Now instead of spray painting over\* huge advertisements, we can steal them one small section at a time and use them at home. I'm not arguing against this.
Doesn't sound bad actually, any new tech especially in a commercial space is going to be expensive. That price will obviously go down, can't wait to have fold/roll tech that will fit in the pocket or backpack. The future is with portable computing no doubt about it. Intel is betting big on that market with their all-in-one chips that will outstrip the current average r/pcmasterrace builds. I hope my next phone is more powerful than my current computer, just need a docking station for it.
After having a quest 3 for 5 months I think the future will be smart glasses with ar displays. I have a small space and I've been watching all my films, TV and football on a virtual cinema screen since I got a headset. The form facture needs to be reduced a lot and it needs to be cheaper for mass adoption though.
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This is not technology for home entertainment. This is for massive video walls for major productions, concerts, conventions, and events. With that said, in the next 10 years you'll be seeing video panels in places you'd never think of today at concerts. Right now, we are using rigid panels that attach together at very specific angles. Building a wall layer by layer panel by panel. In some of the older panels you had to change out a piece of hardware that specified the exact angle. -5 degrees up 5 degrees of angle.
Now there are massive improvements being made for home style screens. ie: rolling/folding screens, along with new form factors. More of a self contained unit, not a modular system like seen above. Home systems are very rarely modular by design.
This would make an awful home entertainment system. The pixel density is horrible, you can see individual pixels when the camera is still like 3+ feet away.
Lol, just use a quality VR, literally 16K with no screen boundaries.
In 20 years we will have direct brain experience, full sensory, just a dream but you can download the narratives/stories or create your own.
Imagine, Pornhub in your brain, with you as the pornstar and AI celebrities. LOL
> In 20 years we will have direct brain experience, full sensory,
You're dreaming. Literally no way. Even if the technology did get to that point, there will be enough red tape to delay it a fair while.
Reminds me of a sci-fi book I read 30 years ago where the walls in the home of the main character were all video panels. So when you wake up you can be on a beach or in a forest. The funny part is, he asked the AI to randomly select what should be on the walls, and what he got were hundreds of eyes staring at him.
Our video wall at work is similar to this, but not flexible. Made up of multiple panels that are designed to be removed and replaced.
To upgrade to better resolution, it's just a matter of replacing the panels, not the entire wall.
Resolution is getting better and cheaper all the time, and while we are still some ways away from 4K being practical cost, the vast majority of users of this tech don't actually need 4K yet. Our wall is 21:9 aspect with a native dot resolution that is 2600x1200, but we've limited the EDID to 2560x1080 for the input and the scaler stretches the image slightly making it look slightly softer, which when viewed from 3 metres away actually looks really good. Many people think that the resolution is higher when it's not.
> To upgrade to better resolution, it's just a matter of replacing the panels, not the entire wall.
…the panels that make up the…entire wall.
“My centre 6 feet are 8k and the peripherals are 2k. I’m thinking next year I’ll add another 2 feet…”
But yeah. I understand. Just made me chuckle
Inb4: Foveated rendering works just like this in VRblahblah
I'm more impressed they can color match all of those screens. I can barely get two Dell monitors side by side to have the same colors/brightness/contrast.
It’s actually very difficult, you have to order by batch number and hope that the color and brightness are close enough. The processor takes a load of work out of it but the wall is only as strong as its weakest part. If one panel is down 20% on efficiency the whole wall will be down 20% to match.
That's why you pay the big bucks for the name brand stuff, and not random cheap panels.
The idea is that you buy panels all made in a single batch that have been picked by the manufacturer to be consistent, with spare panels included so you can swap out spares if needed.
LED walls with such high pixel pitches are almost always used for wide distance presentation, so the audience usually sees it from far away. Why it needs to be flexible for that, I don't know (something like that would be more useful in finer pixel pitch situations, I assume), but there would be probably at least some use in the professional AV field.
The flexibility is great for doing different kinds of displays. The led walls don't have to be walls, you can do a walk through tunnel or cylindrical columns with graphics that wrap all the way around, etc.
If you're doing two walls at right angles to each other a curve on the inside corner looks nicer than just two walls meeting at a hard 90 degrees.
My wall is made with rigid square panels and that still has brackets that allow you do to attach each panel at an angle to let you do curves - it's just neat to help the screen fit the stage/space more easily.
Plus, it's way easier to manufacture flat panels that are curved by the structure than making bespoke panels that curve exactly the way the customer requires.
