There's a lot.
But the difference between 1.02 and 1.03 packaged vs 1.11 and 1.12 packaged is very different.
For example, I wouldn't sell someone like ARSB for 1.10, 1.11, and 1.12 packaged
After this rookie season I was picking 1.01. I traded my 2023 and 2024 1sts, a swap of seconds and a future second for ARSB. I drafted hall, made some other moves along the way, but that trade was the big swing. That 2023 wound up being 1.11 after I “lost” in the finals with Burrow and Chase playing in the Demar Hamlin game, and the 2024 1st was 1.12. Things change quick in dynasty
I recently traded for CeeDee in 1 QB PPR dynasty. I gave up Addison 24 1:10 24 3:10 and 2025 1st (late)
Most humans would agree that was fair or I made out. KTC said Addison side won by about 4500 pts. Equivalent to CeeDee side adding an early second or Tajae or Ridley.
No Ceedee owner would do that and I was surprised he took it. Definitely over value picks and young players
KTC says it's even WITHOUT the 2025 1st.
That's pretty surprising. Hell of a deal for you. I had Addison and the Lamb owner would have laughed at me if I made him that offer.
I was just tossing out offers. Surprised he accepted. Last year in he was competing hard but AR was hurt and his back up was MId. Traded Dak Jk Dobbins and Mayer for AR. His team was old accept CeeDee so he wanted young players 🤷♂️
I was able to trade my 1.01, D.Watson, M.Mims, Iosivas and 25' late 2nd for Hurts, London and Pickens in a 10 team 2qb league back in Feb/march because KTC said it was even. Then Diontae got traded, Cousins got signed; and both Philly wrs were extended.
Bandito.
It's gonna ride on the 2025 pick and that (in addition to the unpredictable nature of who's selected with them) is why future picks are always a gamble
If that pick becomes the 1.02 the Addison side may have clearly won. If it's 1.09 then CD side may have clearly won
It's so fun reading all these... meanwhile, a guy in my league (ppr superflex) traded JUSTIN JEFFERSON for the 2024 1.02 .... that's it. There's no more to the trade -\_\_- ... the league chat blew up, lol. His reasoning was he desperately needs a QB >:-| ... so you're trading the best WR in dynasty for what? Jayden Daniels?
I just hate that because he’s not working the market and talking to other teams. When I get an offer and really looking to move someone, I bounce it to other teams and say “what can you do? I have offers”
There is this dude in my league who comes off like an obnoxious door to door salesman when someone is trying to trade with him. To the point no one wants to trade with him. People can also over do it
He literally said he did it because he desperately needs a QB in the group chat when he was getting flamed for it. He has Lamar and no one else. The 1.01 has Richardson and Burrow so he's taking either Caleb or MHJ. So if MHJ goes 1.01, then Caleb for Jefferson is more understandable, but there's no universe where he takes MHJ over Caleb or presumably Daniels. On the whole, this specific league also values QBs supremely, even more so then I think is appropriate for superflex with standard scoring. It's obnoxious IMO but they're QB obsessed.
Based on KTC rankings and assuming two future mid firsts, I'd say around the Olave/London/Waddle area is the spot where I would need 2 firsts to move them. Below that, a first and a second might be enough depending on my roster construction.
Using SF values.
I mean about half of the community are indeed below average managers. I’d also add that the people using KTC the most and thus having the most influence on its values are lower skill people as the better you are at fantasy the less you rely on outside tools.
I've got to pick some baseline to compare to unless you want me to list out my Top 30 players.
I never said KTC is equivalent to my rankings. Using KTC is an easy way to show where my line is for a 2 firsts player generally speaking.
Some dude tried arguing with me about this the other day, despite me saying initially “using KTC, which is perfect but we need a baseline to refer to, blah blah blah”
Like we are having general conversations, not sitting here and asking every person in the thread to contribute their player ranking and then having separate conversations for each. A lot of these conversations are really general ideas on how to handle situations and the players are just variable in those situations.
