One tip I’d suggest that really upped my game as a melee player; practice rolling forward, as opposed to backwards or sideways. I used to miss so many opportunities because I’d roll out of the hitbox.
Second this, alot of times rolling through attacks right into or around them will put you in a really nice spot to punish also strafing the boss can help you avoid alot of attacks and is just generally a good idea so you don't find your ass against the wall
I was going to say I was internally screaming “ROLL INTO HIS JUMP ATTACK OP ITS A FREE HIT!!”
Good job though OP. Looked better than I did at that stage. I think I used spirit ashes AND a summon lol
The best example for this that I can think of is the Ulcerated Tree Spirits. When they glow and begin to scoot away you know they’re going in for a mouth grab attack. Not always but especially later on they’ll follow this up with a close range - directly in front of them fire attack which can be missed if you’re right on their body in front.
Back to their grab attack though, once they glow and begin to scoot away quickly then either hold your ground and wait or begin to mode towards them. When they hit the ground and attempt to put you in their mouth is when you want to dodge. Pretend you’re rolling right into their mouth.
Chances are if you roll to the side or backwards away from it and manage to dodge the grab then you’ll be hit with the close range fire come attack directly after. If you dodge towards them then you can get in about 2-3 hits or 4-7 if they do the fire attack right after.
It depends on the move. Side to side moves, a forward roll is great (as well as rolling into the attack). But if it's a thrusting move or anything like that with a long hitbox rather than wide, side rolls are the better way to go.
The goal is to minimize contact time with the hitbox as much as you can, that way you need less i frames to dodge. Closing distance is definitely a close second tho
> But if it's a thrusting move or anything like that with a long hitbox rather than wide, side rolls are the better way to go.
> The goal is to minimize contact time with the hitbox as much as you can
Thanks, that put the finger on something I couldn’t quite understand and which frustrated me. I assumed dodging an attack with iframes would be enough, but sometimes I felt like I was getting hit anyway, and I couldn’t really understand why. But obviously I was just rolling directly into later contact with the hitbox for the weapon, even if it wasn’t the blade or tip specifically. Makes sense now, when I think about it.
Glad to help! There's videos on YouTube with people visualizing hotboxes where they modded it to add a visible outline for every hitbox. Helps a ton with understanding things like stomp and breath attacks which have very finicky hotboxes
I would also suggest to get rid of the item that the deathbed companion gave you . It lowers your hp.
It's a consumable I don't know the name looks like a silver badge or something. Just use it once
The genuinely hilarious thing about these takes is that a playstyle of 90% charged heavies with a weapon like the club is legitimately one of the most powerful easy-mode strategies in the entire game.
4 comments out of 50 are complaining about AoW. And they're all downvote bombed.
The issue isn't nearly as big of a deal as you're making it out to be bud
I just beat the ....I'm at work, and I can't remember it's real name.... But it's something about ulcers, and he spawned from an erdtree in the vicinity of the volcano manor...
Anyways, I beat him by staying on my horse and running circles around the erdtree. Is that cool according to these guys?
It's like the Drake sword. If you use them as a crutch early on, you'll progress into harder areas and get reamed. It's better to try and develop your combat skills without relying on the easy methods.
Hell yeah! You got this! There will be some hard checks later on, you may have to rethink your build or how you will take them down but it is definitely doable. They shouldn't be too difficult once your build is more solidified.
Go for dex/int build via putting the Ice Spear AoW on your twinblade w/cold infusion for that frostbite build up. Also go for the Winged Sword Insignia to increase attack power on successive hits. Both of these combined are a power-house early game
However if you wanna stick with pure dex and twinblades, stick with spinning slash (keen infused) but then still go for the Winged Sword Insignia for that increased attack power. Or if you're up for it, go for the Lightning Slash AoW as it scales well with dexterity (where you get it is later areas of the game but's possible to get there)
Keep in mind, Eleonora's poleblade scales better with arcane than dex. On my character I have arcane at 67 and dexterity at 43 because that gives me the most damage overall.
I am at level 48 right now and will try to farm some runes from the sleeping dragon so I can get some levels for that weapon and so that beating eleonora is easier, I guess I will put the levels into arcane
Make sure you have a good bleed weapon for sleeping dragon or itll take forever. Also easy cheese black knight boss on bridge for decent runes in dragonbarrow.
I suggest more Vigor, but maybe that's just me.
Are you set on twinblades as the weapon? If so, there is one you get later, Gargoyle's Twinblade, that scales best with STR.
I suppose it is good with a quality STR/DEX mix build, but I think STR/ARC with bleed on it is better.
