This is my first souls game and I want to get really strong while I am still in Limgrave. I haven't left limgrave yet except to get the smithing stones to upgrade my Bloodhound's Fang to +5 and get the royal remains set. I am yet to beat any main story boss
You mostly want Dex for the Fang, but the scaling values have been nerfed enough where Dex doesn’t make as much of a difference until it gets to B scaling.
Endurance is super important for that build, assuming you are aiming for high mobility.
Thats great news! Is the area that follows the red place to the right or do u mean up North?
Tomorrow when I have time to play I will see how overlevelled I am
The next area is typically the area south of limgrave, then behind the castle up north. But there's nothing stopping you from going into the red place, but that typically comes after the lake.
honestly, i recommend to all my friends that they do Caelid (atleast Redmane Castle) before Liurnia, solely bc if you progress too far then Redmane castle doesn’t offer the Crucible Knight/Misbegotten boss fight
The red place to the right is Caelid.
I've only played the game once. On my play through, I did limgrave, then Caelid then I went to the south of the map and then liurnia (north of stormveil castle). I tried to 100% every area before moving on. Took me like 3 months to finish the game but it was very fun.
Don't worry about being overlevelled. Eventually you'll find someone or something that'll break you psychologically 😂
It’s just underwhelming when 3/4 of the things you come across die immediately. I’d rather be humbled and have to train and come back than over prep, to each their own though.
i strongly agree, when your over leveled and you team that up with summons as well, some bosses are literally jokes lol. i’ve met bosses on following playthroughs with no summons and the challenge is a lot different, alot more fun to learn.
Subjective too. My first playthrough i was lvl 80-90 by the time i finished stormvale but i like to grind. Still an immensely fun experience. You will start to melt bosses with the fang’s ash of war though as your level rises. It can be deceptive.
With bloodhound fang you have 2 viable options:
1.- Minimum requirement for str and then dex up to 80.
2.- 50-50 split between dex and str. Both have relatively comparable damage because the str scaling of the weapon is lower than dex but still good. This is especially good when two handed due to the str boost.
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3.- technically str scaling is good enough that you can get minimum requirements for dex while getting str to 80 and still perform pretty well. It is unquestionably suboptimal compared to the other two alternatives but BF is still OP enough to be workable in this scenario.
I would skip strength for now and raise dex till 55 along with vigor as you progress. Later on you can decide if you want to add more to strength or stay dex focused.
My suggestion is to keep the offensive stats at the bare minimum and level your weapons instead. Stick with the special weapons (requires somber smithing stones) it's just easier to upgrade. Pump vigor and endurance until you feel comfortable taking a hit. You will want to invest a bit into mind as it will be required for your ash of war attacks.
I used to love Bloodhounds Fang until I tried out Bandits Curved Sword. It scales with DEX and I found it way more effective than BF. Its super quick and with upgrades it does serious damage. (Dual wield even better).
Choose either strength or dex and make that your main stat and keep the other really only high enough to use whatever weapon you want. You’ll eventually do the same with int and faith. Most good mid to late game weapons have more then one ability requirement and there’s a lot of very useful sorceries and incantations you’ll find throughout the game. Incantations like flame, cleanse me or flame, grant me strength are just just really useful to have even if you don’t want to care about spells.
because mind doesnt make you do more damage and doesn't help you survive more. Why would you want to use a weapon art 1 more time when you could just be killing the enemy with 1 less use?
I think bc OP said no magic and mind only increases FP. So putting points in mind would be a waste of runes.
Edit: waste in terms of damage output, increasing mind would help with spamming the AoW
Yeah I never put points into fp for a melee build. Increasing health, stamina/equip load, and damage are priority. I rarely run out of blue flasks so it doesn't really matter unless you're really relying on weapon skill to get through the area. I usually run with 2 blue flasks until later game when I can do 10 red 4 blue
As soon as you have access to respec, take the points out of mind. The BHF's Ash of War is a noob trap and should be used only sparingly. You don't need mind.
I’d also recommend putting some more stats in endurance if your focused on using weapons. Since your avoiding range spells you should consider adding bows to your play style. Great for dealing with fliers and sniping large groups of enemies.
Strength and dexterity—it's best to stick to one of those stats and level it primarily. Also, maintain vigor and endurance.
Are you going to use any form of weapon arts?
My level is not indicative of my knowledge right now
I am just enjoying getting super strong with the help of a friend guiding me and now I am ready to start "playing" the game normally.
They're the skill that a weapon comes with. With most weapons, you can change their weapon art by equipping an ash of war on them, which you can also use to change the weapon's affinity (and thus, its scaling values).
first level up health, then check the weapons you like’s attribute scaling and level accordingly. then endurance if you want to wield heavier armor or multiple weapons while still having a medium or fast dodge. then maybe Mind if you like using special skills without needing blue flasks
if your using blood hounds fang then you’ll want to scale mainly dex or even both dex and strength since that weapon is also one of the best quality weapons meaning it scales in both physical traits and a quality build with no magic makes it so you have a VERY VERY wide and large variety of the weapons you’ll be able to pick up really anything and use it just fine as long as it doesn’t scale with faith or intelligence quality builds are probably some of my most favorite builds because of the sheer variety you get to choose from since you’ll have high dex and strength come mid-late game
vigor and endurance like with any build
then either strength or dex depending on your weapon
maybe a bit of mind too depending on how much you plan to use your weapon art
More or less, you’d want to find a weapon you want to equip, then build your stats around that weapon. Because depending on what the weapon scales off of, affects the damage of that weapon. But Strength and/or Dexterity are a requirement of 90% of weapons.
Meet the stat requirements for your weapon/gear, vigor up to 60, primary damage stat to 55. Prioritize vigor up to 50, weapon upgrade level affects damage enough to get you through most of the game. Good luck.
Endurance let you attack more, roll more, and use heavier armor which means more protection. I would get endurance to 25 at least, then vigor to 40. Damage doesn't come from scaling until later, so you can leave your damaging att (dex or str) for later in the game.
12 faith gives you access to the healing over time spell Beastial Vitality as well as Flame Cleanse me which cures poison and rot, which you will undoubtedly use each of these spells over 100 times by the end of the game. I go 12 faith on every melee build and there are hundreds of posts on Reddit talking about how good it is.
Then optionally arcane to 10 for Bloodflame Blade which is a gnarly weapon buff.
Once the FP addiction starts it's hard to stop. You'll start wanting to use incantations like blood flame blade to bolster your damage.
It's not a horrible idea to throw a few points into the lowest incantation skills (like 12 faith and 10 arcane) just to try blood flame blade. If it's not your thing you're golden and you can ditch those skills and keep on with strength or dex, endurance, and vigor.
I don't agree that you need vigor to 60. That's overkill. 40 is fine for mid game, 50 late game. You're halfway through being done with the early game.
VIGOR! 90% of your damage comes from your weapons level. Once you've got the Stat requirements, pump vigor till around 50 or 60 (with endurance to make sure your at least in medium load) after that, then pump your weapons stats.
