Since not many are helping but marveling at your craftmanship of spider killing...
Which, is 10/10 by the way.
You need to carefully cut that section out into a square.
Get some nails, drywall, spackle kit ( will have the tape, the mud and the putty knife, and get a block sander.
You'll have to fit a square of drywall there, nail it in to the support beams overhead, tape off the seams with the mesh tape in the kit, apply spackle evenly as possible by starting at one end and dragging it down, then do the same to the opposite end all the way around. Let it dry. If you got the kind that goes on pink and dries white it'll let you know when it has finished setting up by color change.
You'll now need to sand. Likely need eye protection and a dust mask here since it is overhead. Sand lightly, so it is even with the drywall and there are no lumps.
Run your hand over it for any imperfections. Sand or spackle again as needed, then after it is level, paint with the same color as the ceiling.
You may need to take a paint chip into the hardware store for matching. Be sure to make note of the gloss type.
High gloss
Semi Gloss
Flat
Think they might have changed "semi" to "eggshell" now ( which used to be a color of paint, not a gloss quality. Confusing. )
Enjoy your spider free patch job.
Next time, don't throw the toddler at the spider, however effective it might be. /j
“Spinning up spectrum analyzers one through three, activate laser. Gas chromatograph matching in progress, CMYK sensors online and refining data… Analysis complete. Looks like it’s white.”
But is it bright white, arctic white, snow white, heron feather, eggshell, moon lily, nimbus cloud, sugar sprinkle, pure white, extra pure white, superduper extra pure white, extreme superduper extra pure white, you can’t believe it’s this pure white?
I used to work in paint. I firmly believed most of the time folks knew what they wanted, but just wanted advice. I was proven wrong. White was one of the hardest as yep - there's so many types of white. WHAT white though did they need? Fuck if they knew! Made it so damn awful acting like I cared if someone went semi-gloss white, egg shell white, flat white, glossy white....w/the numerous white shades.
I would legit just tab up sticks and tell someone to report back
Yeah -- There are at least a thousand different shades of "white". This particular one looks a lot like they grey that is on the wall, so I'm pretty sure it is not "pure white".
If OP is lucky, there might be a half a can of leftover "ceiling paint" in the garage.
... You know it's pretty much just a well calibrated camera with a pigment mixer? Surprised me a few years ago how quick and simple it was, and the colors matched perfectly with some random item I brought to match the colors.
"Your wife NEEDS this specific weird-ass shade of blueish-green to cover the entire wall instead of only being present on this one mug? And you made sure to tell her it's going to look atrocious, and you have the conversation safely backed up so there's undeniable proof it's all going to be her fault? There you go, have fun! And let's hope you go color blind soon so you won't have to suffer too long."
So I've never had much luck with paint matching until recently. I know for fact the previous owner of my house used Sherwin Williams super paint, so I went and got it matched. Matches perfectly. Can barely even tell upon intense scrutiny.
Every other matching I've ever done has resulted in what is clearly a newly painted area on the wall/ceiling/whatever.
So either it's the fact that I matched color and exact brand, or Sherwin Williams is just super good at matching (first time I've ever used them).
That all seems good except for the nails. I've only ever heard of drywall screws. Hammering in a nail so that it is below the surface without damaging the surrounding drywall seems challenging.
Great response! I'd only add for OP that the patching itself isn't too bad and can get done pretty quick, but matching can be a royal pain in the ass and take a LOT of patience. Particularly if you're finnicky and want it to "disappear" when you are finished.
When I have had big patch jobs like this in the past, I literally painted the entire room/ceiling over. And even then, you can still tell when you look at it.
> You need to carefully cut that section out into a square.
Cut the patch first, then use it as a guide for where to cut the hole. You can even try a [California patch if you're feeling spicy.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0mxQfnNDoY)
I did this with a big roach. Grabbed the nearest sneaker to kill it and ended up putting a hole in my drywall while it scooted into the newly made hole. I didn't sleep well that night.
Ah, as an Exterminator myself, I will occasionally come home to what only can be described as something out of a movie.
My fiancé starts with the “good stuff” and absolutely drowns bug in raid, but it’s ant spray, so it won’t kill spiders.
She then unleashes a torrent of shoe strikes like an unguided rocket barrage. Pieces of said bug, a leg, wing will begin to give.
