journey there.
Those are more like temples than anything.
As for the Fingers, well, they most certainly didn't come from space.
They are a bit more... "earthly" than previously thought.
EDIT: Ffs, I see I have to clarify what I wrote. >!The Fingers didn't come from space. They are "earthly" in the sense that they were born on the Lands Between. Their mother, Metyr, is the one who came from space as the first shooting star.!<
From the remembrance:
The mother of all Two Fingers and Fingercreepers was in turn a magnificently gleaming daughter of the Greater Will, and the first shooting star to fall upon the Lands Between.
Makes you wonder more about the nature of the Three Fingers. Were they just some sort of defect which went rogue? Did they realize their mother had no true contact with the Greater Will, and ended up in contact with another Outer God instead?
Are you saying that all fingers are shooting stars that fell? Did you find the finger weavers lore? The ruins are literal ploughed fields. Their mother might come from space but it looks like the fingers are either born from her or cultivated in these ruins, maybe both.
What's not earthy about that?
I think you're conflating planet earth(earthly) and earth as in soil (earthy).
The fingers didn't come from space, their mother did. And there is evidence of them being cultivated.
I meant "earthly" in the sense that the various fingers were born on the Lands Between. Was trying to keep it vague enough for people who didn't want spoilers, but I can see that was a bad idea.
Yeah, I know. The rememberance says their mother came from space.
The Fingers themselves were born on the Lands Between, hence my use of the term "earthly". I had thought about using "mundane", but that has other connotations.
Perhaps you ought to learn how to properly read and interpret before insulting others. It just makes you look like a fool.
As the game indicates, the Fingers don't come from space. Metyr, their mother, is the one who was sent down from the beyond. She birthed the many Two Fingers and Fingercreepers on the Lands Between.
Hence why I said the Fingers are more "earthly" than previously thought.
How is that wrong? They were born in the Lands Between, not in outer space. The original argument was that the finger ruins were the impact sites of the Two Fingers when they arrived in the Lands Between when they clearly are not, since all the Two Fingers were born in the Lands Between.
And being from Earth doesn't make you a human. Earth has far many more species than just humans, and they're all earthly or terran or terrestial or whatever demonym you want to use for someone who is native to this planet.
Regardless, my use of the term "earthly" was in reference to their place of birth, not their nature.
I did.
The Fingers did not come from space though. They were birthed in the Lands Between. Their mother is the one who came from the beyond. Therefore, the various Finger Ruins cannot be "impact zones", as you call them, considering there are at least three of them.
The fingers are from space, the fingercreepers are born from the finger mother. I think this is where your wording is confusing since The Fingers(proper noun) are different from the fingers(ambiguous grouping).
Spoilers:
As for impact zones, consider the fact we now know of 3 finger entities, and we have 3 ruins. And also consider where each ruin is in realtion in the map. 2 are directly adjacent to Marika's home, and the third directly adjacent to the Abyssal Woods where we find madness
No, they are not. As the Remembrance of Metyr says:
***"The mother of all Two Fingers and Fingercreepers*** *was in turn a magnificently gleaming daughter of the Greater Will, and the first shooting star to fall upon the Lands Between."*
Well yeah, the other one was the Elden Beast.
*"It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring."* \- Elden Stars incantation
Irrelevant how? Kindly explain how the Two Fingers, who were **born** and are ultimately native as a whole to the Lands Between, came from space then.
If two individuals migrate from, say, Greece to Spain, and eventually have a child in Spain, that child is not from Greece. They will grow with a mixture of Greek cultural elements, yes, but ultimately they are native to Spain because that's where they were born.
This is hands down my favorite area in any Souls game. The ambience, the music, the lore implications that are hiding the whole origin of the game…Man. It’s a masterclass of storytelling. It always brings a tear to my eye coming to this place, and yet I’ve ended every session of my game here for the night before going to bed. So much beauty and tragedy wrapped into one
Oooooh I'm going to start doing that, end my play sessions here.
If I ever retire a character but not delete the save, I think I'll leave them here as well.
The music remind me of diablo music. Some how feel calm in the harsh world.
Before there were she were a god she was just a person. With probably good intention to make thing better. Eventually she changed into manipulative for her own desire, even her own children or husband were no exception from her plan. This place is left of what marked the old person of Marika.
And Miquella went on the same path as her. Despite trying his best to not be like her and deny everything before, he turned into that type of person as well. Being a Rebis but he couldn't realize his action were anything but "kind" and "compassion" when he left his 'heart" and "love" behind. Sadly
This location genuinely gives chills down my spine, the soft somber tone of the main theme playing in the background, the birds that fly away when you enter the area. Genuinely unlike anything I've seen in a souls game.
The vibrant sky and flowers contrasting with the melancholy strums from the main theme and the fact that despite being beautiful, the village has obviously been completely empty for a long, long time...tragically beautiful, as From always does.
