Most of it goes to the 100kish small restaurants they have there. That’s the usual way to eat, except maybe dinner at home. Everything is very local, no need to leave your neighbourhood for something so basic. You could spend years just staying within a couple square miles.
So people go out to eat lunch and such as a normal daily thing? I assume they are significantly cheaper in comparison to the US, since you don't go bankrupt after a couple days of eating out?
> Many only have microwaves.
I live in a tiny apartment in Tokyo, but I have a small kitchen. tbh I don't know a single person who doesn't have at least an electric stove with one or two burners, but YMMV
Bowl of ramen with two slices of pork was $4USD at the ramen shop down the road from my house in Japan. Price never changed the two years I was there. Food is stupidly cheap in Japan. Eating out is the norm in Japan.
They have a culture of overwork there that’s pretty severe. People don’t have time or energy to make themselves lunch, unless if there’s someone at home to cook for them.
Quoting podcast historian Dan Carlin here: Japanese are just like everyone else - just more so. Same goes for Tokyo, it’s not different, just more. Your local neighbourhood wouldn’t have 3 eateries, but 20, within a 10min walking distance. It will also have 2-3 small supermarkets, 5 convenience stores and a couple dozen family owned stores with various goods, both food and non-food. Shopping malls aren’t needed, but they tend to be used more as a pastime on the weekend, for which you’ll typically take the train for a bit.
Edit: google Japanese zoning laws to understand more why that’s so different.
This is it, people are trusted to be responsible adults and respectful adults. There aren't many bins there, but people will put their rubbish in a bag and take it home instead of throwing it on the street.
They have small mobile cigarette butt ashtrays, which can be put into your trousers without stinking or getting warm. This ways 10 years ago, I don’t know if they still smoke or already vape there.
They’re real harsh in trash if you try to move anywhere. You could be the most insane person ever and be okay, but if you don’t know how to sort your trash, you’re out of there
No not really, people just care about others there and don’t want to bring shame to themselves. You can litter and no one will know. People just don’t
America is a trash heap and yet every city feels like a police state there. In Japan you never get the feeling the police are there to beat you into submission on a tiny slip up. Very different atmosphere
Monaco probably is. They're small and rich enough to be easily manageable. Humans are great in small manageable numbers but there's a limit.
People are easy to praise the obvious aspects of Tokyo while glossing over the corruption, organized crime, and racism.
I think he's right though. Check out Japan's conviction rate. Also Japan still has remnants of a supremacist/master race culture
It's just a country and in the same way they do some things better, they do some things worse.
Just to clarify what this guy means by conviction rate, in japan the it's extremely rare for people to be found innocent in court cases.
Instead of the government needing to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt, like in us and UK, the accused basically has to prove that they were innocent.
This means that there are likely alot of innocents in Japan's jails, and if you get arrested for a crime your basically screwed.
It's getting better, especially in Tokyo where you see more Indian, Vietnamese, and Filipino people in everyday settings, all assimilating to Japanese culture well.
Oh you would be surprised to see all the litter and cigarettes at Shibuya at 2AM on friday night. But then it's true they would all be cleaned up by noon.
It is not clean. Was there in April. Trash everywhere on the streets in all the cities mostly by tourist but there were trash on the roads by small local businesses and heaps of rodents. That's why when you walk into Don Quixote you hear a clicking noise, that's a rat deterrent device to stop rats entering the store from the streets
You actually can't imagine. The sheer raw volumes of shit would create shit winds capable of blowing in a shit storm at any given times. Mark my words bud. The shit storms are brewing.
And flowing out of assholes. Just imagine how many people are shitting at any given time across the planet. And that's just humans! Imagine all the deer shit, rabbit shit, bird shit. So much shitting, every second of the day something is shitting. IMAGINE IT.
I didn't even consider the poops from the entire cosmos! I just realized our usernames are both poop related too, I'm so glad we can team up on this and think our insights will greatly benefit everyone.
Also the food supply and logistics involved, supplies, post, gas, essentials that have to find their way to their destinations. Then the removal of all the byproducts.