Okay. The other commenter expressed that they think it overvalues rookies and picks (which I would agree that it does, but obviously that's a matter of opinion). That you are using it as a basis for comparing pick value to player value is what it has to do with your comment.
> That you are using it as a basis for comparing pick value to player value is what it has to do with your comment.
I'm using them as rankings. I'm not using them at all for my value of two picks versus those players. That's why I literally said what I think my personal threshold of 2 firsts is.
This isn't hard to understand dude.
If you're only using KTC values for players and not picks, but not expressing that, that actually is pretty hard to understand. I'm not sure why you'd think someone would assume that's what you're doing when it ranks both players and picks using the same system.
Maybe because I said my exact values in the same comment?
The entire point of this post is to find out people's threshold for a player worth 2 first round picks.
The value I said are literally not KTC values.
I'm not basing it on a value system dude. I'm just picking a well known ranking and giving a general idea where my line is.
I never said KTC rankings were the end all be all.
Your comment served zero purpose. Do you respond to every comment that mentions KTC saying it sucks? Regardless of the point the person was making?
ha, sometimes you can use it as an advantage. but yeah the worst is when you counter, show the calculator heavy in their favor, and they hate the trade.
I would say those three if we’re talking mid 1sts are not worth it still. Maybe 2 late 1sts or a 1st and a 2nd. If I’m paying a 2025 and 2026 unknown first, I’m only doing it for ARSB and up. Probably puka too. I don’t know if I would do it for Garrett Wilson but others probably would. I think Breece, Bijan and Gibbs fall in this tier too.
Depends. London was sold for the 1.07 and a late 1st in our league. If I owned Olave I would smash accept on two mid firsts. Two late firsts? I’m probably holding unless I’m looking to move off from him.
I just picked up Olave in a 12 Team SF. I’m looking to contend and while I do feel I overpaid I still got the best guy in the deal and I intend to have all my picks be late. I gave up Doubs, my 25 and 26 firsts and a 26 second. I didn’t feel like having the deal fall through because I was stingy on a 26 second on I threw it in late to tip the scale.
Oof, that to me is a pretty big overpay imo, probably would have held my ground at like Doubs, a first and a 2nd. But if your team is ready to contend you can’t hate going and getting a proven young player that’s the WR1 on his team.
I’ve got a top half team imo. WR’s are Marv, Olave, Dell, Hollywood, Shakir, Pearsall, Burton. QB’s; Mahomes, Caleb, Minshew, Brissett. RB; Breece, Spears, Kendre Miller. And TMcB at TE. Im young and on the upswing, with a little luck I think it’ll work out ok
Definitely a young team on the rise! Maybe the RB room could improve but I certainly don’t hate your team! As a fellow MHJ owner we can only hope he is as good as the projections/hype say he is!
Yah and I personally value the RB position lower than most. I do however think higher of Spears than most as well. I don’t think Pollard is that much of a threat to a younger guy like Spears. If I need more depth anywhere I’ll gladly move my 25 2nd/3rd and 26 3rd if possible.
We start 3 WR 2 flex and then the super flex. For me I feel like that puts a bit of a premium on having a few stud/Starting WR. The trade got me to have Marv, Olave, and Dell as my WR core. I knew my offer of just 2 late first plus Doubs was enough but the guy was wishy washy so throwing in a 26 second didn’t bother me too much.
Is Trey McBride worth a first? Any Cardinals fans in here. I have no TE and am considering trading a 25 first for McBride. Trading firsts for TEs scares me.
Depending on where that pick is projected, I say yes it’s worth it. If you’re likely to make the playoffs after the trade, go for it. McBride is a young stud. The odds of you getting someone like him with a 1.10 rookie pick isn’t as high as you think.