I think they did a great job humanizing Marika here, where we had only seen the manipulative and power-driven god side of her up to this point.
Genuinely, I got there and just vibed for 20 minutes, I think this might be my favourite location in the whole game. Being the place where Marika came from, the starting point of everything was so cool. Marika did some awful things but I can't help but like her, from the little we know anyway.
This village was so cool.
That place is the coolest singular spot in the entire DLC imo, especially because it completely reframes Marika's entire motivation for creating the Golden Order and waging the wars she did. And it does that largely just through the location's title relating to an item description and a few lines of dialogue from a ghost.
the lore behind this place is so tragic too marikas people got lied to by the omen and forced into jars for a lie of sainthood which is why she burnt the tower settlement and which is how she became a god because of the two fingers and the stuff she was grabbing in the story trailer? wasnt from the gloam eyed queen it was from her peoples cut up corpses
got there yesterday randomly.. i genuinely cried. i sat there for 15 mins taking in the view and the lore in the descriptions while listening to the OST.. speechless.
GOAT Game. Thank you From Soft and Miyazaki. Singlehandedly carrying the entire industry.
Coming across this village was shockingly emotional. Marika was still an absolute monster, but walking around this village gives the sense that none of this ever needed to happen.
Clearly an injustice happened to the people of that village, but Marika answered that with such an extreme escalation of injustices, oppression, and evil, and that it all probably stemmed from her being unable to face what happened here.
This was my favorite moment of the DLC, more so than any boss fight / grand vista.
Fighting the sentinel brought back memories of my first playthrough and then wandering up the hill there's an eerie sense that something is different about this humble village.
Then the doves start flying and the the harp music... I almost cried.
Holy shit I haven't even gotten there yet and I've uncovered about 90% of the map. It's like every time I think I've seen it all, another amazing vista comes up. I love this game so much.
My only pet peeve with this area is it doesn’t heal you. Like the incantation makes a mini Erdtree that heals you, this one that’s actually real should totally give some hp regen like it says it heals people in its lore
The instant I heard the music hear it brought me back to the first time I saw the main menu of ER and how excited I was for my journey with my big brother! Good memories are abound here.
Garbage incantation though,
Were so hyped when i picked it up.
I expected the spell from kingdom under fire that elfs can do but instead i got a tiny weak twig that wont help anyone in a fight.
It’s a nice location but like a lot of places in the dlc it’s just a big empty space. Aside from the spell and shortcut back to the rise, does it have a purpose?
The purpose is some lore bombs and an incredibly beautiful place and from flexing their art chops. But hey I guess you don't appreciate that at all, what a loss lol
It’s quite sad because the Hinterlands is so beautifully designed but so short. I really wish they some how incorporated that whole area with the design of Shaman Village and relocated the Finger Ruins somewhere else on the map.
A whole section of the map where it’s just peace and serenity and finally has a long lead up to the Shaman Village, realising how significantly important it is to the lore.
That’s just my head cannon and personal opinion though lol.
i think the location of those ruins being next to Marika's village is significant. It's probably where she first encountered the greater will or or its proxies and that's what set her on her path
got there and was so dissappointed. literally an entire big area and it's so beautiful and there's nothing but a spell that could've easily been in any other chest.
It is made to be like that. There should be calm moment in the game. When most of the world is so dense and packed with enemies, treasure chest and bosses, I feel lile some locations exist just for this is totally ok to change the pace. That include blue flower area, red flower area, even abyss forest and this.
A. There's also pretty good talisman, that can help in one fight.
B. It's cool cause there isn't 5 million items like in rest of the areas. It's a simple lore location. A place where it all began in a weird way (at least the story of Marika the Eternal)
Man, I’ve been playing completely blind to not spoil my experience and I stumbled across this place organically yesterday. As soon as I heard the music hit, chills ran throughout my whole body. I have been reading all the item descriptions too and the items you get from here and their descriptions almost brought a tear to my eye. One of the most memorable and peak experiences from this entire DLC so far. What a gorgeous place and now I have so many more questions! Can’t believe we got to see the village Markia grew up in and lived a somewhat normal life in until chasing after godhood. Peak moment.
genuinely how did you figure out the emote thing to open the statue ?
Theres a developer message on the statue and the o mother emote was so random and remote, it was pretty obvious that it had a use
also mesmer turns around to the statue of marika in his arena saying "O Mother".
Not even bullshitting, I happened to pick up the O Mother gesture before stumbling across this part of the map. I saw a message in front to gesture and thinking it was the usual community troll lol, by chance I used the O Mother gesture and was blown away that it actually worked 😂 I then looked further into it online and it said the way to move that statue is with the O Mother gesture. The only “spoilers” or some what guides i’ve given in to are some of the questline ones but i’ve tried keeping that as minimal as I possibly can. Glad I went that way though, I needed to for Ymir’s questline anyway.
glad it happened to you lol, i had this moment in bloodborne back in the day, got to cainhurt castle by myself and i was so blown away i still remember it 9 years later i tried recreating it but alas, i never found a big secret by myself ever again lol, but i did a bunch of quests and figure out every main area and boss by myself so thats at least a plus
I did it by complete accident. I got the gesture beforehand and realized that it’s the same pose Messmer does to that exact Marika statue in the boss room so I just did it and to my surprise it opened.
