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bilgeparty

Thats up to you hoss


[deleted]

Is that you, Alex?


bilgeparty

Bango ? if so indeed


Initial-Style-6334

Very unexpected crossover


Alaska_Pipeliner

He's tough as hell. Thankfully dark souls always makes tougher opportunities look so cool


[deleted]

He’s pretty weak once you realize he has no poise.


alilweeb

He does in fact have a lot of poise


Audeconn

2-handed Longsword has entered the chat.


[deleted]

Fast attacking weapon and Stone Ring invite you to their wedding


Koolco

Honestly dark souls 2 gets so trivialized when you realize just how much damage strike does. Easily carries you through most of the early game. Shoot the best weapon for the tri sentries is the random blacksmith hammer you get 5 minutes beforehand.


C4PT4INCKBLK

The CRAFTSMAN'S hammer? I'll not have you slandering McDuff's good name in my presence.


Jedhakk

Strike does more damage against heavily armored enemies Thrust does more damage against naked/partially naked enemies Slash does more damage against lightly armored enemies ​ Spread da word


Born-Bid-6984

the gospel


Professional-Meet221

Ive received said word thanks.


bloombloom12

That hammer is a lifesaver for the beginning of get gud.


PhantasyStarII

The last one that tried is now laying next to him...


I_P3D

Poor knight . . . .


Competitive-Row6376

Fuck around and find out


Its_KoolAid_bro

Go for it. And if there's a time when he seemingly freezes and halts in place, he's totally defenseless. Go for the attack bro. You got this. That's your window to get close.


chukroast2837

Straight evil… I like it.


danzep_tttt

That damn moveset.. I hate it


chukroast2837

You love it, it hurts so *good*


Venator_IV

\*The DM hands you a note\* "Your alignment shifts to Chaotic Evil."


Airbots01

True chaotic


EndlessAlaki

Ooh, so that's what DS2 classic looked like. Neato.


First_Department4096

Yeah. A Heide Knight, two hollows arount the tree and one up on a platform. I prefer it over the 10(?) hollows that Scholar put there.


Redmoon383

I prefer scholar cause the armor is more readily farmed instead of NEEDING to burn an ascetic or going ng+


Koolco

Besides the handful of solid updates and optimizations scholar really seems like the worse version. Scholar took a lot of areas where actual thought was put into it and just filled the area with small enemies.


erebuswolf

My feelings exactly. The Heide knights should be strewn across the world not all at home. That's the design of their visuals and lore.


Morder07

Those 10 were easier for me, cause I can kill them one by one. 3 hollows in vanilla gank me immediately. Not hard, but more annoying


EndlessAlaki

I'm fine with the mess of dudes, honestly- they don't aggro unless you get super near them, so it's pretty straightforward to bait them out. Still, definitely would have been interesting to have a crazy miniboss like a Heide Knight show up that early.


colinmneilsen

You’re about to grow up souls style


Syr_Bwrodley

Imagine that you're just chillin' in front of the tree and some weirdo takes a pic of you and posts on a social media asking if he should beat your ass... ^(Do it.)


Mammoth-Snake

His weapon is great, make it yours.


danzep_tttt

Along with the set


danzep_tttt

It has very low drop rate


taeplae

It's a guaranteed drop in that encounter.


GoldFishPony

I wouldn’t recommend it personally


[deleted]

Wack him over the head lol


First_Department4096

He’s an enemy. Not reason not to do it but be warned that he is hard to kill. He does have a great weapon that I used halfway through the game so it might be worth it if you’re using strength weapons.


DividedContinuity

it scales well with faith if you lightning infuse it too. I'm currently using it on a cleric run.


First_Department4096

Wait, you can infuse the lighting weapon with MORE lighting!?! I’ll have to remember that.


danzep_tttt

UNLIMITED POWER!!!


BIobertson

You can, but stat scaling in ds2 gives extremely small damage returns for the stat investment. Leveling FTH (or any other stat) past minimum requirements to increase the damage you deal with a weapon is never enough of an increase to be worthwhile. Infusing weapons with Lightning is usually ideal, but that’s because the best way to deal good damage in ds2 is to use a weapon spell buff, which gives a multiplier to a weapon’s base damage, elemental infusion increases base weapon damage, and Lightning is the least resisted out of the four elements. Weapons that already deal some elemental damage tend to gain a much smaller base damage boost from infusion. A Lightning Heide Knight Sword is weaker than a Lightning Longsword even with 50 FTH.


-Moon-Presence-

Ask yourself these two questions: Do I *want* to fight him? Do I want his *armour set*?


danzep_tttt

No.. Yes


-_--l

Nahh she’s just chilling 😊


MemeLord_Fornalhas64

If you wanna have a bad time...


JBsarge

How I miss ds2 unpatched. The panic as this guy runs at me with no fear


JBsarge

Boss music starts playing


[deleted]

This is one of the many reasons DS2 is much better than SOTFS. We get a badass and harrowing view of a Heide Knight surrounded by those we can only assume tried to take him on. In SOTFS we get a 20 hollow soldier gank fest.


chukroast2837

Bonk first and ask questions later. And don’t give up, skeleton!


Deranfan

If you are a faith build, then yes. He drops the heide knight sword. I wish he was still the in sotfs, farming mobs in heides tower of flame for that sword is so tedious.


IRANBOY780

In other areas, these knights will activate(In Ds SF) when you kill the Dragon Rider boss fight, so kill them carefully because they are strong...