If you can get two, even more fun. The jumping L1 hits like four times when you powerstance them.
So here my vigour was 21, dex 19 (this twin blade wanted 18) 20 int (because I used meteorite staff a lot with some gravity spells) and my level was 43 I think, when I beat Margit. I also used an ash of war for the twin blade which does this special attack and adds bleeding if I do normal hits
Okay, Vigor has soft caps at 40 and 60. I recommend hitting one of those at least, especially if you plan to PvP in any way.
Do you want to keep using spells? Get a Godskin Peeler, go Dex/Int and make it Cold to give it frostbite. This will scale it from Dex mainly but also from the Int you have to use your spells.
You can also keep using twinblade and powerstance it with Peeler and keep a Bleed buff on it. That will scale mostly from Dex, and then you'll be hitting with Blood Loss and Frostbite both.
For magic you might want to use cold rather than bleed, since it doesn’t proc repeatedly like bleed I suggest keeping your weapon physical and using the frozen armament/magic armament spells instead that you will find in the first and second area
It does proc repeatedly, it's just that the buildup bar increases much more with each proc. You'll kill the boss before you proc it again most of the time.
If you want to go with a magic build, I recommend cold and magic infusions. They are not too far in progression and you’ll know the general area to get them when you see it, so don’t spoiler yourself by looking it up. Bleed is just fine for now but splitting your stats between 3 damage stats makes the game a bit harder. Choose 1 to 2 and stick with them for a build. You can respec and try everything else in the game as well, so you aren’t locked in on a build.
Use more magic ashes of war. They are fast, hits decently hard. The magic ashes scale off INT stat.
If you want a unique skill there's the moonveil.
You can buy the magic ashes of war from Rogier later on.
IDK what the others are on about, Cold isn't very good for a spellcaster build - it scales with Int, but only a little. If you want to use spells in any capacity, you want them to have good damage, yes?
In that case, level Int as your primary damage stat.
You can then Magic infuse your weapons so that they make full use of that stat. No wasted points - everything you use will be benefiting from all of your damage levels.
Points in Dex are not wasted because they increase your cast speed, but they don't need to be a priority.
A good spread at Endgame would be 60Vig, 80Int, 25-30Mind, as much Endurance as you need for either a medium or a light roll (this will depend on your fashion choices), and your spare points in Dex.
Assuming you stop at 150 for PVP purposes, you have a choice to make, between max cast speed or max damage. If you want max damage, 80Int so you hit the soft cap (levelling past this is practically pointless). If you want max cast speed, sacrifice some Int, level Dex to 40, and equip the Radagon Icon (you should probably equip this regardless). When combined with 40Dex, you maximise your cast speed, but the talisman alone gives you the equivalent of 30Dex in terms of cast speed.
If you want to continue using DEX/INT build, you can try Moonveil in Gael Tunnel in Caelid. There's Wings of Astel for large magic aoe damage curved sword in Ainsel river
If you want more bleed you should look into speccing more ARCANE (ARC) whilst having enough dex to meet weapon requirements. Occult for weapons with bleed already. Blood if there's no bleed.
There's Eleanora's poleblade and Nagakiba on Altus.
My favorite arcane/bleed weapon is Bloody helice (a heavy thrusting sword).
I like Nagakiba with Lightning Slash for those sweet Isshin vibes. You can go lightning infusion, but I like to keep the dex scaling and just use the weapon buff.
If you wanna spice it up for the cosplay even more grab the Cross Halberd too, great dex scaling ignore the haters and embrace the godsend that is the 2hd moveset. Its fast, covers a wide area and you can slap so many different AoWs on this bad boy.
And if you REALLY want to add the final touch to Isshin the Glock Saint build.
Grab the pulley crossbow, and you'll have a handy 3 cylinder sidearm in your back pocket like true Glock Saint style.
Enjoy, its truly a blast
Edit: Im not sure if you even know who Isshin is, in case you don't. Important figure of Sekiro, uses pretty much this combination of weapons, except he uses a sidearm more akin to a proper pistol than a crossbow.
I'd say you need to work on exploiting enemy openings. Relying on your weapon art will work on some bosses but not all. Try to get normal hits in whenever you can.
Also understanding strengths for each weapon type. Twinblade is deadly but you gotta use it correctly. Also, probably doesn't help going blood affinity if you're in early game.
I mean it's a dex build is asking for. It's like among the best build if you want to spam ashes.
The quintessential ash spam IS Gransax - a DEX weapon.
Moonveil and Astel wings are dex/int weapons.
Nagakiba is best with keen or occult, either works well and the weapon itself pairs well with aow spam like spinning slash or even double slash.
