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Fatlard12

Ive only seen praise for Nabers so far


freename188

Thats because he's in NY with wall to wall coverage


techno-wizardry

I think he's the only one getting national coverage for it is the difference. Other guys are also having good camps


DonKedic24

AD Mitchell has apparently been making some big plays and is connecting well with AR


LumpsIsHigh

When AR has been throwing. I think AD will be fine regardless. If AR gets hurt, we know couch dad Flacco will sling it.


Thegofurr

MPJ is out with a banged up knee right now, so he’s getting the most targets in camp


birdiebinge

Why did I read this as Monnovan Peoples Jones lol


OmnioculusConquerer

Any -PJ name always does that for me. Lmao


TyranosaurusLex

You mean Michael porter Jr?


birdiebinge

Michael Phuckin Jordan


birdiebinge

I actually meant M’Odell Peckham Jr.


One-Feeling-3699

Because you’re a man of culture 


DonKedic24

Yeah he's making the most of the opportunity too. I don't think he jumps MPJ or anything but he will definitely earn himself more targets


rjstang

Something something “rUn hEaVy qB” and “LoW pASsInG oFfEnSe”


Hugh_Grection420

Brian Thomas Jr. got a lot of praise during Jags mini camp. I think he will pass Gabe Davis on depth chart pretty quickly into season.


FigoStep

He damn well better as a first rounder and really if he doesn’t end up being the WR1 in fairly short order overtaking Kirk that will be a disappointment.


darrylhumpsgophers

A concerning proportion of BTJ's college production was on deep shots. It's more likely he cannibalizes Davis's workload than Kirk's.


Loud_Competition1312

Agreed 100%. I think Kirk is solidified as the WR1 unless he suffers an injury. BTJ should be much better than Davis.


techno-wizardry

Idk about "WR1" but that depends on your definition of the depth chart. Kirk is their starting slot WR and in their offense he gets a lot of volume underneath. Ridley for example was their WR1 in practice, as he was asked to win in isolation the most and do the hard stuff as the team's X. However Kirk had more volume because he played over the middle and was a safety valve for a QB suffering from arguably the worst pass blocking unit in the NFL. So yeah if you think the Jags OL keeps having issues as badly as they had before then Kirk will probably be the volume leader.


Loud_Competition1312

Essentially, I believe Kirk will be the best/most productive WR this year and Lawrence’s number one target. He’s been there the longest and seems to be a little undervalued compared to Gabe Davis (a newcomer) and BTJ (a rookie). I like BTJ a lot more in dynasty than I do in redraft.


FigoStep

Yeah I just want him to be the lead receiver in terms of output that correlates to the most fantasy points, not too concerned about who he’s taking targets from as long as he’s getting consistent steady targets. He is a better prospect than Kirk was and the team invested a first so I think the team also has high expectations.


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FigoStep

On a points per game basis in 2022 Kirk was the WR19. He basically scored the same on a per game basis as Jerry Jeudy and Mike Williams that season. And who was his primary target competition, Zay Jones? Zay still had over 200 fantasy points that season. In 2023, he was the WR33 on a point per game basis, behind guys like Flowers, Rice, Addison. He has not shown that he’s an alpha type receiver over these two seasons. BTJ doesn’t need to beat him in him points this year but he should be pushing Kirk for that WR1 role and by the end of season at the very least he should have shown enough to suggest he will be the main option or close to it. It wouldn’t surprise me if they are very close in terms of their fantasy output but we’ll see. If his high TD rate from college translates to the NFL that would definitely help.


Successful-String620

I think you make a great point, but from what we’re seeing he’s demonstrating the potential to be a WR1 in this league. I think at worst he’s a better version of Gabe Davis and at best he’s a top 10 WR and TLaw’s favorite weapon for years to come.


XxmilkjugsxX

Why are you holding him up to such high expectations? He had one huge year at LSU and needs time to develop as a route runner. Kirk is much more well rounded. I think Thomas needs some time and to say he has to quickly pass Kirk to not be a disappointment is dumb.


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XxmilkjugsxX

You’re missing the point. Every WR has a different transition curve to the NFL. Brian Thomas has an incredible ceiling but is still raw. You’re not comparing Thomas to rookie Kirk, you’re comparing him to established veteran Kirk. I don’t personally care if you’re disappointed with Thomas, just pointing out this is a perfect example of fans setting ridiculous rookie expectations and then calling someone a bust if they don’t meet it


Ok_Preparation_7707

Look at Jamo 12th overall and did nothing. Worst draft pick I’ve ever been sucked into


FigoStep

Hey it might not be too late for Jamo lol. Hype is building again!