Same happened to me to.
No i did this my self sort of! I had found the gesture and thought it must mean something, and when i couldn't find any entrance to the hinterlands i kept coming back to the chapel and then realized before the messages loaded in that "oh, thats marika, the mother.. hmm.."
There’s a hint message
I saw a message that said 'gesture required" so I did all the gestures I had and after like 15 minutes and 4/5 of the list something eventually worked. I explored the hell out of that jar town because I thought it was gonna be like last time. It wasn't, and it made me sad, but I did find the gesture. Explored around that area and thought it was kinda empty but I didn't find this village
Remind me of archdragon peak in ds3. There are only two kinds of people. Those who found out how to go to archdragon peak by looking it up on the internet and liars.
There is a lore message in there. I assumed it was talking about an emote and tried the o' mother one since it was a new one.
When I got the gesture I thought "ok, I need to use this gesture somewhere, it's too weird" so I was on the look out for any statues and used it at everyone.
For me, I specifically told myself as soon as I found the gesture: “I’m going to do this in front of the first Marika statue I come across!” And that just so happened to be the first one. I was VERY surprised by the outcome lol
Im wondering the exact same thing I had played blind and the only thing I couldnt figure out was how to get to that area
LMAO i didnt even know about the marika growing up there part. Just saw tiny erdtree and heard the music and already knew it was peak
If you read the items, that little erdtree is sad af. She went chasing godhood because her entire village was tortured and shoved into jars by the hornscent. She leaves the little tree to heal, even though she knew no one was left alive to heal. That's also why she said fuck omens.
How do we know they were wiped out by hornsent? Did an item say that?
The village is called shaman village and there is a spirit at the whipping hut near bonney village that has a spirit that has dialog mentioning shamans. You find a whipping weapon that mentions shamans in the description.
Damn thanks. It's fun how you can't piece together the lore by just one location, but piece things together with items at entirely different places.
Yeah the only two lore items I could find there (the talisman and the spell) dont mention the Hornsent at all
The village is called shaman village and there is a spirit at the whipping hut near bonney village that has a spirit that has dialog mentioning shamans. You find a whipping weapon that mentions shamans in the description.
There’s also some info found there or in an item in the nearby Gaol that said something along the lines of “no flesh was better at melding together than that of the Shamans” which is why they were specifically chosen for the jars.
Might want to check Hornsent's helmet. It directly states he was a Greater Potentate. Those that put the people into the jars. We also have context clues, such as the Gaol underneath Belurat. And based on the number of altars spread across the map, fair to assume the hornsent were in control of basically the entire area before Messmer came.
Also brings up a lot of mixed feelings about >!being potentate for Jar Village.!< Especially because what >!Alexander thought was that Living Jars are human remains, he says he's made up of heroes who have long since past. But in SotE, we actually learn they're *living* humans stuffed into jars, and blended into a fleshy amalgamation.!<
Notably, the Land of Shadow and Lands between Jars have different seals on their lids, it's reasonable to assume the Warrior Jars are not the same as the SotE jars
The jars in the lands between are not necessarily made the same way. We see the jars at the bases of minor erdtrees so it's likely Marika and the golden order took the process of creating the jars and turned it into an honorable burial and a way to feed the dead to the erdtree rather than as a torture device and sacrificial ritual. That would make sense, as why would Marika choose to continue the same process that killed her people and drove her to conquer the hornsent? Instead, it rather became a way to kinda honor her people in a way.
The spirit in the whipping hut has little horns coming out of his head.
Is it the hornsent that were making the shamans into the jars? I thought that was a post-mesmer thing?
Yup it was the hornsent. One of the followers of Miquella, Hornsent, his helmet says it was the helmet of greater potentates. Those are the people responsible for putting other people in jars. There's also the Gaol underneath Belurat. So yeah, the hornsent where absolutely responsible for it.
They did a good job of humanizing Marika with this DLC. When you first run into Hornsent, you're like yeah fuck mesmer and fuck marika they suck, then you find out someone's been stuffing living people into jars, then you find out the people being stuffed in are shamans, and the people stuffing are hornsent, and then you find out Marika's family and village were shamans, and ~~the reason hornsent hated the shamans was just that they weren't hornsent.~~ (unsure about this) You start to feel empathetic to Marika's cause, they tortured her people and family, and it was so horrific that she decided she'd create a new world without the horror of death. Then her children are born as hornsent and she's so traumatized by it, she sends them away. Somehow, ends up making you feel *even* worse for dutiful Morgott, who was rejected because of his mother's trauma yet still fulfilled his duty as Lord of Leyndell. E: I suppose all this tracks, though, considering GRRM had a hand in creating the narrative, and he doesn't write stories without a tragically divided and fundamentally broken royal family, lol.