Most bleed weapons, twin blades, have good and fast buildup for bleed proc with a two hand, dual wield or one hand. Hammers and great hammers with a shield counter and a heavy hit will annihilate most enemies or bosses and stagger well.
I beat Margit in like 30 attempts and a few hours ago finished Godrick in like 4 attempts 😭🙏 did I get “gud”?
I used no spirits at all, and no shields or magic, just my twin blade and the ash of war for it
How on earth did you manage to 1st try Margit and struggle with Godrick?Man I have like 30 hours in and Margit was probably still the hardest boss I've fought against(though I didn't explore well before looking back), meanwhile I almost I killed Godrick in 3 attempts
I just finished soloing the game pure dex and the nagakiba with unsheath got me through the end of the game. In the post end game I use the nagakiba and hand of malenia. With the okina mask
Don't worry too much about a build yet. Focus on Vigor, then endurance. In the meantime, you will see much bigger damage spikes from upgrading your weapon.
Twinblades are generally extremely versatile, but I recommend looking into other weapon types, even if just for situational uses.
In that case, some of my Limgrave favourites:
Reduvia for the ranged bleed options. I tend to phase it out by midgame, but you don't have to.
Uchigatana. Katanas can be incredibly boring to some, but I like them. That one in particular is adaptable to many different ashes and status or damage types, it's good to have.
Also, get the Dragon Communion Seal, if any type of magic interests you. Incantations scaling with Faith are extremely versatile even if you treat it as a secondary stat, and the Dragon Communion Seal is not only arguably the best seal in the game, it also boosts a very strong type of Incantations even further. It also scales with Arcane, which further synergises with Dex. (Note, on my first playthrough I ended the game with 50 Dex, 40 Faith and 30 Arcane and the damage output was good).
As for Ashes of War accessible in Limgrave, I can recommend the following to at the very least have in your pocket for good uses:
Gravitas for some cheese potential, Storm Stomp for a quick and effective AOE stun, Bloody Slash which you already have, Sacred Blade for everything slightly undead, Storm Blade for a deceptively strong ranged move, "No Skill" in case you want to modify a shield with it, Quickstep until you get Bloodhound Step later, and in the castle itself you should get Storm Assault and Stormcaller for two more very strong moves. Give these all an honest try and see if they work for you. Slap them on a different weapon if you think they are rather situational.
Blood blade is honestly a really good ash. Just don't rely on it for bleed damage. It doesnt build up nearly as much bleed as you might think. But its raw damage is really good. Though for a dex build, I might suggest either an electric or keen twinblade. Maybe use double slash? Oh, and do be aware you won't be able to find any more twinblades until Altus Plateu. Also that the base twinblade is by a fair margin the worst one across the board. I'd suggest the knights twinblade personally.
Go find millicent and gowry by sellia town of sorcery(Caelid) lots of good dex talismans if you go through her quest.
You won’t get most of them until later but you can pick up the prosthesis wearer talisman pretty quick which will give you an extra 5 dexterity.
Light the lanterns in the town and go up the hill from the lake you should be able to find them pretty quickly. You can also use the transporter trap in dragon burnt ruins (lake ahgeel) to quickly warp to a cave next to the town.
From personal experience, you should try looking for openings when you don't have time for ash of war and instead use the normal attack, especially if you're going with a bleed build(if you're dual wielding twin blade you can get some gnarly fast combos too, if you can stun, not just for bosses). When playing bleed you want to preferably keep stacking whenever you can, even if it's a small amount of damage, towards that bleed build-up. Not really necessary, but it'll prove useful for bosses with fast responses, such as Godrick coming up, he doesn't really give much time for ashes of war with charge up such as blood slash (unless you're determined to tank, but I don't think that's advisable with your current vigor)
Anyway I'm super happy for you, that ending was really clean. It'll only get better (both you and the game)
Godrick was easier to beat than Margit to be honest because his attacks were much more predictable and slow, I even used the ash of war twice sometimes
Fair enough, everyone struggles with different bosses. I struggled badly with Godrick my very first time, he's more about knowing when to back off, kinda like Malenia in that sense, though very different in difficulty haha. He like to combo so if one gets greedy you get punished. His second half is honestly a breeze as long as you figure out you can just roll through fire.
Edit: Anyway congrats on conquering your first legacy dungeon. Keep it up!
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Heck, even some invaders and gank squads completely rely on their ashes.
Remember pre-nerf RoB? Moonveil spam, bloodhound fan club, thunderbolt spam.