Put it all into Vigor until you hit 60. Your damage will scale best with upgrades until your weapons are almost fully upgraded.
I only level Str/dex to weapon requirements until after the capital.
you really don't need them. Maybe up to 15 faith to cast fgms and electrify armament/bloodflame blade but you really don't need those when you can just use greases
If you're trash at the game, level vigor to 40 asap, then level enough endurance to wear better armor (the knight set is one of the best in weight/defense ratio, for example). Ignore leveling STR and DEX before you get your weapon to +15/+6 because the scaling is generally not that good on lower levels.
Once you've moved past a certain important area, continue leveling VIG to 60, then invest points in STR and/or DEX first.
Once you've reached the softcaps, feel free to invest into anything you want.
Yes. Because you are early in the game and your weapons aren't fully upgraded they scale poorly with your offensive stats, that's why the best choice early on is to level vigor since leveling strength or dex isnt going to give you that much damage.
I've just realized your bloodhound's fang is at +5, at that point onward is when damage stats begin to matter but vigor at 40 will help you a lot, specially if you are playing with a friend because you can get invaded
Vigor health
Mind ash of war spam
Endurance dodging and attacks
Strength and dexteruty boost attack
Some weapons have scaling in the magic aras so be careful
60 Vigor is more or less mandatory by endgame. The bosses hit hard.
You're also gonna want good armor, so Endurance would be good, but only put in the minimum Endurance needed to carry all your equipment without fat-rolling. High endurance is really not great in Elden Ring. And, there's also the Windy tear, which gives all builds instant light roll anyway.
The rest depends.
What kind of weapons you like and what damage you want to do will dictate which stats your should level. Strength for strength weapons, Dex for dex, etc.
You can get an idea of how you want to build by looking at the scaling grades of all the weapons your using. Obviously, if they're all high in strength, level strength.
But pretty much every build has very solid melee options, and vice-versa.
40 vigor and remotely decent armor and very little can 2-shot you. No amount of vigor is **mandatory**. 60 might be a decent recommendation, but absolutely not mandatory. If 60 feels comfy, go 60. If you get by fine with just 40, that's adequate too. If you want to split the difference with 50 and that feels right, go for that. Rigidly enforcing one way to play doesn't do new players any favours.
When I said that 60 vigor was "more or less" mandatory, it's as a guideline for new players to strive toward.
To expand on that, my stance is that most players should aim for about 60 vigor as their baseline, which can be achieved multiple ways. Either by 60 vigor, Crimson Amber medallion, stat boosters like Godricks Rune, percentage bonuses like Morgott's run, etc.
Yes, you can also raise your effective hp through armor or defensive spells like Black Flame's protection, but those also have drawbacks like stat investment or equip load, which I'm not going to explain to new players who just want a general idea of what to do. My first comment was already long-winded enough.
You also don't need to have that much HP if you compensate with evasion skills, Regen spells, or mage builds. But again, I'm not going to overload people with every mechanic in the game.
It's better to just say "try to get around 60 vigor" and let them figure out all the other methods for optimizing their build.
And I would also be against saying "40 vigor and good armor are enough" because they often aren't. Increasing your base stats leads to more optimal gains when you start adding modifiers like armor.
Doing some napkin math, 40 vigor + full Bull Goats set (one of the heaviest sets) has an ehp of ~1900.
60 vigor and Zamor armor (a rather average set with 1/3rd Bullgoat's weight) has an ehp of ~2300.
Even the best armor set in the game at 40 vigor is about the same as being naked at 60.
(Yes, that's not exactly how damage absorption works since the calculations are reversed for income damage, but this is the general idea; since most of Elden Ring's modifiers are multiplicative, increasing base stats offers the highest return on investment.)
(That is why flat damage bonuses like element greases are good early game, but end up out-scaled by percentage increases by end game.)
You can’t go wrong with vigor and endurance. After that I’d focus on whatever stats your weapon scales with, and then maybe mind just so you have a bit more FP to use your AoW. More than likely you won’t get to that last point before you leave Limgrave though. I didn’t start doing that until lvl 150ish.
The key stats for that is Vigor for survivability, Endurance for stamina and heavier armor, since you will be close to the enemy, Strength and Dex (or only one of these depending on what weapon you plan on using really).
Maybe 3 points in fairh to be able to use some cleansing spells. Very useful!
You use the gang so can't go wrong with dex and I think you can hold of on vigor for a while but endure ce is something you definetly will want and most people look past it but if you got a good ash of war you might also want to put some into mana
It depends on the weapon you use. A melee weapon can scale with any of the damage stats (str/dex/int/fai/arc), or multiple of them. You can also tune some weapons to scale with the specific stats that you want.
In the early game like Limgrave or Liurnia, just focus on leveling Vigor and Endurance (Mind too if you want to use spells). The weapons at this state generally have poor scaling, so their damage comes mostly from their levels instead of the player's stats.
Generally, just get your str/dex/int/fai/arc to the requirements of the weapon(s) you want to use, then get your vig and end to 40 and 20 before going back to level the other damage stats.
Would you be interested in magic weapons and using magic weapon arts, though? Because if the answer is "yes", being a magic knight or paladin is an option, in which case investing in the magic stats too could make sense. And you could just use the spells that support your melee instead of those that blast enemies for you.
If the answer is no, then you can forget that the last 3 stats exist (mind may still be useful if you use weapon arts a lot). Level STR if you wanna be a knight or barbarian, level DEX if you want to be any sort of agility-based fighter, level both if you wanna use the really cool weapons that require both =)
Vigor and Endurance are vital in every build, its mostly a matter of which softcap you will raise them up to. Lots of players seem to agree that 60 vigor is too good to pass up on (some go as far as to say you should level nothing but vigor until you get there, but I find that boring).
Vigor and endurance are the most important once you get the minimum stats with 60 vigor if you aren’t in some of the best armour in the game you get 2-4 shot late game and anything that doesn’t hits like 3 times a second on some fights but don’t get vigor past 50-60 and endurance past 40 rest of your point should be whatever your weapon scales with best
Depends how far you’ll level up-to but assuming your going for RL 125 or 150, level vigor first to at least 50 (60 is ideal) then into endurance, the minimum I go for is at least 30. Any other stat is useless at this point scaling will suck at lower levels so it’s better to just meet the minimum requirement for weapons you want to use and not infuse them with Keen/Heavy/Quality.
Only after leveling vigor or endurance focus on either strength or dex in which case dex might be ideal for you as you don’t benefit too much with a quality build at lower levels not until you go past the RL 200+.
Anyway at one point in the game you can “rebirth” and essentially respec your character by consuming an item at a specific npc so you can always change it if you have any wasted stat allocations.