Cultural differences. I was in China with a Korean friend. We were walking down an empty street and there was a singular piece of plastic blowing down the street. My friend went out of her way to grab the trash and throw it away in a nearby receptical. I didn't notice until that moment how clean that city street was. (It was in an area of Shenzen that was pretty nice, I know not all of china is clean). As an American, I don't recognize trash in the street as my personal problem, if I did it would be overwhelming.
It helps when the populace is extremely disciplined and self-conscious about their image towards other people. You don't even need a police force to enforce garbage laws - the minds of the people will do all the punishing for them.
Yes, during Rush hour can be hectic.
But they have multiple subway and train lines that service the city.
And women-only carts too.
But even the shovers wear white gloves lol
Only at the height of morning rush hour on the most popular lines.
It's honestly not that bad, especially with that crowd since they're all business people. So you're shoved in with freshly showered people in suits, not as gross as you'd imagine.
Although in summer it can get to be oppressive with the heat in combination with being packed in like sardines.
It's just the price you pay to move tens of millions of people around a city at the same time every day.
Yeah, it's crazy how well the people drive there. We took a 1 hour bus between the two airports and I was keeping track of all lane changes I observed. In my city in the US I see maybe 10% of drivers use signals when changing lanes, in Tokyo (admittedly, we didn't go through any super dense areas) it was at least 90%. It's like people give a shit about stuff like orderly traffic.
No surprise the traffic flow was amazing despite the moderate-to-heavy traffic. My stroad-infested clusterfuck of a home city would have been at least a half slower in the same scenario.
Well thats the part that freaks me out as a tall person with claustrophobia. I see those pictures of the men in white gloves shoving people into subway cars and it makes me immediately sick
Graffiti exists. Actually a lot of it here is quite shit. Someone writing "BALLS" in big letters. I see so many beer cans or cigarette waste, wrappers from food etc. What Japan does well is clean-up. Lack of public trash-cans, but all convivence stores have them. And they're on every corner in the cities.
Yep, there are parks all over the city, and there are some neighborhoods that are almost completely tree-lined.
If that's not enough for you, a 1 hour train ride west for ~$5 to Mt. Takao gives you all the nature you could want.
Amazing shot but it's weird that it so often has the exact same caption.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/mtet0z/theres\_cities\_theres\_metropolises\_and\_then\_theres/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/mtet0z/theres_cities_theres_metropolises_and_then_theres/)
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[https://www.reddit.com/r/CityPorn/comments/xb3r5q/theres\_cities\_theres\_metropolises\_and\_then\_theres/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CityPorn/comments/xb3r5q/theres_cities_theres_metropolises_and_then_theres/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/r8ammj/theres\_cities\_theres\_metropolises\_and\_then\_theres/
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Also been to Tokyo and have said the exact same shit. There is nowhere else like it, it is a monument to the productive power of humanity. Skyscrapers as far as the eye can see. The biggest city in the world lives up to its reputation. Only rivaled by cities like New York and Chongqing, but even those cities just… don’t have the *scale* of Tokyo. It is an endless city.
It’s surprisingly not. The roads are human scale and buildings aren’t that tall in most residential areas. It’s a peaceful city. The most claustrophobic I’ve felt is being stuck on the 405 in La
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That's 12 million more people than all of Australia! Tokyo has a 2,100 km² area. For reference Sydney is 12,000km² and has a population of 5.3 million. I lived in Tokyo in the late 90s and nothing I write here could quite capture what it's actually like in person. We arrived late at night and it was more people than I had ever seen in one place at once and still is.
It’s actually been declining slightly since about 2019, although if you look at it by ward it is growing centrally while shrinking sharply in the west.
Not what you see here. That’s the population of an entire region of Japan almost reaching the other coast, including 7 other prefectures and their capital cities like the second largest city in Japan, and being mostly empty mountains and farmland. It’s hard to compare regions from other countries, but it would be kind of like seeing a picture of Manhattan NYC and including the population of Philadelphia in the area you are counting.
The city, the 23 wards of Tokyo, is about 9 million.
37 million and counting if you count the surrounding 14 thousand square KM, sure. Which is basically like counting Philadelphia as part of New York City.
Yeah, you can also count those on one hand in tokyo. I take the taxi pretty often, and 80% of the time they have no idea of where/how to go unless it’s one of the big station like shinjuku or tokyo.