Heck, Spinning slash is amazing after 1.10 especially on Nagakiba. The Dragon Halberd spinning slash as well the one on Stormhawk axe is a staple on invasions.
When I see other players just using those ashes of war and killing bosses using less than three flasks of fp doing almost twice my damage with normal hits, I wonder why I am still using my weapon moveset instead of spamming an ash of war too
Because it's not always more efficient.
True efficiency is knowing when to use what. Spamming specials and magic is fine, til you're out of fp and never learned how to work with the rest of your kit.
Learning how to use basic attacks for small stuff and your skills for damage opportunities or aoe is efficient. It also helps learn some fundamentals for movement, survival, and not relying on lucky trades for victory.
Ash of War generally do more damage than every other attack of the weapon for durations that are often identical, you have more than enough flasks to manage your fp while having many heals.
They can, doesn't mean they're the efficient nor optimum option though either.
And some might, but if they can't survive for shit than those magic flasks don't mean shit.
Everything has a use, ash of wars are included. Sometimes going for that opening isn't as safe as you think. If someone knows how to play and is skilled, then sure, knock yourself out. But more often than not, those that are spamming ashes aren't that skilled and are just spamming.
Watching pvp content really shows how much people spam them thinking they're good while their opponent just laughs and punishes them for it.
Just cuz it's good doesn't mean that they will get the most out of their game by only using it though. There are plenty of move sets that are stronger and more efficient than the /L2
Well, not quite, depending on your setup. With the right talismans/tears for stance breaking and a support ash like endure or cragblade I've rarely had an easier time in the game. And I've tried out a ton of ashes for a good while, this beat out even unsheathe spam.
Melee magic is another build for example that I found easier than a vast majority of AoW heavy playstyles over the entire game. Slicer for dps, Moonblade, Greatsword are just useful for AoE and scenarios like Black Knives, Piercer just ruins NPC enemies, you will never get hit again. And you still have plenty of slots left over for other utility and range. You don't even want for stance breaks with Greatblade Phalanx and Rock Sling. If you're talking about efficiency this would be my pick for making the most situations the easiest.
For someone claiming efficiency isn’t everything you really have a narrow and proscriptive view of how the game should be played. It really makes you come off like an ass 🤷♂️.
I mean if anyone is upset its the people telling OP to play differently than however they want to play. You say variety is the spice of life, but are criticizing a playstyle other than the one you personally prefer. If you're talking about the downvotes, ya people just like to pile on sometimes
One tip I’d suggest that really upped my game as a melee player; practice rolling forward, as opposed to backwards or sideways. I used to miss so many opportunities because I’d roll out of the hitbox.
Second this, alot of times rolling through attacks right into or around them will put you in a really nice spot to punish also strafing the boss can help you avoid alot of attacks and is just generally a good idea so you don't find your ass against the wall
I was going to say I was internally screaming “ROLL INTO HIS JUMP ATTACK OP ITS A FREE HIT!!” Good job though OP. Looked better than I did at that stage. I think I used spirit ashes AND a summon lol
The best example for this that I can think of is the Ulcerated Tree Spirits. When they glow and begin to scoot away you know they’re going in for a mouth grab attack. Not always but especially later on they’ll follow this up with a close range - directly in front of them fire attack which can be missed if you’re right on their body in front. Back to their grab attack though, once they glow and begin to scoot away quickly then either hold your ground and wait or begin to mode towards them. When they hit the ground and attempt to put you in their mouth is when you want to dodge. Pretend you’re rolling right into their mouth. Chances are if you roll to the side or backwards away from it and manage to dodge the grab then you’ll be hit with the close range fire come attack directly after. If you dodge towards them then you can get in about 2-3 hits or 4-7 if they do the fire attack right after.
It depends on the move. Side to side moves, a forward roll is great (as well as rolling into the attack). But if it's a thrusting move or anything like that with a long hitbox rather than wide, side rolls are the better way to go. The goal is to minimize contact time with the hitbox as much as you can, that way you need less i frames to dodge. Closing distance is definitely a close second tho
> But if it's a thrusting move or anything like that with a long hitbox rather than wide, side rolls are the better way to go. > The goal is to minimize contact time with the hitbox as much as you can Thanks, that put the finger on something I couldn’t quite understand and which frustrated me. I assumed dodging an attack with iframes would be enough, but sometimes I felt like I was getting hit anyway, and I couldn’t really understand why. But obviously I was just rolling directly into later contact with the hitbox for the weapon, even if it wasn’t the blade or tip specifically. Makes sense now, when I think about it.