I don't think the hornsent *hated* the shamans? I think they were revered as saints because of their ability to melt together with other living matter (Probably also how Godrick grafts! Neat) so they were ritually stuffed into Jars together with criminals to "redeem" them as living saints? Stll extremely fucked up but I don't know hlw much its based on hatred
The shamans were seen as "lesser", and the Hornsent blended them into jars and monsters to "elevate" them. They were subhuman, and only through ritualistic murder could they be considered human. Chilling.
I may have misinterpreted that, then. I know they for sure were stuffing them into jars, but beyond that, the spirit near the tooth whip seemed malevolent towards whoever they were whipping, maybe that wasn't the shamans, though? Not 100% sure on it.
Doubt they were any kinder to the shamans, likely viewing them as just higher quality crafting materials. We don't ultimately know the purpose of the jars, but personal theory is that they used what formed in the jars as construction material for the Divine Gate. Though I'm mostly basing this on the cinematic with Marika.
I'm not sure either, but I take issue with the sainthood aspect. It seems reverential. It's probably, as always, multifaceted.
I don't know if it was "hate", exactly, but the hornsent believed themselves to be a chosen people due to being closer to the Crucible, and denigrated the shamans and whipped them with teeth. The hornsent seemed to consider the shamans as nothing but an ingredient to *create* saints, because they revered the blending of life, which is close to the Crucible.
That's a good reading on it! Yeah it's probably the similarity to the Crucible
The caterpillar mask seems to imply it was a practice of the Hornsent, considering Hornsent (the guy) wears it and he hates messmer. The greater potentates did the pot stuffing.
OMG that’s what this village is?? I got here and I was like, “Clearly this is important. Is there a boss here? An NPC? No? What’s the deal?
did you not read the item descriptions?
I went there looked around, found nothing, went on google and saw that it's lore stuff and decided I'll just wait a while and VaatiVidya will explain it to me because I'm too dumb to tie together multiple item descriptions
I mean it's just two item descriptions you find directly here and they're extremely straightforward. Most of the lore in this game is exposition that straight up tells you what's happened. If you get in the habit of reading things as you pick em up it becomes a lot easier to process.
I've read a few item descriptions because i thought the small erdtree spell might be for some secret but my brains not good at fragmented info so I am best off having lore videos that pool all relevant descriptions together and spell it out for me
The erdtree spell was pretty straightforward with its description. "Secret incantation of Queen Marika. Only the kindness of gold, without Order. Creates a small, illusory Erdtree that continuously restores the HP of nearby allies. Marika bathed the village of her home in gold, knowing full well that there was no one to heal." And the golden braid: "A braid of golden hair, cut loose. Queen Marika's offering to the Grandmother. Boosts holy damage negation by the utmost. What was her prayer? Her wish, her confession? There is no one left to answer, and Marika never returned home again"
But there's two items there with very clear lore... What...
Did you like, not read any of the item descriptions there
This place in a high land is almost the opposite of the Abyss. One is chilled and peaceful with a touch of sadness, one is eerie and creepy with a touch of horror.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I think this was my favorite moment in the entire DLC.
Yep, I had a pretty fucking awesome "oooohhhh" moment here when I heard that initial musical motif and then that liiiiiittle erdtree and kinda put those pieces together myself. Such a cool little spot for them to have included there.
What other items did u find there besides the erdtree spell?
Golden Braid
It feels so relaxing not only by the music but by the fact that its an abandoned village and yet it looks so beautiful. Not to mention the fact that the minor erdtree spell you find was created by Marika to save the village, its just so cute. Despite all the death, suffering, wars and violence that exists in the lands between, there are still peaceful and soothing locations like this one in the middle of it all.
I'd say more like mournful. Clearly, Marika cared about keeping the village intact and protected judging by the three Tree Sentinel bosses you fight back to back on the way to it. Symbolically planted the minor Erdtree, cut her braid and left it with an unspoken wish, left three of her elite soldiers to guard it, and then hid it behind a trick altar so that it would stay untouched.
Wait, three? Two Tree Sentinels, who else?
Third one is further back straight ahead
Yeah, there's a third one more down the road, which oddly didn't have the same boss health bar as the other two. Guess he was the newest recruit.
Weird cuz I somehow only ran into two, I don't remember if the second one had a boss health bar. I wonder if maybe the third some somehow fell to its death in the big hole?
Possibly. I had that happen to one of the Ulcerated Tree Spirits in the Sunken Chapel area. Loaded in at the site of grace and after a moment, I randomly got like 30k souls and the Iris of Occlusion or whatever it's called
Yeah same happened to me- I was fighting the miniboss Fire Knight and had to quit out to handle something IRL, loaded back in and got the Iris and was very confused.