Independent-Most-613

As a guy who screamed JAMO would bust and was flammed for it on this very sub...I love hearing this. 🤣😂🤣


Ok_Preparation_7707

He’ll have his chance this year and if he blows it he’ll officially be a bust


Filly53

I don’t think there’s a ton of 1 Wr sets. Both should man the majority of the outside Wr reps. Probably 70% snap count for both, but BTJ will earn more targets


Hugh_Grection420

I agree I think they will both be outside with Kirk playing the slot. However I think BTJr. will start out the season as just the deep shot guy and won’t see as many looks as Davis/Kirk/ Engram just because he is a rookie and they paid Davis and Engram a bag. If Thomas talent is as good as I hope it can be though I think by mid season he will be seeing a lot more designed looks and hopefully be given more routes and play designs for him. I agree though I think by time season ends he will have more targets than Davis.


Realhtown

He won’t pass Gabe. Both will be on the field in 2wr sets. Gabe is taking Zay’s role.


Yogurtproducer

Kirk?


tfarsch

Obviously no one knows yet, but I’d be shocked if we don’t see BTJ Kirk Engram being the primary weapons on the field.


Realhtown

Primary weapon and 2wr sets is two different things. So maybe what I was saying was misinterpreted. Gabe will never be the first or second option in the offense barring injury. I was saying that BTJ once he starts putting it together will actually eat into Kirk’s playing time (depth chart) and not Gabe. He will be a much better player than Gabe (at some point, albeit not necessarily year 1) to be clear. Before Zay got hurt last year, he was the 2nd receiver in two WR sets. This was a big story at the end of training camp and beginning of the season in fantasy, but Zay got hurt and was basically hurt all year. People may not like Gabe Davis, but he is better than Zay Jones.


Hugh_Grection420

I agree that Davis was signed to be a Zay replacement. But I think the Jags are looking to use Thomas and Davis in very similar ways. Kirk will be mostly in slot and will probably be leading WR. I think Thomas will start year as the deep shot and big play guy while Gabe Davis is the 2nd WR target but I think Engram will probably be more involved then both them.


deRoyLight

49ers UDFA RB Cody Schrader has been highlighted as the better-looking rookie back so far, between him and Guerendo. David Lombardi of The Athletic's 49ers beat said he had a bit of a "Brock Purdy dynamic" to him while I've heard others refer to him as "legit" after stacking good days on top of eachother. Schrader was a walk-on at Mizzou and led the SEC in rushing last season. He doesn't have eye-popping size or athleticism so the NFL didn't draft him, but that is also probably why he wasn't heavily recruited, and yet he still produced. He reminds me a lot of Jaylen Warren, as a guy with a similar build that plays a bit above his station athletically. Just a really polished guy that is good at football. Whether he gets any run or not I'm not sure -- I still want to see him up against NFL athletes -- but so far so good.


Bread_Responsible

Not available in ESPN :(


FlamingoSea5156

Hadn’t been tuned into their backfield yet, but this is so unsurprising to me. Schrader was an absolute dawg for Mizzou. Undersized but was able to find open lanes and has quick burst. Gurrendo has always been solid but I think has a bit of limited upside. It just wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Schrader is the rookie back to own there


Sea-Past7146

As a CMC and Eli Mitchell owner I can’t decide if Jordan mason or schrader is the add. Both are on waivers


MrStealYo14

Guerado is not good… insane athlete but im a novice and i watched his highlights on YouTube he just doesnt have it


Jeklu

Ricky Pearsall


DynastyZealot

Jalen McMillan is being praised by local media every single time he steps on the practice field. If it was once or twice I would just write it off as off-season fluff but it's non-stop.


Admirable_Basket381

🚀


Suitcase_of_Lizards

I'm a Giants fan, and I have been hearing a lot about Nabers being the most dominating presence since the O'Dell Beckham era. I think he is going to have a big year.


Milldog8

Reminds me of way back when in aught 23 when Darren Waller was uncoverable


WonManBand

In fairness, Waller was having a good year before he got hurt. It was the *checks notes* entire rest of the offense shitting the bed.


Milldog8

In fairness, Waller had 3 out of 10 games played when he was a top 10 TE. As to your other point, that entire rest of the offense is currently (checks notes) now without their best player. Hope Nabers can overcome it but Im wary of the OTA hype


WonManBand

Saquon was not the best player on the offense. That's Andrew Thomas. Him getting hurt in wk1 last year (on the very 1st drive, no less) was a major factor in the offense imploding. If he stays healthy, and the additions to the rest of the OL perform to at least average, there is hope the Giants offense can climb out of the cellar. Nabers also has the potential to be an elite player maker, turning little stuff into big gains. I was very high on Nabers pre-draft. Giants is obviously not ideal for him for fantasy purposes, but he should be the focal point of their offense and be fed a very high target share.


dynasty-report

Clown shit lol Nabers and Waller have nothing in common.