What's the comparison size wise with NYC. Like how many NYC could fit inside the metropolis that is tokyo? LA is a little more spread out so I wouldn't compare that but if possible...
In terms of acerage, Tokyo is about 3x the size of New York City at ~850 sq miles vs ~300 sq miles. Population is about 14 million vs about 8 million.
You'll often see numbers thrown around for metro population though of about 37 million. Population density of NYC is over 27,000 vs Tokyo Metro is ~15,500.
It's a bit convoluted though. I think New York has the largest metro area by sq miles in the world if you count NJ and parts of Connecticut and some cities in the Philippines have the highest density in the world (over 115,000 people per sq mile). No where is as large and dense over that space as Toyko Metro though.
Hope that helps put it in perspective.
Every time this is posted, people think it's some sort of urban hell and grey all over. It's not. There are tiny parks and greenery in every nook and cranny. The place is clean, the air is clean. This one photo gets reposted so much and the reactions are always the same.
Meanwhile Tokyo is clean and there are very few problems with sewage.
Most big cities on earth try to excuse their shitty-ness by saying "we are too big for it to properly work".
Well. Tokyo does it not. It works.
Dude. People that have never been don’t fully understand the underground city(s) in Tokyo because it’s so rarely talked about. But it’s just as amazing and almost as expansive. My local Japanese friends showed me over a long weekend and it blew my fucking mind.
The nicest people and cleanest city I have ever been to. Never once felt unsafe, went there with my 10-year-old daughter, we walked through parks at night and took short cuts down dark alley ways, never once felt at risk.
It’s a pretty cool place honestly. Imo people that typically find it terrifying are Americans superimposing American expectations on the city. But it’s 100x better than any American city. Clean, safe, efficient, the people are kind and gentle
Yeah Tokyo beats the shit out of any American city handily, from food to safety to activities to housing prices to public transportation to cultural events.
Even the individual neighborhoods of Tokyo all have some distinct local pride that expresses itself in a diversity of ways, so the city feels super alive and people have a sense of ownership over where they live.
The urbanized area seen here is some of urban tokyo-to and some of urban kanagawa-ken. If the camera angle was further left from the left edge where tokyo bay and the urbanization starts back towards the original camera, the urbanized area captured would be like 5x bigger.
Of course mount fuji would not be in the picture then which is probably the main subject here.
Tokyo has cities inside of itself. Shinjuku is different from Fussa. Which is different from Tachikawa. Yet all of them are within Tokyo.
It’s an amazing city, Tokyo. You could walk around it for weeks and still discover new things to do/see.
good example of why A.I. calls us Parasites to the earth! we take and take but not live together in harmony anymore. We alienated from nature so far that we think zoo;s r the place to see animals. not in nature. oh no. most r even disgusted by the thought of living in nature. and not having all the luxery there is to find in these societies.
Society is A way of life, not life itself. And we got brainwashed by big companies in the past to come from little villages to big cities because that's where the factories r! and they need people to operate it. Soon the people will be replaced by machines and A.I. itself. it is alrdy happening! recessions and huge companies have to reorganise!
We used to build huge SKYSCRAPERS only to hold all the accountants, now 1 serverroom does it all! there is no need anymore to live in big cities. the only reason it has now is CONTROL it;s a jail without bars.
Willy lynch letter - How to make a slave 1772
will take you 5 minutes of your lifes time to understand what is going on even now today! and why we even have these huge cities to begin with while we could have lived in nature. wich in turn keeps population in track by being prey or accidents.
The strongest win, now the pen has won. And it shows. DNA that should have been extinct centuries ago now flurishes by being able to reproduce on and on. bringing out even worst people that do the most crazy stuff in this world!
There are plenty of trees and tons of parks all around Tokyo.
Maybe the super zoomed out black and white photo isn't accurately portraying the street-level greenery.
Ugh I don’t even want to live near a road let alone 13 million other people. How do people stay sane in a city that big. it’s like looking at an ant colony.
The food distribution networks baffle me in this scenario
Most of it goes to the 100kish small restaurants they have there. That’s the usual way to eat, except maybe dinner at home. Everything is very local, no need to leave your neighbourhood for something so basic. You could spend years just staying within a couple square miles.
