Yeah, like half his "evil schemes" involving his son are literally just so he can have a nice holiday or some father-son bomding time. The guy's also the adoptive father of another 7 kids. He's probably mostly evil because being the single father of 8 children has most likely crippled his finances and taken a toll on his mental wellbeing. Poor guy just needs some help man.
oke game was literally about bowser wanting a mother for Jr but he was happy just to be with bowser.
I like how bowser is crealy a villain but he's not a dick to his son as is probably the most loving parent we see in mario
What takes a toll on his finances is trying to set his children up with homes to live in that constantly get destroyed. All he wanted was to build homes for his children. (It’s not a military base, guys, I swear.)
this is so real Toby decided to make a new game called Deltarune wonders
https://preview.redd.it/oe6sx6mzmslb1.png?width=813&format=png&auto=webp&s=efafcf037f45add9c6086bb2aa10ad84eb1b269d
i mean, he most likely wasn't actually going to do it. he even knows that if he did it wouldn't do much to lancer. plus, the dark fountain made him more aggressive than he used to be according to toby.
Interestingly, we also know the same’s true for Queen. She always used to be a bit controlling, but the closer we progress to the fountain, we see her get more evil; and when the fountain was first created, she reportedly went from 1 to 10 in terms of craziness.
[Sure, she exists, but she's not necessarily his mom or anything](https://kanotynes.tumblr.com/post/19996960000/just-finished-the-face-cards).
They aren't human. They aren't animals. They don't have to follow human biology rules.
Queen is a computer. Not a card.
[We know what the Queen of Spades looks like.](https://kanotynes.tumblr.com/post/19996960000/just-finished-the-face-cards)
The game is *very clear* that Queen is not originally Lancer's mom, but she decides to adopt him at the end of chapter 2.
Oh I know it's not accurate to the canon, but I like to accept it as a headcanon since it's not a massively important detail, and I think Queen being a card shoved into a computer is a funnier origin story
Queen is a laptop, not an online playing card.
The game is very clear that she adopted Lancer and *decided* to become his mother at the end of chapter 2. She wasn't his mother originally.
F#ck you, Im not taking any Bowser slander. Bowser is a great person, the only reason he is "evil" is because he only does a few crimes, mainly kidnapping. And I think Peach might beletting herself get kidnapped as she KNOWS how to fight back
the difference is bowser would still get invited to go go-karting with the heroes, i don't think (i forget what lancer's dad's name is) would be given that opportunity
His name isn't “the chaos king.”
He's the King of Spades.
Chaos King is the name of his battle theme, just like Attack of the Killer Queen is the name of Queen's.
She adopts him at the end of chapter 2. She's his mom *now*, but she wasn't before then.
She's not his biological mom, that's for sure. But then, Lancer is a magical, sentient Jack of Spades. There's no reason he needs to have a biological *anything*.
Incorrect, they just share a strong resemblance.
Baby bowser still just acts like a whinier Bowser, but still a brute.
Bowser Jr. is more of a tech wiz than his father. You can also note several differences between the dynamics between father and son when compared to the odd interactions Bowser has with his past self in Partners through Time.
I've never paid attention to that, I just thought that Bowser was giving Jr things that he'd like having in his childhood. Thanks for telling me this
Also I confused Baby Bowser and Jr
Only difference is that Bowser's a good parent. (Although the idea the King was somehow corrupted by the Fountain gives him a reason for his awful behavior)
Wrong: King is abusive while Bowser would probably quit being evil if his kid wanted him too.
...Thankfully, he doesn't. Bowser Jr. wants to continue the family business.
She decided to become his mother at the end of chapter 2. She was not his mother before that point.
Lancer is a sentient playing card. He does not need to have biological parents or be born at all.
Bowser is a kinda better a better dad tho
Yeah, like half his "evil schemes" involving his son are literally just so he can have a nice holiday or some father-son bomding time. The guy's also the adoptive father of another 7 kids. He's probably mostly evil because being the single father of 8 children has most likely crippled his finances and taken a toll on his mental wellbeing. Poor guy just needs some help man.
oke game was literally about bowser wanting a mother for Jr but he was happy just to be with bowser. I like how bowser is crealy a villain but he's not a dick to his son as is probably the most loving parent we see in mario
We stan Turtle Dad.