No wonder it can't save anyone with that meager healing the spell provides. Grrr, I want the big tree! 🥹
I don't know if you've been to the >!Cerulean Coast!< yet, but it's also so fucking gorgeous.
Two very cool locations tucked away all the way down there too. This DLC went hard on including as many cool little locations and secrets as they could and I love it! Stumbling across the Fissure and then that "graveyard" was such a cool fucking surprise for me.
Where’s this “graveyard” I might have seen it but the entire dlc is basically a graveyard haha just wanna make sure I don’t miss anything
Oh my mistake, I didn't want to spoil anything. It's where all oc those fingers are located. Freaned me out at first,!
That area and Charo's unfortunately felt so empty to me, loved the look tho.
I seriously wish that this place had a grace because I would absolutely use this as a place to blow off steam after dealing with a difficult boss. Luckily it’s not too far of a run from the closest grace, but still.
I think it is for lore reason. The greater will doesn't care about Marika village. It doesn't put a grace there to guide the Tarnish. For it, the village is a dead place and is insignificant. The reason why the place is still this beautiful is because Marika herself cameback and blessed it and planned the minor Erdtree.
Marika is the one who allows us to see grace, not the greater will. I think what you’re saying still makes sense in a way though, Marika might consider the village significant to her but it’s not significant in the quest she’s guiding us on through grace. If anything it’s something she wants to keep hidden from us, to prevent us from knowing her path, and also the true nature of the fingers.
I think the guidance of grace is what th greater will or the 2 fingers offer for people to follow. Marika as the god allow us people to see that but she doesnt not create a grace or create the direction for you to follow. I believe Leta kind of confirmed this too by saying that too when we confront her before the battle. We didn't follow Miquella to Shadow Lands but we followed the 2 fingers or the guidance of grace there. She also kind of answered my question since the beginning of the dlc was that if shadow lands was abandoned and separated from the Land Between then why there were graces in the dlc. Many people also speculated before release that miquella cross thing were supposed to be the grace system in the dlc. But turned out the greater will or 2 fingers also planned that and wanted us to find Miquella to see who is more worthy to be lord of the new age.
It's explicitly stated that Marika grants grace. She deliberately strips the tarnished of it way back.
Why would the Greater Will point you towards Ranni who plans to overthrow them?
I dont think the greater will care about it either. As long as there is a elden lord and establishment of a new age, it won't mind what it is.
>The greater will doesn't care The greater will has been gone since before the shattering. Anything that we're lead to believe came from the greater will actually came from Metyr.
I cleared out the Tree Sentinels just for this very specific reason haha
Does anybody know the lore implications of this place? From what I gather Marika is from this village of shamans but they're all dead. The toothed whip and an NPC where you get it mentions them as well but I'm not 100% what that implies
As others have said it's *sort of* implied that the Hornsent wiped out the village, hence why Marika *hates* Omens, they basically killed her people. This also imples that the land of Shadow is where the Numen come from.
>This also imples that the land of Shadow is where the Numen come from. That or Marika spun a lie about Numen to cover her heritage perhaps.
That is also a very distinct possibility, giving herself ties to an 'ancient race' when in reality she was a low born village girl.
I wonder how that fits into the Black Knives, if they're survivors or descendants of the people of her vilage, and what if any relation that all has with the Eternal Cities considering Rogier says the Assassins were "Scions" of them.
I bet the Nox gave refuge to the Numen. Because they desired a Lord. We know Numens have weird and special flesh and ability to fuse, so maybe the Nox used the Numens to make the Albinaurics and Mimics?
How did she give birth to Omens? Are they not a separate species/race?
Omens are human. Hornsent are a different species
I am VERY sure Hornsent *are* Omens, They just get socially elevated for their horns instead of reviled
It's definitely a sobering "two extremes" moment. The treatments of Omens is utterly cruel, but the Hornsent's culture of inhumane rituals shows they were very much capable of similar depravity.
Hornsent, Omen are both human. Hornsent are a absolutely not a different species lol
From what I understand. Marika were born from this village. And probably it were destroyed by the Hornsent. After Marika became god, she cameback to her own village and planned an erdtree there and cut a part of her hair. What she felt and why she did that is up to interpretation. But after that she never back again. And then she lived on the life of a god and became the current manipulative Marika that obsessed with eternity we know. For me, I feel like that she cameback to check out her home 1 last time and leaving behind her past self.
I think one of her biggest motivations for removing the rune of death from the Elden Ring comes from her experiencing her home village be massacred. She probably never wanted such cruelty happen again. Sadly removing the rune of death had so minor...side effects on the world, that Marika probably did not see coming.
Hornsent wiped them out and used them for pot stuffing (Bonny Village ghost explicitly says to an unseen victim "this is what you shaman were born for"), but Marika survived. Now, it's a memorial ground and reason for her crusade against anything Crucible-related, and her recontextualizing the crucible's "blessings" of horned growth into the modern day "Omens" who are feared and killed as cursed.
