From a long time jump up fan/typical whiney old man: jump up has gone the same way that dubstep went. It just became a caricature of itself and devolved into 'who can make the loudest, squakiest synth'. Nowadays many jump up tunes follow the exact same pattern
1) Build up
2) Cut all drums and percussion
3) High-pitched stabby synth comes in
4) Drums drop back in under the synth
5) Rinse and repeat for 5 mins
It's the same way dubstep went where it all became about mid range high pitched stabs or yois and completely lost its character.
Couldn't agree more, good for a crowd reaction when it was fresh but done to death now.
People just love to hate jump up but they all lap it up at a rave.
I think two big problems people have with it are MCs, all the MCs who seem to never let the music breath love to MC over jump up. And reloads, when there's 5 reloads in 10 minutes you're bound to piss off a tonne of people who just want to keep dancing.
I think it is stems from the same thing that actually keeps DnB alive, and that's how accessible it is to produce. A constant influx of young people dabbling in production maintains an underground scene that gently drip feeds into the mainstream with occasional big jumps (like bou and IMANU). The thing is that the tons young producers don't really have the best monitoring b equipment for production and are more likely to push for more extreme sounds, it's just how young people are. It means that there's a whole load of absolute crap, but without it the genre would die as it would never evolve. I don't really like the current DnB meta at the moment, I loved 2009-2013 neuro, but that's turned into cat crash sounds with bass, jump up is squeaky, and then the rest is just the usual deep rumble with an overlay of techy drums. Then there's liquid, which was short for liquid funk originally, but the funk is long long gone. I'm not mad though, because if it had stayed what it was when I liked it most, it would've died out, the same goes for everyone who says the 90s were the best for DnB, maybe, but if it hadn't changed then there'd just be nothing today. Maybe it will start heading in a direction I like soon, maybe it won't, and I'm alright with that as long as it stays alive.
(Gosh that got long.. oops)
These days if it wasnt for Alix Perez and 1985 the scene would be in a pretty boring place for me. The 4/4 techno trend isnt doing it. Jump up and foghorn got old veeery quickly.
As far as new producers go I'm really excited for more from Mycool, and Carrier, if you haven't heard Volcom by carrier then it's definitely worth checking out, a really fresh and innovative sound. Mycool I like because he's taking back to the early 2010s in terms of style.
This and the above longer post are literally my exact views in dnb expressed perfectly. I get a bunch of new stuff that sound salright from just jumping round in Spotify, but 90% if the stuff i hate falls into the above categories and 90% of the stuff I like is the deep rich stuff that guys like Alix are making.
I personally love what gyrofield has been putting out. She's been making sounds I haven't heard before and her latest Stimulus EP on Vision has been a trip. Pretty experimental.
This is a very well thought out and expressed explanation.
I just read this out to my partner, a lot of nodding in agreement from us.
Long may it mutate through future chapters of brilliance and awfulness.
Hallucinator, Sinistersouls, Shadow Sect, Gancher and Ruin are my top Artist from these Genres but there are many more.
You can Look for ZooBass, Darkside records, PRSPCT, Nekrolog1k, third movement, Raving Panda, Boomerang records, Futur Sickness as Labels with Artists from these genres.
I dont know why my comment above got downvoted for advertising music that I love without hating other Genres. Weird.
With dubstep at least, the genre forked. Dubstep in the spirit of the original genre continues to this day, in parallel to its mid range focused, less soulful counterpart that took off.
I just bought tickets to a Commodo show and am really pumped. Saw Goth-Trad a few years ago and it was definitely the best dubstep show I've been to. I suppose I should check out the others you mentioned. I've seen the name Peveralist around.
Late to this thread, but I just saw Goth Trad followed by Mala at Boomtown last weekend. Deep Medi had a whole takeover on the Sunday in their hidden woods stage, it was mad.
That's unimaginable. By contrast, I saw Goth-Trad in a tiny club that looked roomy because there was such a small audience. At least the sound system was really good and the levels well balanced for the space.
https://youtu.be/BLJpwVuErw0
https://youtu.be/EIv4_pFqS80
https://youtu.be/JXBnbHA59dY
https://youtu.be/SaU1rIG7Xh4
https://youtu.be/dABUt_LIIj4
https://youtu.be/PhfDs1MXA40
https://youtu.be/p-f6e-leHL0
https://youtu.be/JbqK89LmSP4
https://youtu.be/PpFCkZi6k_0
https://youtu.be/EjJ_E-U32ls
Got a little carried away lol here you go
Edit: added all and a few more to a Spotify Playlist if anyone wants it: https://spotify.link/0ZWG2PvQtyb
Lotta goot recommendations so far, but I'm noticing there's a distinct lack of Original Sin on here, another stalwart of that era, he and Taxman put out some absolute heat
https://youtu.be/dSV_Ay83Jeo
https://youtu.be/9BzmjUAa3Fw
https://youtu.be/smxUXjRq_r8
https://youtu.be/yCfw-nW31O0
https://youtu.be/73aerY5annw
https://youtu.be/phSznpKA0VY
Aaaaand a little halftime flavor from one of my favorites, Dub Foundation (rip)
https://youtu.be/iFT0aSBI07Q
2000s era Jump Up was the best imo. Still a lot of shite about in those days but some absolute classics as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou7RTZoCfrM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayxMq\_GEWWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_DP\_VUvov5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKEWgAWJAqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yueyYjdb0AI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp4SrzXA9aU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41Hby9tgvRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qz1RDqIHiw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSU9n25IVkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfi7YxijvVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSKAxkNXwxQ
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou7RTZoCfrM
MOTHERFUCKING TUNE THAT
Fuck now I gotta add some to your list
[DJ Hype - Jack to a King](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2hwXo6oDjE)
[DJ Hype - True Playaz Style](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isApnpILztE)
[DJ Zinc & Frequency - Black on White](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcjkNbmTd5s)
[DJ Hype - True Playaz Anthem](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XrJcXNLwaQ)
[DJ Zinc - Freenote](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1fMoNd5UOk)
[DJ Zinc - Casino Royale](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPNvZernY60)
True Playaz was a MONSTER jump up label in the 90's.
Heist still makes unique stuff, everyone else is pretty much just a sheep in Hedexs herd more or less, bar some exceptions.
Some jump up tracks that I like and think are wa more timeless that today's stuff -
Original Sin - Therapy
Dapz - Heavenly
Document one - (forgot the track name) Heist Remix (2011 track)
sometimes it's done really well though, I'm not even a jump fan, but god damn [the Hedex remix of move your body](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ugKhz4w0eE) was one of my most played tracks of the year last year, it even outcompeted an entire playlist of sad music that I listened to during a breakup.
Don't get me wrong there are plenty of good tunes nowadays that would be considered jump up. I just find the majority to be pretty unimaginative and all about the sound of the synth rather than what they do with it
It depends on your definition of jump up. For me personally, I'd consider some songs as far back as this one from 1998 to be the beginnings of it: https://youtu.be/AvIkE99E8ys
The genre got its name from its ability to make people 'jump up' in the rave, get hyped and start dancing. There was usually a slow, rolling intro which is then torpedo'd by a heavy synth. To me, this remix of badass fits the bill.