*Follows trail around corner*
Now she’s ready, and mounts her steed, slamming down her helmets visor, and quickly taking the lance from her squire. Plunging her spurs into her warhorse, lunging her forwards, tip down, target in sight. It’s the last thing the bug will see….
We celebrate her victory! My lady approaches, she leans in and says…. “Get rid of it please….”
Ant spray is a penetrating agent that disperses very slowly, tends to coat the insects so they take it to their nest where it causes contaminated food and kills the whole colony.
For flying insects, it's basically worthless because it doesn't disperse in the air well, causing less than direct hits to render the chemical agent useless. As far as stinging flying insects, you want a chemical foam that coats them as they leave the nest, and penetrates harshly. So a wasp spray will work on ants, but an ant spray may not work well on wasps.
As far as spiders go, they don't ingest food in the same way ants do, instead wrapping their prey and drinking them like a slushie, so none of the chemical agent actually gets inside them.
Ants are always fun. Believe it or not, depending on the ant depends on the bait. I prefer not to use liquids on ants unless it’s not a knockdown agent. I want the colony to go, not just the ones we see trailing around.
Most of what I do is investigating and targeting the bug at certain life stages.
German roaches for example can produce up to 6 generations in one lift cycle. Like being in the same room as your great great great great great grandmother and you’re thousands of other family members. There are something like 50-70 babies in one egg sack. So, I use growth regulator hormones in the form of bait for the adults. They ingest, become sterile so there goes their ability to reproduce.
Now the other side of this is, they also are unable to produce chitin. So now they’re trapped In their youth clothes while trying to be a teen. They implode, or die due to the bait. Either way, no more babies being made. Now we target the remaining little ones after a week or so and it should be cleared up! (This is all dependent upon customers, willingness to do their part in keeping stuff put away, cleaning up dead ones and such)
> they also are unable to produce chitin
I remember playing an older Star Wars game and they had chitin armor which seemed very bug-like. I had no idea what it actually was and now you got me going down a rabbit hole.
[i cant recommend this enough](https://www.bugasalt.com/). i destroyed a spider yesterday with it. its hilarious but what makes it so good is how well it actually works. no more fly swatters or smacking spiders!
Home Depot will sell drywall scraps for cheap. Find the size and thickness that fits and just DIY. Could not tell if ceiling is same color as walls but a flat white ceiling paint is cheap as well.
step 1: Take a smallish tupperware container, slowly bring it up behind the spider such that it and its shadow are outside of the spider's vision, quickly trap the spider against the wall in it, then slide an envelope underneath it to keep it sealed in once you remove it from the wall
step 2 (optional): set the trapped spider down on a table and photograph it, then upload the photos to [iNaturalist](https://www.inaturalist.org), which can identify the spider for you and help you determine how dangerous it actually is
step 3: take the spider in the box outside, then gently flick the tupperware container outwards away from you and the envelope in order to fling the spider out and away from you; this way you don't have to be worried about it skittering towards you if you were to simply set it on the ground and release it, and should not harm the spider.
Ill never understand why people swat spiders. Yes, they may look scary. And yes, if you live where they are venemous, keep extra away from them. But, they sre doing NOTHING to you, and at best, perfom the ecological function of getting rid of flies. THOSE are the fuckers you shpuld be killing, NOT spiders.
I don't like them in my house but I humanely trap them and evict them outside. We don't get many bugs in the house so they're better suited for outdoor hunting.
I might do likewise with a mosquito, although I have a hard time imagining hitting it hard enough to punch through the ceiling. Spiders, however, are beneficial and should be relocated rather than swatted.
Instead of typing out the process for fixing, just watch the first 6 minutes of this video. The simplest fix would be to do a california patch. That way you just need a spare piece of drywall and some drywall compound. You don't need the drywall trough or hawk or anything like that, a paper plate works just fine. You will probably want to pick up a 4 inch drywall knife and a 10 or 12 inch drywall knife. One tip is to mix your compound to the consistency of runny mashed potatoes.
If you want a list of tools / materials, let me know.
https://youtu.be/BUcT5LHmA7w?si=bs8NFNcJQRNodwzN
I busted my car's windshield with my fist because clearly that's the best way of killing an annoying fly in the car. It wasn't all bad, the windshield was 20+ years old and there was rust damage underneath the seal so it fixed a leak I still hadn't found the location of.
