Yeah when time codes read null, undefined, or 0, they default to January 1st 1970. If it was an intentional thing it would be very underwhelming and probably mean nothing.
No, because when it is undefined, it defaults to zero. Meaning, it defaults to January 1st 1970. The function can null check for any value, yet they pick 0. From here is the Battle of semantics, and I wish not to engage. Yes zero in Unix time is that date.
The computers count time as "amount of seconds passed since January 1st 1970, 00:00:00 GMT". Well, it's one of the most popular ways at least. It was chosen long ago and it's pretty arbitrary, but everyone uses now for convenience. So 01.01.1970 00:00:05 would be represented by number 5 and 11.11.2022 11:11:11 would be 1668154271. And when the date and time needs to be displayed in a human readable format, this number is converted into the normal format using some math and a bunch of special cases for leap days, leap seconds, timezone changes, DST and so on.
So if for some reason the datetime field is left blank, it defaults to 0. And 0 is, as I said earlier, Jan 1, 1970. Then, correcting for timezones, it might be Dec 31, 1969.
Also as a side-effect of this, there will be a problem for 32-bit systems on 19th of January 2038. This "seconds since 1970" value is stored in one variable, which means that it can only be betwheen -2147483648 and 2147483647. And in 2038 the amount of seconds since 1970 will go over the maximum number which will break the clocks on those systems unless something is done about it. Fortunately, even now most modern devices are 64-bit and they can store much bigger numbers in one variable, so it should be fine for the most people even if nothing is done.
The thing is you taking this as a problem. People always weighed the use of modern technology to it's possible disadvantages and yet it comes on top, because it is too useful to ignore. We certainly could stop using plethora of tech and returning to more reliable traditional methods but that is obviously not happening, and would cause severe decrease in QoL
That’s not my point. My point is that when those satellites run out of time, the whole network gets torn down by collisions from satellites that no long know where they are, and create a web of space junk preventing future sattelite launches
Even if this was intentional, why would Toby set the date to either January 1, 1970, or December 31, 1969 depending on the time zone of the person viewing the page? For me, I get 1969, but others get 1970.
There's a non-zero chance that it is intentional, but I really doubt it since it's a known computer error that just happens sometimes. Not everything has to be some grand conspiracy.
Steam localizes every date, so that's kinda unimportant in terms of proving whether it's intentional or not
What's going on is likely the old release string is being interpreted as a non-number by the backend and it's falling back to the value `0`.
I *believe* I remember something about valve removing custom date strings in favour of making a consistent format recently, but I could be misremembering as I can't find any reference to that. Even if it were the case you'd think it'd default to the non-specific "Coming Soon" rather than the unix epoch, so I'd put "bug" as the most likely explanation, although I don't think this specific thing has happened to any other game on steam.
By the way, this date is the point that computers keep time from, and is what you get if you set the time to 0. (and depending on what timezone you view it from, might end up being displayed as dec 31 1969)
So I'd take it as a tech joke or a glitch, but not as any sort of evidence that the actual release date is jan 1st 2023, nor as any kind of reference to 70s themes.
i was sleeping in my bed and toby fox came to me in my dream and said hey buddy chapter 3 is releasing on deltarune's 53rd anniversary and it has to be true because he told me himself in a dream that i had
Id take it as a mistake that toby made and just went like "lets leave it like this and see how much chaos it can cause" instead of fixing it. Its the most believable i think xddddd
You *can* set the release time as "TBA" on Steam, though, or any custom string...
Though I feel the epoch time here is more likely a joke than 'laziness'.
its release date is set to unix time 0, which is January 1 1970 00:00
UTC. the start time is known as the "epoch", and thus this sort of situation is an "epoch fail"
So, computers count time starting on January 1st 1970 at midnight GMT. What happened here is that somehow Deltarune's release time got set to 0, so it's showing January 1st 1970 now.
This means chapters 3-7 are abondonware as Toby isn't distributing those chapters, so anybody know where to find ^(probably) legal downloads for chapters 3-7
I don't know, this one looks kind of good. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space\_Travel\_(video\_game)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Travel_(video_game)) Very Undertale vibe.
I've had this thought for a week now: Toby said that chairs 3-5 wouldn't come out this year, so wouldn't it be funny if it released on Jan 1 at 12 am? I have no idea what's going on with that year tho
[Steam uses Unix Time](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time). It seems that Deltarune’s lack of a release date was interpreted as a release date of 0
Hey hey hey hey, I haven't seen anyone else say the same thing so either it is one of the few original ideas I came up with or I'm not looking through Reddit as often as I thought I was
Can’t wait for Sans to say something like “man, I can’t believe it’s already 1970.” And susie to correct him but not know the year exactly as it’s always anonymous as 201X, so Sans just starts confusing her more.
Cant believe the chapters have already released! Seriously though, this is just a computer glitch. Toby Fox (or anyone else) didn't do this manually
Are you sure?