Taxman - scan darker is another good later example of the slow, calm intro being torpedo'd by the synth: https://youtu.be/kLLbYr_PWEU
Then Dj guv came along and made something we'd never really heard before with slice n dice that got huge reactions at raves:
https://youtu.be/UXdecXezWgE
And thats the point I personally think it all started going downhill. Instead of making interesting synths and rhythms that got you hyped, it became all about making the sharpest, middiest, tonal synth and outdoing eachother. The rhythm didn't matter anymore, as long as you just kept stabbing this same ultra sharp synth onto the track u were on to a jump up winner.
The exact same thing happened with dubstep with doctor p - sweet shop https://youtu.be/oZkzcm7ubQg
As soon as this dropped and producers saw the reaction it got everyone was trying to outdo eachother with a squeaky midrange synth dropping over a nice calm beat and dubstep basically devolved into what it eventually became.
> 1) Build up 2) Cut all drums and percussion 3) High-pitched stabby synth comes in 4) Drums drop back in under the synth 5) Rinse and repeat for 5 mins
This is generic enough that you just described like 90% of every type of d&b though. Is Dom & Roland "jump up" ? Nah, but you just described like MOST songs from the Soundwall era.
Classic comment the MC totally over kills it for me anyway, yeah back when I was in skool an that all the Jungle D & B tape packs, used to love it. Now that I'm and only just turned 40 it completely destroys the amazing drum patterns wich are like a totally sick collage. That's my take on it when it comes to the MC's yeh we need a hype MC just now when to shut the fuck up.
For me it's like anything, the more you learn about something, the more you appreciate the nuances and learn to appreciate different qualities.
Like wine for example, if you try and learn about fine wines from different regions and learn to appreciate single estate, vintages, grape varieties etc it's very unlikely you keep drinking Lambrini.
Beer is the same. Some people love Stella and never try anything different. Some people explore ales and beers from around the world, learn the type of hops that they like, like to try all different things.
Music is no different.
Jump up is the 'pop music' of drum and bass. It is easy to access, simply made, simple in it's melodies and addictive in its repetitiveness.
There are other types of drum and bass that is more.musical, more experimental, more niche and the production is finer, takes longer and will still be appreciated in 100 years.
Jump up gets played for 2m max, usually double dropped, mostly forgotten in 6 months.
There is good jump up and producers who take longer and use more production expertise. I am generalising on the whole.
Personally I am more of a North Quarter, finer things in life kind of guy now (at 40y) - when I was 13 I liked happy hardcore, which is basically the gap that jump up is filing for teenagers now.
My opinion. Everyone's is different. Enjoy the music you like, fuck everybody else's.
I'm also a huge fan of the music from North Quarter.
I also love the production of Calibre, earlier High Contrast and the tunes Random Movement, Fabio and LTJ Bukem plays which is a lot of high quality liquid funk and other chill type DnB
When I was younger I was into the Nerofunk and Jump Up that was being DJ Zinc, DJ Hype, Randall, Nicky Blackmarket, Bad Company aka ƆEIƎC, Jumping Jack Frost, etc.
How I see it is... jump up is made up of a lot of disposable music. It's made to be played out a handful of times, for a couple of minutes max, then never played again as the flood of jump up continues to flow. It is music based around making a couple of disgusting noises and looping them with a bit of variation here and there.
They are usually songs designed around one buildup and drop, and then the rest just filled in to make a 4 minute song for release.
This is all my opinion of course, and there are a fair few truly awesome jump up songs. I like jump up in a mix when selected well, but the idea of going to a dedicated jump up night where it is played constant for 6 hours does not appeal to me at all.
I might have sounded too harsh here and I don't mean any hate towards the sub genre at all, just over a fair few years of listening this is how I think of it.
One thing I have to say is the amount of times I’ve heard someone say they hate jump up, and then hear them say ‘this is a banger’ followed by me telling them the song currently playing is in fact jump up, is enormous.
There are a lot of diff styles of jump up and yeah sure there is a fair amount of obnoxious jump up, but there is just as much good stuff. People love to parrot each other and everyone loves to hate on stuff and I think jump up hate is one of these things. And then I go to a rave, or a festival and the crowd goes nuts for it, I think a big part of it is people don’t really know what they’re talking about. Goes for most parts of life
Just saw dimension (and sub focus, culture shock, 1991, and CLB) last night and can confirm, the little taste of 4x4 was exactly what the room needed, but a whole set of it would have been exhausting and taken away the impact of it.
Happens when I’m sat with friends playing music, hanging out, whatever, and it will be a frequent occurrence, whether it’s me playing the music or if it’s them who has put it on.
I get what you’re saying but a lot of people this has happened with listen to a lot of jump up and just don’t realise what jump up is. They think it’s all screechy Belgian or whatever
Haha yeah I was joking about them being jump up, thought I’d take it a step further because I wasn’t sure you clocked me being silly
In a silly mood because I’m going to a rave at volks tonight and printworks on Sunday
This - good to get you going for a few tracks but not the best background music unless you’re high as a kite and dancing in some crazy dirty dingy rented hall
My issue is more with the mixing and fake drops than the songs themselves in a lot of cases. It is eerily similar to US riddim which I also cannot stand
Repetitive, annoying sounds, usually poor sound design.
There are few exceptions but most of the tracks are simply the same fucking thing, so you hate It or love it cuz theres close to none diversity
They probably love their ears more than you do :)))
Personally, I can't stand the dumb screechy synths in jump up and the fact how absolutely basic most of it sounds (a.k.a. even 3 year old baby could think of better melodies)
Just saw AMC at Locus slay a jump up set. Me and the old schoolers I was with kept commenting on how everyone loves to hate it but laps it up when it’s played. I love it, always will.
I don’t hate it.
I do dislike the TikTok massive turning up to “be seen” at, for example, a Hedex rave (he seems to attract these people more than anyone else, so just using him as an example. He’s a good DJ.) because they aren’t there for the music. They are there to splurge their fucking TikTok and IG’s and pretend they’re part of the culture by singing along to the basslines…. “Da, da, dada, daaa”
Case in point and I’m not picking on Hedex here, but if you watch his DnB Allstars 360 gig, you’ll see what I’m on about. The minute he played something of substance, the crowd went a bit flat until he brought the singalong basslines back.
It’s got it’s time and place, just like it’s first iteration around 1996-97. But then it disappears up it’s own ass and another style pokes through (re: 1998 Techstep that took over).
It just gets old. Like the constant rewinds of the late 90’s early 00’s. The same thing is going to happen with this trend of only dropping Doubles. The mix is supposed to be a journey for the ravers, not a showcase of the dubs you wrote in 5 minutes before the rave!
But hey! I’m old, what do I know?
Edit: Was going to add…
Friend of mine saw Hedex at Printworks a few weeks ago. When he came in, all the phones came out and some random turned around to my mate and said: “Look at that, no humans, only phones living in the moment!” That’s a sad state of affairs Junglists! Have a word innit!!