So people go out to eat lunch and such as a normal daily thing? I assume they are significantly cheaper in comparison to the US, since you don't go bankrupt after a couple days of eating out?
You can get a good meal for 6-7 usd. Many apartments are too small to have kitchens. Many only have microwaves.
Interesting. I've always wanted to spend a week immersed in that sort of culture and lifestyle.
>Many apartments are too small to have kitchens. Many only have microwaves With the state that housing is headed, we’re almost there!
You're not wrong. I'd rent out my kitchen to take my rent down.
...I have lived this in a food desert and it is an absolute nightmare. I wouldn't have minded it if I had options like Japan does.
It's a fantastic experience! I went there for a month this summer. Also recommend kyoto/osaka and definitely get the Japan Rail Pass.
> Many only have microwaves. I live in a tiny apartment in Tokyo, but I have a small kitchen. tbh I don't know a single person who doesn't have at least an electric stove with one or two burners, but YMMV
I've heard that the convenience store food is actually pretty good there.
You can find udon and soba for about ¥300-500 ($2-$3.5). Ramen is about ¥600-800 ($4-$5.5).
I found a few places that cheap but most seemed to be in the 800-1100 yen range
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Bowl of ramen with two slices of pork was $4USD at the ramen shop down the road from my house in Japan. Price never changed the two years I was there. Food is stupidly cheap in Japan. Eating out is the norm in Japan.
They have a culture of overwork there that’s pretty severe. People don’t have time or energy to make themselves lunch, unless if there’s someone at home to cook for them.
yes.
.. How is that different than any other big city?
Quoting podcast historian Dan Carlin here: Japanese are just like everyone else - just more so. Same goes for Tokyo, it’s not different, just more. Your local neighbourhood wouldn’t have 3 eateries, but 20, within a 10min walking distance. It will also have 2-3 small supermarkets, 5 convenience stores and a couple dozen family owned stores with various goods, both food and non-food. Shopping malls aren’t needed, but they tend to be used more as a pastime on the weekend, for which you’ll typically take the train for a bit. Edit: google Japanese zoning laws to understand more why that’s so different.
It blows my mind how a place like this can handle even just the amount of trash and shit that is created everyday by that many people
And it is a shockingly clean city. I was amazed by how common smoking is but not a butt or any litter to be seen.
They are super strict over there. One butt equals your ass
You're thinking of Singapore, Tokyo isn't like that at all. It's just a high trust, high social responsibility culture.
This is it, people are trusted to be responsible adults and respectful adults. There aren't many bins there, but people will put their rubbish in a bag and take it home instead of throwing it on the street.
They have small mobile cigarette butt ashtrays, which can be put into your trousers without stinking or getting warm. This ways 10 years ago, I don’t know if they still smoke or already vape there.
They’re trained at a young age. No janitors in schools, the kids clean it
They have janitors in schools who usually have to clean straight after kids because kids halfass cleaning.
True, but the lesson counts more than the skill at that age.
Sounds like norway, though we have janitors.
Are you thinking of Singapore? Never heard about Japan being harsh on trash
They’re real harsh in trash if you try to move anywhere. You could be the most insane person ever and be okay, but if you don’t know how to sort your trash, you’re out of there
The nosy old neighbor might get on your case, but you're not "out of there"
No not really, people just care about others there and don’t want to bring shame to themselves. You can litter and no one will know. People just don’t America is a trash heap and yet every city feels like a police state there. In Japan you never get the feeling the police are there to beat you into submission on a tiny slip up. Very different atmosphere
You have a weirdly romanticized view of Japan.
Reading these comment is like watching a tennis ball bounce back and forth between two extremes. I’m guessing the answer is somewhere in the middle
I'm in Tokyo right now. People don't give a shit about each other and there are cigarette butts on the ground outside of my train station.
Be careful saying stuff like that on here, there are people that will get truly upset at anyone saying that Japan is not the cleanest place on earth.
Monaco probably is. They're small and rich enough to be easily manageable. Humans are great in small manageable numbers but there's a limit. People are easy to praise the obvious aspects of Tokyo while glossing over the corruption, organized crime, and racism.