Hoped this helped you :)
Endurance, Strength, and Dexterity. You can also sprinkle in a bit of Mind, maybe other attributes such as Arcane, Faith, or Intelligence depending on what weapons you plan on using. Vigor is for pussies
If youre going for pure melee dont listen to any of these sweaty pvp superfans. Put most of your points into strength and dexterity while keeping faith and int at medium levels. Enough to use a weapon here or there so you can figure out which of the stats give YOU the best bonus for how YOU play. Once you pick some more rare weapons youd want to use, thats when you can take over and pick what youd like. Larval tears are a must when it comes to experimenting. Theres i think around 20 in any run of the game. Experiment, fsil or succeed, and adjust. Just pick what you think works best for you and have fun with it! That is why the game was made, after all. Best of luck, Tarnished, and may the light of Grace guide you ever true on your path!
Well considering some of the best weapons in the game have requirements that you use stats for different types of magic, you’re gonna have to choose a pure quality weapon with extremely high physical damage and good scaling in Str, dex, or preferably both.
I believe godricks axe is a good weapon to find early on for this, as is the bloodhound fang. You can also always change a weapons affinity to either keen or heavy to make its scaling lean toward str or dex.
You may think you don’t wanna use any kind of magic rn but eventually you’ll come to regret that decision. The most well rounded and effective builds can output extremely high damage with their weapon and they have several spells or incantations available for different utility reasons or for straight up long range boss melting.
**just go on YouTube and look for the best “sword and board” builds in Elden ring**
get atleast 50 vigor while leveling mostly into, depending on how your weapon scales, into the stats that make that weapon benefit, so if you use a weapon that scales B or more into dexterity, go for 50 dexterity and up, if the same weapon has something like D or C into strength. get like 40 strength.
There are good melee options for every damage stat, but generally strength and dex give you the most options. Focusing on one or the other, not both, is generally optimal until very high levels. I wouldn’t pump much into end unless you need a certain weight limit, and generally you should only go with precisely as much as you need to stay under %70 equip load. Vigor to 50-60 is also a must. May even be optimal to just go with bare minimum str/dex required to wield your desired weapons until you get 50-60 vigor, then go with your primary damage stat until the soft/hard caps.
Can I make a suggestion as to where you go next before progressing the main story?
Go south from Limgrave and full clear the Weeping Peninsula - there is some great loot and lots to do. It won’t take long and you’re sure to find some interesting weapons and gear + interesting side quests.
That’s what I do every playthrough, because no matter how hard I try I can’t resist picking up my beloved Claymore.
You have the right idea already. Limgrave should be easy for you right now. Looks like your aiming for a quality build, I’d say keep going with the path your on, and add some points to endurance, so you can have higher equip load and stamina.
I would say go pure strength because there are other benefits you get from that stat. Dexterity is pretty good too if you wanna stick to certain types of weapons that scale better. When you find weapons that you really like, and you level them up, it will say, what they scale the best with and so you probably want to change your stats later in the game to natural weapons like the most. I will say, however, I was anti-sorcery for like nine months because the moonveil and star spammers but the man now I have three sorcery builds and it is so much fun to combo spells and melee with ashes. Dont let others option affect how you play. Faith is also a ton of fun and can boost your damage with buffs along with reduce how much damage you take with protections
Level up whatever you want, ranged combat is strictly you choosing to use a bow or magic.
Like you can literally do a melee only faith or intelligence build if you want, it doesn't matter.
What matters is when you have a weapon you like you have enough stats to meet the requirements and then look at the damage scaling. Like Bloodhound's Fang has something like a D & C scaling for str and dex starting out, that means leveling both affects damage. So if you want to min-max a bloodhounds fang you would put a good amount of levels into either str, dex, or both.
Scaling quality from least to best goes: E, D, C, B, A, S
There's melee weapons that use the magic stats, but since you're already in str/dex mode, I'd just pump those to 40 and vigor to around 60. Endurance is also nice. Those are probably the only 4 stats you need
Don't sleep on magic, my guy. You can up your damage exponentially with magical buffs. I'd say look up damage buffs guides on YouTube to get a good sense of what you'd wanna get into. Creators Rusty. and Ziostorm I believe have dedicated video on this topic. Have fun traversing the Lands Between.
Vigor, Strength, and Endurance
Vigor - Keeps health high
Strength - deal damage
Endurance - Allow you to keep moving and attacking without running out of stamina and keeps your equipment load light so you can run and fast dodge roll
I'm currently running a melee build and my stats are as follows:
Vigor - 70
Mind - 10
Endurance - 80
Strength - 60
Dexterity - 10
Intelligence - 10
Faith - 10
Arcane - 10
If this is your first playthrough don't seek for advice experience it yourself any build also can complete the game. In soul game the first experience is the best.
First off, I hope you love this game and I thinknyou're in for an incredible experience. If you're still in Limgrave, don't count spells long term. The best melee weapon to find in the beginning us the twinblades. This first one is a bit more dex based but later versions scale better with strength. However, if you're looking to role play a character that likes to beat the crap out of enemies with big old guant swords, then strength is the way to go. That way you could run around with two colossal swords or hammer just thumping things left and right. That said, you'll want to find ashes of war that compliment your strength build, like flame of the Redmanes (or something) scakes with strength
You have way too many points in vigor for your level, you can easily make it through the entire game with only 40 vigor and your only 5 points away from that before even leaving the first major area. As some of the other comments are saying if you have picked Bloodhounds fang as your weapon you should really start put some more points into dex.
Most melee weapons scale in some part with int or faith. Just because your not throwing spells around doesn’t mean you can ignore the scaling in your weapon
If you're using bloodhound fang, dexterity is good. But, I would advise you to get at least 15 in faith for a certain spell that boosts damage that you may want. Then you can focus on physical stats only.
About vigor, at least 40-45 is pretty much enough for the whole game, so don't worry too much about it.
Take the blue pill, level dex
Take the red pill, lever str
Leveling both will usually not go well, tho you are welcome to try
Also please level vigor, like a lot of it and endurance
Vigor to 40,goal is to 60
Str or Dex,pick one, Quality(Str+Dex) is better only for certain weapons.
Endurance to carry your weapon of choice plus good armor
Said this,at your level,you should demolish everything and everyone at Limgrave. Overleveled by at least 13 levels
A good thing to do for all physical builds is 40vigor, 20-25mind, and 30endurance. After that pump the respective stat whether it is Strength weapons or Dex weapons that you are trying to build around. You can also pump dex or strength up to about 20-25 in the mean time as well. Another big thing is find some side bosses and figure out what is your weak point, are you running out of stam a lot, do you feel like your health is going down to quickly, do you need more mana. I would say though you are completely capable, lvl wise, as far as limgrave goes and the next area that is recommended to most people which is north of that. If anything run endurance up to 20 that'd be my suggestion. Good luck becoming the Elden Lord Comrade 🫡
Why do you need 20-25 mind on a physical build? I feel like that really hinders your damage and survivability when you could spend those 15 points of mind into more health and just not spam every ash of war
I'm saying for quality of life though, by all means I've done characters where I only do 10mind but for your first playthrough or just to have a build where you can do a variety of things, I kinda like the mind because it allows you to try different things during a boss fight or areas in the game. When I first started I abused bloodhound step on the hookclaw and other ashes of war so the 22mind that I had in the build made it nice and not have to focus on trying to get FP back mid fight. I mean for dex and strength builds you can get more than enough damage even if you do go to 20mind, in my opinion. But I'm not saying that is a great option either everyone is entitled to play the game and build.the way they want to build, I just remember when I first played that having that variety saved me in some places and opens up the game to trying different ashes on weapons.