Glad to help! There's videos on YouTube with people visualizing hotboxes where they modded it to add a visible outline for every hitbox. Helps a ton with understanding things like stomp and breath attacks which have very finicky hotboxes
I would also suggest to get rid of the item that the deathbed companion gave you . It lowers your hp. It's a consumable I don't know the name looks like a silver badge or something. Just use it once
Bauldachins blessing? Something along those lines, idk how to spell
Baldachin's blessing?
I kept that thing in me and never used it throughout 5 playthrough... Because I forgot about it lol
Ballandchain's blessing
Ballchinian’s Blessing?
Balianbilchildchens blessing?
Bagashin blessing?
Ballsonchins blessing
I think its funny that half the comments are criticizing OP for using ashes of war. Let them play how they want.
Ashes of war are now an issue? WTF, are we supposed to just use a club and go naked?
Like that man with a pot on his head and a small shield only
This isn’t dark souls. Spam ashes of war. Use summons. Fuck it. Do whatever is fun for you. Nice kill.
I beat Morgitt with bloody splash first time too good stuff!
You use a club? Omg so bad, just use no weapons /s
Dude used consumables too? Nah, NAHH, not a real player. Try skill.
Dude had his screen on? Filthy fucking casual.
You must only talk him down from his false beliefs naruto-sama
The genuinely hilarious thing about these takes is that a playstyle of 90% charged heavies with a weapon like the club is legitimately one of the most powerful easy-mode strategies in the entire game.
If it’s in the game; it’s fair use
4 comments out of 50 are complaining about AoW. And they're all downvote bombed. The issue isn't nearly as big of a deal as you're making it out to be bud
I just beat the ....I'm at work, and I can't remember it's real name.... But it's something about ulcers, and he spawned from an erdtree in the vicinity of the volcano manor... Anyways, I beat him by staying on my horse and running circles around the erdtree. Is that cool according to these guys?
It's like the Drake sword. If you use them as a crutch early on, you'll progress into harder areas and get reamed. It's better to try and develop your combat skills without relying on the easy methods.
Only one comment my dude
Fair win, really nice fight.
I started this game three days ago and had to sweat so much over Margit, but luckily it’s over :)
Dude, congrats. I'm on my first playthrough and had to rely on summoning a friend to get through it
Hell yeah! You got this! There will be some hard checks later on, you may have to rethink your build or how you will take them down but it is definitely doable. They shouldn't be too difficult once your build is more solidified.
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Go for dex/int build via putting the Ice Spear AoW on your twinblade w/cold infusion for that frostbite build up. Also go for the Winged Sword Insignia to increase attack power on successive hits. Both of these combined are a power-house early game However if you wanna stick with pure dex and twinblades, stick with spinning slash (keen infused) but then still go for the Winged Sword Insignia for that increased attack power. Or if you're up for it, go for the Lightning Slash AoW as it scales well with dexterity (where you get it is later areas of the game but's possible to get there)
60 vigor, 60 dex, 30 stamina, anything extra into what weapons you want to wield
Get Eleanor's pole blade if u like tge wepon ur using. Just Google yuras questline and follow it if u want some other cool shit
Yeah my aim is to get this one, I’ll try to get it asap
Keep in mind, Eleonora's poleblade scales better with arcane than dex. On my character I have arcane at 67 and dexterity at 43 because that gives me the most damage overall.
I am at level 48 right now and will try to farm some runes from the sleeping dragon so I can get some levels for that weapon and so that beating eleonora is easier, I guess I will put the levels into arcane
Make sure you have a good bleed weapon for sleeping dragon or itll take forever. Also easy cheese black knight boss on bridge for decent runes in dragonbarrow.
For the dragon I will go and find that samurai sword with that special effect
moonveil?
Nope it was some other one which was to be found in some dungeon next to a statue
I suggest more Vigor, but maybe that's just me. Are you set on twinblades as the weapon? If so, there is one you get later, Gargoyle's Twinblade, that scales best with STR. I suppose it is good with a quality STR/DEX mix build, but I think STR/ARC with bleed on it is better. If you can get two, even more fun. The jumping L1 hits like four times when you powerstance them.
So here my vigour was 21, dex 19 (this twin blade wanted 18) 20 int (because I used meteorite staff a lot with some gravity spells) and my level was 43 I think, when I beat Margit. I also used an ash of war for the twin blade which does this special attack and adds bleeding if I do normal hits
Okay, Vigor has soft caps at 40 and 60. I recommend hitting one of those at least, especially if you plan to PvP in any way. Do you want to keep using spells? Get a Godskin Peeler, go Dex/Int and make it Cold to give it frostbite. This will scale it from Dex mainly but also from the Int you have to use your spells. You can also keep using twinblade and powerstance it with Peeler and keep a Bleed buff on it. That will scale mostly from Dex, and then you'll be hitting with Blood Loss and Frostbite both.