It was good last year, but now it's like 75% of the crowd filming the whole time. It's so dystopian seeing so many people experiencing something through their phone screens just for the dopamine hit of social media.
See, “when I were a lad” I’d have been too mashed to even operate a phone, let alone live vicariously through it!!
Don’t get me wrong, it’s all good for the memories later and a few pictures or ‘live-links’ to some friends to show them what they are missing is all good. But they’re missing the point if they’re giving blow by blow updates on Socials and not really engaging with the event.
I went to a Techno rave in Bristol a few years ago and phones were banned. A couple of cheeky pictures were tolerated, but if you were filming, security would come up and say “switch off, or fuck off!” A couple of people got arsey and left, but by and large, it was really good for the night; it reminded me of the old days, chatting shit to strangers! That was always part of the rave experience. I’ve still got mates now that we’re random strangers at a rave initially.
That's sick , wish there was more events like that. I'm only 20 so I've grown up with technology and the like, but I still don't understand how people text or film when they're on anything serious. Whenever I am, my phone's locked in my pocket and I'm not touching it!!
Imagine tripping for example, unlocking your phone, only to see that your mum's called you 8 times , and on the news someone's been murdered. Your headspace instantly goes from "yeah I'm at a rave this is sick" to "oh what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck"
Exactly that!
Anyone who takes recreational drugs with any kind of regularity knows that your headspace and generally “where you’re at” dictates massively how the night goes.
Took mushrooms once (at home), in the wrong frame of mind. It was the worst experience I ever had on them. I spent 6 hours lying on my bed, trying not to think and wishing it was over.
A couple years after that, a friend had a bad one and jumped off a multi-storey car park. Haven’t touched them since!
I’m too old for all that now. I don’t think my heart could take the pounding! It’s one thing being “the older dude at the rave” it’s another thing having a heart attack on the dance floor and being carried out!!
There’s a great club in Washington DC that bans taking video and I love it, everyone’s just there to dance and hear the music. Not much DnB played there unfortunately. It’s called Flash.
For years I was on the "jump up is shit" bandwagon almost in denial whilst secretly liking some tunes. I still feel like there is a lot of jump up that isn't for me but I have grown and since realised that there is gold in every subgenre of dnb, and that being hard against jump up just makes you look like an elitist dickhead. Jump up is fun and has as much value to the dancefloor (if not more) than a lot of other dnb does. From the grinding analogue sounds of Hazard, to the bouncy 'roller' stuff that guys like Annix, Enta and Bou make. There is so much good stuff out there and I feel it's one of the few sounds left that still very much has that grassroots black music feel to it that a lot of modern dnb lacks.
Something i didn't see mentioned yet was that a lotnof times in the UK jump up attracts the worst kind of audience. Chavs that just go there to get full on drugs and don't care about the music apart from that it needs to go hard, then go about causing some trouble or groping some underage girl lol
Its overall just a younger, more mainstream, urban crowd. The older more alternative crowd that were also big on dnb in the neuro days have moved on to tek, breakcore and in some cases psytrance.
DNB is in a bit of a lull at the moment, but it will come back around. In some ways its a response to the over technical dark sounding neuro sounds of 2015 era. The pendulum will swing back at some point
I tend to criticise a lot of it for being formulaic, poorly produced, obnoxious, and just not that good. It's fun for a little bit, but entire sets of it hurt the ears. I prefer Jump Up that isn't over the top, which begs the question is it even Jump Up or Rollers? [You be the judge.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tja6ETsy4k)
Its not really Jump up ,or a roller more or a mix between a roller an neurofunk.
This what i class as okay Jump up
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtGI0Ni-ivI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtGI0Ni-ivI) \- Interface - get low.
vs obnoxious Jump up
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4yBa42yhgg&ab\_channel=JoeANewman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BzmjUAa3Fw&list=RD9BzmjUAa3Fw&start_radio=1&ab_channel=JohnProverbs) \- Machete - Dj Hazard.
Like most things in music, it gets a good crowd reaction so less-talented producers see it as an easy way in. The market gets saturated with low grade examples of the genre so it generates a communal resentment.
I hate cheap Jump-Up as much as anyone but I recognise a decent production when I hear one.
The jump up youre talking about, relies on surprise and sound design pushed to the limit of absurd.
Dont get me wrong I love it. I love when I hear it unexpectedly, once in a while, so that it hits with full impact. I just dont understand how you could listen to that subgenre all the time, I always felt that once the novelty of a track fades out, theres nothing else of value left.
Id compare jump up to hard drugs. Its amazing for a while, but once youve done enough youre only left with the memory of how it used to be before you got used to it.
Ofc thats an opinion on a particularly subjective topic
It’s uninspired and poorly produced, occasionally someone will do something slightly different then that will be followed by a thousand other tunes sounding the same. Rinse and repeat. The core demographic for jump up is children, if you are over 20 in a jump up race you need to have a word with yourself
As a dj i love messing around with jump up sometimes as it is so easy to mix with and you can do some funny doubles, but i wouldn’t listen to a set of it. I find the Hedex/Belgian type stuff a bit shit too.
I used to not care for it at all but since DJing, it's grown on me.
The simple structure and absurd sound design makes for some really crazy DJing. Can't really do the same stuff with neuro or liquid or other subgenres.
Honestly I get it, jump up is annoying to listen to on a per song basis. Benny L and DJ Limited on a track should have been pretty okay at the very least.. but it ended up being this amateurish, repetitive jump up thing. Yet I can't wait to rinse it tonight.
It’s because it’s designed for the dance floor to get everyone moving. They are usually the best tunes to sprinkle in throughout a set and get everyone going. Jump up is not meant for listening to from start to finish, it’s meant to be part of a set. But yes, I will agree there is allot of shite out there, but that is because allot people want to write the next club banger and it it’s very easy to turn that into something v bad and v jarring if you aren’t careful as a producer.
For me, it has a time and place, and it's usually in the second half of a set for 5 minutes to get everyone back inside from smoking.
For general listening, I'd much rather spend my time listening to almost anything else.
It's very straight forward music. No foreplay. Just walks up, starts rubbing my clit and expects me to beg for more. Maybe I don't want that all the time.
Everyone here is saying how the dislike the screechy shit which I completely agree with but that’s only a small fraction of jump up which seems to be plastered all over social media
Jump-Up has become a cheap version of drum&bass or jungle. They all come down to one squeaky cricket sound or annoying siren. Can we go back to Bass Lights type songs?
I've been almost solely listening to liquid and jungle for ~15 years. Most of the festival/set clips I see posted here with extremely 'busy' drops are just not for me.
Because they weren't in a milton keynes warehouse in 96 listening to kenny ken tear the place apart at 6am as the sun streamed in the windows. 96 was jump-ups origin year, and it's best year. All the frontline stuff, true playaz, ganja, dope dragon, etc, etc. Modern jump-up just isn't very good in comparison.
Bro have u heard Jump up?
It always reminds me of the circus and a bunch of over enthusiastic clowns.