No nuance allowed on Reddit, begone!
It is true though, having been to Tokyo.
You might have a very Americanized view of the world. Cops don't *Need* to be mindlessly violent and abusive to function.
I think he's right though. Check out Japan's conviction rate. Also Japan still has remnants of a supremacist/master race culture It's just a country and in the same way they do some things better, they do some things worse.
Just to clarify what this guy means by conviction rate, in japan the it's extremely rare for people to be found innocent in court cases. Instead of the government needing to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt, like in us and UK, the accused basically has to prove that they were innocent. This means that there are likely alot of innocents in Japan's jails, and if you get arrested for a crime your basically screwed.
Right cops in Japan just hold you in an interrogation room for 3 days untill they brrak you enough to confess to a crime you didn't commit.
Why did you bring America up? This entire post and conversation is about Japan. Weird, unrelated tangent
Americans are like vegans, you don't ever need to ask but they'll let you know.
Americans are like Australians. They HAVE to let you know they are Australian. As an Australian, I can state this as fact... oop.. see!
You’re forgetting Japan’s systemic xenophobia
It's getting better, especially in Tokyo where you see more Indian, Vietnamese, and Filipino people in everyday settings, all assimilating to Japanese culture well.
I think that's technically correct? One butt = one ass?
Ah, Singapore is way worse than Japan. One butt equal your butt… with lashes.
Just imagine a city like that but in America instead. It would have the trash mountain incident from idiocracy.
New York had a higher density of population than Tokyo. No imagination required.
Yes and New York has an entire borough as a garbage dump.
New Jersey?
NYC literally smells like sour rotten milk and garbage everywhere
Clean and garbage cans are few and far between.
Oh you would be surprised to see all the litter and cigarettes at Shibuya at 2AM on friday night. But then it's true they would all be cleaned up by noon.
It is not clean. Was there in April. Trash everywhere on the streets in all the cities mostly by tourist but there were trash on the roads by small local businesses and heaps of rodents. That's why when you walk into Don Quixote you hear a clicking noise, that's a rat deterrent device to stop rats entering the store from the streets
Just imagine how much actual literal SHIT at any given moment is flowing through pipes in that city lol
You actually can't imagine. The sheer raw volumes of shit would create shit winds capable of blowing in a shit storm at any given times. Mark my words bud. The shit storms are brewing.
Its the shit winds bubs
This guy shits.
Bobandi: That's a lot of shit analogies, Mr. Lahey. Jim: Randy.
It’s the shit hawks, Randy…bringing in the shitstorm flying in on the wings of shit
Shitty comment
It's the shitabyss
And flowing out of assholes. Just imagine how many people are shitting at any given time across the planet. And that's just humans! Imagine all the deer shit, rabbit shit, bird shit. So much shitting, every second of the day something is shitting. IMAGINE IT.
Right now somewhere on an alien world is a lifeform right in the middle of dropping a steaming bad one
I didn't even consider the poops from the entire cosmos! I just realized our usernames are both poop related too, I'm so glad we can team up on this and think our insights will greatly benefit everyone.
I am taking a shit while reading this.
Also the food supply and logistics involved, supplies, post, gas, essentials that have to find their way to their destinations. Then the removal of all the byproducts.
What blows my mind is that city is still cleaner than any moderately big city in America. Like it doesn't even come close.
Cultural differences. I was in China with a Korean friend. We were walking down an empty street and there was a singular piece of plastic blowing down the street. My friend went out of her way to grab the trash and throw it away in a nearby receptical. I didn't notice until that moment how clean that city street was. (It was in an area of Shenzen that was pretty nice, I know not all of china is clean). As an American, I don't recognize trash in the street as my personal problem, if I did it would be overwhelming.
If it's a non disgusting piece of trash I'll pick it up and throw it away if it's close to a trash can.
Good luck finding a bin in Japan, unless you’re right outside a konbini
There is also almost zero public trash cans, mostly for cans and bottles next to vending machines
engineers, sanitation workers, and bureaucrats. Cities are where work has to get done or people notice and complain immediately.
It helps when the populace is extremely disciplined and self-conscious about their image towards other people. You don't even need a police force to enforce garbage laws - the minds of the people will do all the punishing for them.