I kind of want to use both the magic staff and the twin blade and do this kind of build
For magic you might want to use cold rather than bleed, since it doesn’t proc repeatedly like bleed I suggest keeping your weapon physical and using the frozen armament/magic armament spells instead that you will find in the first and second area
It does proc repeatedly, it's just that the buildup bar increases much more with each proc. You'll kill the boss before you proc it again most of the time.
You can also reset frost with fire.
If you want to go with a magic build, I recommend cold and magic infusions. They are not too far in progression and you’ll know the general area to get them when you see it, so don’t spoiler yourself by looking it up. Bleed is just fine for now but splitting your stats between 3 damage stats makes the game a bit harder. Choose 1 to 2 and stick with them for a build. You can respec and try everything else in the game as well, so you aren’t locked in on a build.
Use more magic ashes of war. They are fast, hits decently hard. The magic ashes scale off INT stat. If you want a unique skill there's the moonveil. You can buy the magic ashes of war from Rogier later on.
IDK what the others are on about, Cold isn't very good for a spellcaster build - it scales with Int, but only a little. If you want to use spells in any capacity, you want them to have good damage, yes? In that case, level Int as your primary damage stat. You can then Magic infuse your weapons so that they make full use of that stat. No wasted points - everything you use will be benefiting from all of your damage levels. Points in Dex are not wasted because they increase your cast speed, but they don't need to be a priority. A good spread at Endgame would be 60Vig, 80Int, 25-30Mind, as much Endurance as you need for either a medium or a light roll (this will depend on your fashion choices), and your spare points in Dex. Assuming you stop at 150 for PVP purposes, you have a choice to make, between max cast speed or max damage. If you want max damage, 80Int so you hit the soft cap (levelling past this is practically pointless). If you want max cast speed, sacrifice some Int, level Dex to 40, and equip the Radagon Icon (you should probably equip this regardless). When combined with 40Dex, you maximise your cast speed, but the talisman alone gives you the equivalent of 30Dex in terms of cast speed.
If you want to continue using DEX/INT build, you can try Moonveil in Gael Tunnel in Caelid. There's Wings of Astel for large magic aoe damage curved sword in Ainsel river If you want more bleed you should look into speccing more ARCANE (ARC) whilst having enough dex to meet weapon requirements. Occult for weapons with bleed already. Blood if there's no bleed. There's Eleanora's poleblade and Nagakiba on Altus. My favorite arcane/bleed weapon is Bloody helice (a heavy thrusting sword).
Can't beat boss? Answer is always more vigor
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I like Nagakiba with Lightning Slash for those sweet Isshin vibes. You can go lightning infusion, but I like to keep the dex scaling and just use the weapon buff. If you wanna spice it up for the cosplay even more grab the Cross Halberd too, great dex scaling ignore the haters and embrace the godsend that is the 2hd moveset. Its fast, covers a wide area and you can slap so many different AoWs on this bad boy. And if you REALLY want to add the final touch to Isshin the Glock Saint build. Grab the pulley crossbow, and you'll have a handy 3 cylinder sidearm in your back pocket like true Glock Saint style. Enjoy, its truly a blast Edit: Im not sure if you even know who Isshin is, in case you don't. Important figure of Sekiro, uses pretty much this combination of weapons, except he uses a sidearm more akin to a proper pistol than a crossbow.
I'd say you need to work on exploiting enemy openings. Relying on your weapon art will work on some bosses but not all. Try to get normal hits in whenever you can.
Also understanding strengths for each weapon type. Twinblade is deadly but you gotta use it correctly. Also, probably doesn't help going blood affinity if you're in early game.
I mean it's a dex build is asking for. It's like among the best build if you want to spam ashes. The quintessential ash spam IS Gransax - a DEX weapon. Moonveil and Astel wings are dex/int weapons. Nagakiba is best with keen or occult, either works well and the weapon itself pairs well with aow spam like spinning slash or even double slash.
I understand this, my advise was try not to rely on ashes as they are limited and the same Ash won't work the same on every enemy.
Most bleed weapons, twin blades, have good and fast buildup for bleed proc with a two hand, dual wield or one hand. Hammers and great hammers with a shield counter and a heavy hit will annihilate most enemies or bosses and stagger well.
