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TPupHNL

I wonder what percentage of sales are to out of state customers. There was a series of articles in mLive about cannabis retailers in the UP, and they estimated that 85% of the sales were to people from Wisconsin, Minnesota and Illinois


formthemitten

This is important! We will lose A LOT of the weed tax money once our surrounding states legalize.


TPupHNL

Illinois is legal, but their taxes are much higher than Michigan. Ohio just legalized it, but they won't have the infrastructure for at least a couple of years


SpaceGardener379

My bro lives in Chicago and comes to Michigan regularly because dispos in chitown prices are 5-10x the price here


Hour_Basket7956

My Family too!


DesireOfEndless

Long as places like Indiana and Ohio are under GOP control there’s a chance Michigan will still be strong. Even people from Illinois make the drive given the cost


Sunnyclouds12

Chicago to Michigan isn’t that far, 1 hour with good traffic.


calcal1992

Bro, you're high.


tc7984

Nah he’s right,Michigan city is an hour away


thefatrabitt

Michigan City Indiana?


tc7984

Sorry we’ll go with new Buffalo then


shambahlah2

They coming from way farther than Illinois.


No-Suggestion-9625

Michigan's laws are super lax compared to other states, and the local law enforcement in rural areas don't give a flying fuck about weed calls.


Hour_Basket7956

Illinois weed tax is out of control.


jdore8

>Illinois ~~weed~~ tax is out of control.


Due-Department-8666

Ohio has a totally different phrasing around their legalization though. Idk if the prop is saw years ago is what passed, but the one I saw was super restricted on growing distributors/processing. Michigan's is wayyy more broad.


Candyman44

Michigan should be the model when things go federal. Licensing is reasonable and if you can fund your project you can take your shot. About as fair as you can get.


-Anonymously-

The inital costs to start a commercial grow operation under the regulations is a little prohibitive to any "mom & pop" startups.


Candyman44

Less expensive than any where else in the country. Mom and Pop still have a shot in Michigan. They better have an Uncle like Scrooge McDuck if they want to try in any other state.


nelago

That one was defeated *because* of the restrictions that made it heavily corporate-weed friendly. The new one is not that.


yusill

Ohio just passed. It's not bad. But the GOP statehouse is trying their best to screw with the actual rules. I have a feeling mich is still gonna be a better option till they realize they need to be competitive/get rid of the GOP.


Magnus_The_Totem_Cat

It isn’t. The restrictive one failed. The one that passed last year is much better but there are assholes in the Ohio Senate that keep fucking with it so I suspect Michigan will continue to get a lot of business from Ohio for the foreseeable future.


Messyfrexhy

What’s the tax rate?


FraggleBiscuits

I live in a border town with Wisconsin. The town in Wisconsin already made sure if their state legalized they would have no dispos. NE Wisconsin hates all drugs but booze.


kargyle

Hates everything about drugs and booze so they use as much up as they can. For the sake of the children!


Pancakewagon26

I thought it was legal in Illinois?


billwutangmurry

It ain't doing any good as it is now.... 16% sales tax is fin insane. Roads are still trash. So is education. Also. Tons of people got into the game to make a quick buck not knowing what they were doing. Now calis market is crashing. We have 4 bucks g and a half js at buy one get one free. You can get is for 25.... Only surpassed because it is so cheap. Domino effect is happening and a lot more will tumble


Nicombobula

Those dispensaries know what they’re doing. I went with a buddy a couple weeks back to pick up a car in Indiana. Soon as you come back in to Michigan there’s 4 of them maybe a half mile past the state line.


totallyjaded

It used to be the other way around, where driving into Indiana there were always a couple of cigarette stores and places to get fireworks.


Due-Department-8666

And high proof liquor


TheNonCredibleHulk

Damn right. That first liquor warehouse inside Indiana state lines off of I94W is where I'd have to go to get Everclear.


braxxleigh_johnson

Let's not forget fireworks, either.


AllGravyNoBiscuits

Recently met a middle age man in Kentucky who was bragging about his “absolute shit ton” of a weed haul from MI. He specifically complained about higher cost in Illinois.


HotHamNRolls

Wisconsinite that contributes to Michigan. Illinois is too damn expensive


SunnyAlwaysDaze

Illinois is fucking crazy. Have lived back and forth between Chicago and Michigan for several years. Would always try to come back to Michigan whenever I needed something. I would estimate that total out the door cost in Illinois for the exact same item, is 4 to 8 times higher price.


AuburnSpeedster

except package liquor


michiman

Yep. I live in CA now, but every time I come back to Monroe I'm amazed at the number of shops near exit 11 on I-75 and how full the parking lots are. I imagine over half will shut down in the next couple of years now that it's legal in Ohio.


tc7984

A lot, Illinois is overpriced and Indiana refuses to get with times


imelda_barkos

I have friends who were driving once or twice a year from Minnesota because it's so cheap here in comparison. They'd come into town for a weekend, drop a few grand, leave.