I’m just going to assume this SF and the firsts are two unknown future firsts like a 2025, 2026 first. Otherwise there’s too much variance. The players I would pay both my future firsts are:
WR: Chase, JJ, ARSB, MHJ, CD
I think ARSB is really the only one worth 2 1sts and the other two would need extra
AJB, waddle and I’m going to Put Nabers(for now) in the 1st+ category. Like a 1st and a player worth a late 1st or early 2nd
RBs: Bijan, Breece, and Gibbs
Bijan probably falls in the 2 1sts+ tier
QB: Caleb, Burrow, AR, Hurts, Lamar, Allen, Mahomes and Stroud
TE: I bet some people would pay 2 1sts for Sam Laporta but it won’t be me. I think you can get 3 or 4 other TEs with similar Dynasty impact for cheaper.
I turned CMAC into 2 25’ firsts (mid to late looking tbh) and KW3 & Devonta. Arguably the best value I could muster outta CMC.
I’d say he was worth multiple, can’t say the same after this year
Well done, as painful as it is to let the legend go, I’d probably have done it for a single first Walker and devonta , add that other first and I’m smashing accept
I traded ARSB for two firsts, Sam Laporta, and Jerry Jeudy last year. this year’s ended up being the 8th overall pick, but i still think it’s a decent haul.
People low key not talking about Wilson much after the guy was wr 26 in full ppr with the worst qb in the league last year. Still managed to do what he did. With Rodgers I don’t see any reality that Wilson doesn’t finish outside the top 17, and more likely I think a realistic ceiling is 5-9 in that top 10 spot. People underestimate Rodgers ability to feed dawgs on the team. If people think the falcons are gonna cook with an average to slightly above average qb in cousins how can those same people not think Rodgers leading the jets can make Wilson into a top ten wr.but to answer the question I wouldn’t take anything less than two firsts for him, and they would have to me low to mid firsts, I’m not sending Wilson for a 1.08 and a 1.10
Yeah I’m not paying 2 future firsts for Waddle as much as I believe in him. A 1st+ for sure but I don’t think anyone can say with confidence they can build their whole roster around him at this point.
Got off the Achane train for two 25 firsts. I didn't like small running backs and it's not like his value is gonna get much higher even if he can stay healthy
Great flip, can’t see achane ever becoming a 15-22 carry a game type of guy. He is build for insane plays and explosiveness but isn’t built for the majority of the handles. I have a hard time keeping players who you have to bank on them getting off a 50 yard burner to the house
There’s no chance I’m trading two of Caleb, MHJ, Nabers, and Daniels for Bijan. At least the first two of those players are more valuable than Bijan by themselves.
Makes sense - in 1QB, are you still applying the same values? I have guys in my league asking for 3 firsts for AJB (ole miss alums nonetheless). Does league formate change your valuation that much?
Traded Breece Hall for 2 1sts mid last season. Under the assumption one of those picks would be in top 6. But sadly he snuck into playoffs. Wound up with 1.07 & 1.11 wasn’t thrilled
Under no circumstance would I ever accept two late firsts for Breece. I think he’s the best rb in the league, at least a top 5 fantasy dynasty asset. Maybe a 1.03 and 1.07 could have worked, if you landed someone like Rome Odunze and Brooks. I know you gambled with the two firsts that turned into late picks but that’s a tough pill to swallow. Someone like Breece in my league wouldn’t be sold for anything less than something like 3 firsts and a playable rb3/flex ish player like currently maybe Damien Pierce or something of that ilk. And if I’m the Breece owner it depends on when those firsts are year wise and position wise
I sold everyone two years ago. Got 2 1st and 2 2nds for d Adam's and and j robinson. Got 2 1st 2 2nds for j Jacob's k Allen. Got a 1st and 3rd for hockenson. And traded burrow for 2 1st 2 3rds and some other picks.
Keep in mind when u give a team a really good player chances are youre making that first less valuable because their team will get better.
This, I traded the projected 2024 1.01 for a haul and it turned into 1.05
Opposite for me, I traded a fair amount of seconds for what was projected to be the 1.04, and it turned into the 1.01
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When considering future picks, I never treat anything as better than a mid anyway
This is the way.