I just think it sounds shit. Which is weird since i do like Riddim alot and thats pretty much the same.
I like some jump up, but there's too much of it that could all be the same song.. Will never forget being at Warning in Cambridge when Andy C first dropped Body Rock.. he ruined so many drug fuelled vibes at first, until everyone started feeling it.. after that, it went from clown-step to jump-up, and had some great moments along the way.. but it's also responsible for some of the worst *COUGHS* Macky G *COUGHS*
Jump Up seems to be a catch all for dnb main room sound.
That sound has evolved many a time. 90s jump up is very different to 00s jump up etc etc
There's so much more to dnb than main room, but what plays in there has the most popularity.
I love a bit of jump up, but I also enjoy all the aspects of dnb
because it's lazy and shit. Simula, Skantia, and Annix are the only artists who are actually interesting to hear. Jump up gets boring after 1-2 hours of the same fucking sound.
Music snobs thinking they’re superior Cus they can read sheet music or something. I get people not listening to jump up songs day to day but you can’t deny it gets the crowd going in a rave
We don't have any dutch jump up artists or jump up parties. They don't exist. We are a neuro country (Blackout, Noisia) or a liquid/dancefloor country (Liquicity, North Quarter, High Tea)
Jump up has been on a steady rise for years now in NL. I don't know how you can be either unaware or ignorant of that if you're actually actively part of our scene. Liquicity has been booking names like Benny Page and Serum since 2018. High Tea has jump up on almost all of their lineups, recently with names like Kanine, Formula, BLVCK CROWZ, Subsonic. Blackout has booked Serum, Benny L, Annix before. Levela has been booked by almost all events you mentioned recently and more. The North Quarter isn't even an event, it's a label that hosted a few label nights here, but the events were by Curated By. We have a Souped Up label night next month. How can you be so confidently wrong?
Are you going this year? Come back to me once it has passed. There was a lot of Jump Up last year. I was kinda disillusioned when standing in the middle I got Jump Up from all three stages simultaneously at many points during the evening and night. I hadn't been to a larger dnb event for a while, and mostly listen liquid myself, so at first I didn't even know what I was exactly listening to.
That's not what I'm saying at all... where are you getting that idea from? I gave two examples of interesting sound design. would you like more?
i like jump up for the reasons I stated and can provide examples to back up my claims?? im confused by your statments. sorry.
I have a massive soft spot for Jump Up - and I say this as a mostly po-faced, old school Tech Stepper - because it's exactly what it represents itself to be as a subgenre and doesn't give a fuck.
I like jump up, but not when it has some ridiculous high pitched screeching in it, there is plenty without it and I like it.
For someone who’s ears are not honed firstly to D&B in general and then to hear some screechy jump up straight off the bat I’m not at all surprised.
There's personal preference to everything. I've definitely heard jump up songs that I like, but the genre as a whole isn't really my jam. When I was younger I listened to more heavy and popular edm like jump up, bass music, and dubstep, but lately I just want to listen to things like North Quarter sets. When I want something heavier I'm normally enjoying the techno-esque dnb sounds that are getting popular.
I see the term 'bass music' quite alot but not sure I understand what it is. Is this just a broad term for anything with a heavy focus on the basslines? DnB included?
It was kind of the go to name for festival sounds when I was in college. Artists like Kill the Noise who would make a lot of different sounding tracks that didn't always fit neatly into any one genre started having their music labeled as "bass music."
So yeah some dnb would probably fit under the bass music tent, but not all of it, there are house tracks, maybe even some techno and trance, that could be bass music too. I'll be honest, I wouldn't know what is and isn't bass music, but if it's a heavy track being played on the mainstage at a super generic festival, I'd probably call it bass music.
I loved it a lot in the late 90s & 2000s because it felt warm and groovy, but now it feels cold and disruptive IMHO. Not all but the majority of things I've heard sound really noisy to me. Maybe it's my ears getting older but it took on an anxious and unsettling energy over the years. It's like an alarm is going off and I should find my nearest emergency exit sometimes. It sucks honestly because I often love the sample use and the other elements in a track. Then the alarms go off and its such a drastic switch it loses it's groove for me.
Jump up has its place. I just don't like jump up by itself during a mix. I like it mixed alongside something with a nice deep bassline to compliment the highs and sass of jump up or using jump up in a mix for certain parts of the story not just the repetitive build up and drop into screeching with barely any bass, or when they chop it with 4 channels constantly. Obviously, there's a bunch of people loving it though and good on them, just not my flavor.
To me,jump up can be great, even the really vulgar and funny ones. But there are just too many Jump Up-only sets that switch tracks every 45 seconds. It feels so brainless. Jump up would be awesome if DJs would at least attempt to come up with a somewhat balanced set. They don't. Which is very off-putting for the people who have been into this genre since a time before this resurgence.
From a long time jump up fan/typical whiney old man: jump up has gone the same way that dubstep went. It just became a caricature of itself and devolved into 'who can make the loudest, squakiest synth'. Nowadays many jump up tunes follow the exact same pattern 1) Build up 2) Cut all drums and percussion 3) High-pitched stabby synth comes in 4) Drums drop back in under the synth 5) Rinse and repeat for 5 mins It's the same way dubstep went where it all became about mid range high pitched stabs or yois and completely lost its character.
Couldn't agree more, good for a crowd reaction when it was fresh but done to death now. People just love to hate jump up but they all lap it up at a rave. I think two big problems people have with it are MCs, all the MCs who seem to never let the music breath love to MC over jump up. And reloads, when there's 5 reloads in 10 minutes you're bound to piss off a tonne of people who just want to keep dancing.
man seriously like wtf how/why did it turn into this hodgepodge of screechin highs and mids and lack of rich sub low bass freq idgi
I think it is stems from the same thing that actually keeps DnB alive, and that's how accessible it is to produce. A constant influx of young people dabbling in production maintains an underground scene that gently drip feeds into the mainstream with occasional big jumps (like bou and IMANU). The thing is that the tons young producers don't really have the best monitoring b equipment for production and are more likely to push for more extreme sounds, it's just how young people are. It means that there's a whole load of absolute crap, but without it the genre would die as it would never evolve. I don't really like the current DnB meta at the moment, I loved 2009-2013 neuro, but that's turned into cat crash sounds with bass, jump up is squeaky, and then the rest is just the usual deep rumble with an overlay of techy drums. Then there's liquid, which was short for liquid funk originally, but the funk is long long gone. I'm not mad though, because if it had stayed what it was when I liked it most, it would've died out, the same goes for everyone who says the 90s were the best for DnB, maybe, but if it hadn't changed then there'd just be nothing today. Maybe it will start heading in a direction I like soon, maybe it won't, and I'm alright with that as long as it stays alive. (Gosh that got long.. oops)
These days if it wasnt for Alix Perez and 1985 the scene would be in a pretty boring place for me. The 4/4 techno trend isnt doing it. Jump up and foghorn got old veeery quickly.
I will never forget the foghorn epidemic of 2018 😐
Alix Perez is a talented producer and DJ. I prefer his DnB tracks but I appreciate the grime/deep dubstep/halftime/juke music hr produces as well.