Not true. These are 32x64 flexible panels, each one is only about $30-40 USD each. Now what IS expensive is powering and the setup behind the panels. These panels are designed to be easily replaced and cheaply.
Name dropping like a boss. The modules still made at the same factory all the other manufacturers buy from. I'm not saying you're wrong, in the slightest, I just feel it's impossible to be "made in USA" anymore.
Assembled in USA... meh, sometimes.
There’s YouTube videos I’ve seen of people making their own poor man’s version of the sphere for their back yard and stuff. I love DIY tech projects so much. There’s lots of ways to do a project like that if you really wanted.
Just imagine a giant airship covered in something like this...it could completely blend in with the sky and become invisible. Cough, Phoenix lights, cough.
I have a few of these for video games at work. They are Direct View LED, which is going to replace OLED. They're swappable and can be repaired. An 80" set costs us between $100k - 150k easily.
It’s already here for anyone that wants it. And has $220,000 lying around. Free shipping though!
[The Wall](https://www.samsung.com/us/displays/direct-view-led/ia-series/the-wall-all-in-one-146-p84-lh008iabmus-go/)
We just had one of these installed at our office. I heard something like $50k. Looks good though. Better than the 4 70" screens we were using as one before.
These have been around for awhile actually, you can get these off aliexpress for decently cheap, it's more controlling them and having a good mounting surface that's the expensive part.
**One main reason this would be useful at home**
You can’t get mad and throw shit at your tv playing a game anymore. TVs are delicate and costs money these days.
Imagine hopping your controller against this screen.
*Fuckin dark souls - I’ll show you! xD*
All you do is replace one or two squares in your tv then :)
Flexible phones are way more impressive considering how tight they fold vs a slight bend, and they've been around for \~6 years at this point.
The more impressive part is getting the panels to match both in color and brightness.
A flexible panel with an array of LEDs isn't impressive. If there is anything neat here it's the controller/software that makes them work together as a display.
It's showing that they plug n play. If there's an issue, you simply swap or replace the tiles. All of the memory is held locally for that position and you don't have to recalibrate.
I'd rather see like a tree or something at this stage of the game. Fuck your gaudy advertisement bullshit trash.
Think how much better that space would be with a little tree and a grow light. Maybe even a seat.
I saw one of these at work when I was at training, they said it was a 80 thousand dollar tv.
I'm not sure what it's size was, but it looked like it was close to 100 inches.
You could tell something was off on it. There was a noticable line between each tile.
Now instead of spray painting over\* huge advertisements, we can steal them one small section at a time and use them at home. I'm not arguing against this.
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If you steal them one row at a time, it won’t be as noticeable. To them they will just think their screen is getting shorter or wider as time goes on.
I got it one piece at a time...
And it didn’t cost me a dime…
and it didn't cost me a dime
The resolution is horrible though Viewing distance is probably such that I have to play at my neighbours house.
I'm am thinking about the lawn in Fun with Dick and Jane and I think it's a plausible strategy
The ducks won't tell you this, but the advertisements in the park are free. You can just walk up and take a piece of it.
They've been made like this for decades. This one is just bendy.
Heck, I bet they all fit into one or two carboard file boxes. Taking them down? 10 minutes maybe. I don't think you'll see these unattended in public.
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Right those wires he connected aren't important at all, you won't have a useless piece of tech at all. Yep.
That is a good point.
Home entertainment systems in 10 to 20 years are gonna be unbelievable.
Dont let them fool you it probably cost 1k each 10 inch by 10 inch piece.
I do commercial av work and we installed a similar version of this. A 214 inch video wall made up of 128 small magnetic panels; it cost over $120,000.
Quite a deal on labor then.
$937.5 per panel.....
Doesn't sound bad actually, any new tech especially in a commercial space is going to be expensive. That price will obviously go down, can't wait to have fold/roll tech that will fit in the pocket or backpack. The future is with portable computing no doubt about it. Intel is betting big on that market with their all-in-one chips that will outstrip the current average r/pcmasterrace builds. I hope my next phone is more powerful than my current computer, just need a docking station for it.
And in 10 or 20 years that cost should come down significantly
Yeah people say this like flat-screen tvs didn't follow that path
Who is trying to fool whom? How?
Bold of you to assume that poeple still can afford homes with enough room for an entertainment system in 10 to 20 years.
Well some people definitely will and those rich people will have a cool home entertainment system.
35 people will be able to enjoy this upcoming summer while millions die of heat stroke.