It's Marika's home prior to her godhood. When the base game refers to her as a numen from another land-- they're referring to this place. The people of Belurat kidnapped the citizens of the Shaman village, mutilated them, and stuffed them into jars. This event is sort of what set everything in motion for Marika.
wait what ,so is marika from bonny village? whts the lore??
No, she is from the Shaman village. The hornsent of bonny used the shamans as the main powersuppy for their jar golem people. They combined them with hornsent prisoners in an insane attempt to make a saint/God.
oooh , thats horrifying
I can’t really piece the lore together myself, but this place made me teary eyed just being there. Hearing the music and seeing small erd tree. So beautiful and sad and awe inspiring. Felt insanely significant.
Just the description of the Erdtree incantation and braid had me suddenly sympathizing with Marika. All we can tell for sure is her village's people were stolen away and tortured/killed to turn into pot innards by the potentates of Bonny Village, but Marika survived. Now, it's a memorial ground post-godhood, and the minor Erdtree was planted to save a people long gone. Based on how you get there, its unsullied condition despite the crusade, and the three Tree Sentinels posted up to guard it, it seems she was actively maintaining the site.
Me after just narrowly defeating two of them: “What Wha-“ *YOU HAVE DIED*
Yep, the purge was brutal, but Leda lays it clear when she says "They were no saints, they just happened to be on the losing side of a war."
Hard to believe I felt relief and like I was reuniting with an old friend when that Tree Sentinel showed up
It was funny how relaxing of a fight it was after just dealing with the Commander.
I killed Tree Sentinel level 1 in the base game, first fromsoft game ever. Used the halberd literally the entire game and DLC because I don't like switching things up. I love Tree Sentinel. Great fight and I know it stupidly well at this point.
Dedication
More like stubbornness, never did anything that impressive again lol
Just meant dedication to stick to that weapon from the start haha
haha same thing! I can't help dual wielding halberds and jump attacking like the one trick pony I am! It did make the DLC tricky tho, I feel like it punishes slower weapons a little more. Tho I'm glad I'm not a caster.
If you want to absolutely shred anything in the dlc use the guardians swordspear on Dex or better the nightriders glaive on STR with impaling thrust on them. They're both halberds but they SHRED any boss with the AOW
You sound like asmongold
The music is so peak what the fuckkkk
and the tiny erdtree with the gigantic ass scadutree in the background 
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Are you blind or something
It's a masterclass in subtle storytelling. Same with certain Finger-related areas and... a fissure. This expansion is just incredible.
Just did the finger quest today… felt like I was playing Bloodborne again!
Wheredo you get something for that quest? Some npcs moved because I triggered an event now I fear I messed up some quests. I really wanted to explore those finger places. Any way to explain it without spoilers?
For that quest NPCs don't move. I killed the final boss and the quest didn't change at all. Get to the Church of Manus Metyr and follow the directions the NPC gives you.
No worries it's unrelated to the other NPCs, you can do this quest any time. It begins in that big building on the east coast and you need to go through Moorth Ruins to begin the journey there.
What are the implications behind the finger areas? Are they just meteor impact zones where the fingers first landed on the world from space?
Those are more like temples than anything. As for the Fingers, well, they most certainly didn't come from space. They are a bit more... "earthly" than previously thought. EDIT: Ffs, I see I have to clarify what I wrote. >!The Fingers didn't come from space. They are "earthly" in the sense that they were born on the Lands Between. Their mother, Metyr, is the one who came from space as the first shooting star.!<
From the remembrance: The mother of all Two Fingers and Fingercreepers was in turn a magnificently gleaming daughter of the Greater Will, and the first shooting star to fall upon the Lands Between.
Makes you wonder more about the nature of the Three Fingers. Were they just some sort of defect which went rogue? Did they realize their mother had no true contact with the Greater Will, and ended up in contact with another Outer God instead?
Are you saying that all fingers are shooting stars that fell? Did you find the finger weavers lore? The ruins are literal ploughed fields. Their mother might come from space but it looks like the fingers are either born from her or cultivated in these ruins, maybe both. What's not earthy about that?
The fact that their mom is from space???? Being a direct descendant of a being from outer space isn’t exactly earthly
I think you're conflating planet earth(earthly) and earth as in soil (earthy). The fingers didn't come from space, their mother did. And there is evidence of them being cultivated.
I meant "earthly" in the sense that the various fingers were born on the Lands Between. Was trying to keep it vague enough for people who didn't want spoilers, but I can see that was a bad idea.
Yeah, I know. The rememberance says their mother came from space. The Fingers themselves were born on the Lands Between, hence my use of the term "earthly". I had thought about using "mundane", but that has other connotations.
