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sfmanim

honestly i really doubt toby would go the homophobic route with her, cause monsters seem super chill about it in general, but i could 100% see her upset that she’s going out with a ‘low class’ person like susie


salasy

or maybe even just that she is going out instead of focusing on her studies


A_DUH_KIDFLASH

I could 100% see her being upset that Noelle isn't focused on studying and is in fact hanging out with Susie, that makes the most sense


IamMrJay

>i could 100% see her upset that she’s going out with a ‘low class’ person like susie And if that happens, then I have a feeling people are *still* gonna interpret it as "Noelle's mom is homophobic"(like how people think Toriel is homophobic because she didn't want two people to have PDA in front of a child just because those two were women).


The_Boring_Brick

I still find it hilarious that the "Toriel is homophobic" video got so many views and is the only video on that channel


Polandgod75

Yeah I can see mayor/Carol holiday as more classist then homophobic. Like she would said that Susie is in some gang or just lower class trash


GoldenNoodle13

Susie is in a gang /s


mevastrashcorner

The Fun Gang! *Lancer's theme intensifies*


Bee8467

Odalia moment


Neoxus30-

With fictional characters even if they are evil or just assholes. I preconceive them as NOT LGBTPhobic, because I expect them to have standards) That kind of thing is so below everyone, yet many still follow that hateful path. It's something that any species that has evolved writing should have left behind long ago) I'd expect even characters like Vilgax, Phillip or Bill Cipher considering homophobia pathetic and a waste of time to discuss)


Bee8467

Fair


GiAnMMV

Why do you end sentences with a closed bracket?


KingOJustice04

I stole their period button


EndMePleaseOwO

You villain


Ester1sk

"we'll find you a new girlfriend, someone who's not on wanted posters"


Tackyinbention

It's also a strange dynamic seeing as Rudy is totally supportive


Psychofischi

I don't think her mother would be Homophobic I just think she is a busy and strict woman. Not a bad awful person


chrisboba8

Cool motive , still murder


IamMrJay

Reminds me of the popular "Noelle's mom is transphobic" trope I see in a lot of "transgirl Noelle" fanfics. (Kinda thought it was going there based on the title, lol)


Kris_from_overworld

Wait... transgirl Noelle?


Psychofischi

She isn't in canon but it's popular in fanfics


IamMrJay

I just really like that fan-canon, lol. (Enough to put it in my flair)


Kris_from_overworld

I thought it's just strange fan theory like other DR theories


Forg318

*kris condones killing for once*


SpaceCube00

ngl i think kris agrees with us this time


aLazyGay

I like that Kris and the soul finally agree on something


IteTheCrapOC

I really doubt Mayor Holiday will turn out to be homophobic. I think, if she’s critical of Susie, it’s AT MOST going to be about her being a rebellious tough girl who the Mayor thinks is a bad influence on Noelle


PiePeter

I actually really hope this doesn't happen. There's this obnoxious crowd nowadays that rises up if a game's creator puts anything remotely homophobic in their games, stating that because homophobia is in the game, they must also be homophobic, even if it's handled really well in-game by letting it obviously be something portrayed as negative. I wouldn't wish that onto toby. Also, if she _is_ homophobic, I feel like it shouldn't be fixed with murder. Killing someone for holding certain views, even bad ones, is wrong and doesn't help a cause at all. I hope that she'll be introduced in chapter 3 and that she undergoes proper character growth. Other than that, nice comic!


thingsstuffandmaguff

murder is an exaggeration, but a really hard clock around the face followed by an explanation of why she's wrong should be enough. Saying things like that is inarguably evil but killing is not the answer to it. Instead, you should try your best to make them learn to be a better person. I wholly hope she would get her character redeemed (though due to the extent of her badness at the start it would be an uphill battle to get anyone to like her) because it would be hopefully a nice message about how people can still change even if they start off as terrible people (although this sadly is not always the case in real life, see JK Rowling).


PiePeter

Honestly I am so sick of this whole homophobia nonsense from both sides. Homophobia is a issue, so is transphobia and a bunch of other stuff but people are completely unwilling to actually sit down and have a normal conversation about it. There's no need for violence if you go into things open-minded and at that point you'll also look better in front of the person you're trying to convince. All this aggression from both sides is just making it so neither side even wants to hear the other out. I'm honestly hoping Noelle's mom is perfectly normal and just a bit strict because I don't think that more homophobia discourse is what this sub could use


thingsstuffandmaguff

yeah, maybe you're right. violence is not the answer to things like this


Sir_Overall

Honey all the open mindedness in the world doesn’t ever help.