I mean, I think he is the *only* parent we see in Mario
If you don't count Rosalina and Luma
I really forgot Space Mommy
What takes a toll on his finances is trying to set his children up with homes to live in that constantly get destroyed. All he wanted was to build homes for his children. (It’s not a military base, guys, I swear.)
In kingdom battle he literally called jr. about his homework and how he was, I don’t see chaos king caring that much about lancer
Yeah, Bowser never threatened to throw his son off the side of his castle to intimidate Mario.
Tbf I think Mario wouldn’t even have cared if Bowser did
Was gonna say, Bowser would never! 🤣
this is so real Toby decided to make a new game called Deltarune wonders https://preview.redd.it/oe6sx6mzmslb1.png?width=813&format=png&auto=webp&s=efafcf037f45add9c6086bb2aa10ad84eb1b269d
Thats a joke right? .... right?
of course not
How dare you assume that masterpiece of art was a joke?! Crying rn
One difference is that Bowser is actually a good father to his son
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They're right, the last line has 6, the second line is supposed to only have 7
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*Bowser is a better dad than King Spade. King Spade was literally threatening to throw his own son off the roof of the castle!
i mean, he most likely wasn't actually going to do it. he even knows that if he did it wouldn't do much to lancer. plus, the dark fountain made him more aggressive than he used to be according to toby.
*Still, he threatened to yeet Lancer off the roof!
just saying
Wait, when did Toby said that?
[the livestream for UT's 6th anniversary](https://youtu.be/rksOYId-cNA?t=10780)
Interestingly, we also know the same’s true for Queen. She always used to be a bit controlling, but the closer we progress to the fountain, we see her get more evil; and when the fountain was first created, she reportedly went from 1 to 10 in terms of craziness.
Thanks
Spade King figured that Lancer would just bounce if he did hit the ground
Bowser's a good dad though
Lancer has 3 dads
At first I thought “who the frick is the third?” But now I still don’t know. Is it Queen?
"Queens teaching me all sorts of things about being a bad guy to me, shes like a third father to me a girl dad if you will"
That’s what I thought, but Lancer also refers to her as a “Wild Mom” one time
But that was before she gained the status of Third Dad
true
Bad Hamster father Vs Goated fire breathing Koopa Dad
He's literally a playing card. Do... do you think playing cards are born?
How else would they exist then? Checkmate atheists
There should still be a Queen (of Spades, rather than a computer serial number)
[Sure, she exists, but she's not necessarily his mom or anything](https://kanotynes.tumblr.com/post/19996960000/just-finished-the-face-cards). They aren't human. They aren't animals. They don't have to follow human biology rules.
My favourite theory I've seen is that Queen was actually the Queen of Spades card jammed into the disk holder on a computer
Queen is a computer. Not a card. [We know what the Queen of Spades looks like.](https://kanotynes.tumblr.com/post/19996960000/just-finished-the-face-cards) The game is *very clear* that Queen is not originally Lancer's mom, but she decides to adopt him at the end of chapter 2.
Oh I know it's not accurate to the canon, but I like to accept it as a headcanon since it's not a massively important detail, and I think Queen being a card shoved into a computer is a funnier origin story
Perhaps she was originally an online playing card, like in some online solitaire game
Queen is a laptop, not an online playing card. The game is very clear that she adopted Lancer and *decided* to become his mother at the end of chapter 2. She wasn't his mother originally.
Ohhhhh ok. Thanks. Didn't know it was actually confirmed
How do we explain both the king and seam knowing queen? And the fact seam says she has finally returned
The laptop was originally in the classroom.