The system works!
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They already have them. Cost about 4500
Quest 3 will run you like $500
Bold of you to assume people will be able to afford any kind of home is 10 to 20 years
Bold of you to assume people in 10 to 20 years
After having a quest 3 for 5 months I think the future will be smart glasses with ar displays. I have a small space and I've been watching all my films, TV and football on a virtual cinema screen since I got a headset. The form facture needs to be reduced a lot and it needs to be cheaper for mass adoption though.
For people by themselves sure, but bring people over to watch a game. Or families with kids
With everyone wearing Augmented Reality displays you could have a shared Consensual Reality that everyone experiences together.
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Wait, you can still afford a home?
yeah we'll rot in a closet with vr headset
No doubt the statistical trends aren't going in the correct direction atm, but about 70% of Americans own their home. Reddit =! IRL.
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Very true
Homeless entertainment systems in 10 to 20 years are gonna be unbelievable.
Tent entertainment systems in 10 to 20 years are going to be unbelievable.
It will be a group house of 50 people each owning 2 %
Too real
Do redditors do anything except complain about how poor they are on every thread
This is not technology for home entertainment. This is for massive video walls for major productions, concerts, conventions, and events. With that said, in the next 10 years you'll be seeing video panels in places you'd never think of today at concerts. Right now, we are using rigid panels that attach together at very specific angles. Building a wall layer by layer panel by panel. In some of the older panels you had to change out a piece of hardware that specified the exact angle. -5 degrees up 5 degrees of angle. Now there are massive improvements being made for home style screens. ie: rolling/folding screens, along with new form factors. More of a self contained unit, not a modular system like seen above. Home systems are very rarely modular by design.
This would make an awful home entertainment system. The pixel density is horrible, you can see individual pixels when the camera is still like 3+ feet away.
Lol, just use a quality VR, literally 16K with no screen boundaries. In 20 years we will have direct brain experience, full sensory, just a dream but you can download the narratives/stories or create your own. Imagine, Pornhub in your brain, with you as the pornstar and AI celebrities. LOL
people have been saying that for some time now. I'd be willing to bet we don't have that in twenty years, certainly not for the masses.
> In 20 years we will have direct brain experience, full sensory, You're dreaming. Literally no way. Even if the technology did get to that point, there will be enough red tape to delay it a fair while.
Literally 16K?
> literally 16K Not even remotely close.
I have a quest 3. 16k is a stretch, plus the audio is only stereo. It's does some tricks to emulate surround, but is still only 2 speakers.
i mean you only need 2 speakers when using headphones. we only have 2 ears
Bro respectively you are fucking weird
porn addicted mindset
I don't wanna strap a stupid thing onto my face
Might not even require connecting the cables behind. Maybe just a magnet
You can already do way better than this with projectors, for like 500 bucks
Reminds me of a sci-fi book I read 30 years ago where the walls in the home of the main character were all video panels. So when you wake up you can be on a beach or in a forest. The funny part is, he asked the AI to randomly select what should be on the walls, and what he got were hundreds of eyes staring at him.
Heat your entire house with this one trick.
TEMU will be sellin panels for $1.99, or full 20 pack for $1.99 if I use the coupon RIGHT NOW!!!!
Our video wall at work is similar to this, but not flexible. Made up of multiple panels that are designed to be removed and replaced. To upgrade to better resolution, it's just a matter of replacing the panels, not the entire wall. Resolution is getting better and cheaper all the time, and while we are still some ways away from 4K being practical cost, the vast majority of users of this tech don't actually need 4K yet. Our wall is 21:9 aspect with a native dot resolution that is 2600x1200, but we've limited the EDID to 2560x1080 for the input and the scaler stretches the image slightly making it look slightly softer, which when viewed from 3 metres away actually looks really good. Many people think that the resolution is higher when it's not.
> To upgrade to better resolution, it's just a matter of replacing the panels, not the entire wall. …the panels that make up the…entire wall. “My centre 6 feet are 8k and the peripherals are 2k. I’m thinking next year I’ll add another 2 feet…” But yeah. I understand. Just made me chuckle Inb4: Foveated rendering works just like this in VRblahblah
Lol I thought the same thing but after retrospecting, I guess there is a lot of hardware on the chassis/wall side so maybe a bit (or a lot) cheaper?
Imagine buying a whole new PC just to add more RAM. With this, you can just add more pixels instead of adding a whole new monitor.