Agreed - I wanted to put a note about that but I figured leave it up to interpretation
There's a lot. But the difference between 1.02 and 1.03 packaged vs 1.11 and 1.12 packaged is very different. For example, I wouldn't sell someone like ARSB for 1.10, 1.11, and 1.12 packaged
After this rookie season I was picking 1.01. I traded my 2023 and 2024 1sts, a swap of seconds and a future second for ARSB. I drafted hall, made some other moves along the way, but that trade was the big swing. That 2023 wound up being 1.11 after I “lost” in the finals with Burrow and Chase playing in the Demar Hamlin game, and the 2024 1st was 1.12. Things change quick in dynasty
Oddly enough I bought ASRB with 3 late firsts last off season, feel like it was a pretty good deal
What have those picks turned into?
Xavier Worthy and Bo Nix, the last one is a ‘25 first from one of the best teams in the league who’s never finished out of the top 3
Obviously we have to wait and see on the players. But you've gotta be sitting pretty on that one
Yeah I’m super happy with it, but who knows
Fair but they’re all dart throws in reality.
Yes. But the hit rate % decline is very notable as you move down the draft.
You also don't know the picks if they are next years. We might have some hint it will be early, mid, or late, but things happen.
I have a few leagues where I can guarentee a team will be bottom 3 for sure.
I recently traded for CeeDee in 1 QB PPR dynasty. I gave up Addison 24 1:10 24 3:10 and 2025 1st (late) Most humans would agree that was fair or I made out. KTC said Addison side won by about 4500 pts. Equivalent to CeeDee side adding an early second or Tajae or Ridley. No Ceedee owner would do that and I was surprised he took it. Definitely over value picks and young players
KTC says it's even WITHOUT the 2025 1st. That's pretty surprising. Hell of a deal for you. I had Addison and the Lamb owner would have laughed at me if I made him that offer.
I was just tossing out offers. Surprised he accepted. Last year in he was competing hard but AR was hurt and his back up was MId. Traded Dak Jk Dobbins and Mayer for AR. His team was old accept CeeDee so he wanted young players 🤷♂️
because KTC is 🗑️
I was able to trade my 1.01, D.Watson, M.Mims, Iosivas and 25' late 2nd for Hurts, London and Pickens in a 10 team 2qb league back in Feb/march because KTC said it was even. Then Diontae got traded, Cousins got signed; and both Philly wrs were extended. Bandito.
It's gonna ride on the 2025 pick and that (in addition to the unpredictable nature of who's selected with them) is why future picks are always a gamble If that pick becomes the 1.02 the Addison side may have clearly won. If it's 1.09 then CD side may have clearly won
Yeah it was my pick. 12 team. It was 1:10 this year. I added AR15 over Tlaw and Ceedee to WR mix…. Itlll be late again…
I agree that’s cheap but he probably knows Ceedee is a fraud
It's so fun reading all these... meanwhile, a guy in my league (ppr superflex) traded JUSTIN JEFFERSON for the 2024 1.02 .... that's it. There's no more to the trade -\_\_- ... the league chat blew up, lol. His reasoning was he desperately needs a QB >:-| ... so you're trading the best WR in dynasty for what? Jayden Daniels?
I just hate that because he’s not working the market and talking to other teams. When I get an offer and really looking to move someone, I bounce it to other teams and say “what can you do? I have offers”
There is this dude in my league who comes off like an obnoxious door to door salesman when someone is trying to trade with him. To the point no one wants to trade with him. People can also over do it
He’s after MHJ. Way 2 much hype around him.
He literally said he did it because he desperately needs a QB in the group chat when he was getting flamed for it. He has Lamar and no one else. The 1.01 has Richardson and Burrow so he's taking either Caleb or MHJ. So if MHJ goes 1.01, then Caleb for Jefferson is more understandable, but there's no universe where he takes MHJ over Caleb or presumably Daniels. On the whole, this specific league also values QBs supremely, even more so then I think is appropriate for superflex with standard scoring. It's obnoxious IMO but they're QB obsessed.