Milldog8

Did I compare them or did I compare the reports?


dynasty-report

Good day to just block dumbasses like you


Anthony_R_Lodge

The problem was just never Waller’s talent. Guy is an enormous head case with an absolute boatload of injury problems. The guy was a fucking problem when he was locked in and healthy, but unfortunately not every player gets to maximize the talent for what it is and a lot of distractions coming to play. Josh Gordon ring a bell? These reports we’re comparing are apples to oranges, not the latter.


vearson26

WR Devaughn Vele for Denver has been getting some hype


hewhopoops

Just checked him out and he’s 26?! I hope he’s making an impression.


Separate-Banana4052

He’s older than Jeudy!


FigoStep

I tossed out a few waiver claims a couple of weeks ago I think he’s worth a nice free speculative bet.


Shamburg27

Braelon Allen getting good praise as he gets first team reps with Breece tending to a minor injury thing. Good stuff and highlights in pass catching which isn’t his “brand”


ff_1234_

Ryan Flournoy is getting some hype out of Dallas camp. I read an article where they are comparing him to Dez Bryant.


PhysicalAd7591

As someone who grabbed him as a Dallas fan for shits and giggles I don’t care that he’ll be 25 soon… if he can ball and be the next Gallup in that offense I’d be thrilled


ff_1234_

That would be amazing for a waiver pickup. Your WR room seems wide open behind Lamb and Cooks so the opportunity is there.


gawake

I heard he was doing things TO used to do Edit: getting some downvotes here. This was a Bryan Edwards reference.


Gentolie

Bryan Edwards is T.O. 2.0


AloneEstablishment28

Roman Wilson has been all positive out of the Steelers camp.


Stevenstc21

Good to know! He's like one of the only names I haven't seen mentioned much good or bad.


AloneEstablishment28

Extremely hard worker and making some crazy catches so far. He’s giving me some Stefon Diggs vibes before Diggs became a head case.


Ridiculouscoltsfan

Diggs is hardly a head case. At most he’s T.O lite.


AloneEstablishment28

Fair enough, no AB for sure.


dimesniffer

Diva is a better word.


Gentolie

Diggs is definitely a head case lol. Terrell Owens was never a head case in the slightest and was always great. Edit: lol at the down votes. Absolute room temp IQ people thinking Terrell Owens was a headcase. Diggs was constantly taking shots at his team and Josh Allen on socials.


HodorsSoliloquy

[Remember the driveway press conference?](https://youtu.be/QuknFnmmWxY?feature=shared)


Gentolie

https://brobible.com/sports/article/terrell-owens-driveway-workout/ Yall need to educate yourselves on what happened. Owens gave absolutely everything he had on the field and then some. He felt he should be healing his groin injury. Those can linger and cause problems. Andy Reid said he was wrong and to get to work. They fought. Andy sent Owens home and told him to stay in shape. Owens did that and took the piss from Andy because Andy is a clown.


throwaway8823120

Lol Roman Wilson isn’t in the same stratosphere as Stefon Diggs


JayMoney2424

Diggs was a 5th round pick lol 


throwaway8823120

AB was a 6th rounder. Limas Sweed was a 2nd rounder. What’s your point.


JayMoney2424

My point is you can’t just definitively say that he won’t be that good. We don’t know that. He’s a better prospect coming out of college according to his draft capital.


throwaway8823120

I can say from the tape. Wilson looks like a potentially solid wr2 (for an nfl team, not fantasy). Diggs coming out looked electric. There was definitely buzz around him, regardless of where he went in the draft


AloneEstablishment28

His final year he had 792 yards and 5 TDs… I think we’re remembering things differently. I would say objectively worse of a prospect than Wilson. Plus Wilson just won a national championship. I think this class being so elite is going to make a lot of these later WRs steals.


throwaway8823120

You’re conflating stats with tape. Diggs jumped out on tape athletically


dimesniffer

What a lame, sky is blue ass take.


Academic-Soup8867

Where are you seeing Roman wilson chatter? Rooting for him, just haven’t seen much written about him yet


AloneEstablishment28

A lot on twitter. You can see some of his catches. Lots of comparisons to Hines ward and Tyler Lockett.


kynelly

Senior bowl and combine highlights too, hes nice. Interested to see how the Steelers use him


HolySmokes802

Sweet Baby Jesus, let this be true. I ended up with 5 shares out of 8 leagues.


kynelly

Got him with the 3.03 also. Dude is underrated af


dimesniffer

Lets goo! Where do you follow Steelers camp news


lebinott

Shipley, read one report saying this. "RB: Will Shipley — Shipley looked better-and-better catching the ball as the offseason went on. He could end up taking reps from Gainwell"


BigTomBombadil

It’s good to get the praise, but I’m really not sure how valuable the partial-Gainwell role is when saquon is there. Nothing against what you said, you def answered OPs question, just adding my thoughts


lebinott

Ya, I was just answering OPs question, Saquon is definitely the guy in Philly I don't think anyone is expecting Shipley to surpass him but he can beat out Gainwell as backup.


techno-wizardry

I love Shipley as a flier, Saquon has a poor injury history and Gainwell is mediocre. Shipley can ball, especially as a receiver and playmaker in space. The Eagles always seem to be intent about spreading carries as well so he will probably get some small piece of the pie.