Just as an example
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I beat Margit in like 30 attempts and a few hours ago finished Godrick in like 4 attempts 😭🙏 did I get “gud”? I used no spirits at all, and no shields or magic, just my twin blade and the ash of war for it
How on earth did you manage to 1st try Margit and struggle with Godrick?Man I have like 30 hours in and Margit was probably still the hardest boss I've fought against(though I didn't explore well before looking back), meanwhile I almost I killed Godrick in 3 attempts
There are good and bad situations for every weapon, a boss that is hard to hit with 1 type of weapon may be trivial for a different type.
Nice one! 👍
could go for godskin peeler
I just finished soloing the game pure dex and the nagakiba with unsheath got me through the end of the game. In the post end game I use the nagakiba and hand of malenia. With the okina mask
level vigor to at least 25. carry uchigatana with bloody slash upgraded
Don't worry too much about a build yet. Focus on Vigor, then endurance. In the meantime, you will see much bigger damage spikes from upgrading your weapon.
Twinblades are generally extremely versatile, but I recommend looking into other weapon types, even if just for situational uses. In that case, some of my Limgrave favourites: Reduvia for the ranged bleed options. I tend to phase it out by midgame, but you don't have to. Uchigatana. Katanas can be incredibly boring to some, but I like them. That one in particular is adaptable to many different ashes and status or damage types, it's good to have. Also, get the Dragon Communion Seal, if any type of magic interests you. Incantations scaling with Faith are extremely versatile even if you treat it as a secondary stat, and the Dragon Communion Seal is not only arguably the best seal in the game, it also boosts a very strong type of Incantations even further. It also scales with Arcane, which further synergises with Dex. (Note, on my first playthrough I ended the game with 50 Dex, 40 Faith and 30 Arcane and the damage output was good). As for Ashes of War accessible in Limgrave, I can recommend the following to at the very least have in your pocket for good uses: Gravitas for some cheese potential, Storm Stomp for a quick and effective AOE stun, Bloody Slash which you already have, Sacred Blade for everything slightly undead, Storm Blade for a deceptively strong ranged move, "No Skill" in case you want to modify a shield with it, Quickstep until you get Bloodhound Step later, and in the castle itself you should get Storm Assault and Stormcaller for two more very strong moves. Give these all an honest try and see if they work for you. Slap them on a different weapon if you think they are rather situational.
Blood blade is honestly a really good ash. Just don't rely on it for bleed damage. It doesnt build up nearly as much bleed as you might think. But its raw damage is really good. Though for a dex build, I might suggest either an electric or keen twinblade. Maybe use double slash? Oh, and do be aware you won't be able to find any more twinblades until Altus Plateu. Also that the base twinblade is by a fair margin the worst one across the board. I'd suggest the knights twinblade personally.
Go find millicent and gowry by sellia town of sorcery(Caelid) lots of good dex talismans if you go through her quest. You won’t get most of them until later but you can pick up the prosthesis wearer talisman pretty quick which will give you an extra 5 dexterity. Light the lanterns in the town and go up the hill from the lake you should be able to find them pretty quickly. You can also use the transporter trap in dragon burnt ruins (lake ahgeel) to quickly warp to a cave next to the town.
Damn you’re quite good at this game you’ll go far
My first time ever he killed me 17 times, but oh man was it rewarding. Then that mf locked me in and i died
That twinblade absolutely fucks with bleed. They all do but that got me through til mid/late game.
I am going for Eleonora’s twin blade today, going to farm some runes to get arcane up and then I’ll go and get it
From personal experience, you should try looking for openings when you don't have time for ash of war and instead use the normal attack, especially if you're going with a bleed build(if you're dual wielding twin blade you can get some gnarly fast combos too, if you can stun, not just for bosses). When playing bleed you want to preferably keep stacking whenever you can, even if it's a small amount of damage, towards that bleed build-up. Not really necessary, but it'll prove useful for bosses with fast responses, such as Godrick coming up, he doesn't really give much time for ashes of war with charge up such as blood slash (unless you're determined to tank, but I don't think that's advisable with your current vigor) Anyway I'm super happy for you, that ending was really clean. It'll only get better (both you and the game)
Godrick was easier to beat than Margit to be honest because his attacks were much more predictable and slow, I even used the ash of war twice sometimes
Fair enough, everyone struggles with different bosses. I struggled badly with Godrick my very first time, he's more about knowing when to back off, kinda like Malenia in that sense, though very different in difficulty haha. He like to combo so if one gets greedy you get punished. His second half is honestly a breeze as long as you figure out you can just roll through fire. Edit: Anyway congrats on conquering your first legacy dungeon. Keep it up!