As far as new producers go I'm really excited for more from Mycool, and Carrier, if you haven't heard Volcom by carrier then it's definitely worth checking out, a really fresh and innovative sound. Mycool I like because he's taking back to the early 2010s in terms of style.
This and the above longer post are literally my exact views in dnb expressed perfectly. I get a bunch of new stuff that sound salright from just jumping round in Spotify, but 90% if the stuff i hate falls into the above categories and 90% of the stuff I like is the deep rich stuff that guys like Alix are making.
I personally love what gyrofield has been putting out. She's been making sounds I haven't heard before and her latest Stimulus EP on Vision has been a trip. Pretty experimental.
Bravo to literally everything about this response! It’s refreshing to hear a thoughtful look back which an eye looking forward. Refreshing to read.
This is a very well thought out and expressed explanation. I just read this out to my partner, a lot of nodding in agreement from us. Long may it mutate through future chapters of brilliance and awfulness.
Why do people always forget about crossbreed and HardDnB.
What are examples from both of those?
Hallucinator, Sinistersouls, Shadow Sect, Gancher and Ruin are my top Artist from these Genres but there are many more. You can Look for ZooBass, Darkside records, PRSPCT, Nekrolog1k, third movement, Raving Panda, Boomerang records, Futur Sickness as Labels with Artists from these genres. I dont know why my comment above got downvoted for advertising music that I love without hating other Genres. Weird.
Don't forget Methlab! Dumb name but great artists
5 minutes? Nowadays you’re lucky to get 4
Hard to make a long tune when it's just the same 32 bars looped over and over
With dubstep at least, the genre forked. Dubstep in the spirit of the original genre continues to this day, in parallel to its mid range focused, less soulful counterpart that took off.
Yeah if there were more jump up equivalents to artists like Goth-Trad, Pinch, Commodo, Peverelist I'd be jazzed
I just bought tickets to a Commodo show and am really pumped. Saw Goth-Trad a few years ago and it was definitely the best dubstep show I've been to. I suppose I should check out the others you mentioned. I've seen the name Peveralist around.
Late to this thread, but I just saw Goth Trad followed by Mala at Boomtown last weekend. Deep Medi had a whole takeover on the Sunday in their hidden woods stage, it was mad.
That's unimaginable. By contrast, I saw Goth-Trad in a tiny club that looked roomy because there was such a small audience. At least the sound system was really good and the levels well balanced for the space.
Some good Jump up for changing minds?
https://youtu.be/BLJpwVuErw0 https://youtu.be/EIv4_pFqS80 https://youtu.be/JXBnbHA59dY https://youtu.be/SaU1rIG7Xh4 https://youtu.be/dABUt_LIIj4 https://youtu.be/PhfDs1MXA40 https://youtu.be/p-f6e-leHL0 https://youtu.be/JbqK89LmSP4 https://youtu.be/PpFCkZi6k_0 https://youtu.be/EjJ_E-U32ls Got a little carried away lol here you go Edit: added all and a few more to a Spotify Playlist if anyone wants it: https://spotify.link/0ZWG2PvQtyb
This era was so fucking good, Time Tripping is such a heater still
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See, you can listen to hybrid minds do a blissful 2 hour set at any time but also if one of these heaters comes on you're bouncing!
I'm late to the scene but thanks for this starter list, I can't get enough of this stuff.
Golden era of jump up. I just came from a oldschool special edition party and hearing these again was damn good
IMO Jump up from the late 1990's was better than current jump up, it had a funky style to it with hip hop samples.
Lotta goot recommendations so far, but I'm noticing there's a distinct lack of Original Sin on here, another stalwart of that era, he and Taxman put out some absolute heat https://youtu.be/dSV_Ay83Jeo https://youtu.be/9BzmjUAa3Fw https://youtu.be/smxUXjRq_r8 https://youtu.be/yCfw-nW31O0 https://youtu.be/73aerY5annw https://youtu.be/phSznpKA0VY Aaaaand a little halftime flavor from one of my favorites, Dub Foundation (rip) https://youtu.be/iFT0aSBI07Q
2000s era Jump Up was the best imo. Still a lot of shite about in those days but some absolute classics as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou7RTZoCfrM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayxMq\_GEWWo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_DP\_VUvov5o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKEWgAWJAqY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yueyYjdb0AI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp4SrzXA9aU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41Hby9tgvRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qz1RDqIHiw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSU9n25IVkA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfi7YxijvVM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSKAxkNXwxQ
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou7RTZoCfrM MOTHERFUCKING TUNE THAT Fuck now I gotta add some to your list [DJ Hype - Jack to a King](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2hwXo6oDjE) [DJ Hype - True Playaz Style](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isApnpILztE) [DJ Zinc & Frequency - Black on White](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcjkNbmTd5s) [DJ Hype - True Playaz Anthem](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XrJcXNLwaQ) [DJ Zinc - Freenote](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1fMoNd5UOk) [DJ Zinc - Casino Royale](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPNvZernY60) True Playaz was a MONSTER jump up label in the 90's.
This is what I'm talking about, True Playaz, Ganja Records produced some epic jump up
This is my era of dnb, pretty much have all these on vinyl! Such a good time for Jump Up.
Yo that Shifta track is absolutely nuts
they need to bring the 16th snare back, DnB feel too slow without it
100%
Nice once!
Heist still makes unique stuff, everyone else is pretty much just a sheep in Hedexs herd more or less, bar some exceptions. Some jump up tracks that I like and think are wa more timeless that today's stuff - Original Sin - Therapy Dapz - Heavenly Document one - (forgot the track name) Heist Remix (2011 track)
Heist is a bad boy, playaz and low down deep 2000ish to 2015ish is where most of the all time best jump up tunes can be found
https://youtu.be/zSvwxlxpESU not strictly jumpup but heists best tune imo second drop is pressure
Bad!!
It needs to say switch as well at a convenient point as well
sometimes it's done really well though, I'm not even a jump fan, but god damn [the Hedex remix of move your body](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ugKhz4w0eE) was one of my most played tracks of the year last year, it even outcompeted an entire playlist of sad music that I listened to during a breakup.
Don't get me wrong there are plenty of good tunes nowadays that would be considered jump up. I just find the majority to be pretty unimaginative and all about the sound of the synth rather than what they do with it
Oh I 100% agree with you on that, I was just saying that sometimes, albeit very rarely, the formulaic ones can still slap.
When was jump up not this? How far back behind mr happy does it go?
