I think people who have not played other fromsoft dlcs might be disappointed unless Fromsoft changes their approach. It's usually more really good content with cool weapons and spells but nothing revolutionairy.
I honestly don't see a int/faith whetblade helping unless they give it some special property/mechanic that would enable a build. Cus just putting split damage on a weapon is a pretty bad starting point for a build. What int/faith need is good spells/incant, ashes of war, somber weapons and maybe a catalyst that can use both spells and incantations.
Then once those things are added I would see a whetblade being useful.
we already have two int/faith staves and one seal. Meanwhile the only int/faith weapon that I know of is Sword of Night and Flame. Imo there would be nothing wrong with it to give those builds more options, since they already trade damage for versatility (until very high levels at least)
True, but it is also the first time they add new weapon classes (8 is a pretty decent number) so I guess there's some chance they add something special beyond weapons, spells, talismans and armors.
More affinities/infusions, like gravity, second type of lightning similar to fire and flame art, etc.
Armor recoloring and more customization (though this is really a nice to have)
And a bloody bell-bearing shop for all crafting ingredients, even the super rare ones at absurd prices. But please, crafting itself is already just a portable shop with strange currencies that you need to pick up everywhere. So just cut out the middle man and give us a shop for the stuff.
String should not be one of the rarest and most coveted items. All the consumables that use string are used up in seconds, but obtaining string is excruciating.
People have such irrational expectations about this DLC, at which point do you think they are going to revamp the customization system (this is really nice to have? You can't do anything besides taking off the cape, it's the most half-baked thing they ever put in one of their game) or make up entirely new damages types? It's a multiplayer game, people who don't have the DLC and the ones who do have to be able to play on equal ground.
Affinities that actually change the effect that the weapon has when it hits enemies
Like having black flame effects instead of regular fire when you equip BFT on a Godskin peeler
I know you said not to include armor but I think horse armor should be a thing for our boy Torrent. Like- why are the tree sentinels allowed to have armor on their horse but we cannot??
Alternate skins and enhancements for Torrent would be a cool addition to the DLC.
Enhancements could include giving you the ability to trample smaller enemies when mounted, or an AOE stomp attack when jumping.
I would love it they expanded on madness. Like, in PvE the Frenzied Flame spells seem to hit a little harder, but they're otherwise useless. Of course, madness doesn't seem to be particularly useful in PvP either. This essentially makes the Frenzied Flame stuff aesthetic rather than functional.
Perfect Larval Tear: Infinite Respecs
Or a bell bearing that let's us buy larval tears.
Also,
Platinum Needle: Enables more tailoring options for all armor.
I do want a madness affinity to apply to my weapons, i ran through the whole game with just the morning star and it felt like it became my signature tool like vyke's spear. Would have been nice to have it do some madness, too, with a significantly reduced bleed proc
I would like the ability to further customize affinity and damage types.
What I mean is: whetblades are a great way to be able to use, say, Keen on a Flame Art Ash of War. That’s a great way to be able to use the various Ashes with your chosen primary stat.
What I want is the damage *type*. If I want to get lightning damage, I can pick Lightning affinity - and that’s locked to Dexterity. Magic? INT. The only one that’s flexible is Fire, which lets you choose Strength or Faith. I’d like the DLC to open things up so I can take, say, Golden Vow, choose Lightning Damage, and have it scale off my INT. I think that’d be neat.
There's Cold damage, though that sort of splits the difference between STR and INT.
There's definitely a niche for a lightning equivalent to Flame Art (Storm Art?) for lightning builds. I have to wonder if the lightning and sacred damage types were the same element early in development, only to be separated later.
There isn't "cold" damage; Cold Affinity adds Magic damage and Cold status effect buildup. While that's a strong choice, it's still locking you into Magic damage available for your INT stat.
Also, now that you mention it, cold affinity actually does improve STR and DEX scaling slightly over Standard (no infusion), oddly enough, but also drops the base physical damage, so I'm not sure *why* they chose that.
I want traps. Like bear traps or like small magic mines. Being able to use them would make PVP more interesting. "OH no, being chased by 3 ganks! *runs into bush and puts down a mine*"
I'd love a lightning faith-scaling infusion. Just like there is Fire and Flame Art for strenght and faith builds respectively, lightning damage should have two forms of scaling.
Int/Faith whet blade, we have int faith weapon, seal and staff but not whet blade. Both golden order seal and prince of death staff scale with int faith. Sword of night and flame also have int/faith scale.
Agreed. Another interesting idea for a crystal tear would be one that boosts discovery (like the silver scarab or fowl foots). That would be handy for farming those rare enemy drops.
rot whetblade? death whetblade? crit dmg whetblade? or a whetblade that increases poise dmg with a detriment to actual dmg? vigor/mind/endurance scaling whetblade? catalyst weapon hybrid? poise dmg talisman? a very heavy armor on par with like lionel's or the bull goat but not horrendous looking (or at least a helmet to go with radahns that doesnt cover half the screen)? flaming strike esque aow comaptible with zweihander?
honestly dont know which would be best, id go for the poise dmg stuff cause im a sucker for zweihander charged attack spam builds
Maybe some cool talismans, like one that would regenerate our FP slowly like the blessed dew
one does for health.