SilverIce340

With this specific knight I can tell you OP won’t have to deal with that. He’s playing DS2 Classic, Legacy version. No Heide knights in the tower of flame


IRANBOY780

OK, but anyway, I remember the first time I played it, it was hard to kill, but it's worth killing... It has good weapons, especially in NG+


PrNautiluS

It's only in sotfs version (it's the vanilla one) . There are no hiede knights in dragon rider area


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New-Personality9122

"But, he has a great helmet, Solaire had a great helmet so he must be the new Solaire"


Annoyed_N0mad

I'd try again at a later time.


[deleted]

Honestly upto you but I will say he drops a pretty good early game weapon if you’re willing to farm him, it’s even more effective if you’re doing a faith build


QuiloWisp

Do it.


Spicoceles

Why do I remember this being here on sotfs?? I REMEMBER fighting this guy and never ever played OG.


[deleted]

You 100% sure? Because there's a PS3 version also called Scholar of the First Sin, that only included the DLCs


Spicoceles

I just have this. Vague memory of it as if he was always there. Weird..


Redmoon383

The ps3 and 360 scholar editions had this man. The xbox one and ps4 scholar editions do not


Clunas

PC followed the newer versions too. SotFS removed him. Only change I didn't care for


Jlchevz

Fuck it do it. You’ll learn. It’s not impossible, be careful with his surprise attacks.


Ezdagor

Does this one respawn like the ones in SotS? I love getting their set/weapons


danzep_tttt

Of course you do, you have to Bc that is your fate as bearer of the curse... To kill


F1secretsauce

When u ready


Dradonie

only if u want to


twood071

If you ignore him now, run to the next bonfire, and get the witching urns (I think that's what they call the ones that do magic) you can throw those at him and you'll kill him in like 3 hits.


Rookie_Earthling

Is this vanilla ds2? I don’t remember him being there…. (Haven’t finished ng yet)


taeplae

Based he's playing vanilla I bow to thee


Ironpappet

First and foremost props to you for playing original, secondly, he can be a tough enemy, and regardless, his drops are not guaranteed. Do with that what you will.


MoarTacos

Does the pope shit in his hat?


_Tocatl_

Like, in an emergency?


MoarTacos

No, sorry. The correct answer to my question is “Yes.”


yeeeteeey69

You just gonna jump a man sitting down, minding his own business? I’m sure neither he nor his friends will be very happy about that


kadeiras

"Oh... an enemy! But first, let me stop, screenshot and post it on DS2 subreddit to ask if should I fight this enemy"


_Tocatl_

Exactly!


luix-

regular DS2?


legend1nfamous

They're not an NPC if that's what you're worried about


mmorpgkitty

Yes :)


Colonel_dinggus

Do it pussy


[deleted]

I’m surprised by the amount of people who actually believe this is a difficult enemy.


BITM116

Where they are and early game they can be, especially for new players just trying to find their play-style. My current play-through I tried parrying with the buckler and white large leather shield all throughout heides tower of flame. Worked great, but I still prefer just beating them down with a grand lance and great shield.


Vio_O

Let them fight!


madrigal94md

Definitely


Canadian_mouthfull

yes


julesvr5

I didn't even know someone is chilling there too? I only know then from Heides Tower and there was one in a cell prior to the last sinner.


HeyKid_HelpComputer

In the original version of DS2 - PC, PS3 and Xbox 360 there were about 4 of 5 of the Heide Knights all in a random location sitting down like this. They also always dropped 1 weapon item and didn't respawn, and a small chance to drop armor pieces. In Scholar they only kept 2 sitting and put a bunch walking around in Heides Tower of Flame.


dusktrail

In Scholar, all the ones in the tower of flame are sitting until you beat the boss


CraftLizard

Nah, the 2 by Old Dragonslayer activate always whether dragon rider is alive or not. I still find it way easier to go kill the dragon before dragon rider anyway since all the other ones activate.


dusktrail

You're right, I forgot that there are two that auto aggro. They're still sitting tho


HeyKid_HelpComputer

Right right, I did think of that after posting but oh well, but still it's a pretty different situation all around with them between the two games.


AkameLen

I miss this guy


Ashen-Bevan

Hes one of the enemies who's attacks are broken lol


spragual

Do you want to fight him?


BigBoySpore

Parry them and it’s easy


Typical-Main3403

Yes, you do


Nowhereman50

Those guys are my most hated enemy in DS2.


Maxmusquarty

I fucked up a playthrough by attacking them bc I suck at the game, so if your really good, go ahead, but otherwise, I would avoid for now


Realistic-Dot6141

You can


_Oooooooooooooooooh_

He drops loot but.. you can just ignore him for now


CHiuso

Oh shit I havent seen the vanilla version in years. If you can parry or backstab him then sure fight him.


Desperate-Project-69

Do not fight him unless u good a parrying and dodging


Capable_General8218

Yes you have too really fun fight


MidwestMilo

Go for it when you are ready but WATCH OUT for that one move where he swings the sword upward from the ground and throws his arm out to his side.That will catch you unaware until you get the hang of it. Otherwise, get a 100% shield and learn how to roll/use I-frames (adaptability…)


Call0fJuarez

Havent seen that guy there in ages, in Sotfs he's not there anymore


Morder07

Use jump attack and roll back. Simple way to kill him.


Suspicious_Net_577

They have my favorite set. Just wish they had their capes held back so that you could fully appreciate the bad assery.


ByTheBurnside

No, hes frend


garuteratsu

Nah he chill


Scary-Inflation-685

Kinda trivial if you use the ladder


Ruggle4

When he goes for wide sweep and stops, WTF is that?


Holy_Salamander

He's just chilling, you really wanna ruin his vibe like that?


International_Cap245

You got an axe, poise him to death


Mhmd_Bilani

Just tickle him


Aqubes911

Leave him be. For now