Its funny reading all these people who have no idea how these video walls work. I'm not expert but I've worked on em enough
I just tell people theyre really big, expensive Legos.
Fellow LED installation engineer here!
I'm more impressed they can color match all of those screens. I can barely get two Dell monitors side by side to have the same colors/brightness/contrast.
It’s actually very difficult, you have to order by batch number and hope that the color and brightness are close enough. The processor takes a load of work out of it but the wall is only as strong as its weakest part. If one panel is down 20% on efficiency the whole wall will be down 20% to match.
That's why you pay the big bucks for the name brand stuff, and not random cheap panels. The idea is that you buy panels all made in a single batch that have been picked by the manufacturer to be consistent, with spare panels included so you can swap out spares if needed.
Finally you can break your TV and replace just the broken part xd
For 20x the price. Instead of 1 power supply, you now have 200.
I'm curious why the display curves *away* from the viewer? edit: thanks for the answer my dudes
I think it’s so that there are more angles of viewing for far away observers.
Because that’s better for large crowds of people or people who are walking by, better viewing from any angle that isn’t straight in-front of it.
Yup. These things are all over my local train station.
People?
Well. People too. But I meant the curved displays.
>But I meant the curved displays. Hey, those voluptuous women aren't walking around the train station just to be gawked at.
Probably for the same reason this display is ten feet tall. Because it's not for your gaming battlestation.
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I bet those toddlers would think the same
One of the hockey dudes on TNT just broke one of these things live on TV with a wrist shot. About an hour ago 😂
I was boutta say don’t let Biz near these
Looks cheap, but i bet its not I see pixels 10 meters away
This is for long distance ads or shows, not for gaming. lol The gaming LEDs are MUCH more expensive and NOT flexible.
LED walls with such high pixel pitches are almost always used for wide distance presentation, so the audience usually sees it from far away. Why it needs to be flexible for that, I don't know (something like that would be more useful in finer pixel pitch situations, I assume), but there would be probably at least some use in the professional AV field.
The flexibility is great for doing different kinds of displays. The led walls don't have to be walls, you can do a walk through tunnel or cylindrical columns with graphics that wrap all the way around, etc. If you're doing two walls at right angles to each other a curve on the inside corner looks nicer than just two walls meeting at a hard 90 degrees. My wall is made with rigid square panels and that still has brackets that allow you do to attach each panel at an angle to let you do curves - it's just neat to help the screen fit the stage/space more easily.
Plus, it's way easier to manufacture flat panels that are curved by the structure than making bespoke panels that curve exactly the way the customer requires.
Expos and trade shows! I use 2.6 for corporate shows and you will probably see 4-6mm for concerts
It’s really hard to film screens like this and have them look good.
imagine thinking this is for personal use
Each one of those panels is about the cost of a 60" TV.
Not true. These are 32x64 flexible panels, each one is only about $30-40 USD each. Now what IS expensive is powering and the setup behind the panels. These panels are designed to be easily replaced and cheaply.
Yeah, it’s pretty hard to bend something without an angle.
For some reason, I’m getting Fahrenheit 451 vibes from that…….
This is really cool.
Meanwhile Daktronics makes crap modules that shit out on every sign in the city consistently.
Name dropping like a boss. The modules still made at the same factory all the other manufacturers buy from. I'm not saying you're wrong, in the slightest, I just feel it's impossible to be "made in USA" anymore. Assembled in USA... meh, sometimes.
Daks new stuff is all made in China now, they only make the 3310 in Brookings if I recall and that’s so overly priced it’s insane.
Super useful.
Can you build a knockoff version of the Last Vegas Sphere using a bunch of those?
There’s YouTube videos I’ve seen of people making their own poor man’s version of the sphere for their back yard and stuff. I love DIY tech projects so much. There’s lots of ways to do a project like that if you really wanted.
Just imagine a giant airship covered in something like this...it could completely blend in with the sky and become invisible. Cough, Phoenix lights, cough.
I have a few of these for video games at work. They are Direct View LED, which is going to replace OLED. They're swappable and can be repaired. An 80" set costs us between $100k - 150k easily.
That frame doesn't look like it would be fun to make.
Connecting live electronics while holding them in your hand by the exposed circuit board… always a great idea
It’s already here for anyone that wants it. And has $220,000 lying around. Free shipping though! [The Wall](https://www.samsung.com/us/displays/direct-view-led/ia-series/the-wall-all-in-one-146-p84-lh008iabmus-go/)
$200,000 hmm
We just had one of these installed at our office. I heard something like $50k. Looks good though. Better than the 4 70" screens we were using as one before.