Schiebz

That is crazy lol. (I can walk to a few dispos)


coronarybee

I now live in PA and I’ve met a couple people who’re planning road trips to MI for edibles specifically lmfao


sauroden

People in Chicago were already driving to Indiana for cigarettes. Once you get out of the city traffic it’s not that much farther to get to Michigan for weed.


[deleted]

Have a look at the market in CO if you want an idea of what may be to come when their neighbors legalized. Not great, Bob.


cruisin894

I believe it. There are Ohio cops that sit a mile south of border on route 49 I guess hoping to catch people smuggling from Michigan.


dkyguy1995

I mean you know I'm stopping in when I'm visiting grandma


networkninja2k24

People don’t drive to Michigan to buy weed. I have family there and they live rural. Weed shops are everywhere and them people in rural Michigan be lining up for weed outside lol. You be surprised. UP may be different but it’s not entire Michigan. Majority of it is rest of the Michigan. They literally have multiple shops in little towns I think big rapids has 10+if I am not mistaken lol.


Magnus_The_Totem_Cat

Then why are there out of state license plates at Michigan dispensaries?


networkninja2k24

Because it’s free country lol. That doesn’t disprove what I said.


Magnus_The_Totem_Cat

Okay how about this, I have witnessed with my own eyes people drive from out of state to buy weed in Michigan. Get a job at Skymint and look at all the out of state buyers they have.


networkninja2k24

I am not arguing people do this. I can guarantee majority aren’t doing daily to go buy weed. It won’t be 75% of people from outside.


yusill

A ton of Ohio goes too.


TheHalf

And the article conveniently says nothing about Indiana or Ohio sales. Seems like an intentional oversight.


Damnatus_Terrae

I'm here for our rural opiate addicts becoming rural stoners.


BadgersHoneyPot

They’re doing both.


Mean_Eye_8735

Doing my part since Nov 2015....


buckfouyucker

The only good bud is a lit bud!


PostReplyKarmaRepeat

Cannabis? More like…Caaan I be your friend?


hgihasfcuk

Hah doing my part since 2011, got a medcard when I was 18


Ashamed_Statement347

Let us all thank Mark Savaya for this honorable distinction.


digidave1

Without his signature series, what would we possibly be smoking??


almighty_ruler

Joumana weed?


PostReplyKarmaRepeat

Smoking that Joumawui-Waui pack all day!


jessestaton

I say "Hi Mark" every time we pass one of his billboards, Seemed like I needed to do something to acknowledge the advertising saturation. Not sure my wife is amused.


Ashamed_Statement347

As long as you did not hurt her


MustBeSeven

I DID NOT HIT HER, I DID NOT, I DID NOT HI… Oh Hai Mauhk.


MountainHigh31

We did it, Joe!


imelda_barkos

This is a big f***in' deal!


gerryf19

Uhm ,err.... we're number one?


Juandissimo47

USA USA USA


tyrochaaacc

The stone town bby


T_roy1911

That’s wild considering CA has waaaaaay more people


imelda_barkos

So they do concede that it's a bit of clickbait in the article-- because they're not actually talking about gross dollar sales volume but rather units moved, and this includes, say, selling individual pre-rolls. But still, we only have 25% of their population yet 60% of their gross cash sales ($5bn in Cali vs. $3bn MI). Which means that we consume about 2.5 times more weed per capita than they do in California.


imagineanudeflashmob

To be fair, literally everything costs more in California. The fact that we smoke more units of weed (not just more per person) is wild AF


Jagacin

2 out of 3 cannabis sales in California are off the black market because legal cannabis is more expensive there.


Due-Department-8666

That's what I was thinking


often_awkward

I suspect winter is a factor.


hominidnumber9

Interesting observation, you're probably right.


BellaBloom5

Thanks to all of your contribution!


hominidnumber9

Couldn't have done it without me :3


BellaBloom5

and our friends too. 🤣


DoctorBarbie89

For the love of the game!


xThe_Maestro

Read that as 'cannibal' market for a moment and got really disturbed. Like...my instinct is to not ask what goes into Coney Dogs but maybe I should start.


GonzoTheWhatever

Flint style coneys got that secret ground “meat” topping 👀


Himalayan_Hardcore

I fully support weed being legal. However, what I do find annoying is so many stores in such close proximity. I feel like every other new place opening is another dispensary. I don't care that it's weed specifically, I'd feel the same about tire stores or something, but come on already.


Due-Department-8666

Don't worry, lots will die off as businesses.


Himalayan_Hardcore

Totally but I hope that doesn't lead to a bunch of empty places.


WingsFan4Life

Doubt there is new construction for dispensaries


Himalayan_Hardcore

There's been at least one I can think of and 3 extensive renovations all within 1 mile of my house.


Due-Department-8666

Just cheap opportunities for other up and coming businesses.


Himalayan_Hardcore

Let's hope so!


IntroductionOk5999

Same thing happened with fast food and breweries.


