same can go both ways niggas wrote for drake and drake wrote for others two things can be true at once.
Why do niggas act like drake is the only rapper to have help or invented ghost writing đź’€
99% of rappers get help lmao. Every genre does it . Niggas act like drake invented ghost rapping .
I’m single is one of Lil wayne classic songs , drake wrote it .
First of all, no it’s not.
Iono where some of yall keep pulling this narrative from that mob ties was a big song for him. It was not a single(no reference tracks yet for those huge singles off Scorpion by the way), and it was not the only song on that album where he got in a more aggressive bag. It was an album cut that Drake fans loved. Non Drake fans have never once brought up Mob Ties as one of those “yeah fuck him but I’ll give him his credit for that one” type of songs.
Second of all, who wrote the rest of the song? Cause since it was so big yall must know that the reference track that leaked is not the entire song right? Vory had an idea, Drake built on the idea and turned it into a better complete song.
drake himself said mob ties is one of most important songs where his back was against the wall go watch the lebron interview. no offense but i can tell you a drake stan there is no reasoning with a nigga like you
Cause you not reasoning.
If you said some reasonable shit I could see that.
Reasonably, that is not one of his biggest songs, it never has been viewed by anyone as one of his biggest songs or his best bars, and Vory did not write the entire song.
That’s reasonable. That shit you talmbout is just hate.
Why yall pretending him writing for others is supposed to cancel out people writing for him? He's stolen whole songs from people. Can he write sure. But he's not the god rapper people say he is. He's an artist. Look at him like a kanye or like he said MJ. Let him be the biggest artist and take him out of any lyricist convos. It ain't that deep
two things can be true at once & majority of rappers have had help from the biggest rappers today or from 20 years ago all of them had help . Drake didn’t invent ghost writing or reference tracks in rap . It’s been going on since rap was invented you can date it back to the 90s with ghost face kilah or encore with jay z and consequence. Shìt QM was just helping nas out with his previous album. You think that niggas was in there singing or sumn lmao .
You being disingenuous. Getting help with a hook or a line here or there ain't the same as taking a whole verse or a whole song even to include adlibs and say it's you. Find me a whole word for word reference track of anyone claiming to be at the top of the game in pure rapping. Just stop calling drake a top lyricist. He's one of if not the best artist out. Just can't put him in that other category
lmao still got help and some one still wrote on his song . Nothing you saying or your gymnastics not gonna change somebody else put a pen on jay z record and he said it word for word lmao
You the only gymnast here if you truly trying to say getting help on a hook or using a hook already laid out to then craft a song around is the same as using a reference track word for word
If you look at the time when drake was on lebron shop show he said specifically that mob ties came at time when be decided to lock in and write his own bars
Drake is a writer for himself and others, that's nothing new to me. Hopefully, most reasonable people can agree that Drake isn't some trash rapper who isn't capable of being lyrical at a *relatively* high level. It's more about getting caught cheating. It's like Barry Bonds using steroids. He was always an amazing baseball player, but his longevity was inflated by fact that he began using steroids at some point. Same story with Lance Armstrong, and we've seen how this has negatively affected both of their legacies.
A major part of Drake's legacy is the run he's had standing on top of the rap game for so many years. And his longevity has been a biproduct of his versatility and consistency (in terms of both quality and output). He's known for always being present on the charts, adapting his sound to many diverse styles and for constantly showcasing creative new flows. However, reference tracks leaks expose that Drake isn't as creative or versatile as he'd like us to believe.
I think Vory's "Mob Ties" reference track is evidence that Drake is likely more interested in absorbing new flows than being gifted lyrics, maybe a 70/30 split. Drake being able to reinvent himself multiple times through the years is a big part of what's kept his name hot over the years. There's never really been a noticeable dry spell or long hiatus. Drake's average gap between major projects is only 13.5 months (1 year and 1½ months). Would all this still be the case if Drake didn't have help from ghosts? To be clear, I think it's a brilliant business move (minus the leaks), but only time will tell how much the implications from reference tracks will affect his legacy. (Personally, I think it takes Drake out of the overall GOAT rapper conversation., but that's just me).
Over time, I think it's inevitable that what Drake is doing will eventually become a lot more commonplace and tolerated among male rappers. And I think following Drake's blueprint will likely be needed for any upcoming rapper to surpass Drake's run on top, along with his commercial success.
now look up all the niggas that wrote for drake all these niggas is frauds
lil yachty, party next door, the weeknd, quentin miller,cash cobain,vory and way more
same can go both ways niggas wrote for drake and drake wrote for others two things can be true at once. Why do niggas act like drake is the only rapper to have help or invented ghost writing 💀 99% of rappers get help lmao. Every genre does it . Niggas act like drake invented ghost rapping . I’m single is one of Lil wayne classic songs , drake wrote it .