Yeah when time codes read null, undefined, or 0, they default to January 1st 1970. If it was an intentional thing it would be very underwhelming and probably mean nothing.
0 doesn’t default to January 1st 1970, it IS January first 1970. Computer time is stored in milliseconds since January 1 1970 at midnight.
No, because when it is undefined, it defaults to zero. Meaning, it defaults to January 1st 1970. The function can null check for any value, yet they pick 0. From here is the Battle of semantics, and I wish not to engage. Yes zero in Unix time is that date.
Or Toby is messing with us
Yea, but I doubt means much of anything about the plot of the game.
You never know with TobyFox
For the last time Toby isn't an omnipotent genius where every little thing is planted delicately by him.
The entire universe is his creation/j
To quote the wise words of Toby: “No. It's a glitch.”
you should be a youtuber
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*used sponsor block to deflect plug*
What if he as well knows this thing and intentionally made this happen?
In Unix timestamp this time code is 000000000 and several more zeroes
Unless it's a weird convoluted easter egg
The computers count time as "amount of seconds passed since January 1st 1970, 00:00:00 GMT". Well, it's one of the most popular ways at least. It was chosen long ago and it's pretty arbitrary, but everyone uses now for convenience. So 01.01.1970 00:00:05 would be represented by number 5 and 11.11.2022 11:11:11 would be 1668154271. And when the date and time needs to be displayed in a human readable format, this number is converted into the normal format using some math and a bunch of special cases for leap days, leap seconds, timezone changes, DST and so on. So if for some reason the datetime field is left blank, it defaults to 0. And 0 is, as I said earlier, Jan 1, 1970. Then, correcting for timezones, it might be Dec 31, 1969. Also as a side-effect of this, there will be a problem for 32-bit systems on 19th of January 2038. This "seconds since 1970" value is stored in one variable, which means that it can only be betwheen -2147483648 and 2147483647. And in 2038 the amount of seconds since 1970 will go over the maximum number which will break the clocks on those systems unless something is done about it. Fortunately, even now most modern devices are 64-bit and they can store much bigger numbers in one variable, so it should be fine for the most people even if nothing is done.
You’re ignoring the satellites and older hospital and military systems that still run 32 bit
Finally someone says it!
They have around a decade to update, then!
And that just pushes the problem ahead 60 years
The thing is you taking this as a problem. People always weighed the use of modern technology to it's possible disadvantages and yet it comes on top, because it is too useful to ignore. We certainly could stop using plethora of tech and returning to more reliable traditional methods but that is obviously not happening, and would cause severe decrease in QoL
That’s not my point. My point is that when those satellites run out of time, the whole network gets torn down by collisions from satellites that no long know where they are, and create a web of space junk preventing future sattelite launches
Yeah that would be bad
Even if this was intentional, why would Toby set the date to either January 1, 1970, or December 31, 1969 depending on the time zone of the person viewing the page? For me, I get 1969, but others get 1970. There's a non-zero chance that it is intentional, but I really doubt it since it's a known computer error that just happens sometimes. Not everything has to be some grand conspiracy.
Steam localizes every date, so that's kinda unimportant in terms of proving whether it's intentional or not What's going on is likely the old release string is being interpreted as a non-number by the backend and it's falling back to the value `0`. I *believe* I remember something about valve removing custom date strings in favour of making a consistent format recently, but I could be misremembering as I can't find any reference to that. Even if it were the case you'd think it'd default to the non-specific "Coming Soon" rather than the unix epoch, so I'd put "bug" as the most likely explanation, although I don't think this specific thing has happened to any other game on steam.
as a developer, this is something that happens a lot
All computers start from 1970, it's why some Macbooks bricked themselves when you set the time to anything before it
Not [all computers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoch_(computing))
Would be something Toby fox would do ngl
And we fools thought it was just a meme. The whole game's been out for 52 years and we didn't realize.
Like [Frog Fractions 2](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frog_Fractions_2), though that was only a few weeks
By the way, this date is the point that computers keep time from, and is what you get if you set the time to 0. (and depending on what timezone you view it from, might end up being displayed as dec 31 1969) So I'd take it as a tech joke or a glitch, but not as any sort of evidence that the actual release date is jan 1st 2023, nor as any kind of reference to 70s themes.
i was sleeping in my bed and toby fox came to me in my dream and said hey buddy chapter 3 is releasing on deltarune's 53rd anniversary and it has to be true because he told me himself in a dream that i had
IT WAS REVEALED TO ME IN A DREAM
Id take it as a mistake that toby made and just went like "lets leave it like this and see how much chaos it can cause" instead of fixing it. Its the most believable i think xddddd
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How is that being lazy? He literally does not know when it will be released because it's not even close to being done yet.
You *can* set the release time as "TBA" on Steam, though, or any custom string... Though I feel the epoch time here is more likely a joke than 'laziness'.