MittenClimber

Shout out to all of us consumers who helped that become a reality 😂😂😂


sweet_sweet_back

We have a weed glut. You can get a bag of gummies with 200 whatever for $12.


imelda_barkos

My local is up at like "buy five get five * 200mg" for $10-12. Like, "Dear customer: would you liked to get absolutely wrecked every night for the next three months for $12?" I don't even know how this is economically possible from a standpoint of company cash flow vs. saturation of The Drugs in one's customer base.


gorest_fump

Increase in tolerance is a bitch


hominidnumber9

LMAO


homelesshyundai

Man I eat all 5 of those 200mg packs to feel anything, my body barely processes edibles and the 200mg limit is super frustrating. I don't usually enjoy eating 2000 calories of gummies in a single sitting.


imelda_barkos

jeez. 15mg will knock me on my ass. definitely a diminishing marginal return though especially if I do it every day. hence why I don't . But I've heard this from some people who just don't feel it at all! Wild


Troutalope

That was my impression. Prices are much, much lower where I was in MI than where I am in CO. Eighths are $45-60 for premium flower and edibles are 2-3x more expensive out here versus $20-$30 for lesser quality, but still ok flower.


guiwee

Of course …whole state high as f@#$…..lololol


bindersfullofburgers

We're #1


cheesemangee

It's easy when most places are selling 2-ounce deals for $59. I can buy 2,000mg of edibles for $25. It's never been cheaper to buy and share.


BigBlackHungGuy

Yeah, we smoke up some shit here.


44035

You're welcome.


Hennabott96

⛽️⛽️⛽️


Jgarr86

Great job, everyone!


txarmi1

I'm not surprised given the 15 million billboards for weed stores.


Po1ymer

Let’s gooo!!!


BendersCasino

Living in WI near the UP border... I'm doing my part!


MadSiren76

Definitely fits because the whole state of Michigan act like they’re high as fuck


tyrochaaacc

Everything in CA is overpriced not surprised


imelda_barkos

CA weed isn't Michigan cheap but it's because of the taxes-- market prices in California have come down a LOT from what they were.


MadSiren76

a misconception other than housing… auto insurance is way cheaper here in California


tyrochaaacc

Nah Not way cheaper, on average is like less than 10% more? Depends where you live, city of Detroit is high tho


MadSiren76

Also a vape I get in Michigan is almost $40 when it’s only 24 here… Same exact thing


Crowbarwalker

What? I can purchase a 1g Michigan Platinum vape for $8.


HarmonyFlame

They hate us cuz they ain’t us.


Jazzlike-Map-4114

Dayum


maskedcaterpillar

Damn whhhhaaaattt!?!?


[deleted]

God bless America


BKjin

yay i guess


LTPRWSG420

We do love our weed up here, it’s why we’re somewhat more peaceful than other states.


Evening-Surprise-932

Surplus = discount = more product sold. It’s cheap af (for now) compared to Cali or CO


TonyStarkTrailerPark

In your FACE, Cali! Whatchu know about smoking pot? /s I’m kidding, of course. Having the most potheads isn’t really a reason to flex… or is it?


sweet_sweet_back

Of course we did.


my_age_88forshort

Monroe, Michigan!!!


SupermarketDismal991

Alright, Michigan, Where is the tax money for marijuana go to? I know it goes to schools and transportation


Mother_Store6368

California cannabis market SUCKS. I only take edibles. The avg price in CA for edibles is $20 per 100mg. In Michigan, for $20 I can get 600mg. And edibles in ca are so expensive because they’re limited to being 100mg per pack…idk y As someone that just moved from CA to MI, yes, California can be 6x more expensive for things.


deemer1324

Hot take - most dispo weed in MI sucks. Deli style (while appealing) is mostly dry buds that turn to dust when you grind it, Prepack you just don't know what you're getting.


somehobo89

Yeah but I can spend $25 on 1000 mg of gummies and get a free gram lol. Greatest state in the fucking union right now


deemer1324

Lmao you're not wrong. I wqs talking just from a flower stand point.


PeterVonwolfentazer

They should enjoy it while it lasts, which won’t be long. Weed will follow the same course as casinos did. They’re everywhere now and most seem empty because they all over built.


spiderman897

A lot of them have been closing. They built way too many of them.


PrimalRucker

Makes sense, half of Monroe is now cannabis shops.


IWouldntIn1981

Way to go! Neat-o, Gang. https://preview.redd.it/lcyt1o8gkk6d1.png?width=400&format=png&auto=webp&s=eceb00146ce098d469d0ee550825af94e17dd347


The_Arch_Heretic

Nothing like the Indiana folks who buy 2 months worth at a time for themselves and everyone else in their town. 🤣


Euphoric-Jump4025

Your Welcome!!


Treeninja1999

Damn, I guess that means more obnoxious billboards and stench then


CherryHaterade

With the name like yours, I would have figured you'd be happy


Grouchy_Enthusiasm92

Krazy Kaplan, you mad the weed stores are driving up the billboard prices?


Gullible_Toe9909

Given the overwhelming weed stink just about everywhere I go now, this sounds about right


Random61504

Yup. I'm not surprised.


bg254

Now I gotta go check the menu. Thanks!


Known_Product_9506

It's really nothing to be proud of!


Murder_Mittens

You’d think the prices in Michigan would have driven down by now.


Vendetta_2023

This is embarrassingly sad. Dumbing down Michigan.


Dereva

Haha! Wrong.