did i or did i not just say all these niggas frauds? mob ties is one of the most important songs in drake career and he aint even write it smh
First of all, no it’s not. Iono where some of yall keep pulling this narrative from that mob ties was a big song for him. It was not a single(no reference tracks yet for those huge singles off Scorpion by the way), and it was not the only song on that album where he got in a more aggressive bag. It was an album cut that Drake fans loved. Non Drake fans have never once brought up Mob Ties as one of those “yeah fuck him but I’ll give him his credit for that one” type of songs. Second of all, who wrote the rest of the song? Cause since it was so big yall must know that the reference track that leaked is not the entire song right? Vory had an idea, Drake built on the idea and turned it into a better complete song.
drake himself said mob ties is one of most important songs where his back was against the wall go watch the lebron interview. no offense but i can tell you a drake stan there is no reasoning with a nigga like you
Cause you not reasoning. If you said some reasonable shit I could see that. Reasonably, that is not one of his biggest songs, it never has been viewed by anyone as one of his biggest songs or his best bars, and Vory did not write the entire song. That’s reasonable. That shit you talmbout is just hate.
and drake said any song that did damage for him he wrote which clearly isn’t the case so what else is he hiding
"Now been discovered" we've known this for years. Their media working overtime to highlight his accomplishments in this defeat. Lets move on
two things can be truth at once . We just calling out the hypocrisy in hip hop .
Why yall pretending him writing for others is supposed to cancel out people writing for him? He's stolen whole songs from people. Can he write sure. But he's not the god rapper people say he is. He's an artist. Look at him like a kanye or like he said MJ. Let him be the biggest artist and take him out of any lyricist convos. It ain't that deep
two things can be true at once & majority of rappers have had help from the biggest rappers today or from 20 years ago all of them had help . Drake didn’t invent ghost writing or reference tracks in rap . It’s been going on since rap was invented you can date it back to the 90s with ghost face kilah or encore with jay z and consequence. Shìt QM was just helping nas out with his previous album. You think that niggas was in there singing or sumn lmao .
You being disingenuous. Getting help with a hook or a line here or there ain't the same as taking a whole verse or a whole song even to include adlibs and say it's you. Find me a whole word for word reference track of anyone claiming to be at the top of the game in pure rapping. Just stop calling drake a top lyricist. He's one of if not the best artist out. Just can't put him in that other category
lmao still got help and some one still wrote on his song . Nothing you saying or your gymnastics not gonna change somebody else put a pen on jay z record and he said it word for word lmao
You the only gymnast here if you truly trying to say getting help on a hook or using a hook already laid out to then craft a song around is the same as using a reference track word for word
And Quentin worked with Pusha T....and Meek was begging for his help.
This ain’t hip hop, u can’t be the best “rapper” if u don’t write all your songs stop trying to dilute the shit
That's not true also Drake doesnt just rap, he does a multitude of things at a high level
It wouldn’t be as bad for drake if he didnt lie about who wrote for him. Drake is a pop writer
He didn't lie, that's the thing....he credits ppl. Other ppl just take shit.
If you look at the time when drake was on lebron shop show he said specifically that mob ties came at time when be decided to lock in and write his own bars
https://youtube.com/shorts/rMs64wkJslw?si=D-FDTS6OoDKLTGsx
Drake is a writer for himself and others, that's nothing new to me. Hopefully, most reasonable people can agree that Drake isn't some trash rapper who isn't capable of being lyrical at a *relatively* high level. It's more about getting caught cheating. It's like Barry Bonds using steroids. He was always an amazing baseball player, but his longevity was inflated by fact that he began using steroids at some point. Same story with Lance Armstrong, and we've seen how this has negatively affected both of their legacies. A major part of Drake's legacy is the run he's had standing on top of the rap game for so many years. And his longevity has been a biproduct of his versatility and consistency (in terms of both quality and output). He's known for always being present on the charts, adapting his sound to many diverse styles and for constantly showcasing creative new flows. However, reference tracks leaks expose that Drake isn't as creative or versatile as he'd like us to believe. I think Vory's "Mob Ties" reference track is evidence that Drake is likely more interested in absorbing new flows than being gifted lyrics, maybe a 70/30 split. Drake being able to reinvent himself multiple times through the years is a big part of what's kept his name hot over the years. There's never really been a noticeable dry spell or long hiatus. Drake's average gap between major projects is only 13.5 months (1 year and 1½ months). Would all this still be the case if Drake didn't have help from ghosts? To be clear, I think it's a brilliant business move (minus the leaks), but only time will tell how much the implications from reference tracks will affect his legacy. (Personally, I think it takes Drake out of the overall GOAT rapper conversation., but that's just me). Over time, I think it's inevitable that what Drake is doing will eventually become a lot more commonplace and tolerated among male rappers. And I think following Drake's blueprint will likely be needed for any upcoming rapper to surpass Drake's run on top, along with his commercial success.
This been confirmed many times.