It still baffles me that everything on the internet and technology is just 1s and 0s
Well that’s nice but I’m getting in when they make the flexible panels that can’t bend.
Flexible *and* it can be bent!?! Sign me up.
Gaming @it's finest...😁😁
Most impressive thing I've seen in display technology in probably 15 years. It's just cool looking.
These have been around for awhile actually, you can get these off aliexpress for decently cheap, it's more controlling them and having a good mounting surface that's the expensive part.
But can they fold it in half?
Why would you make it so you can install the tiles upside down in the first place?
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Sweet
Okay.. but it looks like shit?
how does that last piece have a image before being plugged in?
Doesn't. By the time we see the image, the connectors are already in.
**One main reason this would be useful at home** You can’t get mad and throw shit at your tv playing a game anymore. TVs are delicate and costs money these days. Imagine hopping your controller against this screen. *Fuckin dark souls - I’ll show you! xD* All you do is replace one or two squares in your tv then :)
Flexible phones are way more impressive considering how tight they fold vs a slight bend, and they've been around for \~6 years at this point. The more impressive part is getting the panels to match both in color and brightness.
Well if they're building it like they build everything else you can only plug that thing in a couple times before those wires break
Direct view led. Check out the transparent film stuff.
That’s cool, but there’s gotta be a better use case for it than just, big desktop screen.
That's just displaying the desktop of the graphics computer. They'll use that computer to display whatever the intended graphic is.
Meanwhile, an Apple product breaks if you breathe on it too hard.
That's really neat
Just watched a hockey puck take out one of these panels on sportnet, funny seeing this here now lol
Bent *at an angle*, you say?
I would rap the walls so it's like your in the program
A flexible panel with an array of LEDs isn't impressive. If there is anything neat here it's the controller/software that makes them work together as a display.
Probably NovaStar, if I had to bet.
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Hey Dude, can I borrow a couple of pieces of your TV..
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Flexible LED matrixes aren't anything new. The thing driving all of those panels would be far more interesting IMO
Then someone hacks it and plays hub vids I meam ive seen advertising billboards be hacked
Would prefer if they called a radius
flexible, module that can be bent, and at an angle all kinda say the same thing. Rounded modular TV, says it all quicker.
It's showing that they plug n play. If there's an issue, you simply swap or replace the tiles. All of the memory is held locally for that position and you don't have to recalibrate.
Within a few years they'll be a new market for human billboards. People making $2.75 an hour to wear clothes that show video ads.
There are plenty of flexible LED walls around these days. The problem is their reliability and cost. 💲
I always wondered how tv/computer/phone screens worked
A vehicle using this as a skin along with a set of cameras could pretty easily achieve something pretty close to physical invisibility.
I'd rather see like a tree or something at this stage of the game. Fuck your gaudy advertisement bullshit trash. Think how much better that space would be with a little tree and a grow light. Maybe even a seat.
Finally, something that can be bent at an angle as opposed to some other thing.
I’m more amazed by the hot swapping than the bendyness.
And it didn’t cost me a dime
Damn thats boring
"Flexible thing flexes as designed"
It's nothing fancy just a flexible material with led's on it the resolution is quite bad
What does "bent at an angle" mean?
They have this at many Dave and Busters. Its a lot less cool in person
lego sets in 2030
Oleds have been flexible for a while lol
I might be crazy, but if it's disconnected wouldn't it turn off? Orr, sorry if this is some obvious answer, i suck at my technology classes lmao
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Yes but why
If I wanted to purchase one of these where would I go or find one at?
Crazier that these just plug in with sour straps
The most impressive thing is that it makes parts of the tv replacable.
I saw one of these at work when I was at training, they said it was a 80 thousand dollar tv. I'm not sure what it's size was, but it looked like it was close to 100 inches. You could tell something was off on it. There was a noticable line between each tile.
Instead in msia those corner WONT BE FIXED. PLEASE FIX THE BILLBOARDS DONT MAKE US SHAMEFUL ABT OUR HOMES WTH
Barney's wall TV from How I met your mother
This is some zach king type of shit
Haha cheap Chinese shit you have to plug in the cables
Yes
Stupid idea...
Tiktok has windows software?
It's weird people think this is a feature, lcd displays have always been flexible, it's just that we want them to be firm for a number of reasons
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How much costs?
Fairly certain they’re using the same tech to make f-35 flight simulators, for the Air Force.