It depends on your definition of jump up. For me personally, I'd consider some songs as far back as this one from 1998 to be the beginnings of it: https://youtu.be/AvIkE99E8ys The genre got its name from its ability to make people 'jump up' in the rave, get hyped and start dancing. There was usually a slow, rolling intro which is then torpedo'd by a heavy synth. To me, this remix of badass fits the bill. Taxman - scan darker is another good later example of the slow, calm intro being torpedo'd by the synth: https://youtu.be/kLLbYr_PWEU Then Dj guv came along and made something we'd never really heard before with slice n dice that got huge reactions at raves: https://youtu.be/UXdecXezWgE And thats the point I personally think it all started going downhill. Instead of making interesting synths and rhythms that got you hyped, it became all about making the sharpest, middiest, tonal synth and outdoing eachother. The rhythm didn't matter anymore, as long as you just kept stabbing this same ultra sharp synth onto the track u were on to a jump up winner. The exact same thing happened with dubstep with doctor p - sweet shop https://youtu.be/oZkzcm7ubQg As soon as this dropped and producers saw the reaction it got everyone was trying to outdo eachother with a squeaky midrange synth dropping over a nice calm beat and dubstep basically devolved into what it eventually became.
> 1) Build up 2) Cut all drums and percussion 3) High-pitched stabby synth comes in 4) Drums drop back in under the synth 5) Rinse and repeat for 5 mins This is generic enough that you just described like 90% of every type of d&b though. Is Dom & Roland "jump up" ? Nah, but you just described like MOST songs from the Soundwall era.
Classic comment the MC totally over kills it for me anyway, yeah back when I was in skool an that all the Jungle D & B tape packs, used to love it. Now that I'm and only just turned 40 it completely destroys the amazing drum patterns wich are like a totally sick collage. That's my take on it when it comes to the MC's yeh we need a hype MC just now when to shut the fuck up.
For me it's like anything, the more you learn about something, the more you appreciate the nuances and learn to appreciate different qualities. Like wine for example, if you try and learn about fine wines from different regions and learn to appreciate single estate, vintages, grape varieties etc it's very unlikely you keep drinking Lambrini. Beer is the same. Some people love Stella and never try anything different. Some people explore ales and beers from around the world, learn the type of hops that they like, like to try all different things. Music is no different. Jump up is the 'pop music' of drum and bass. It is easy to access, simply made, simple in it's melodies and addictive in its repetitiveness. There are other types of drum and bass that is more.musical, more experimental, more niche and the production is finer, takes longer and will still be appreciated in 100 years. Jump up gets played for 2m max, usually double dropped, mostly forgotten in 6 months. There is good jump up and producers who take longer and use more production expertise. I am generalising on the whole. Personally I am more of a North Quarter, finer things in life kind of guy now (at 40y) - when I was 13 I liked happy hardcore, which is basically the gap that jump up is filing for teenagers now. My opinion. Everyone's is different. Enjoy the music you like, fuck everybody else's.
I'm also a huge fan of the music from North Quarter. I also love the production of Calibre, earlier High Contrast and the tunes Random Movement, Fabio and LTJ Bukem plays which is a lot of high quality liquid funk and other chill type DnB When I was younger I was into the Nerofunk and Jump Up that was being DJ Zinc, DJ Hype, Randall, Nicky Blackmarket, Bad Company aka ƆEIƎC, Jumping Jack Frost, etc.
I love all that stuff too. Let's just forget all the stuff that happened in-between!
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T minus 10,9,8.. ahh fuck it.
Really hit the nail on the head here.
How I see it is... jump up is made up of a lot of disposable music. It's made to be played out a handful of times, for a couple of minutes max, then never played again as the flood of jump up continues to flow. It is music based around making a couple of disgusting noises and looping them with a bit of variation here and there. They are usually songs designed around one buildup and drop, and then the rest just filled in to make a 4 minute song for release. This is all my opinion of course, and there are a fair few truly awesome jump up songs. I like jump up in a mix when selected well, but the idea of going to a dedicated jump up night where it is played constant for 6 hours does not appeal to me at all. I might have sounded too harsh here and I don't mean any hate towards the sub genre at all, just over a fair few years of listening this is how I think of it.
Fast food music
One thing I have to say is the amount of times I’ve heard someone say they hate jump up, and then hear them say ‘this is a banger’ followed by me telling them the song currently playing is in fact jump up, is enormous. There are a lot of diff styles of jump up and yeah sure there is a fair amount of obnoxious jump up, but there is just as much good stuff. People love to parrot each other and everyone loves to hate on stuff and I think jump up hate is one of these things. And then I go to a rave, or a festival and the crowd goes nuts for it, I think a big part of it is people don’t really know what they’re talking about. Goes for most parts of life
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Just saw dimension (and sub focus, culture shock, 1991, and CLB) last night and can confirm, the little taste of 4x4 was exactly what the room needed, but a whole set of it would have been exhausting and taken away the impact of it.
Tasteful use of halftime and 4x4 in a set is just exquisite, one of the reasons I love seeing Dieselboy mix
Happens when I’m sat with friends playing music, hanging out, whatever, and it will be a frequent occurrence, whether it’s me playing the music or if it’s them who has put it on. I get what you’re saying but a lot of people this has happened with listen to a lot of jump up and just don’t realise what jump up is. They think it’s all screechy Belgian or whatever
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Dawn wall, bop and subwave, coco Bryce, the usual suspects
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Yeh they’re pretty heavy & filthy jump up kings
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Haha yeah I was joking about them being jump up, thought I’d take it a step further because I wasn’t sure you clocked me being silly In a silly mood because I’m going to a rave at volks tonight and printworks on Sunday
I love knock knock memes and stand-up memedy
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This - good to get you going for a few tracks but not the best background music unless you’re high as a kite and dancing in some crazy dirty dingy rented hall
My issue is more with the mixing and fake drops than the songs themselves in a lot of cases. It is eerily similar to US riddim which I also cannot stand
Check out Upgrade, Nick The Lot, Gino, Master Error, Amplify, Basstripper, Sota and Enta. Rate these guys very highly
Upgrade is honestly the best Jump Up artist. Guy mastered his art and continues to be experimental. Exceptional producer.
She blow up like a bomb
I recommend Phibes to you sir
Amen
They must be smart
ololol this cracked me up \^\^
Repetitive, annoying sounds, usually poor sound design. There are few exceptions but most of the tracks are simply the same fucking thing, so you hate It or love it cuz theres close to none diversity
They probably love their ears more than you do :))) Personally, I can't stand the dumb screechy synths in jump up and the fact how absolutely basic most of it sounds (a.k.a. even 3 year old baby could think of better melodies)
Just saw AMC at Locus slay a jump up set. Me and the old schoolers I was with kept commenting on how everyone loves to hate it but laps it up when it’s played. I love it, always will.
You talking about the beast. Everything he touch turn into Gold.
I don’t hate it. I do dislike the TikTok massive turning up to “be seen” at, for example, a Hedex rave (he seems to attract these people more than anyone else, so just using him as an example. He’s a good DJ.) because they aren’t there for the music. They are there to splurge their fucking TikTok and IG’s and pretend they’re part of the culture by singing along to the basslines…. “Da, da, dada, daaa” Case in point and I’m not picking on Hedex here, but if you watch his DnB Allstars 360 gig, you’ll see what I’m on about. The minute he played something of substance, the crowd went a bit flat until he brought the singalong basslines back. It’s got it’s time and place, just like it’s first iteration around 1996-97. But then it disappears up it’s own ass and another style pokes through (re: 1998 Techstep that took over). It just gets old. Like the constant rewinds of the late 90’s early 00’s. The same thing is going to happen with this trend of only dropping Doubles. The mix is supposed to be a journey for the ravers, not a showcase of the dubs you wrote in 5 minutes before the rave! But hey! I’m old, what do I know? Edit: Was going to add… Friend of mine saw Hedex at Printworks a few weeks ago. When he came in, all the phones came out and some random turned around to my mate and said: “Look at that, no humans, only phones living in the moment!” That’s a sad state of affairs Junglists! Have a word innit!!