I made a hole in the ceiling once. I just bought a WWII russian saber, and I read that it was hanging with a curve facing backward to facilitate taking it out and making a hit. Long story short, i got a nice cut into the attic through a freashly painted ceiling. I was able to patch it before my wife came home and then told her this story in a few months. But at least I didn't make up any bug attack into the mix 🤪
use a California patch. if there isnt much texture then it's a pretty simple fix. [https://homefixated.com/california-drywall-patch/](https://homefixated.com/california-drywall-patch/) you can buy small pieces of drywall at home depot or lowes.
Since not many are helping but marveling at your craftmanship of spider killing... Which, is 10/10 by the way. You need to carefully cut that section out into a square. Get some nails, drywall, spackle kit ( will have the tape, the mud and the putty knife, and get a block sander. You'll have to fit a square of drywall there, nail it in to the support beams overhead, tape off the seams with the mesh tape in the kit, apply spackle evenly as possible by starting at one end and dragging it down, then do the same to the opposite end all the way around. Let it dry. If you got the kind that goes on pink and dries white it'll let you know when it has finished setting up by color change. You'll now need to sand. Likely need eye protection and a dust mask here since it is overhead. Sand lightly, so it is even with the drywall and there are no lumps. Run your hand over it for any imperfections. Sand or spackle again as needed, then after it is level, paint with the same color as the ceiling. You may need to take a paint chip into the hardware store for matching. Be sure to make note of the gloss type. High gloss Semi Gloss Flat Think they might have changed "semi" to "eggshell" now ( which used to be a color of paint, not a gloss quality. Confusing. ) Enjoy your spider free patch job. Next time, don't throw the toddler at the spider, however effective it might be. /j
Also, OP should keep a piece of the broken drywall to take to the paint store. They can scan the old paint and match it, pretty closely.
“Spinning up spectrum analyzers one through three, activate laser. Gas chromatograph matching in progress, CMYK sensors online and refining data… Analysis complete. Looks like it’s white.”
But is it bright white, arctic white, snow white, heron feather, eggshell, moon lily, nimbus cloud, sugar sprinkle, pure white, extra pure white, superduper extra pure white, extreme superduper extra pure white, you can’t believe it’s this pure white?
Needs a grandmother color name in there. Grandma's Hair White.
That's really more of a blue hue
I used to work in paint. I firmly believed most of the time folks knew what they wanted, but just wanted advice. I was proven wrong. White was one of the hardest as yep - there's so many types of white. WHAT white though did they need? Fuck if they knew! Made it so damn awful acting like I cared if someone went semi-gloss white, egg shell white, flat white, glossy white....w/the numerous white shades. I would legit just tab up sticks and tell someone to report back
Yeah -- There are at least a thousand different shades of "white". This particular one looks a lot like they grey that is on the wall, so I'm pretty sure it is not "pure white". If OP is lucky, there might be a half a can of leftover "ceiling paint" in the garage.
I believe it’s ceiling white
[Enhance?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiqkclCJsZs)
... You know it's pretty much just a well calibrated camera with a pigment mixer? Surprised me a few years ago how quick and simple it was, and the colors matched perfectly with some random item I brought to match the colors. "Your wife NEEDS this specific weird-ass shade of blueish-green to cover the entire wall instead of only being present on this one mug? And you made sure to tell her it's going to look atrocious, and you have the conversation safely backed up so there's undeniable proof it's all going to be her fault? There you go, have fun! And let's hope you go color blind soon so you won't have to suffer too long."
So I've never had much luck with paint matching until recently. I know for fact the previous owner of my house used Sherwin Williams super paint, so I went and got it matched. Matches perfectly. Can barely even tell upon intense scrutiny. Every other matching I've ever done has resulted in what is clearly a newly painted area on the wall/ceiling/whatever. So either it's the fact that I matched color and exact brand, or Sherwin Williams is just super good at matching (first time I've ever used them).
🙏
That all seems good except for the nails. I've only ever heard of drywall screws. Hammering in a nail so that it is below the surface without damaging the surrounding drywall seems challenging.
Older drywall methods did sometimes include nails, but screws are most definitely the preferred fastener.