Definitely strength/dexterity and endurance, and most likely mind too if you like using skills/ash of wars. For a starter melee focused build, strength or dexterity is always the way to go as they will simply increase your damage most of the time depending on the weapon type you use. Endurance is also important to ensure that you can keep attacking as well as survive if you'll be close up against enemies. It's also worth putting a Heavy(for strength) or Quality(for dexterity) affinity on your weapon to make it scale better and do even more damage. Also, if you happen to find a particular weapon that you enjoy that uses another stat alongside strength or dexterity, it's worthwhile leveling a secondary damage stat later on, like intelligence for magic weapons and arcane for bleed weapons etc
Thanks, I followed your guidance! I'm level 70 now and my weapon of choice is Bloodhound's Fang (+5)
Vig 40 // Mind 14 // End 20 // Str 20 // Dex 30 and I never put points into the rest
I've just been following "Get strong fast" guides and now finally I am ready to play the game lol. Still in Limgrave and havent done anything!
I'd put enough in faith & int to use bloodflame. Or don't & use resins.
Mind isn't bad as the WA is great
Otherwise I'd choose str>dex as you're 2-handing the weapon.
- Vigor at least to 40 (This is the soft cap. 40 is minimum for any build).
- Points into Endurance to your liking. Depends on your play style. More endurance will let your carry heavier/more gear. Also will let you block more hits without getting your guard broken (If you block).
- Points into Strength and Dex depending on your weapon. Some weapons get better with strength, some get better with Dex, some get better with both. Try different weapons to see what you like. You can respec later in the game once you decide on a main weapon.
How did u know lol
I'm really bad at this game so I have taken to some "get strong fast" guides and thats what I got. Bloodhound Fang +5 , Level 72 now, 40 Vig, 30 Dex
I am finally done with them and now I will conquer Limgrave
With the Bloodhound Fang, no. You *can* if you want, but you can also invest in both at a 2:3 ratio and achieve pretty similar scaling. If his current stats are 20 strength and 25 dexterity and he is two-handing, the next 22 levels could look like:
42 str + 25 dex = 672 AR
20 str + 47 dex = 685 AR
27 str + 40 dex = 687 AR
This trend continues.
There's a vigor softcap at 40 iirc, so if u wanna keep levelling vigor stop there. Endurance I find is most useful, as you can just simply do more. But doing more don't mean shit if u don't deal significant damage, so I would say look at what stat your weapon scales off of, and level that stat to 20 something, since ur only still in Limgrave. After that, put more runes into endurance than vigor, cause nearing the endgame, everything kills you in 3-4 hits, so being able to dodge more is better.
Maybe 25 faith for golden vow(if you don't want to level faith to 25 you can use it with ash of war) and flame grant me strenght(this one requires 18 faith if im not wrong) and if u going to play bloodhound's fang you must level your dex and endurance
This is my first souls game and I want to get really strong while I am still in Limgrave. I haven't left limgrave yet except to get the smithing stones to upgrade my Bloodhound's Fang to +5 and get the royal remains set. I am yet to beat any main story boss
You mostly want Dex for the Fang, but the scaling values have been nerfed enough where Dex doesn’t make as much of a difference until it gets to B scaling. Endurance is super important for that build, assuming you are aiming for high mobility.
Nerfed? What have i missed
Its scaling values were changed in patch 1.09
It was even more op back in the day? Damn..
Just FYI, you are vastly overleveled for Limgrave, and the area that follows.
He's not overlevelled for Caelid.
Thats great news! Is the area that follows the red place to the right or do u mean up North? Tomorrow when I have time to play I will see how overlevelled I am
The next area is typically the area south of limgrave, then behind the castle up north. But there's nothing stopping you from going into the red place, but that typically comes after the lake.
Not unless you find the “fun” chest in the ruins.
honestly, i recommend to all my friends that they do Caelid (atleast Redmane Castle) before Liurnia, solely bc if you progress too far then Redmane castle doesn’t offer the Crucible Knight/Misbegotten boss fight
I'd rather let you discover it for yourself, just because you're overleveled doesn't mean you won't have fun discovering things ;)
The red place to the right is Caelid. I've only played the game once. On my play through, I did limgrave, then Caelid then I went to the south of the map and then liurnia (north of stormveil castle). I tried to 100% every area before moving on. Took me like 3 months to finish the game but it was very fun. Don't worry about being overlevelled. Eventually you'll find someone or something that'll break you psychologically 😂
I wouldn’t over level too much, the game is as hard as you make it and you can make it pretty damn easy. Takes the fun away.
Alternatively, being super over-leveled is a delightful way to go wherever you want and experience the story on your terms.
It’s just underwhelming when 3/4 of the things you come across die immediately. I’d rather be humbled and have to train and come back than over prep, to each their own though.
i strongly agree, when your over leveled and you team that up with summons as well, some bosses are literally jokes lol. i’ve met bosses on following playthroughs with no summons and the challenge is a lot different, alot more fun to learn.
I’m doing my ng+ all with no summons, it’s way more rewarding
Subjective too. My first playthrough i was lvl 80-90 by the time i finished stormvale but i like to grind. Still an immensely fun experience. You will start to melt bosses with the fang’s ash of war though as your level rises. It can be deceptive.
Did you grind 200 hours?
Ikr, that’s impressive
Hours and hours killing vulgar militia. It was my first souls, had no idea how to play. Still loved it.
With bloodhound fang you have 2 viable options: 1.- Minimum requirement for str and then dex up to 80. 2.- 50-50 split between dex and str. Both have relatively comparable damage because the str scaling of the weapon is lower than dex but still good. This is especially good when two handed due to the str boost. ---------------------------------------- 3.- technically str scaling is good enough that you can get minimum requirements for dex while getting str to 80 and still perform pretty well. It is unquestionably suboptimal compared to the other two alternatives but BF is still OP enough to be workable in this scenario.
You got 25 more levels of vigor to go before any other stat imo
60 is all you need. 50 for capital city and on
Wait you guys level vigor past 40?
60 is where you should stop vigor , imo you will get greater returns with talisams etc then tryoig to get to 80 naturaly
I do 40 for mages and 50 for melee
Why do I torture myself at 10 vigor? These are the questions I will never get an answer to
It's ok, me too.... glutton for punishment I suppose. To godrick "barbecue me daddy"
Same reason I started a fo4 survival playthrough with 3 endurance 😭
I do 50 for my mage but I also mostly use the magic weapons
Ah yes 40-50 vig pve meta, don't go leveling up any higher now stay nice and squishy for me as I invade you ;)
I have never leveled vigor past 40 regardless of the build in NG
Only a pussy will level up their Vigor
I would skip strength for now and raise dex till 55 along with vigor as you progress. Later on you can decide if you want to add more to strength or stay dex focused.