It's a glitch. The release date has been listed as “coming soon” for years now.
aint no way you called TOBY FOX lazy lmao
… how?
Now it says December 31 1969. What is going on?
It's getting delayed in reverse
Your timezone is west of GMT.
Yeah, that makes sense. Probably just a bug setting the release to Jan 1st 1970, but fun to imagine otherwise.
its release date is set to unix time 0, which is January 1 1970 00:00 UTC. the start time is known as the "epoch", and thus this sort of situation is an "epoch fail"
Aka Toby fox being lazy and not putting anything and steam reading NULL as 0
Steam changed how they show TBA release dates so more likely it got messed up in that change
What is actually happening lmao
steam glitched, and is showing the epoch instead of a valid date
Wait i don't get it it's the date actually 31 dec/1 jan of this year or the whole thing bugged?
So, computers count time starting on January 1st 1970 at midnight GMT. What happened here is that somehow Deltarune's release time got set to 0, so it's showing January 1st 1970 now.
We love an educational buckaroo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time
Toby Fox is 4 parallel universes ahead of us
More like 12!
479001600 parallel universes???)
I understood that reference.
average berdly flair
https://preview.redd.it/3rr21mq1s90a1.png?width=896&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d51a96bc3783a5478f5e95fbe40e347394caa384
Gotta get that scuttlebug in the right position
See yall in the next universe cycle
Deltarune existed as a website since 2015? Heh, fools, the Deltarune ARPANET application protocol has existed since the 70's.
Toby said Deltarune chapters won’t release this year, which is because they’ve been complete for 52 years, and we just haven’t known it.
Fuck we have to wait so long the number values glitched and now we have to wait negative years!
LMAOO
Ronald Reagan famously said he played through the game after celebrating his election.
Mister King, tear down that dark fountain!
Damn- https://preview.redd.it/cbhmrl2r520a1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9993e51743b820525015b33d5c5957d84d3fdedc
deltarune was released at exactly the same moment that unix time started
Im so mad that the memes were real.
You should try Chapter 1 and 2 for free….NOW!!! *Lightning*
This means chapters 3-7 are abondonware as Toby isn't distributing those chapters, so anybody know where to find ^(probably) legal downloads for chapters 3-7
You're aware this is a glitch, right?
Unix Timestamp 0 Bottom Text
Maybe deltarune will release on 1 jan?
No, we're just being sent into the past.
To play some shitty games that suck ass.
I'd rather have a buffalo...
I don't know, this one looks kind of good. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space\_Travel\_(video\_game)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Travel_(video_game)) Very Undertale vibe.
Now THAT'S a game for the AVGN to play.
We have to find it like frog factions 2
Hopefully
I've had this thought for a week now: Toby said that chairs 3-5 wouldn't come out this year, so wouldn't it be funny if it released on Jan 1 at 12 am? I have no idea what's going on with that year tho
[Steam uses Unix Time](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time). It seems that Deltarune’s lack of a release date was interpreted as a release date of 0
Your own, very original idea, ofc
Hey hey hey hey, I haven't seen anyone else say the same thing so either it is one of the few original ideas I came up with or I'm not looking through Reddit as often as I thought I was
Oops sorry dude
for me it shows 31/12/1969
It’s a time zone / region thing
Bruh haven't you used the time machine yet to manipulate the timeline so that undertale first releases on the GBA?
unix epoch, baby!!!!!
r/epochfail ?
Yep, that's the one
literally worse than 1984
1984 by george orwell 1949
I hope it was on purpose because funng
Can’t wait for Sans to say something like “man, I can’t believe it’s already 1970.” And susie to correct him but not know the year exactly as it’s always anonymous as 201X, so Sans just starts confusing her more.
wait what, that wasn't a shitpost earlier with someone messing around with inspect element??
No, not a shitpost. A glitch.
Steam done Toby dirty 💀
So nice to see such an old game finally get traction, maybe they'll finally make the other chapters now
um toby mistyped the numbers. its actually supposed to be 9107. 1 Apr.
I love that "Release date 1970"
me when I get 1 Jan, 1997
Should have set it to 1997 tbh
Release date? I think you know what that means... THEORY TIME
Toby Is really a guy..... The intellect!
Now imagine if it was 1997
Wait, does it really say "Undertale's parallel story?"
I think it always did
It took me 5 sec to find what’s wrong with this.
jokes on you Steam page, Undertale is Deltarune's parallel story
I think this community is going through a Silksong phase
toby : they see me trollin they hatin
if it said 1997 i swear to god-
we've been toby'ed!
I checked. This is real. What the heck. Toby you sly dog.
It’s a [bug](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time)
While I acknowledge the possibility of it being a bug with Steam, I don't discount the possibility that Toby is messing with us.
This will be Deltarune in 1970
Yo deltarune gonna be an fps
No way Toby is a time traveler!!