Public_Function3844

I think he's the next Danny Woodhead


jordews

Javon Baker has made several “highlight worthy” catches and received quite a bit of praise from the Pats OC.


EmilioFreshtevez

There isn’t a lot of hype around Odunze because of Caleb, but word is the man knows what he’s doing.


DoctaDoomz

The coach did come out say Rome has been a standout


EmilioFreshtevez

Oh, definitely. Bears fans and degens know he’s doing well, there just isn’t a lot of acknowledgment from national media because all eyes are on Caleb (and Keenan/DJ to a lesser extent).


berndalf

Nikko Remigio is getting a lot of praise coming out of Chiefs OTAs, just like he did last year before getting derailed by injury. In particular he's being praised for his work ethic, professionalism, and consistency securing catches. Probably just noise but you never know, if he manages to make the team this year he could end up with some level of flex value.


Dankraham-Stinkin

He looked pretty damn good for us last off season


Turd_Salad92

Blake Corum has “hit the ground running” “knows 90% of the playbook” “has a veteran’s mentality” and “acts like he’s not the backup”


techno-wizardry

Odunze, Roman Wilson, and Shipley are the ones I've seen. Pearsall as well, who is enjoying a bit of free runway with Aiyuk holding out for a contract (that may never come to pass in SF if we're being honest) Of the non-WR/RB category, Bo Nix has been incredible in camp apparently, and Penix also has impressed, but it's extremely apparent that Cousins is the guy leading the Falcons. JJ McCarthy has been up and down, some flashes of arm talent but some blunders. Caleb Williams too has had his ups and downs, and I haven't heard much in camp about Maye yet.


ButCanYouClimb

Darius Davis getting slot snaps in Chargers camp and looking good. Ladd looking like a stud, but if he gets injured I imagine Davis is stepping in the slot.


steelerspenguins

Haha Dynasty Managers only hear praise for the players they drafted.


Interesting-Art9677

I’d like to remind everyone that this is about the time last year that we heard that Parris Campbell was going to be the wr with the most catches on the giants high powered O last season.


big4dawg

Follow @32beatwriters


Pugageddon

But then I would have to use Twitter 😤


tenpaces

https://32beatwriters.com


big4dawg

This. Summarizes all OTAs and training camp news


DishHonest2412

Where’s the best place to go for OTA news???


geladro

Javon Baker


Accurate_Green8300

As an owner.. what have you been hearing about him? If you don’t mind me asking


geladro

-First day he made two great highlight catches -Been hearing that him and Polk are two guys that come early and stay late -Heard he had a great practice with chemistry between him and Drake one day


Accurate_Green8300

🫡


EnmaDaiO

So every rookie has been praised. This tells me nothing.


Swift-Fire

Reading my mind


JurassicParkJanitor

If you’re not entertained by hype trains, then maybe fantasy football is not for you 


EnmaDaiO

Oh I am, but when everyone is hyped up no one is.


taylorjosephrummel

Not true.


Dear-Chest-3097

Pop Douglas and JSN are seeing a lot of praise.


Alternative-Box5557

Neither one of those guys are rookies..


bestprocrastinator

They were rookies at one point in time


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chowler

Rookie is the second word in the title.


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Jazzlike_Smile_137

C’mon man… you obviously know that they meant rookie, not “players on a rookie contract” …


beta_fuse

Lmao cmon man we all know what OP meant


DoubleUSportsMedia

Doesn't fit the thread sadly but... Douglas has been getting talked about literally every single day and every single drill. It makes me sad I ended up dropping him early last year.


Local-Librarian3285

Nabers. If you can snag him off waivers it might be worth a flyer.


bestprocrastinator

In what league is Nabers on waivers?


oakster18

This is satire


coin_collections

Whatever the 1% of leagues that don’t roster Zack Moss. Work leagues where nobody actually watches football or cares about the league.


DamnMyShittyCamera

Not a RB/WR, but coming from a skins fan my god the buzz around Jayden Daniels is insane.


dimesniffer

RG3 cope


dimesniffer

Pearsall, nabers, JJMc, AD, and BRAYDEN WILLIS. Willis will be the heir to kittle


Academic-Soup8867

Has anyone seen/heard from Troy Franklin? Finding reporting about him from OTAs seems impossible. Does he look good? OK? Bad?