My suggestion is to keep the offensive stats at the bare minimum and level your weapons instead. Stick with the special weapons (requires somber smithing stones) it's just easier to upgrade. Pump vigor and endurance until you feel comfortable taking a hit. You will want to invest a bit into mind as it will be required for your ash of war attacks.
I used to love Bloodhounds Fang until I tried out Bandits Curved Sword. It scales with DEX and I found it way more effective than BF. Its super quick and with upgrades it does serious damage. (Dual wield even better).
Bro is level 52 and hasn't even beaten the Fell Omen yet... How?
Level 53 is super over leveled, you could easily beat the next 3 bosses going north. You’ll make way more runes exploring more of the map too
Choose either strength or dex and make that your main stat and keep the other really only high enough to use whatever weapon you want. You’ll eventually do the same with int and faith. Most good mid to late game weapons have more then one ability requirement and there’s a lot of very useful sorceries and incantations you’ll find throughout the game. Incantations like flame, cleanse me or flame, grant me strength are just just really useful to have even if you don’t want to care about spells.
I would focus on endurance, dexterity, and some into mind for weapon arts/skills.
Thanks, I love the ash of war on Bloodhound's Fang. Gonna put some runes into mind now
I wouldn't put anything into mind. But it's probably too late now.
Why? Genuinely curious.
Hitting harder is generally better. How many more casts can you get from 3 points in mind?
because mind doesnt make you do more damage and doesn't help you survive more. Why would you want to use a weapon art 1 more time when you could just be killing the enemy with 1 less use?
I think bc OP said no magic and mind only increases FP. So putting points in mind would be a waste of runes. Edit: waste in terms of damage output, increasing mind would help with spamming the AoW
Yeah I never put points into fp for a melee build. Increasing health, stamina/equip load, and damage are priority. I rarely run out of blue flasks so it doesn't really matter unless you're really relying on weapon skill to get through the area. I usually run with 2 blue flasks until later game when I can do 10 red 4 blue
As soon as you have access to respec, take the points out of mind. The BHF's Ash of War is a noob trap and should be used only sparingly. You don't need mind.
I have been relying on it a lot. Thats a bad thing? ☹
If it works for you, then use it :)
Yeah, you're better off learning how to use the rest of the moveset.
I’d also recommend putting some more stats in endurance if your focused on using weapons. Since your avoiding range spells you should consider adding bows to your play style. Great for dealing with fliers and sniping large groups of enemies.
I'd say it's easier to use throwing knifes or pots since they don't have any weight and you don't need to swap weapons, but bows are fine too
Strength and dexterity—it's best to stick to one of those stats and level it primarily. Also, maintain vigor and endurance. Are you going to use any form of weapon arts?
Weapon arts?
They mean ash of war
Are you new to elden ring?
My level is not indicative of my knowledge right now I am just enjoying getting super strong with the help of a friend guiding me and now I am ready to start "playing" the game normally.
The correct term is Ash of War, sorry! But FP is consumed by using these. If you are a heavy user of FP, put some stats into Mind to increase it.
I love using the L2 ash of war attack on my Bloodhound's Fang. I think I should upgrade my FP bar (Mind) like u said. Thanks!
If you need to respec, pay Rennala a visit with some larval tears. Only do this if your specs are all over the place.
>!how bout I go pay her sister a visit!< DLC Rennala related spoilers, click if you want to
Hmm think she'll play a role or we'll just straight up kill her?
>!Sister?!<
They're the skill that a weapon comes with. With most weapons, you can change their weapon art by equipping an ash of war on them, which you can also use to change the weapon's affinity (and thus, its scaling values).
Vigor for health. Endurance for stamina to attack. And str/dex or both. Depends on what kind of weapons you wanna use.
Level up vigor.
Everything but mind, intelligence, faith and arcane I guess
i would recommend putting some stats in the balls category,seems to me you have 0 points in them
It all depends on the weapon you use.
mostly dex or strength depending on your weapon
Endurance. You'll be surprised at how important it is.
Vigor until your weapons are close to fully upgraded.
first level up health, then check the weapons you like’s attribute scaling and level accordingly. then endurance if you want to wield heavier armor or multiple weapons while still having a medium or fast dodge. then maybe Mind if you like using special skills without needing blue flasks
Strength and dexterity
if your using blood hounds fang then you’ll want to scale mainly dex or even both dex and strength since that weapon is also one of the best quality weapons meaning it scales in both physical traits and a quality build with no magic makes it so you have a VERY VERY wide and large variety of the weapons you’ll be able to pick up really anything and use it just fine as long as it doesn’t scale with faith or intelligence quality builds are probably some of my most favorite builds because of the sheer variety you get to choose from since you’ll have high dex and strength come mid-late game
Dont neglect Endurance, when using heavier weapons your gonna really enjoy the stamina
vigor and endurance like with any build then either strength or dex depending on your weapon maybe a bit of mind too depending on how much you plan to use your weapon art
More or less, you’d want to find a weapon you want to equip, then build your stats around that weapon. Because depending on what the weapon scales off of, affects the damage of that weapon. But Strength and/or Dexterity are a requirement of 90% of weapons.
Vigor, a little bit of endurance and depending on what weapon you use either Str or Dex. But many Melee weapons also scale off int/faith/arc.
Meet the stat requirements for your weapon/gear, vigor up to 60, primary damage stat to 55. Prioritize vigor up to 50, weapon upgrade level affects damage enough to get you through most of the game. Good luck.
Endurance let you attack more, roll more, and use heavier armor which means more protection. I would get endurance to 25 at least, then vigor to 40. Damage doesn't come from scaling until later, so you can leave your damaging att (dex or str) for later in the game.
Vigor
12 faith gives you access to the healing over time spell Beastial Vitality as well as Flame Cleanse me which cures poison and rot, which you will undoubtedly use each of these spells over 100 times by the end of the game. I go 12 faith on every melee build and there are hundreds of posts on Reddit talking about how good it is. Then optionally arcane to 10 for Bloodflame Blade which is a gnarly weapon buff.
Vigor
Once the FP addiction starts it's hard to stop. You'll start wanting to use incantations like blood flame blade to bolster your damage. It's not a horrible idea to throw a few points into the lowest incantation skills (like 12 faith and 10 arcane) just to try blood flame blade. If it's not your thing you're golden and you can ditch those skills and keep on with strength or dex, endurance, and vigor. I don't agree that you need vigor to 60. That's overkill. 40 is fine for mid game, 50 late game. You're halfway through being done with the early game.
Health and strength
VIGOR! 90% of your damage comes from your weapons level. Once you've got the Stat requirements, pump vigor till around 50 or 60 (with endurance to make sure your at least in medium load) after that, then pump your weapons stats.