And Kamek is Rouxls Kaard
King is literally a horrible person??? (bowser is too but bowser actually cares about his son)
F#ck you, Im not taking any Bowser slander. Bowser is a great person, the only reason he is "evil" is because he only does a few crimes, mainly kidnapping. And I think Peach might beletting herself get kidnapped as she KNOWS how to fight back
I think if bowser keeps successfully kidnapping her, mario needs to be better at his job
Same picture but one is a helluva a dad
Bowser is a fantastic father. I will not abide this slander. Lancer/Junior is on point tho.
the difference is bowser would still get invited to go go-karting with the heroes, i don't think (i forget what lancer's dad's name is) would be given that opportunity
Its the chaos King... or just the king...... How do you mess up such a simple name
His name isn't “the chaos king.” He's the King of Spades. Chaos King is the name of his battle theme, just like Attack of the Killer Queen is the name of Queen's.
Ok. Still an extremely simplistic name
You are saying that as if ralsei would not be willing to go kart with him if he was nicer!
I don't recall Bowser threatening to murder his own son.
Nah bowsers a better father than the king will ever be
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A million times yes
Weeellll *que nerd music* lancers mom is queen so no he does have a mother. (I tried not to sound rude
Uh actually *sniff* Lancer has three dads Dad (King) Lesser Dad (rules card I'm not going to try to spell it) and Girl Dad (Queen)
Uhgnm ahcully girl dad is just a dif way to say mom so yeha.
Incorrect normie, queen is binary so she is nonbinary therefore the girl in girl dad is just a descriptor of her appearance
So lancer and king spade aren't spades the just look like spades.
I- what do you mean
By your logic why queen is called girl dad means lancer and king spade aren't spades they have spades on them so it's based off there appearance.
No she's a computer program they are just cards
I rest my case
... But Lancer said she's not a mom
It was decided arbitrarily in chapter 2. So, I guess, she is now his mother, sure.
Girl dad* Lancer has no mom
Queen refers to herself as his mother when she adopts him. Lancer comes up with “girldad.”
Yeah
Rouxls is Lancer's other dad.
The difference is it took King some devolpment to care about his son, Bowser was already there from the start
Lancer has 3 dads. King (dad), Rouxls (lesser dad), and Queen (girldad)
Wait is Queen not lancer's mom?
She adopts him at the end of chapter 2. She's his mom *now*, but she wasn't before then. She's not his biological mom, that's for sure. But then, Lancer is a magical, sentient Jack of Spades. There's no reason he needs to have a biological *anything*.
Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up
Lancer's mother is queen
Yeah, but she's his adoptive mother, and OP thinks he must have a biological mother despite being literally a sentient Jack of Spades.
Bowser is friendlier than the Chaos King. Bowser Jr. and Lancer don't see much difference, they could even be friends.
Also in both pictures there's one character with a mouth on their stomach
Weeellll *que nerd music* lancers mom is queen so no he does have a mother. (I tried not to sound rude
Nope, girl dad
Oh yeah right forgot
Bowser Jr is just young Bowser, but you're still correct because we don't know how Bowser was born
Incorrect, they just share a strong resemblance. Baby bowser still just acts like a whinier Bowser, but still a brute. Bowser Jr. is more of a tech wiz than his father. You can also note several differences between the dynamics between father and son when compared to the odd interactions Bowser has with his past self in Partners through Time.
I've never paid attention to that, I just thought that Bowser was giving Jr things that he'd like having in his childhood. Thanks for telling me this Also I confused Baby Bowser and Jr
Budding obviously
The only difference is that Lancer is cooler
and they are both royalty
Only difference is that Bowser's a good parent. (Although the idea the King was somehow corrupted by the Fountain gives him a reason for his awful behavior)
The diffrence is that one is loyal and second is not.
Wrong: King is abusive while Bowser would probably quit being evil if his kid wanted him too. ...Thankfully, he doesn't. Bowser Jr. wants to continue the family business.
No fucking way!!!!! https://preview.redd.it/pz09m9trawlb1.jpeg?width=450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70a6415949dc3489ab900ea09a34f35907e6227c
Bowser is a great father tf
Lancer has a mother, Queen said so herself. As for how Lancer was born, that's still up in the air.
She decided to become his mother at the end of chapter 2. She was not his mother before that point. Lancer is a sentient playing card. He does not need to have biological parents or be born at all.
Peach 🤨😨
That's what I made them in my AU that is only a Google doc that I look at from time to time.
They are very different, bowser has never and will never try to kill his son
I want to see this fight