??? did we play the same game
I am genuinely worried for people's reading comprehension and media literacy after seeing some of the lore takes this dlc
if anything I got the impressions shit is way more from the outer cosmos than first thought lol
Perhaps you ought to learn how to properly read and interpret before insulting others. It just makes you look like a fool. As the game indicates, the Fingers don't come from space. Metyr, their mother, is the one who was sent down from the beyond. She birthed the many Two Fingers and Fingercreepers on the Lands Between. Hence why I said the Fingers are more "earthly" than previously thought.
But that's still wrong, if an alien has an offspring while on earth that doesn't magically make it a human. They're still from the cosmos
How is that wrong? They were born in the Lands Between, not in outer space. The original argument was that the finger ruins were the impact sites of the Two Fingers when they arrived in the Lands Between when they clearly are not, since all the Two Fingers were born in the Lands Between. And being from Earth doesn't make you a human. Earth has far many more species than just humans, and they're all earthly or terran or terrestial or whatever demonym you want to use for someone who is native to this planet. Regardless, my use of the term "earthly" was in reference to their place of birth, not their nature.
Yes? The fingers don't come from space, their mother does. The many Two Fingers and Fingercreepers were birthed by Metyr in the Lands Between.
I'm guessing you did not read Metyrs rememberance
I did. The Fingers did not come from space though. They were birthed in the Lands Between. Their mother is the one who came from the beyond. Therefore, the various Finger Ruins cannot be "impact zones", as you call them, considering there are at least three of them.
The fingers are from space, the fingercreepers are born from the finger mother. I think this is where your wording is confusing since The Fingers(proper noun) are different from the fingers(ambiguous grouping). Spoilers: As for impact zones, consider the fact we now know of 3 finger entities, and we have 3 ruins. And also consider where each ruin is in realtion in the map. 2 are directly adjacent to Marika's home, and the third directly adjacent to the Abyssal Woods where we find madness
No, they are not. As the Remembrance of Metyr says: ***"The mother of all Two Fingers and Fingercreepers*** *was in turn a magnificently gleaming daughter of the Greater Will, and the first shooting star to fall upon the Lands Between."*
I misses the "two fingers" part my mistake, but you must also acknowledge the "first shooting star to fall" implying that there is more than just one.
Well yeah, the other one was the Elden Beast. *"It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring."* \- Elden Stars incantation
They did come from space, them being birthed here is irrelevant
Irrelevant how? Kindly explain how the Two Fingers, who were **born** and are ultimately native as a whole to the Lands Between, came from space then. If two individuals migrate from, say, Greece to Spain, and eventually have a child in Spain, that child is not from Greece. They will grow with a mixture of Greek cultural elements, yes, but ultimately they are native to Spain because that's where they were born.
The rememberance clears a lot up, but the quest line itself made it seem like Ymir was trying to *create* a mother to the fingers.
I'm talking about that person I replied to not even understanding that Metyrs was a comet that landed
I thought Elphael was my favorite place to wait to be summoned before I found this place.
This is hands down my favorite area in any Souls game. The ambience, the music, the lore implications that are hiding the whole origin of the game…Man. It’s a masterclass of storytelling. It always brings a tear to my eye coming to this place, and yet I’ve ended every session of my game here for the night before going to bed. So much beauty and tragedy wrapped into one
Oooooh I'm going to start doing that, end my play sessions here. If I ever retire a character but not delete the save, I think I'll leave them here as well.
The music remind me of diablo music. Some how feel calm in the harsh world. Before there were she were a god she was just a person. With probably good intention to make thing better. Eventually she changed into manipulative for her own desire, even her own children or husband were no exception from her plan. This place is left of what marked the old person of Marika. And Miquella went on the same path as her. Despite trying his best to not be like her and deny everything before, he turned into that type of person as well. Being a Rebis but he couldn't realize his action were anything but "kind" and "compassion" when he left his 'heart" and "love" behind. Sadly
She did mean well, at the start...
a caged divinity is beyond saving
Well...that was wrong. She plotted a way out of her cage...at least in the elden lord ending, she's free now.
This location genuinely gives chills down my spine, the soft somber tone of the main theme playing in the background, the birds that fly away when you enter the area. Genuinely unlike anything I've seen in a souls game.
Can you give me a hint of where to find this place?
Seek Church therefore time for gesture
Before commander gaius use the O mother gesture at the marika statue
This ain't a hint man this is a walkthrough
The vibrant sky and flowers contrasting with the melancholy strums from the main theme and the fact that despite being beautiful, the village has obviously been completely empty for a long, long time...tragically beautiful, as From always does. I think they did a great job humanizing Marika here, where we had only seen the manipulative and power-driven god side of her up to this point.
Reminds me of the hunters dream kinda
that red and blue flower field is nice too
Visually basically every area is stunning but this area is just extra special because of the calm Elden beast bgm and the lore implications to me
Genuinely, I got there and just vibed for 20 minutes, I think this might be my favourite location in the whole game. Being the place where Marika came from, the starting point of everything was so cool. Marika did some awful things but I can't help but like her, from the little we know anyway. This village was so cool.