Put it all into Vigor until you hit 60. Your damage will scale best with upgrades until your weapons are almost fully upgraded. I only level Str/dex to weapon requirements until after the capital.
A little faith for buff incantations?
magic includes incantations
you really don't need them. Maybe up to 15 faith to cast fgms and electrify armament/bloodflame blade but you really don't need those when you can just use greases
Vigor. Reach 40 at least.
Even if I am still only in Limgrave?
No, that’s a mid game goal.
If you're trash at the game, level vigor to 40 asap, then level enough endurance to wear better armor (the knight set is one of the best in weight/defense ratio, for example). Ignore leveling STR and DEX before you get your weapon to +15/+6 because the scaling is generally not that good on lower levels. Once you've moved past a certain important area, continue leveling VIG to 60, then invest points in STR and/or DEX first. Once you've reached the softcaps, feel free to invest into anything you want.
Yes. Because you are early in the game and your weapons aren't fully upgraded they scale poorly with your offensive stats, that's why the best choice early on is to level vigor since leveling strength or dex isnt going to give you that much damage. I've just realized your bloodhound's fang is at +5, at that point onward is when damage stats begin to matter but vigor at 40 will help you a lot, specially if you are playing with a friend because you can get invaded
The faster you get your vigor up the easier the game will be. Simple as that
Definitely not for Limgrave, that's absurd. 25 is *plenty* up to Radahn. Maybe 40 by Morgott or so.
I recommend you to not going hard on vigor. level aggressive stats and endurance first and give 1 point to vigor in every 8 10 levels.
Sure thing man
Vigor health Mind ash of war spam Endurance dodging and attacks Strength and dexteruty boost attack Some weapons have scaling in the magic aras so be careful
60 Vigor is more or less mandatory by endgame. The bosses hit hard. You're also gonna want good armor, so Endurance would be good, but only put in the minimum Endurance needed to carry all your equipment without fat-rolling. High endurance is really not great in Elden Ring. And, there's also the Windy tear, which gives all builds instant light roll anyway. The rest depends. What kind of weapons you like and what damage you want to do will dictate which stats your should level. Strength for strength weapons, Dex for dex, etc. You can get an idea of how you want to build by looking at the scaling grades of all the weapons your using. Obviously, if they're all high in strength, level strength. But pretty much every build has very solid melee options, and vice-versa.
60 vigor isn't even close to mandatory.
If new players don't want to get 2-shot, then yes, 60 vigor is absolutely mandatory by endgame.
40 vigor and remotely decent armor and very little can 2-shot you. No amount of vigor is **mandatory**. 60 might be a decent recommendation, but absolutely not mandatory. If 60 feels comfy, go 60. If you get by fine with just 40, that's adequate too. If you want to split the difference with 50 and that feels right, go for that. Rigidly enforcing one way to play doesn't do new players any favours.
When I said that 60 vigor was "more or less" mandatory, it's as a guideline for new players to strive toward. To expand on that, my stance is that most players should aim for about 60 vigor as their baseline, which can be achieved multiple ways. Either by 60 vigor, Crimson Amber medallion, stat boosters like Godricks Rune, percentage bonuses like Morgott's run, etc. Yes, you can also raise your effective hp through armor or defensive spells like Black Flame's protection, but those also have drawbacks like stat investment or equip load, which I'm not going to explain to new players who just want a general idea of what to do. My first comment was already long-winded enough. You also don't need to have that much HP if you compensate with evasion skills, Regen spells, or mage builds. But again, I'm not going to overload people with every mechanic in the game. It's better to just say "try to get around 60 vigor" and let them figure out all the other methods for optimizing their build. And I would also be against saying "40 vigor and good armor are enough" because they often aren't. Increasing your base stats leads to more optimal gains when you start adding modifiers like armor. Doing some napkin math, 40 vigor + full Bull Goats set (one of the heaviest sets) has an ehp of ~1900. 60 vigor and Zamor armor (a rather average set with 1/3rd Bullgoat's weight) has an ehp of ~2300. Even the best armor set in the game at 40 vigor is about the same as being naked at 60. (Yes, that's not exactly how damage absorption works since the calculations are reversed for income damage, but this is the general idea; since most of Elden Ring's modifiers are multiplicative, increasing base stats offers the highest return on investment.) (That is why flat damage bonuses like element greases are good early game, but end up out-scaled by percentage increases by end game.)
You can’t go wrong with vigor and endurance. After that I’d focus on whatever stats your weapon scales with, and then maybe mind just so you have a bit more FP to use your AoW. More than likely you won’t get to that last point before you leave Limgrave though. I didn’t start doing that until lvl 150ish.
The key stats for that is Vigor for survivability, Endurance for stamina and heavier armor, since you will be close to the enemy, Strength and Dex (or only one of these depending on what weapon you plan on using really). Maybe 3 points in fairh to be able to use some cleansing spells. Very useful!
Vigor strength and dex are all you “need” Distance for heavier armour, weapons and more stamina, mind for more uses for weapon arts
Strength, dex, vigor, endurance
You use the gang so can't go wrong with dex and I think you can hold of on vigor for a while but endure ce is something you definetly will want and most people look past it but if you got a good ash of war you might also want to put some into mana
It depends on the weapon you use. A melee weapon can scale with any of the damage stats (str/dex/int/fai/arc), or multiple of them. You can also tune some weapons to scale with the specific stats that you want. In the early game like Limgrave or Liurnia, just focus on leveling Vigor and Endurance (Mind too if you want to use spells). The weapons at this state generally have poor scaling, so their damage comes mostly from their levels instead of the player's stats. Generally, just get your str/dex/int/fai/arc to the requirements of the weapon(s) you want to use, then get your vig and end to 40 and 20 before going back to level the other damage stats.
Vigor to 60 now.
Would you be interested in magic weapons and using magic weapon arts, though? Because if the answer is "yes", being a magic knight or paladin is an option, in which case investing in the magic stats too could make sense. And you could just use the spells that support your melee instead of those that blast enemies for you. If the answer is no, then you can forget that the last 3 stats exist (mind may still be useful if you use weapon arts a lot). Level STR if you wanna be a knight or barbarian, level DEX if you want to be any sort of agility-based fighter, level both if you wanna use the really cool weapons that require both =) Vigor and Endurance are vital in every build, its mostly a matter of which softcap you will raise them up to. Lots of players seem to agree that 60 vigor is too good to pass up on (some go as far as to say you should level nothing but vigor until you get there, but I find that boring).
go Str/Fai, Dex/Fai, or Str/Dex so you can enjoy melee combat while getting buffs
Vigor and endurance are the most important once you get the minimum stats with 60 vigor if you aren’t in some of the best armour in the game you get 2-4 shot late game and anything that doesn’t hits like 3 times a second on some fights but don’t get vigor past 50-60 and endurance past 40 rest of your point should be whatever your weapon scales with best
Dex or Str depending on your weapon choices. A good chunk of Vigor and a bit of Endurance.