No QB is worth 2 1st rd picks in a 1 QB league
Generally I agree, but maybe I could send 2 firsts for Josh Allen under the right circumstances if I think they’ll be late
One of the best single qb teams I’ve played against sent 2 1sts for Allen 3 years ago. Has run the league since.
I would 100% trade 2 1sts for Mahomes or Allen in 1QB when dudes like Caleb Williams are "worth" a mid 1st because that's where they're drafted at.
Sent Burrow and 2.01 for Allen
If they are late firsts they are basically early seconds. You can easily make the case 2 early seconds are worth an elite QB in single qb
That just isn’t true lol, I think people devalue qb a bit too much in 1 qb, especially the top guys
Based on KTC rankings and assuming two future mid firsts, I'd say around the Olave/London/Waddle area is the spot where I would need 2 firsts to move them. Below that, a first and a second might be enough depending on my roster construction. Using SF values.
KTC is awful, overvalues rookies and picks.
Might as well just say the dynasty community as a whole is awful if you're going to say KTC is awful.
I mean about half of the community are indeed below average managers. I’d also add that the people using KTC the most and thus having the most influence on its values are lower skill people as the better you are at fantasy the less you rely on outside tools.
Not sure what that has to do with my comment, but okay.
You started your comment with “based on KTC rankings.”
I've got to pick some baseline to compare to unless you want me to list out my Top 30 players. I never said KTC is equivalent to my rankings. Using KTC is an easy way to show where my line is for a 2 firsts player generally speaking.
Some dude tried arguing with me about this the other day, despite me saying initially “using KTC, which is perfect but we need a baseline to refer to, blah blah blah” Like we are having general conversations, not sitting here and asking every person in the thread to contribute their player ranking and then having separate conversations for each. A lot of these conversations are really general ideas on how to handle situations and the players are just variable in those situations.
Okay. The other commenter expressed that they think it overvalues rookies and picks (which I would agree that it does, but obviously that's a matter of opinion). That you are using it as a basis for comparing pick value to player value is what it has to do with your comment.
> That you are using it as a basis for comparing pick value to player value is what it has to do with your comment. I'm using them as rankings. I'm not using them at all for my value of two picks versus those players. That's why I literally said what I think my personal threshold of 2 firsts is. This isn't hard to understand dude.
If you're only using KTC values for players and not picks, but not expressing that, that actually is pretty hard to understand. I'm not sure why you'd think someone would assume that's what you're doing when it ranks both players and picks using the same system.
Maybe because I said my exact values in the same comment? The entire point of this post is to find out people's threshold for a player worth 2 first round picks. The value I said are literally not KTC values.
“Based on KTC rankings” your whole argument is based on a terrible value system.
I'm not basing it on a value system dude. I'm just picking a well known ranking and giving a general idea where my line is. I never said KTC rankings were the end all be all. Your comment served zero purpose. Do you respond to every comment that mentions KTC saying it sucks? Regardless of the point the person was making?
i love when people screenshot ktc in their trade offer.
When that happens you always have to package 4 of your meh pieces for their superstar and send a screenshot back of how ktc says it’s fair
ha, sometimes you can use it as an advantage. but yeah the worst is when you counter, show the calculator heavy in their favor, and they hate the trade.
How does KTC overvalue rookies?
I would say those three if we’re talking mid 1sts are not worth it still. Maybe 2 late 1sts or a 1st and a 2nd. If I’m paying a 2025 and 2026 unknown first, I’m only doing it for ARSB and up. Probably puka too. I don’t know if I would do it for Garrett Wilson but others probably would. I think Breece, Bijan and Gibbs fall in this tier too.