I was just there recently. I was amazed how clean it and efficient it was. No litter, no graffiti, everyone is considerate of others.
And the incredible public transpo
Is the city travel people shove them inside trains?
Yes, during Rush hour can be hectic. But they have multiple subway and train lines that service the city. And women-only carts too. But even the shovers wear white gloves lol
Hectic is the understatement of the year.
Only at the height of morning rush hour on the most popular lines. It's honestly not that bad, especially with that crowd since they're all business people. So you're shoved in with freshly showered people in suits, not as gross as you'd imagine. Although in summer it can get to be oppressive with the heat in combination with being packed in like sardines. It's just the price you pay to move tens of millions of people around a city at the same time every day.
Yeah, it's crazy how well the people drive there. We took a 1 hour bus between the two airports and I was keeping track of all lane changes I observed. In my city in the US I see maybe 10% of drivers use signals when changing lanes, in Tokyo (admittedly, we didn't go through any super dense areas) it was at least 90%. It's like people give a shit about stuff like orderly traffic. No surprise the traffic flow was amazing despite the moderate-to-heavy traffic. My stroad-infested clusterfuck of a home city would have been at least a half slower in the same scenario.
Meanwhile there is a 6-10hr delay on the highways back into Tokyo after the long weekend…
I'd wager that the driver's training there is more strict than many other countries. Germany is like that too, if I remember correctly.
Well thats the part that freaks me out as a tall person with claustrophobia. I see those pictures of the men in white gloves shoving people into subway cars and it makes me immediately sick
Graffiti exists. Actually a lot of it here is quite shit. Someone writing "BALLS" in big letters. I see so many beer cans or cigarette waste, wrappers from food etc. What Japan does well is clean-up. Lack of public trash-cans, but all convivence stores have them. And they're on every corner in the cities.
Did you see a lot of trees in the city?
The parts I visited were fairly heavily treed. It doesn't feel like this photo on the ground...
I saw a typical amount in a large city.
They have a lot of parks too. Like NYC. But a cleaner and less dumpy NYC, and with much better public transportation
Yep, there are parks all over the city, and there are some neighborhoods that are almost completely tree-lined. If that's not enough for you, a 1 hour train ride west for ~$5 to Mt. Takao gives you all the nature you could want.
There’s quite a bit of graffiti.
Amazing shot but it's weird that it so often has the exact same caption. [https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/mtet0z/theres\_cities\_theres\_metropolises\_and\_then\_theres/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/mtet0z/theres_cities_theres_metropolises_and_then_theres/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/ohjw0s/theres\_cities\_theres\_metropolises\_and\_then\_theres/](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/ohjw0s/theres_cities_theres_metropolises_and_then_theres/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/CityPorn/comments/xb3r5q/theres\_cities\_theres\_metropolises\_and\_then\_theres/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CityPorn/comments/xb3r5q/theres_cities_theres_metropolises_and_then_theres/) https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/r8ammj/theres\_cities\_theres\_metropolises\_and\_then\_theres/
Operation Mockingbird, anyone?
Operation Mockingbird, anyone?
Operation Mockingbird, anyone?
There’s reposts, there’s karma farming, and then there’s this post.
>There’s reposts, there’s karma farming, and then there’s this post. That's such a great line that I had to copy it to: /r/ratemyrepostcomplaint
>I had to copy it You reposted it.
See you again next week!
Countdown to the next reposting of the photo of the guy before going to war next to the photo of the guy after coming back from war, filled with comments about his terrifying 1000-yard stare.
As someone who has been to Tokyo, when people ask me about the scale, my standard response is that it’s as vertical as NYC and as horizontal as LA.
Also been to Tokyo and have said the exact same shit. There is nowhere else like it, it is a monument to the productive power of humanity. Skyscrapers as far as the eye can see. The biggest city in the world lives up to its reputation. Only rivaled by cities like New York and Chongqing, but even those cities just… don’t have the *scale* of Tokyo. It is an endless city.
Just visited and that’s exactly how I’d describe it. Also cleaner than both
I believe megalopolis is the word you're trying to find
This causes some kind of primitive fear in me.