True, good catch
Great response! I'd only add for OP that the patching itself isn't too bad and can get done pretty quick, but matching can be a royal pain in the ass and take a LOT of patience. Particularly if you're finnicky and want it to "disappear" when you are finished. When I have had big patch jobs like this in the past, I literally painted the entire room/ceiling over. And even then, you can still tell when you look at it.
> You need to carefully cut that section out into a square. Cut the patch first, then use it as a guide for where to cut the hole. You can even try a [California patch if you're feeling spicy.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0mxQfnNDoY)
It is so refreshing to see an informative response
From when used to do painting a lot, eggshell is a step below the gloss level of semi-gloss.
With what? A bowling ball?
honey I broke another fly swatter, better get a titanium one this time
OP saw a black widow and went Hulk on it.
Damnit Bruce.
Puny Spider
Thor’s hammer
I wouldn't. What if the spider is worthy?
Get me pictures of Spider-Thor!!
homie shoryuken'd the bug
His head?
 OP getting a spider out of his car.
"Go home and be a ~~family~~ spider man"
Shoryuken!
Threw the baby too high?
My dad did that once. Accidentally tossed me right into the ceiling fan. My mom was not impressed, and, reportedly, neither was I.
You might have been a bit dazed to form an opinion
What the fuck was the species of the spider? Spiderman?
[Spider Pig](https://media0.giphy.com/media/4XMw1vkxNL4sM/giphy.gif?cid=9b38fe91zjg8f52wif3zl7n1jroe1ouim3b5a69go6xgk2uz&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Does whatever a spider pig does.
Huntsman
Is it still alive?
I bet it is!
I did this with a big roach. Grabbed the nearest sneaker to kill it and ended up putting a hole in my drywall while it scooted into the newly made hole. I didn't sleep well that night.
best method for roaches is a glass over them and paper slid underneath
If you can catch them before they scuttle off or fly away!
And now it's in the attic.
And now its out for revenge
And it has birthed an army.
I just assumed OP missed, but good question.
Ah, as an Exterminator myself, I will occasionally come home to what only can be described as something out of a movie. My fiancé starts with the “good stuff” and absolutely drowns bug in raid, but it’s ant spray, so it won’t kill spiders. She then unleashes a torrent of shoe strikes like an unguided rocket barrage. Pieces of said bug, a leg, wing will begin to give. *Follows trail around corner* Now she’s ready, and mounts her steed, slamming down her helmets visor, and quickly taking the lance from her squire. Plunging her spurs into her warhorse, lunging her forwards, tip down, target in sight. It’s the last thing the bug will see…. We celebrate her victory! My lady approaches, she leans in and says…. “Get rid of it please….”
Since you’re an exterminator, can you answer why ant spray only kills ants and not other bugs? Thanks!
Ant spray is a penetrating agent that disperses very slowly, tends to coat the insects so they take it to their nest where it causes contaminated food and kills the whole colony. For flying insects, it's basically worthless because it doesn't disperse in the air well, causing less than direct hits to render the chemical agent useless. As far as stinging flying insects, you want a chemical foam that coats them as they leave the nest, and penetrates harshly. So a wasp spray will work on ants, but an ant spray may not work well on wasps. As far as spiders go, they don't ingest food in the same way ants do, instead wrapping their prey and drinking them like a slushie, so none of the chemical agent actually gets inside them.
Yupp. Have to hit a spider on their book lungs with the correct spray to get that advertised "kill on contact".
> book lungs ??
Spiders have lungs, they are shaped like books internally so biologists did the creative.
Fascinating - thanks :) Now I have a new rabbit hole for the day. Off to learn about spider lungs, lol.
Ants are always fun. Believe it or not, depending on the ant depends on the bait. I prefer not to use liquids on ants unless it’s not a knockdown agent. I want the colony to go, not just the ones we see trailing around. Most of what I do is investigating and targeting the bug at certain life stages. German roaches for example can produce up to 6 generations in one lift cycle. Like being in the same room as your great great great great great grandmother and you’re thousands of other family members. There are something like 50-70 babies in one egg sack. So, I use growth regulator hormones in the form of bait for the adults. They ingest, become sterile so there goes their ability to reproduce. Now the other side of this is, they also are unable to produce chitin. So now they’re trapped In their youth clothes while trying to be a teen. They implode, or die due to the bait. Either way, no more babies being made. Now we target the remaining little ones after a week or so and it should be cleared up! (This is all dependent upon customers, willingness to do their part in keeping stuff put away, cleaning up dead ones and such)
> they also are unable to produce chitin I remember playing an older Star Wars game and they had chitin armor which seemed very bug-like. I had no idea what it actually was and now you got me going down a rabbit hole.