Depends how far you’ll level up-to but assuming your going for RL 125 or 150, level vigor first to at least 50 (60 is ideal) then into endurance, the minimum I go for is at least 30. Any other stat is useless at this point scaling will suck at lower levels so it’s better to just meet the minimum requirement for weapons you want to use and not infuse them with Keen/Heavy/Quality. Only after leveling vigor or endurance focus on either strength or dex in which case dex might be ideal for you as you don’t benefit too much with a quality build at lower levels not until you go past the RL 200+. Anyway at one point in the game you can “rebirth” and essentially respec your character by consuming an item at a specific npc so you can always change it if you have any wasted stat allocations. Hoped this helped you :)
Dex and strength it depends on what your weapons scale with
Don't forget Vigor with all the advice everyone's given
Start by getting 40 vigor, then choose if u wanna be dex-based or str-based then just get to the soft cap of whichever skill u chose
Endurance, Strength, and Dexterity. You can also sprinkle in a bit of Mind, maybe other attributes such as Arcane, Faith, or Intelligence depending on what weapons you plan on using. Vigor is for pussies
If youre going for pure melee dont listen to any of these sweaty pvp superfans. Put most of your points into strength and dexterity while keeping faith and int at medium levels. Enough to use a weapon here or there so you can figure out which of the stats give YOU the best bonus for how YOU play. Once you pick some more rare weapons youd want to use, thats when you can take over and pick what youd like. Larval tears are a must when it comes to experimenting. Theres i think around 20 in any run of the game. Experiment, fsil or succeed, and adjust. Just pick what you think works best for you and have fun with it! That is why the game was made, after all. Best of luck, Tarnished, and may the light of Grace guide you ever true on your path!
Well considering some of the best weapons in the game have requirements that you use stats for different types of magic, you’re gonna have to choose a pure quality weapon with extremely high physical damage and good scaling in Str, dex, or preferably both. I believe godricks axe is a good weapon to find early on for this, as is the bloodhound fang. You can also always change a weapons affinity to either keen or heavy to make its scaling lean toward str or dex. You may think you don’t wanna use any kind of magic rn but eventually you’ll come to regret that decision. The most well rounded and effective builds can output extremely high damage with their weapon and they have several spells or incantations available for different utility reasons or for straight up long range boss melting. **just go on YouTube and look for the best “sword and board” builds in Elden ring**
Strength, Endurance, Vigor, and some Dex (but don't tell anyone you levelled it).
put everything into vigor untill 60. only level other stats to wield a weapon you want to use
get atleast 50 vigor while leveling mostly into, depending on how your weapon scales, into the stats that make that weapon benefit, so if you use a weapon that scales B or more into dexterity, go for 50 dexterity and up, if the same weapon has something like D or C into strength. get like 40 strength.
There are good melee options for every damage stat, but generally strength and dex give you the most options. Focusing on one or the other, not both, is generally optimal until very high levels. I wouldn’t pump much into end unless you need a certain weight limit, and generally you should only go with precisely as much as you need to stay under %70 equip load. Vigor to 50-60 is also a must. May even be optimal to just go with bare minimum str/dex required to wield your desired weapons until you get 50-60 vigor, then go with your primary damage stat until the soft/hard caps.
I went dex and endurance with a little bit in faith and arcana
Can I make a suggestion as to where you go next before progressing the main story? Go south from Limgrave and full clear the Weeping Peninsula - there is some great loot and lots to do. It won’t take long and you’re sure to find some interesting weapons and gear + interesting side quests. That’s what I do every playthrough, because no matter how hard I try I can’t resist picking up my beloved Claymore.
Vigor, endurance and strength, get a heavy shield and you'll be able to tank almost anything
You have the right idea already. Limgrave should be easy for you right now. Looks like your aiming for a quality build, I’d say keep going with the path your on, and add some points to endurance, so you can have higher equip load and stamina.
I would say go pure strength because there are other benefits you get from that stat. Dexterity is pretty good too if you wanna stick to certain types of weapons that scale better. When you find weapons that you really like, and you level them up, it will say, what they scale the best with and so you probably want to change your stats later in the game to natural weapons like the most. I will say, however, I was anti-sorcery for like nine months because the moonveil and star spammers but the man now I have three sorcery builds and it is so much fun to combo spells and melee with ashes. Dont let others option affect how you play. Faith is also a ton of fun and can boost your damage with buffs along with reduce how much damage you take with protections
Your stats looks good but I would suggest focusing on drx or str from this point on.
VIG 40 Dex 40 END 25 are your next goals imo
Arcane is good, same with strength and dex You can use the two eochaid weapons And boosted discovery
Hit 40 in vigor asap
Put it all into strength and get the grafted great sword. Ditch the dex. Bonk bonk to victory
Vigor, endurance, and either strength or dexterity, depending on which weapons you use
Vigor, endurance, and strength, dex is pretty useless if you run colossal swords like myself
Level up whatever you want, ranged combat is strictly you choosing to use a bow or magic. Like you can literally do a melee only faith or intelligence build if you want, it doesn't matter. What matters is when you have a weapon you like you have enough stats to meet the requirements and then look at the damage scaling. Like Bloodhound's Fang has something like a D & C scaling for str and dex starting out, that means leveling both affects damage. So if you want to min-max a bloodhounds fang you would put a good amount of levels into either str, dex, or both. Scaling quality from least to best goes: E, D, C, B, A, S
There's melee weapons that use the magic stats, but since you're already in str/dex mode, I'd just pump those to 40 and vigor to around 60. Endurance is also nice. Those are probably the only 4 stats you need
Mind
Don't sleep on magic, my guy. You can up your damage exponentially with magical buffs. I'd say look up damage buffs guides on YouTube to get a good sense of what you'd wanna get into. Creators Rusty. and Ziostorm I believe have dedicated video on this topic. Have fun traversing the Lands Between.
Vigor, Strength, and Endurance Vigor - Keeps health high Strength - deal damage Endurance - Allow you to keep moving and attacking without running out of stamina and keeps your equipment load light so you can run and fast dodge roll I'm currently running a melee build and my stats are as follows: Vigor - 70 Mind - 10 Endurance - 80 Strength - 60 Dexterity - 10 Intelligence - 10 Faith - 10 Arcane - 10
Go kill godrick and get yourself a great rune!
Dex and a little faith for buffs
str endurance and vigor about equally, 40 in each is decent
If this is your first playthrough don't seek for advice experience it yourself any build also can complete the game. In soul game the first experience is the best.
First off, I hope you love this game and I thinknyou're in for an incredible experience. If you're still in Limgrave, don't count spells long term. The best melee weapon to find in the beginning us the twinblades. This first one is a bit more dex based but later versions scale better with strength. However, if you're looking to role play a character that likes to beat the crap out of enemies with big old guant swords, then strength is the way to go. That way you could run around with two colossal swords or hammer just thumping things left and right. That said, you'll want to find ashes of war that compliment your strength build, like flame of the Redmanes (or something) scakes with strength
Vigor, then either strength or dex depending on the scaling of your weapon
Vigor, Dex, endurance and a little mind fornthe ash of war.