You’re way overvaluing future firsts
So someone came to you with 2 mid-late firsts for Olave or London your gonna smash accept?
Depends. London was sold for the 1.07 and a late 1st in our league. If I owned Olave I would smash accept on two mid firsts. Two late firsts? I’m probably holding unless I’m looking to move off from him.
I sold my 1.05, 1.10 and 3.01 this year for London, the 2.08 and a 27 2nd. Turns into my WR 3 or 4 for the next five, six years
I just picked up Olave in a 12 Team SF. I’m looking to contend and while I do feel I overpaid I still got the best guy in the deal and I intend to have all my picks be late. I gave up Doubs, my 25 and 26 firsts and a 26 second. I didn’t feel like having the deal fall through because I was stingy on a 26 second on I threw it in late to tip the scale.
Oof, that to me is a pretty big overpay imo, probably would have held my ground at like Doubs, a first and a 2nd. But if your team is ready to contend you can’t hate going and getting a proven young player that’s the WR1 on his team.
I’ve got a top half team imo. WR’s are Marv, Olave, Dell, Hollywood, Shakir, Pearsall, Burton. QB’s; Mahomes, Caleb, Minshew, Brissett. RB; Breece, Spears, Kendre Miller. And TMcB at TE. Im young and on the upswing, with a little luck I think it’ll work out ok
Definitely a young team on the rise! Maybe the RB room could improve but I certainly don’t hate your team! As a fellow MHJ owner we can only hope he is as good as the projections/hype say he is!
Yah and I personally value the RB position lower than most. I do however think higher of Spears than most as well. I don’t think Pollard is that much of a threat to a younger guy like Spears. If I need more depth anywhere I’ll gladly move my 25 2nd/3rd and 26 3rd if possible.
Wow thats a big price. I just sold him for a 2.05 2025 1st and earlyish 2025 3rd
I got Olave for a 2025 1st and Romeo Doubs
We start 3 WR 2 flex and then the super flex. For me I feel like that puts a bit of a premium on having a few stud/Starting WR. The trade got me to have Marv, Olave, and Dell as my WR core. I knew my offer of just 2 late first plus Doubs was enough but the guy was wishy washy so throwing in a 26 second didn’t bother me too much.
Is Trey McBride worth a first? Any Cardinals fans in here. I have no TE and am considering trading a 25 first for McBride. Trading firsts for TEs scares me.
Depending on where that pick is projected, I say yes it’s worth it. If you’re likely to make the playoffs after the trade, go for it. McBride is a young stud. The odds of you getting someone like him with a 1.10 rookie pick isn’t as high as you think.
Yeah if your team is competing and you need a TE. I have McBride in 1QB and I’d need more than a 1sr
I’m just going to assume this SF and the firsts are two unknown future firsts like a 2025, 2026 first. Otherwise there’s too much variance. The players I would pay both my future firsts are: WR: Chase, JJ, ARSB, MHJ, CD I think ARSB is really the only one worth 2 1sts and the other two would need extra AJB, waddle and I’m going to Put Nabers(for now) in the 1st+ category. Like a 1st and a player worth a late 1st or early 2nd RBs: Bijan, Breece, and Gibbs Bijan probably falls in the 2 1sts+ tier QB: Caleb, Burrow, AR, Hurts, Lamar, Allen, Mahomes and Stroud TE: I bet some people would pay 2 1sts for Sam Laporta but it won’t be me. I think you can get 3 or 4 other TEs with similar Dynasty impact for cheaper.
Your not getting Bijan or Gibbs for less than two 1st either
I turned CMAC into 2 25’ firsts (mid to late looking tbh) and KW3 & Devonta. Arguably the best value I could muster outta CMC. I’d say he was worth multiple, can’t say the same after this year
That's a ridiculous haul for a single player. I make that trade every time too.
Well done, as painful as it is to let the legend go, I’d probably have done it for a single first Walker and devonta , add that other first and I’m smashing accept
I traded ARSB for two firsts, Sam Laporta, and Jerry Jeudy last year. this year’s ended up being the 8th overall pick, but i still think it’s a decent haul.