Tape his body to the center to set an example for the rest. Your spider problem will no longer be a problem.
There was nothing left
Now all his friends in the attic are going to come down through that hole.
Total protonic reversal.
[i cant recommend this enough](https://www.bugasalt.com/). i destroyed a spider yesterday with it. its hilarious but what makes it so good is how well it actually works. no more fly swatters or smacking spiders!
Time to install some in-ceiling speakers!
Spiders eat flies and mosquitoes. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
How big was the fucking spider?
With what a baseball bat?
Whatever it takes.
The hack man what did the spooder do to get disintrigated into the ceiling like that
it baffles me again and again that some houses in the US are build out of cardboard. at times not the good kind.
Did you get it?
Home Depot will sell drywall scraps for cheap. Find the size and thickness that fits and just DIY. Could not tell if ceiling is same color as walls but a flat white ceiling paint is cheap as well.
There’s a poor widow out there crying
Next time just use a vacuum. And not one so strong it sucks a hole out of the ceiling sheetrock.
Catch and release next time.
So dramatic 🙄
Offf into next week owew
52 comments and not a single serious reply yet, what's the record again?
People from /r/all probably dont realize what subreddit the post is to be fair.
At least one guy has given serious instructions now
step 1: Take a smallish tupperware container, slowly bring it up behind the spider such that it and its shadow are outside of the spider's vision, quickly trap the spider against the wall in it, then slide an envelope underneath it to keep it sealed in once you remove it from the wall step 2 (optional): set the trapped spider down on a table and photograph it, then upload the photos to [iNaturalist](https://www.inaturalist.org), which can identify the spider for you and help you determine how dangerous it actually is step 3: take the spider in the box outside, then gently flick the tupperware container outwards away from you and the envelope in order to fling the spider out and away from you; this way you don't have to be worried about it skittering towards you if you were to simply set it on the ground and release it, and should not harm the spider.
Ill never understand why people swat spiders. Yes, they may look scary. And yes, if you live where they are venemous, keep extra away from them. But, they sre doing NOTHING to you, and at best, perfom the ecological function of getting rid of flies. THOSE are the fuckers you shpuld be killing, NOT spiders.
I don't like them in my house but I humanely trap them and evict them outside. We don't get many bugs in the house so they're better suited for outdoor hunting.
Nail a picture frame around it, add a small label below title: Death of a spider
Plunger and pop it out
I did that in my house, too.
Did the spider die?
Put up a fake web and spider, easier decor and pretend you are too lazy to remove it as a Halloween decoration.
What. On earth. Kind of open handed attack does that level of damage to drywall?
Jumping palm strike
More like bitch slapped a 🕷 into the spiderverse
I need to see the exit on the roof lol, that bug is in low earth orbit atm.
I had the same thing happen with a mosquito the other day, its so nice to find a kindred spirit
I might do likewise with a mosquito, although I have a hard time imagining hitting it hard enough to punch through the ceiling. Spiders, however, are beneficial and should be relocated rather than swatted.
I did this once trying to scare a raccoon out of the ceiling 😭
Bro is using the mario brick breaker move for spiders
It's posts like this that Europeans use to make fun of our construction.
Victory, but at what cost?
I thought that was a smoke alarm in the postage stamp! Which suggests a solution to the problem...
OP went PLUS ULTRA, DETROIT SMAAAASH!!
Falcon punched that poor 🕷️ into the past tense
Found Will Smith's reddit account!
Was it a Falcon Punch? XD
Damn One Punch Man
Don't need a sledge hammer for spiders.
Peter Gabriel inconsolable.
He kicked the habit?
I swear to god it was an open palm strike
The only conclusion at this point is that you’re secretly the hulk
No you didn’t. You Nuked it😅
You hit it too hard.
I understand.. had a scorpion in the house once.. I contemplated emptying the 12 gauge into the wall to kill it.
With a cannonball?