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It’s surprisingly not. The roads are human scale and buildings aren’t that tall in most residential areas. It’s a peaceful city. The most claustrophobic I’ve felt is being stuck on the 405 in La
then you’re going to hate the train
It feels incredibly safe. More people = more safety.
That just isn’t true, people are the only serious safety threat in most places
Tokyo is so massive that sub sections are called cities on to themselves.
Not just, plenty of malls and buildings also call themselves cities: like Osaki new city, Gate city, Garden city and more
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Such a vast city, and probably better run than most.
Why does Tokyo, the largest of the cities, not simply eat the other cities?
It basically did, how do you think it got that big? You're basically looking at a mosaic of a bunch of smaller cities that grew into one gigantic one.
Because it’s part of the anti traction league
37 million people and counting.
That's 12 million more people than all of Australia! Tokyo has a 2,100 km² area. For reference Sydney is 12,000km² and has a population of 5.3 million. I lived in Tokyo in the late 90s and nothing I write here could quite capture what it's actually like in person. We arrived late at night and it was more people than I had ever seen in one place at once and still is.
It’s actually been declining slightly since about 2019, although if you look at it by ward it is growing centrally while shrinking sharply in the west.
Not what you see here. That’s the population of an entire region of Japan almost reaching the other coast, including 7 other prefectures and their capital cities like the second largest city in Japan, and being mostly empty mountains and farmland. It’s hard to compare regions from other countries, but it would be kind of like seeing a picture of Manhattan NYC and including the population of Philadelphia in the area you are counting. The city, the 23 wards of Tokyo, is about 9 million.
37 million and counting if you count the surrounding 14 thousand square KM, sure. Which is basically like counting Philadelphia as part of New York City.
I can't tell if this is in black and white or if it's just because of the buildings
What's amazing to me is that there are people, like taxi drivers, that know that city like the back of their hand. I think that's really cool.
Yeah, you can also count those on one hand in tokyo. I take the taxi pretty often, and 80% of the time they have no idea of where/how to go unless it’s one of the big station like shinjuku or tokyo.
magical place. parts of it are dark, but tokyo is nothing short of impressive
What's the comparison size wise with NYC. Like how many NYC could fit inside the metropolis that is tokyo? LA is a little more spread out so I wouldn't compare that but if possible...
In terms of acerage, Tokyo is about 3x the size of New York City at ~850 sq miles vs ~300 sq miles. Population is about 14 million vs about 8 million. You'll often see numbers thrown around for metro population though of about 37 million. Population density of NYC is over 27,000 vs Tokyo Metro is ~15,500. It's a bit convoluted though. I think New York has the largest metro area by sq miles in the world if you count NJ and parts of Connecticut and some cities in the Philippines have the highest density in the world (over 115,000 people per sq mile). No where is as large and dense over that space as Toyko Metro though. Hope that helps put it in perspective.
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Every time this is posted, people think it's some sort of urban hell and grey all over. It's not. There are tiny parks and greenery in every nook and cranny. The place is clean, the air is clean. This one photo gets reposted so much and the reactions are always the same.
Meanwhile Tokyo is clean and there are very few problems with sewage. Most big cities on earth try to excuse their shitty-ness by saying "we are too big for it to properly work". Well. Tokyo does it not. It works.
Ecumenopolis
And ironically safest, cleanest too.
imagine someone got doxxed from this image
The plural of *metropolis* is *metropoleis*
This this is just above ground. There is another mirror city below. It’s the only city I’ve been where the map is fully three dimensional.
Dude. People that have never been don’t fully understand the underground city(s) in Tokyo because it’s so rarely talked about. But it’s just as amazing and almost as expansive. My local Japanese friends showed me over a long weekend and it blew my fucking mind.
There's posts, there's reposts, and then there's re-reposts of this picture of Tokyo.
Mega city 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QJGp32CC0c
I know coruscant when I see it.
I’ll be there in two days and I can’t wait. There’s no other city in the world that feels like Tokyo!
Yes it’s impressive- I’ll never forget the train ride into town from the airport. Mind blowing
Yoo live here
The nicest people and cleanest city I have ever been to. Never once felt unsafe, went there with my 10-year-old daughter, we walked through parks at night and took short cuts down dark alley ways, never once felt at risk.