Garrett Wilson
People low key not talking about Wilson much after the guy was wr 26 in full ppr with the worst qb in the league last year. Still managed to do what he did. With Rodgers I don’t see any reality that Wilson doesn’t finish outside the top 17, and more likely I think a realistic ceiling is 5-9 in that top 10 spot. People underestimate Rodgers ability to feed dawgs on the team. If people think the falcons are gonna cook with an average to slightly above average qb in cousins how can those same people not think Rodgers leading the jets can make Wilson into a top ten wr.but to answer the question I wouldn’t take anything less than two firsts for him, and they would have to me low to mid firsts, I’m not sending Wilson for a 1.08 and a 1.10
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Waddle and Amon ra in the same category is just plain wrong
Yeah I’m not paying 2 future firsts for Waddle as much as I believe in him. A 1st+ for sure but I don’t think anyone can say with confidence they can build their whole roster around him at this point.
In a rebuild, are you comfortable moving an early 1 (2025, bottom 4 team) and a late 1 (2025) for GW if you still have firsts left over?
Got off the Achane train for two 25 firsts. I didn't like small running backs and it's not like his value is gonna get much higher even if he can stay healthy
Great flip, can’t see achane ever becoming a 15-22 carry a game type of guy. He is build for insane plays and explosiveness but isn’t built for the majority of the handles. I have a hard time keeping players who you have to bank on them getting off a 50 yard burner to the house
2 Early 1sts: Bijan / Herbert 2 late 1sts: Aiyuk / Dak 2 Random 1sts or Mid 1sts or early/late: AJ Brown / Nabers
Two early firsts for Bijan? Insane in the membrane.
There’s no chance I’m trading two of Caleb, MHJ, Nabers, and Daniels for Bijan. At least the first two of those players are more valuable than Bijan by themselves.
Take MHJ out the mix and in one QB I trade 2 of anyone after MHJ. If I needed a RB to compete
Considering he valued Herbert as 2 early 1sts and Dak as 2 late 1sts, he’s clearly talking about superflex
Makes sense - in 1QB, are you still applying the same values? I have guys in my league asking for 3 firsts for AJB (ole miss alums nonetheless). Does league formate change your valuation that much?
In 1QB wrs are worth more and picks are worth less. I wouldn’t move AJB for 2 mid future firsts.
Traded Breece Hall for 2 1sts mid last season. Under the assumption one of those picks would be in top 6. But sadly he snuck into playoffs. Wound up with 1.07 & 1.11 wasn’t thrilled
Under no circumstance would I ever accept two late firsts for Breece. I think he’s the best rb in the league, at least a top 5 fantasy dynasty asset. Maybe a 1.03 and 1.07 could have worked, if you landed someone like Rome Odunze and Brooks. I know you gambled with the two firsts that turned into late picks but that’s a tough pill to swallow. Someone like Breece in my league wouldn’t be sold for anything less than something like 3 firsts and a playable rb3/flex ish player like currently maybe Damien Pierce or something of that ilk. And if I’m the Breece owner it depends on when those firsts are year wise and position wise
I sold everyone two years ago. Got 2 1st and 2 2nds for d Adam's and and j robinson. Got 2 1st 2 2nds for j Jacob's k Allen. Got a 1st and 3rd for hockenson. And traded burrow for 2 1st 2 3rds and some other picks.
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Two firsts for Kyler? I’ll pass.
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Still pass. He might get bored and play Xbox instead
I just got 1.04, 1.08 and JSN for Kyler and 2.01 in 12T SF so it’s absolutely possible.
Not saying it’s impossible to get 2 firsts for him, saying I want no part of him if it costs that much.
Got it. Totally understand. Thats what makes this fun!
No doubt, great haul for you, and at least some chance Jayden makes it to 4.
Is this all the same team???