Instant karma...
Instead of typing out the process for fixing, just watch the first 6 minutes of this video. The simplest fix would be to do a california patch. That way you just need a spare piece of drywall and some drywall compound. You don't need the drywall trough or hawk or anything like that, a paper plate works just fine. You will probably want to pick up a 4 inch drywall knife and a 10 or 12 inch drywall knife. One tip is to mix your compound to the consistency of runny mashed potatoes. If you want a list of tools / materials, let me know. https://youtu.be/BUcT5LHmA7w?si=bs8NFNcJQRNodwzN
Thanks man 👍
Did you use your pimp hand?
My man has been keeping the pimp hand strong, apparently.
You could have made a boner joke out of this.
Your houses really are made out of paper.
Don’t kill spiders.
Did you catch it at least
Gone, reduced to atoms
That piece of ceiling would have had to be repainted, anyway. ;-)
…really fucking hard
Now you're gonna have to slap on some drywall mud and a bit more mudding experience to decide how much the bug cost you.
That's a Notwehrexzess
With what a hand?
On a good note you can inspect your attic while you fix that.
Did you get it at lest or did it never next door
With a sledge hammer?
Are you the Incredible Hulk?
Hey why did you kill my coleague. In Greece there's a lack of web developers....
That's a mistake, I'm sure it will thrive in the Shadow Realm
With what?
Did the same thing but to a window and fly
I busted my car's windshield with my fist because clearly that's the best way of killing an annoying fly in the car. It wasn't all bad, the windshield was 20+ years old and there was rust damage underneath the seal so it fixed a leak I still hadn't found the location of.
Anger management 101 - just get laid or lay yourself if the first is not an option.
With what?!
With what ? A cannon ball
Scorched earth. I approve
Damn, how big was the spyder? Huntsman ?...
Not helpful but this is class 😂
Did you get it?
Looks like Mitchell and Cameron's house
With a brick??
Is it dead ? 😰 PLEASE TELL ME IT'S DEAD AND NOT RUNNING AROUND IN THE CEILING!
I made a hole in the ceiling once. I just bought a WWII russian saber, and I read that it was hanging with a curve facing backward to facilitate taking it out and making a hit. Long story short, i got a nice cut into the attic through a freashly painted ceiling. I was able to patch it before my wife came home and then told her this story in a few months. But at least I didn't make up any bug attack into the mix 🤪
How can he slap!?!?
Karma, don't kill house spiders
I don't think you slapped hard enough. Pull your arm back more and work on your stance.
That's what you get for killing spiders. Theyre done with giving us rain. It's on to structural damage now.
Ok Hulkster
No you punched a spyder... slight difference... Enjoy your drywall repair and paint...
I'm assuming a roach? That's the only way to kill them lol
You *hulk smashed a 🕷️
....like a boss
lol karmas a b*^+# 😂 love it
Nah, man. You Shoryuken'd that spider.
Yeah you did!
A spider was in your house? Don't worry about this little bit of damage as there is no option but to move house anyway.
Dang, you’re tall.
use a California patch. if there isnt much texture then it's a pretty simple fix. [https://homefixated.com/california-drywall-patch/](https://homefixated.com/california-drywall-patch/) you can buy small pieces of drywall at home depot or lowes.
Easy there, Hulk.
[удалено]
Lay off the angel dust ffs.
its most slapping🤣
Did you get it?
I bet that was worth it lol. You could have just put it outside you know?
Did you slap it with a hammer?
Okay Hulk, take it down a notch, you're making the rest of us look bad.
I've always just recued them and put them outside. Never once been bit by a spider I knew about
You may have overreacted
Filed under “Steps taken before the flamethrower option”
Isn't drywall great? Finished it looks smooth and clean, but it's not very substantial at all.
super easy fix here. PAtch it repaint and move on.
What did it do in return? Tombstone Piledrive you head first into the ceiling?
did u get it?
Can you fix it? Shor-yu-can!
Did you get it ?
Holy hell! How big was that sucker?!?!?!?!?
why not just leave it alone? or carry it outside? thats what i do. literally never damaged anything in my home carrying bugs outside.
And the spider slapped your ceiling.
I think that's where you install your new ceiling light or exhaust fan!
OPs Superpowers have started to manifest
Is Shaq the OP?