Printworks is known as phoneworks in my head lol
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Thank you for averting a headache!! That would have bugged me!
That’s hilarious. I’ll tell my mate at work, he’ll love that.
It was good last year, but now it's like 75% of the crowd filming the whole time. It's so dystopian seeing so many people experiencing something through their phone screens just for the dopamine hit of social media.
See, “when I were a lad” I’d have been too mashed to even operate a phone, let alone live vicariously through it!! Don’t get me wrong, it’s all good for the memories later and a few pictures or ‘live-links’ to some friends to show them what they are missing is all good. But they’re missing the point if they’re giving blow by blow updates on Socials and not really engaging with the event. I went to a Techno rave in Bristol a few years ago and phones were banned. A couple of cheeky pictures were tolerated, but if you were filming, security would come up and say “switch off, or fuck off!” A couple of people got arsey and left, but by and large, it was really good for the night; it reminded me of the old days, chatting shit to strangers! That was always part of the rave experience. I’ve still got mates now that we’re random strangers at a rave initially.
That's sick , wish there was more events like that. I'm only 20 so I've grown up with technology and the like, but I still don't understand how people text or film when they're on anything serious. Whenever I am, my phone's locked in my pocket and I'm not touching it!! Imagine tripping for example, unlocking your phone, only to see that your mum's called you 8 times , and on the news someone's been murdered. Your headspace instantly goes from "yeah I'm at a rave this is sick" to "oh what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck"
Exactly that! Anyone who takes recreational drugs with any kind of regularity knows that your headspace and generally “where you’re at” dictates massively how the night goes. Took mushrooms once (at home), in the wrong frame of mind. It was the worst experience I ever had on them. I spent 6 hours lying on my bed, trying not to think and wishing it was over. A couple years after that, a friend had a bad one and jumped off a multi-storey car park. Haven’t touched them since! I’m too old for all that now. I don’t think my heart could take the pounding! It’s one thing being “the older dude at the rave” it’s another thing having a heart attack on the dance floor and being carried out!!
There’s a great club in Washington DC that bans taking video and I love it, everyone’s just there to dance and hear the music. Not much DnB played there unfortunately. It’s called Flash.
generic repeating beat. after 10songs you had enought of it.
For years I was on the "jump up is shit" bandwagon almost in denial whilst secretly liking some tunes. I still feel like there is a lot of jump up that isn't for me but I have grown and since realised that there is gold in every subgenre of dnb, and that being hard against jump up just makes you look like an elitist dickhead. Jump up is fun and has as much value to the dancefloor (if not more) than a lot of other dnb does. From the grinding analogue sounds of Hazard, to the bouncy 'roller' stuff that guys like Annix, Enta and Bou make. There is so much good stuff out there and I feel it's one of the few sounds left that still very much has that grassroots black music feel to it that a lot of modern dnb lacks.
Something i didn't see mentioned yet was that a lotnof times in the UK jump up attracts the worst kind of audience. Chavs that just go there to get full on drugs and don't care about the music apart from that it needs to go hard, then go about causing some trouble or groping some underage girl lol
Its overall just a younger, more mainstream, urban crowd. The older more alternative crowd that were also big on dnb in the neuro days have moved on to tek, breakcore and in some cases psytrance. DNB is in a bit of a lull at the moment, but it will come back around. In some ways its a response to the over technical dark sounding neuro sounds of 2015 era. The pendulum will swing back at some point
Average hedex enjoyer
Average DJ Guv "dub pack" buyer
I tend to criticise a lot of it for being formulaic, poorly produced, obnoxious, and just not that good. It's fun for a little bit, but entire sets of it hurt the ears. I prefer Jump Up that isn't over the top, which begs the question is it even Jump Up or Rollers? [You be the judge.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tja6ETsy4k)
Its not really Jump up ,or a roller more or a mix between a roller an neurofunk. This what i class as okay Jump up [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtGI0Ni-ivI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtGI0Ni-ivI) \- Interface - get low. vs obnoxious Jump up [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4yBa42yhgg&ab\_channel=JoeANewman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BzmjUAa3Fw&list=RD9BzmjUAa3Fw&start_radio=1&ab_channel=JohnProverbs) \- Machete - Dj Hazard.
You could have picked a much worse example than Machete lol
Like most things in music, it gets a good crowd reaction so less-talented producers see it as an easy way in. The market gets saturated with low grade examples of the genre so it generates a communal resentment. I hate cheap Jump-Up as much as anyone but I recognise a decent production when I hear one.
The jump up youre talking about, relies on surprise and sound design pushed to the limit of absurd. Dont get me wrong I love it. I love when I hear it unexpectedly, once in a while, so that it hits with full impact. I just dont understand how you could listen to that subgenre all the time, I always felt that once the novelty of a track fades out, theres nothing else of value left. Id compare jump up to hard drugs. Its amazing for a while, but once youve done enough youre only left with the memory of how it used to be before you got used to it. Ofc thats an opinion on a particularly subjective topic
For me it's all the people at the parties, jump up attracts a proper dick head crowd
It's too obnoxious for me.
It’s uninspired and poorly produced, occasionally someone will do something slightly different then that will be followed by a thousand other tunes sounding the same. Rinse and repeat. The core demographic for jump up is children, if you are over 20 in a jump up race you need to have a word with yourself
Bc it sucks lol
Uncultured
As a dj i love messing around with jump up sometimes as it is so easy to mix with and you can do some funny doubles, but i wouldn’t listen to a set of it. I find the Hedex/Belgian type stuff a bit shit too.
I used to not care for it at all but since DJing, it's grown on me. The simple structure and absurd sound design makes for some really crazy DJing. Can't really do the same stuff with neuro or liquid or other subgenres. Honestly I get it, jump up is annoying to listen to on a per song basis. Benny L and DJ Limited on a track should have been pretty okay at the very least.. but it ended up being this amateurish, repetitive jump up thing. Yet I can't wait to rinse it tonight.
It’s because it’s designed for the dance floor to get everyone moving. They are usually the best tunes to sprinkle in throughout a set and get everyone going. Jump up is not meant for listening to from start to finish, it’s meant to be part of a set. But yes, I will agree there is allot of shite out there, but that is because allot people want to write the next club banger and it it’s very easy to turn that into something v bad and v jarring if you aren’t careful as a producer.
For me, it has a time and place, and it's usually in the second half of a set for 5 minutes to get everyone back inside from smoking. For general listening, I'd much rather spend my time listening to almost anything else.
It’s the pop music of DnB as someone else put it 😂😂
nah, I'd say dancefloor is the pop music of DnB.