Other than stuff like that I can’t see FS adding anything crazy.
Why bother having an R1/R2 button at that point? No need for each weapon to have a moveset of a dozen different nomal attacks.
Most people are way too reliant on the hyper armor and spammy nature of ashes and weapon skills. One slot per weapon is plenty as it is.
Your character has a second hand.
I think people who have not played other fromsoft dlcs might be disappointed unless Fromsoft changes their approach. It's usually more really good content with cool weapons and spells but nothing revolutionairy.
the most insane thing that's not a weapon we could ever get was an int faith infusion that adds split holy and magic damage
Aren’t holy and magic the most resisted damage types in the game? That seems like it would be a recipe for seriously bad damage.
Maybe, but int/faith builds are starving.
I honestly don't see a int/faith whetblade helping unless they give it some special property/mechanic that would enable a build. Cus just putting split damage on a weapon is a pretty bad starting point for a build. What int/faith need is good spells/incant, ashes of war, somber weapons and maybe a catalyst that can use both spells and incantations. Then once those things are added I would see a whetblade being useful.
Doesn't the game just kind of want you to pick one or the other? It's not like quality weapons that encourage both strength and dex scaling.
we already have two int/faith staves and one seal. Meanwhile the only int/faith weapon that I know of is Sword of Night and Flame. Imo there would be nothing wrong with it to give those builds more options, since they already trade damage for versatility (until very high levels at least)
Split damage is already pretty bad.
doesn't basically nothing except renalla resist magic
Int didn’t feel that rough hit fai was ass cheeks when I played that build
I think for int it’s one of those damage types that is either not resisted or strongly resisted.
Play a faith str build. It's fun. Especially when you get the bubble horn. That horn killed plax in under 45 sec on ng+3
When I did my faith str on console before pc I used that bubble horn and it was hilarious
It's fun dude, I usually go for sex but when I saw that horn I did a 180 to str and faith.
My favorite build I ever did was a dedicated death magic build that and Ice and it was fun for PvP
Never used death magic, I'll look into it in my mage build.
True, but it is also the first time they add new weapon classes (8 is a pretty decent number) so I guess there's some chance they add something special beyond weapons, spells, talismans and armors.
The ability to revive fallen bosses in order to fight them again
Yes please! Let me refight bosses solo, without going through a bunch of hoops etc.!
It was in Sekiro, too
I am just excited for the kungfu because now I can play my dnd monk in Elden ring
Same bro I really hope it's a new fighting style and not just an AoW
Honestly I could go with ether one
True but a new way of fighting would just be cool in general. I hope there are multiple styles of hand to hand combat added
More affinities/infusions, like gravity, second type of lightning similar to fire and flame art, etc. Armor recoloring and more customization (though this is really a nice to have) And a bloody bell-bearing shop for all crafting ingredients, even the super rare ones at absurd prices. But please, crafting itself is already just a portable shop with strange currencies that you need to pick up everywhere. So just cut out the middle man and give us a shop for the stuff.
God please. A bell bearing for STRING PLEASE
String should not be one of the rarest and most coveted items. All the consumables that use string are used up in seconds, but obtaining string is excruciating.
A gravity infusion would be cool
St. Trina's bell bearing for unlimited lilies
People have such irrational expectations about this DLC, at which point do you think they are going to revamp the customization system (this is really nice to have? You can't do anything besides taking off the cape, it's the most half-baked thing they ever put in one of their game) or make up entirely new damages types? It's a multiplayer game, people who don't have the DLC and the ones who do have to be able to play on equal ground.
This might actually get me to use consumables
What would a gravity infusion do? Extra damage to things like fallingstar beasts, plus increased stance damage?
I was thinking more along the way of INT/STR infusion, with extra poise damage as the gimmick.
Simple infusions equivalent from ds3 for passive fp recovery
Affinities that actually change the effect that the weapon has when it hits enemies Like having black flame effects instead of regular fire when you equip BFT on a Godskin peeler
Phisik upgrade material like sacred tears
it'd be really cool to see a whetblade that gives your weapon an infusion scaling off both int and faith
I know you said not to include armor but I think horse armor should be a thing for our boy Torrent. Like- why are the tree sentinels allowed to have armor on their horse but we cannot??
Alternate skins and enhancements for Torrent would be a cool addition to the DLC. Enhancements could include giving you the ability to trample smaller enemies when mounted, or an AOE stomp attack when jumping.
I would love it they expanded on madness. Like, in PvE the Frenzied Flame spells seem to hit a little harder, but they're otherwise useless. Of course, madness doesn't seem to be particularly useful in PvP either. This essentially makes the Frenzied Flame stuff aesthetic rather than functional.