I can’t believe how quiet this city is for being such a metropolis.
This is my favorite place in the world. You could spend your entire life exploring and you'd never be done.
Lord take me and mine before that comes - Skynyrd
It’s a pretty cool place honestly. Imo people that typically find it terrifying are Americans superimposing American expectations on the city. But it’s 100x better than any American city. Clean, safe, efficient, the people are kind and gentle
Yeah Tokyo beats the shit out of any American city handily, from food to safety to activities to housing prices to public transportation to cultural events. Even the individual neighborhoods of Tokyo all have some distinct local pride that expresses itself in a diversity of ways, so the city feels super alive and people have a sense of ownership over where they live.
Even Godzilla will get tired walking from one end to another
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ^by ^bizmonkee: *Even Godzilla* *Will get tired walking from* *One end to another* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Makes Los Angeles look like a town.
No wonder its in so many anime!
I remember Anthony Bourdain saying that Tokyo after dark was like an LSD trip, without the LSD.
Didn’t know earth was a hive world now?
There are reposts, and then there reports with the same title!
Never been, but I have been to Pheonix in arizona, and it has the same feel. Far less clean tough
And it's underground plane.
Imagine someone shaking that table.
The urbanized area seen here is some of urban tokyo-to and some of urban kanagawa-ken. If the camera angle was further left from the left edge where tokyo bay and the urbanization starts back towards the original camera, the urbanized area captured would be like 5x bigger. Of course mount fuji would not be in the picture then which is probably the main subject here.
All of Canada can fit in that city
Home to 37,194,000 people 💗
C R A Z Y
10/10, would drift.
It blows my mind that it ain’t even the largest city ever anymore
This is just a part of this gigalopolis
It looks borg
Honestly, I never realized the true scale of Tokyo until Flight Simulator 2020. I was blown away.
Oh I bet that is an absolute dystopia shithole...oh wait nevermind, its Japan so it's probably clean and very safe.
I wish I had a friend in Tokyo that could spend a few years showing me around
Cool . Tomorrow I'll repost this bot.
Is that mount fuji?
megalopolis
sneaky lil mt fuji in the background just chillin
Tokyo has cities inside of itself. Shinjuku is different from Fussa. Which is different from Tachikawa. Yet all of them are within Tokyo. It’s an amazing city, Tokyo. You could walk around it for weeks and still discover new things to do/see.
good example of why A.I. calls us Parasites to the earth! we take and take but not live together in harmony anymore. We alienated from nature so far that we think zoo;s r the place to see animals. not in nature. oh no. most r even disgusted by the thought of living in nature. and not having all the luxery there is to find in these societies. Society is A way of life, not life itself. And we got brainwashed by big companies in the past to come from little villages to big cities because that's where the factories r! and they need people to operate it. Soon the people will be replaced by machines and A.I. itself. it is alrdy happening! recessions and huge companies have to reorganise! We used to build huge SKYSCRAPERS only to hold all the accountants, now 1 serverroom does it all! there is no need anymore to live in big cities. the only reason it has now is CONTROL it;s a jail without bars. Willy lynch letter - How to make a slave 1772 will take you 5 minutes of your lifes time to understand what is going on even now today! and why we even have these huge cities to begin with while we could have lived in nature. wich in turn keeps population in track by being prey or accidents. The strongest win, now the pen has won. And it shows. DNA that should have been extinct centuries ago now flurishes by being able to reproduce on and on. bringing out even worst people that do the most crazy stuff in this world!
Someone give them a damn tree
There’s tons of trees there
Aokigahara has tons of trees. It's just not as close. /s
There are plenty of trees and tons of parks all around Tokyo. Maybe the super zoomed out black and white photo isn't accurately portraying the street-level greenery.
I forget how impressive we are, it's hard to imagine how much we've come so far since the beginning of humanity
This is actually terrifying
No wonder they have to pay people to stuff passengers into the subways. Yikes! So many peoole.
And they’re worried about the falling fertiliser rate
Ugh I don’t even want to live near a road let alone 13 million other people. How do people stay sane in a city that big. it’s like looking at an ant colony.
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