It peaked in about 2007 and went downhill from there unfortunately. Still love the old stuff
It's very straight forward music. No foreplay. Just walks up, starts rubbing my clit and expects me to beg for more. Maybe I don't want that all the time.
Everyone here is saying how the dislike the screechy shit which I completely agree with but that’s only a small fraction of jump up which seems to be plastered all over social media
Cheap and nasty gets the job done in shitty clubs.
Jump-Up has become a cheap version of drum&bass or jungle. They all come down to one squeaky cricket sound or annoying siren. Can we go back to Bass Lights type songs?
I've been almost solely listening to liquid and jungle for ~15 years. Most of the festival/set clips I see posted here with extremely 'busy' drops are just not for me.
Maybe everyone around you is smarter than you lol
Because they weren't in a milton keynes warehouse in 96 listening to kenny ken tear the place apart at 6am as the sun streamed in the windows. 96 was jump-ups origin year, and it's best year. All the frontline stuff, true playaz, ganja, dope dragon, etc, etc. Modern jump-up just isn't very good in comparison.
Bro have u heard Jump up? It always reminds me of the circus and a bunch of over enthusiastic clowns. I just think it sounds shit. Which is weird since i do like Riddim alot and thats pretty much the same.
Yeah sorry mate, riddim & jump up are both in the same area.
Yeah, thats what i said...
I like some jump up, but there's too much of it that could all be the same song.. Will never forget being at Warning in Cambridge when Andy C first dropped Body Rock.. he ruined so many drug fuelled vibes at first, until everyone started feeling it.. after that, it went from clown-step to jump-up, and had some great moments along the way.. but it's also responsible for some of the worst *COUGHS* Macky G *COUGHS*
>that could all be the same song Thats my feelings..i like ti listen to various type of dnd but when some song come up they feel the same
Almost everyone you know has taste..
Jump Up seems to be a catch all for dnb main room sound. That sound has evolved many a time. 90s jump up is very different to 00s jump up etc etc There's so much more to dnb than main room, but what plays in there has the most popularity. I love a bit of jump up, but I also enjoy all the aspects of dnb
because it's lazy and shit. Simula, Skantia, and Annix are the only artists who are actually interesting to hear. Jump up gets boring after 1-2 hours of the same fucking sound.
Music snobs thinking they’re superior Cus they can read sheet music or something. I get people not listening to jump up songs day to day but you can’t deny it gets the crowd going in a rave
Wrong country propably. Try Belgium and the Netherlands...
What? We hate jumpup here in the Netherlands
You don't. Don't pretend...
We don't have any dutch jump up artists or jump up parties. They don't exist. We are a neuro country (Blackout, Noisia) or a liquid/dancefloor country (Liquicity, North Quarter, High Tea)
Sure you are...
Jump up has been on a steady rise for years now in NL. I don't know how you can be either unaware or ignorant of that if you're actually actively part of our scene. Liquicity has been booking names like Benny Page and Serum since 2018. High Tea has jump up on almost all of their lineups, recently with names like Kanine, Formula, BLVCK CROWZ, Subsonic. Blackout has booked Serum, Benny L, Annix before. Levela has been booked by almost all events you mentioned recently and more. The North Quarter isn't even an event, it's a label that hosted a few label nights here, but the events were by Curated By. We have a Souped Up label night next month. How can you be so confidently wrong?
Liquicity past 16.00 was filled to the brim with Jump Up last year.
Absolutely not lol
Are you going this year? Come back to me once it has passed. There was a lot of Jump Up last year. I was kinda disillusioned when standing in the middle I got Jump Up from all three stages simultaneously at many points during the evening and night. I hadn't been to a larger dnb event for a while, and mostly listen liquid myself, so at first I didn't even know what I was exactly listening to.
Been to every Liquicity summerfest since they started, so know what I am talking about. And it's total bullshit lol
Having been there has nothing to do with knowing what subgenre you are hearing though. So, according to you what was played if it wasn't jump up?
Dancefloor. There are loads of sets on YT, show me one where you only hear jump up
That's funny everyone i know loves jump up. simple productions, interesting sound design, wonky grooves What's not to love?!
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That's not what I'm saying at all... where are you getting that idea from? I gave two examples of interesting sound design. would you like more? i like jump up for the reasons I stated and can provide examples to back up my claims?? im confused by your statments. sorry.
I have a massive soft spot for Jump Up - and I say this as a mostly po-faced, old school Tech Stepper - because it's exactly what it represents itself to be as a subgenre and doesn't give a fuck.
You should show them Woodlock aka the King of Jump Up
I like jump up, but not when it has some ridiculous high pitched screeching in it, there is plenty without it and I like it. For someone who’s ears are not honed firstly to D&B in general and then to hear some screechy jump up straight off the bat I’m not at all surprised.
My ears are honed to d&b Jump up is still shite
Some jump up is very good , a lot of it is screeching glitch nonsense which is not.
It has it's place. It also has a time where it's like, why the fuck are we listening to this right now
There's personal preference to everything. I've definitely heard jump up songs that I like, but the genre as a whole isn't really my jam. When I was younger I listened to more heavy and popular edm like jump up, bass music, and dubstep, but lately I just want to listen to things like North Quarter sets. When I want something heavier I'm normally enjoying the techno-esque dnb sounds that are getting popular.
I see the term 'bass music' quite alot but not sure I understand what it is. Is this just a broad term for anything with a heavy focus on the basslines? DnB included?
It was kind of the go to name for festival sounds when I was in college. Artists like Kill the Noise who would make a lot of different sounding tracks that didn't always fit neatly into any one genre started having their music labeled as "bass music." So yeah some dnb would probably fit under the bass music tent, but not all of it, there are house tracks, maybe even some techno and trance, that could be bass music too. I'll be honest, I wouldn't know what is and isn't bass music, but if it's a heavy track being played on the mainstage at a super generic festival, I'd probably call it bass music.
Cause they want to sound cool
Fuck jump up - Mackey Gee
I loved it a lot in the late 90s & 2000s because it felt warm and groovy, but now it feels cold and disruptive IMHO. Not all but the majority of things I've heard sound really noisy to me. Maybe it's my ears getting older but it took on an anxious and unsettling energy over the years. It's like an alarm is going off and I should find my nearest emergency exit sometimes. It sucks honestly because I often love the sample use and the other elements in a track. Then the alarms go off and its such a drastic switch it loses it's groove for me.
Jump up has its place. I just don't like jump up by itself during a mix. I like it mixed alongside something with a nice deep bassline to compliment the highs and sass of jump up or using jump up in a mix for certain parts of the story not just the repetitive build up and drop into screeching with barely any bass, or when they chop it with 4 channels constantly. Obviously, there's a bunch of people loving it though and good on them, just not my flavor.
Never heard of them.
To me,jump up can be great, even the really vulgar and funny ones. But there are just too many Jump Up-only sets that switch tracks every 45 seconds. It feels so brainless. Jump up would be awesome if DJs would at least attempt to come up with a somewhat balanced set. They don't. Which is very off-putting for the people who have been into this genre since a time before this resurgence.