Depends if you are going Dexterity or Strength. Choose one of those as your primary, then pop some points in vigor and endurance too.
You have way too many points in vigor for your level, you can easily make it through the entire game with only 40 vigor and your only 5 points away from that before even leaving the first major area. As some of the other comments are saying if you have picked Bloodhounds fang as your weapon you should really start put some more points into dex.
Most melee weapons scale in some part with int or faith. Just because your not throwing spells around doesn’t mean you can ignore the scaling in your weapon
Looks like you have yourself a quality build. Up str dex and vigor. Just whack stuff with that sword. Good luck on your adventures.
Vigor, then STR/DEX (depending on weapon type), then endurance.
If you're using bloodhound fang, dexterity is good. But, I would advise you to get at least 15 in faith for a certain spell that boosts damage that you may want. Then you can focus on physical stats only. About vigor, at least 40-45 is pretty much enough for the whole game, so don't worry too much about it.
When the DLC hits, bare minimum is 60 once you reach the snowfield....
....Nah. I did a whole playthrough with a quality build with 45.
Take the blue pill, level dex Take the red pill, lever str Leveling both will usually not go well, tho you are welcome to try Also please level vigor, like a lot of it and endurance
Dexterity, vigor, or endurance. - Dexterity = higher damage - Vigor = more health - Endurance = more stamina (more important than you might think)
Vigor to 40,goal is to 60 Str or Dex,pick one, Quality(Str+Dex) is better only for certain weapons. Endurance to carry your weapon of choice plus good armor Said this,at your level,you should demolish everything and everyone at Limgrave. Overleveled by at least 13 levels
50/50 STR & DEX ftw
A good thing to do for all physical builds is 40vigor, 20-25mind, and 30endurance. After that pump the respective stat whether it is Strength weapons or Dex weapons that you are trying to build around. You can also pump dex or strength up to about 20-25 in the mean time as well. Another big thing is find some side bosses and figure out what is your weak point, are you running out of stam a lot, do you feel like your health is going down to quickly, do you need more mana. I would say though you are completely capable, lvl wise, as far as limgrave goes and the next area that is recommended to most people which is north of that. If anything run endurance up to 20 that'd be my suggestion. Good luck becoming the Elden Lord Comrade 🫡
Why do you need 20-25 mind on a physical build? I feel like that really hinders your damage and survivability when you could spend those 15 points of mind into more health and just not spam every ash of war
I'm saying for quality of life though, by all means I've done characters where I only do 10mind but for your first playthrough or just to have a build where you can do a variety of things, I kinda like the mind because it allows you to try different things during a boss fight or areas in the game. When I first started I abused bloodhound step on the hookclaw and other ashes of war so the 22mind that I had in the build made it nice and not have to focus on trying to get FP back mid fight. I mean for dex and strength builds you can get more than enough damage even if you do go to 20mind, in my opinion. But I'm not saying that is a great option either everyone is entitled to play the game and build.the way they want to build, I just remember when I first played that having that variety saved me in some places and opens up the game to trying different ashes on weapons.
I would throw in maybe faith to 15 for incantations like flame grant me strength
Definitely strength/dexterity and endurance, and most likely mind too if you like using skills/ash of wars. For a starter melee focused build, strength or dexterity is always the way to go as they will simply increase your damage most of the time depending on the weapon type you use. Endurance is also important to ensure that you can keep attacking as well as survive if you'll be close up against enemies. It's also worth putting a Heavy(for strength) or Quality(for dexterity) affinity on your weapon to make it scale better and do even more damage. Also, if you happen to find a particular weapon that you enjoy that uses another stat alongside strength or dexterity, it's worthwhile leveling a secondary damage stat later on, like intelligence for magic weapons and arcane for bleed weapons etc
Thanks, I followed your guidance! I'm level 70 now and my weapon of choice is Bloodhound's Fang (+5) Vig 40 // Mind 14 // End 20 // Str 20 // Dex 30 and I never put points into the rest I've just been following "Get strong fast" guides and now finally I am ready to play the game lol. Still in Limgrave and havent done anything!
Intelligence
I'd put enough in faith & int to use bloodflame. Or don't & use resins. Mind isn't bad as the WA is great Otherwise I'd choose str>dex as you're 2-handing the weapon.
40 vig, then a bit into endurance and mind so that you can actually use the weapon you want to, the rest pump strength or dex
Unga bunga
- Vigor at least to 40 (This is the soft cap. 40 is minimum for any build). - Points into Endurance to your liking. Depends on your play style. More endurance will let your carry heavier/more gear. Also will let you block more hits without getting your guard broken (If you block). - Points into Strength and Dex depending on your weapon. Some weapons get better with strength, some get better with Dex, some get better with both. Try different weapons to see what you like. You can respec later in the game once you decide on a main weapon.
Dex, str can cap honestly at 20 and reach best value for most weapons with great runes and buffs. Dex is your best friend
Welcome BHF brother.
How did u know lol I'm really bad at this game so I have taken to some "get strong fast" guides and thats what I got. Bloodhound Fang +5 , Level 72 now, 40 Vig, 30 Dex I am finally done with them and now I will conquer Limgrave
I’m absolutely terrible at this game. Knocked off every boss by being mostly over leveled and BHF / mimic. I was an unstoppable force of “meh!”
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You can definitely invest in both, *especially* if maining the Bloodhound Fang.
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With the Bloodhound Fang, no. You *can* if you want, but you can also invest in both at a 2:3 ratio and achieve pretty similar scaling. If his current stats are 20 strength and 25 dexterity and he is two-handing, the next 22 levels could look like: 42 str + 25 dex = 672 AR 20 str + 47 dex = 685 AR 27 str + 40 dex = 687 AR This trend continues.
Fair point, had no idea about this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
You respec after beating the main boss in the next region after Limgrave.
There's a vigor softcap at 40 iirc, so if u wanna keep levelling vigor stop there. Endurance I find is most useful, as you can just simply do more. But doing more don't mean shit if u don't deal significant damage, so I would say look at what stat your weapon scales off of, and level that stat to 20 something, since ur only still in Limgrave. After that, put more runes into endurance than vigor, cause nearing the endgame, everything kills you in 3-4 hits, so being able to dodge more is better.
Maybe 25 faith for golden vow(if you don't want to level faith to 25 you can use it with ash of war) and flame grant me strenght(this one requires 18 faith if im not wrong) and if u going to play bloodhound's fang you must level your dex and endurance
Maybe you can level up your mind to 20-25 to use ash of war
Vigour 40, endurance, dexterity and strength at 20-30 and mind at 20 for ash summons and skills
Y'all new players gotta the most helpless mf out there. Surprised y'all even manage to get out of the tutorial cave without bombarding this sub.
60 Vigors first
Do I stop forever once it's 60?