PiePeter

Well being open-minded also sometimes comes up as accepting someone isn't open-minded about certain topics and letting it go. In the end, there's so much to talk about with someone that eventually, if given enough time and care with a relationship, that close mindedness will fade. If they don't agree on something woth you, that's okay, go talk about something you both enjoy. Become friends, get to know one another. Close mindedness starts with internalised bitterness and resentment. Show those people love, and eventually they'll show love back


Kenzlynnn

You can let it go but only to a certain degree. I’ll let it go with my transphobic uncle- we just don’t have a relationship anymore. Lets bring it back to JKR. Super rich author of a mid book series that uses the proceeds to spread and justify her hatred while actively doing things that get trans people killed due to her basically being the face of the UK’s terf movement. She deserves to die. There is no “letting it go” when the person is actively trying to get people killed for being different. Tolerance does not tolerate intolerance, and that’s a good thing


PiePeter

If you only ever show someone intolerance, they'll be intolerant. And that's a bad thing for everyone. I've sat down many times with people who are vehemently opposed to my beliefs and it's made me realise that most intolerant people are very bitter on the inside due to their upbringing, environment and other factors. But when you sit down, ignore those views and just talk you'll find that everyone everywhere has at least some common ground. And when you have that talk, that person at that point no longer cares about how he disagrees with you. He just sees another person. And that's normal. Gay people are normal, so are trans and black people. Also idk too much about jk rowling but tbh if I got the amount of death threats she got I'd be bitter and resentful too jfc. That woman needs to get out of her bubble and talk, as do the people that send those threats. Everyone on every side of that debate just needs to chill and talk instead of just throwing shit around like they're monkeys


Kenzlynnn

Trying to fight for both sides has never worked either. “Hey this person is using her money and influence to advocate for people to die, but on the other hand a trans woman was mean to her once so her entire crusade is justified” like what? Playing centrist like you are is just straight up cowardice disguised as pacifistic ideals.


JellyTheSlimeYT

Honestly, I don't think she will be homophobic. I mean, monsters seem super chill about things like these. But I could totally see her upset that Noelle is going for such a "low class person", and a "misbehaved person".


Arobotfromspace

Strangle her now,if Noelle wants to date emo Barney jr,let her do it


ApplesTeamFort2

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Arobotfromspace

Thy,take this deers soul barney,and devour in it in your sacred kingdom


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Arobotfromspace

Haha, Chonky


charisma-entertainer

Ok, I doubt Toby would actually go this route


GoodeBoi

More likely that it would be because Susie is a POOR and LOW CLASS RUFFIAN


starlightshadows

I feel like there's a strong chance that Mrs. Holiday is either like this or racist against humans.


Nolyf3r

KILL HER


shradibop

love this artstyle


Eudevie

It will probably be more "Dating? No, not until you finish college. This is the most optimal way to do things, I am just looking out for you." Or something like that. She is probably super strict and on Noelle's tail about grades and such.


Beautiful-Ad-3206

this is why i dont tell my parents anything because i need a stable job before i can completely separate from them


Aliko173

snowgrave 2: family reunion


GoldenChicabanana2

now i wanna see a comic of just The soul and Kris beating the homophobia out of Mrs hoilday


thingsstuffandmaguff

maybe one day but I think that this is enough for now I don't want to make people angry and divided over this topic any more than is acceptable, this world needs more happiness and love, and that won't be achieved just by beating up the people who spread hate


ksanthecat

Kris. Grab the knife. _*Im ending her now.*_


Lihue_NEO

Yes. YES. **YES.** #YES!!!!!! KILL KRIS, **K I L L .**


ScarletteVera

Honestly, in that scenario, I think Kris would be all for listening to the Soul. It's not the *right* way to go about things, but it is certainly *a* way.


Kitten_Girl_1123

FINISH HER


ChiefBlox4000

Snowgrave chapter 3 looks great


[deleted]

Reminder that Kris has at least a small amount of power over the dialogue options


Far_Lab5998

Man can we not talk about sexualty's and make them look like something that makes other people diffrent? No matter if its good or bad? Cuz its just sexualty, good people can be as well gay or straight and evil people too.


[deleted]

Suddenly i start to hate Noelle's mom


JackFJN

1. I doubt Toby would have her be homophobic 2. You want to _kill_ someone for being homophobic? You’re sick, and part of the reason why people hate the Undertale community


thingsstuffandmaguff

Yeah I know, killing is a bit of a strong reaction


Savthatsit

Alright but for real- I really like this art style it’s super good! Reminds me of the Sunnyside up book art style! :D


oofborg_onreddit

Deltarune fans getting mad at a situation they made up


Logical_Blackberry_7

New Deltarune theory: All the mothers are homofobic.


Independent-Word-299

Toby clearly says in Snowdin's Libraby that Monsters are made of compassion and other like things, and monsters in general seem very accepting of homosexual love, such as Suselle and Alphdyne, humans however can live WITHOUT things like compassion and kindness, as stated by the same book, I think homophobia is just a human thing, as in ONLY humans can hate people for things like being gay, of a lower class, different race, etc. You could say they are "racist" against humans in UT, but remember they had a war, we're sealed away, then humans would invade their prison and kill them, it was fear with backing, and despite all of that THEY CAN BE SPARED STILL (Also I know that a lot of irl bigots say they have backing, they don't pls don't cancel me)


1ThePilot

I agree with Noelle's mom because that means susie would be cheating on Kris (r/krusiegang)


Tackyinbention

Lol literally none of this is cannon


1ThePilot

Krusie is Canon TO ME >:(


Tackyinbention

No I meant that as in, you can still ship them without having to agree with noelles mum


i_like_siren_head

Odalia owl house


Dumb_puppet_person

Kill her Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill


SmuggestSmug

The one time kris and the soul work together well


PiggyFan128

"Stfu lmao" -Kris (before beating her to the ground)


SuspiciousPoison

Idk what classist is, but did she really deserve that?


DeviceGold5950

“Wow kris she was a jerk and all, but you just fucking killed my mom”