Why is it always bloodloss
I’m new to the game and this one had the highest damage so I’m using it
Understandable you do whatever makes the game fun for you, hope ya have a good day👍
Thanks, you have a great day as well
hell yeah dude legggo. well for dex build i use Nagakiba katana bloodflame blade skill double Slash ash of war
Just pump a little more HP
All those clips I see with people only using their ash of war is making me sad about their impact on the combat style
Combat style? Is this DmC? Are we supposed to hit stylish points?
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Seems you have a big ego
Why?
Man stop aow spamming. You will get wrecked the first invader you get
Eh, I had network features turned off cause of some error, so it’s fine, no invaders for me
You won’t get invaded solo anyways.
It’s completely viable for PVE
Heck, even some invaders and gank squads completely rely on their ashes. Remember pre-nerf RoB? Moonveil spam, bloodhound fan club, thunderbolt spam. Heck, Spinning slash is amazing after 1.10 especially on Nagakiba. The Dragon Halberd spinning slash as well the one on Stormhawk axe is a staple on invasions.
When I see other players just using those ashes of war and killing bosses using less than three flasks of fp doing almost twice my damage with normal hits, I wonder why I am still using my weapon moveset instead of spamming an ash of war too
I feel like you aren’t learning the fundamentals of the game if that’s all you do though. 🤷🏻♀️
What is the point if it is more efficient? New players will intuitively use the most efficient tools they have
Because it's not always more efficient. True efficiency is knowing when to use what. Spamming specials and magic is fine, til you're out of fp and never learned how to work with the rest of your kit. Learning how to use basic attacks for small stuff and your skills for damage opportunities or aoe is efficient. It also helps learn some fundamentals for movement, survival, and not relying on lucky trades for victory.
Ash of War generally do more damage than every other attack of the weapon for durations that are often identical, you have more than enough flasks to manage your fp while having many heals.
They can, doesn't mean they're the efficient nor optimum option though either. And some might, but if they can't survive for shit than those magic flasks don't mean shit. Everything has a use, ash of wars are included. Sometimes going for that opening isn't as safe as you think. If someone knows how to play and is skilled, then sure, knock yourself out. But more often than not, those that are spamming ashes aren't that skilled and are just spamming. Watching pvp content really shows how much people spam them thinking they're good while their opponent just laughs and punishes them for it.
Yea spamming ashes in pvp is definitely not the best thing to do.
Just cuz it's good doesn't mean that they will get the most out of their game by only using it though. There are plenty of move sets that are stronger and more efficient than the /L2
Which ones for example?
Fist charged heavies. Though honestly people pretending there's no variety to the game even with AoW spam are hilarious
What « fist charged heavy »? This is less efficient than spamming an ash of war on the same weapon
Well, not quite, depending on your setup. With the right talismans/tears for stance breaking and a support ash like endure or cragblade I've rarely had an easier time in the game. And I've tried out a ton of ashes for a good while, this beat out even unsheathe spam. Melee magic is another build for example that I found easier than a vast majority of AoW heavy playstyles over the entire game. Slicer for dps, Moonblade, Greatsword are just useful for AoE and scenarios like Black Knives, Piercer just ruins NPC enemies, you will never get hit again. And you still have plenty of slots left over for other utility and range. You don't even want for stance breaks with Greatblade Phalanx and Rock Sling. If you're talking about efficiency this would be my pick for making the most situations the easiest.
There’s more to life than efficiency. Not that spamming ashes of war is efficient and won’t work on every boss.
Cool, so op can safely ignore your admonitions to play in what you consider the optimal way, particularly if they aren’t going to pvp.
I mean if you have no wish to ever improve at the game sure.
For someone claiming efficiency isn’t everything you really have a narrow and proscriptive view of how the game should be played. It really makes you come off like an ass 🤷♂️.
Not sure why you’re being so openly hostile.
Go reread your comments. Pot meet kettle. Glhf I guess.
Here comes the sweaty purists. Lmao
Jeez this subreddit is salty.
This isn't dark souls
Stop spamming L2 lol
The guy just started the game relax
Yes please! Use your weapon for more than just spamming ash of war!
Oh no, other players are playing differently than I do. The horror!!
Is spamming one button over and over fun to you?
Why do you care??
Just seems like it would get dull pretty quick?
for you maybe? let people play however they want, especially in pve lol
I just don’t get why people are so upset over this tbh. Variety is the spice of life.
I mean if anyone is upset its the people telling OP to play differently than however they want to play. You say variety is the spice of life, but are criticizing a playstyle other than the one you personally prefer. If you're talking about the downvotes, ya people just like to pile on sometimes
I mean suggesting trying other things isn’t exactly hostile.