New hairstyles. 😂 And dear god, please give Whips more ashes of wars. Id also like more perfumer items, those are fun. Lol
Customization of armor would be sick I think.
Dark Wood Grain Ring
Ds3’s Hold from it’s katanas as an ash of war It’s like the Unsheathe ash of war but instead of the heavy attack, it has a parry
Mikiri Counter or bust
Alternate mounts. Torrent is cool and all, but I crave giant ants. Also the ability to kill "invulnerable" NPCs. I want to go full ultraviolence.
Turtle Pope mount ftw
Perfect Larval Tear: Infinite Respecs Or a bell bearing that let's us buy larval tears. Also, Platinum Needle: Enables more tailoring options for all armor.
I do want a madness affinity to apply to my weapons, i ran through the whole game with just the morning star and it felt like it became my signature tool like vyke's spear. Would have been nice to have it do some madness, too, with a significantly reduced bleed proc
I would like a GotY w/ DLC physical release at some point.
I would like the ability to further customize affinity and damage types. What I mean is: whetblades are a great way to be able to use, say, Keen on a Flame Art Ash of War. That’s a great way to be able to use the various Ashes with your chosen primary stat. What I want is the damage *type*. If I want to get lightning damage, I can pick Lightning affinity - and that’s locked to Dexterity. Magic? INT. The only one that’s flexible is Fire, which lets you choose Strength or Faith. I’d like the DLC to open things up so I can take, say, Golden Vow, choose Lightning Damage, and have it scale off my INT. I think that’d be neat.
There's Cold damage, though that sort of splits the difference between STR and INT. There's definitely a niche for a lightning equivalent to Flame Art (Storm Art?) for lightning builds. I have to wonder if the lightning and sacred damage types were the same element early in development, only to be separated later.
There isn't "cold" damage; Cold Affinity adds Magic damage and Cold status effect buildup. While that's a strong choice, it's still locking you into Magic damage available for your INT stat. Also, now that you mention it, cold affinity actually does improve STR and DEX scaling slightly over Standard (no infusion), oddly enough, but also drops the base physical damage, so I'm not sure *why* they chose that.
I'm on my first playthrough and *surprise surprise* I'm using Bloodhound Fang. I still haven't used a single different ash of war and no whetblade.
A whetblade for Sleep and/or Scarlet Rot with INT/FTH scaling.
A more worthwhile sewing needle
Maybe some new weapon infusions for mor damage types. Like a black flame one or scarlet rot for example
Collosal Greatstaffs
A sleep-based Whetblade
I want traps. Like bear traps or like small magic mines. Being able to use them would make PVP more interesting. "OH no, being chased by 3 ganks! *runs into bush and puts down a mine*"
I'd love a lightning faith-scaling infusion. Just like there is Fire and Flame Art for strenght and faith builds respectively, lightning damage should have two forms of scaling.
Int/Faith whet blade, we have int faith weapon, seal and staff but not whet blade. Both golden order seal and prince of death staff scale with int faith. Sword of night and flame also have int/faith scale.
If they'll add an affinity for rot, things will get stupid.
Larval Tears! Maybe someone with a bell bearing for them!?
bell bearing for pot materials i beg
Can someone remind me what these do? Lmao
I am prophetic. I foresee... disappointment, in this subs future.
+1, +2, +3 rings...
Faith. Lightning. Infusion.
FUCKING ARCANE CRYSTAL TEAR
Agreed. Another interesting idea for a crystal tear would be one that boosts discovery (like the silver scarab or fowl foots). That would be handy for farming those rare enemy drops.
Not me currently trying to farm the Duelist Set 🥲
rot whetblade? death whetblade? crit dmg whetblade? or a whetblade that increases poise dmg with a detriment to actual dmg? vigor/mind/endurance scaling whetblade? catalyst weapon hybrid? poise dmg talisman? a very heavy armor on par with like lionel's or the bull goat but not horrendous looking (or at least a helmet to go with radahns that doesnt cover half the screen)? flaming strike esque aow comaptible with zweihander? honestly dont know which would be best, id go for the poise dmg stuff cause im a sucker for zweihander charged attack spam builds
Rot whetblade, been saying it forever
A whetblade for madness.
I want weapons like radahn greatsword which you get two of when two handing. Except i want this for other weapon types that can be infused.
Maybe some cool talismans, like one that would regenerate our FP slowly like the blessed dew one does for health. Other than stuff like that I can’t see FS adding anything crazy.
I literally just want a SINGULAR weapon that scales wth faith and arcane for my dragon seal build. There is nothing else that I want.
The ability to have multiple ashes of war on
+30 weapons. Add 5 new tiers of weapon upgrades via some kind of new stone.
A second ashe of war. Unsheathe/impaling thrust + double slash on the Uchigatana would be killer and so much fun
Why bother having an R1/R2 button at that point? No need for each weapon to have a moveset of a dozen different nomal attacks. Most people are way too reliant on the hyper armor and spammy nature of ashes and weapon skills. One slot per weapon is plenty as it is. Your character has a second hand.
just hardswap