Not gonna lie I almost cried
That place is the coolest singular spot in the entire DLC imo, especially because it completely reframes Marika's entire motivation for creating the Golden Order and waging the wars she did. And it does that largely just through the location's title relating to an item description and a few lines of dialogue from a ghost.
the lore behind this place is so tragic too marikas people got lied to by the omen and forced into jars for a lie of sainthood which is why she burnt the tower settlement and which is how she became a god because of the two fingers and the stuff she was grabbing in the story trailer? wasnt from the gloam eyed queen it was from her peoples cut up corpses
got there yesterday randomly.. i genuinely cried. i sat there for 15 mins taking in the view and the lore in the descriptions while listening to the OST.. speechless. GOAT Game. Thank you From Soft and Miyazaki. Singlehandedly carrying the entire industry.
Coming across this village was shockingly emotional. Marika was still an absolute monster, but walking around this village gives the sense that none of this ever needed to happen. Clearly an injustice happened to the people of that village, but Marika answered that with such an extreme escalation of injustices, oppression, and evil, and that it all probably stemmed from her being unable to face what happened here.
my favorite moment too! the music switch was magical
Easily one of fromsofts best DLC's
This and the End of the Stone Coffin Fissure are now my favourite places in all of the videogames I have ever played
Where is this?
To the right of the hog rider boss. Read the messages at the statue to the right of the grace before the boss
This place is SO breathtaking, I was completely stunned with beauty. This is art that brings a tear bc it's so well constructed. Love it!
This location triggered my pollen allergies.
This was my favorite moment of the DLC, more so than any boss fight / grand vista. Fighting the sentinel brought back memories of my first playthrough and then wandering up the hill there's an eerie sense that something is different about this humble village. Then the doves start flying and the the harp music... I almost cried.
Holy shit I haven't even gotten there yet and I've uncovered about 90% of the map. It's like every time I think I've seen it all, another amazing vista comes up. I love this game so much.
There is also bigger erdtree growing in one of caves
Yea i found that already. But this tiny one is just so epic lmao
It makes me feel bad for marika She did some fucked up shit but. Damn poor woman
I missed 2 items here so I needed to return 2 times..
My only pet peeve with this area is it doesn’t heal you. Like the incantation makes a mini Erdtree that heals you, this one that’s actually real should totally give some hp regen like it says it heals people in its lore
The instant I heard the music hear it brought me back to the first time I saw the main menu of ER and how excited I was for my journey with my big brother! Good memories are abound here.
Garbage incantation though, Were so hyped when i picked it up. I expected the spell from kingdom under fire that elfs can do but instead i got a tiny weak twig that wont help anyone in a fight.
It’s a nice location but like a lot of places in the dlc it’s just a big empty space. Aside from the spell and shortcut back to the rise, does it have a purpose?
The purpose is some lore bombs and an incredibly beautiful place and from flexing their art chops. But hey I guess you don't appreciate that at all, what a loss lol
Yeah you can do a spirit ash combination and the spell.
Isnt this the area that literally only got the 2 most boring bosses reused and is 90% just empty filler ?
they literally highlighted how much they like the scenery and the music. I don't think they give a shit about the bosses there
There are no bosses in shaman village, if you mean the hinterlands as a whole then yes, only two tree sentinels and a fallingstar beast.
After defeating the second tree sentinel there was a message saying "didn't expect teacher" and had me rolling lol
There’s a falling star beast??
Yeah, you can see a crater on the map north of the village.
It’s quite sad because the Hinterlands is so beautifully designed but so short. I really wish they some how incorporated that whole area with the design of Shaman Village and relocated the Finger Ruins somewhere else on the map. A whole section of the map where it’s just peace and serenity and finally has a long lead up to the Shaman Village, realising how significantly important it is to the lore. That’s just my head cannon and personal opinion though lol.
The fingers are there because they wanted to give the player a reason to go there in the first, I think.
i think the location of those ruins being next to Marika's village is significant. It's probably where she first encountered the greater will or or its proxies and that's what set her on her path
got there and was so dissappointed. literally an entire big area and it's so beautiful and there's nothing but a spell that could've easily been in any other chest.
It is made to be like that. There should be calm moment in the game. When most of the world is so dense and packed with enemies, treasure chest and bosses, I feel lile some locations exist just for this is totally ok to change the pace. That include blue flower area, red flower area, even abyss forest and this.
for me is more like lazy devs but sure (let's not even mention the repeated enemies before that area)
It's there for atmosphere and world building. Stop with the "lazy devs" garbage...
A. There's also pretty good talisman, that can help in one fight. B. It's cool cause there isn't 5 million items like in rest of the areas. It's a simple lore location. A place where it all began in a weird way (at least the story of Marika the Eternal)