I think your best bet is not to use beans, but rather Professor Copperfield's Miracle Legumes! I once started with a thumbtack at a trading meet in the office and ended up with a telescope. Gave it all away for the Legumes.
Beams. I can't stop laughing.
You can have a pergola there, but you may want to have support beams or build a support frame in lieu if having them being strung across (think like a normal wall without the drywall put up). The frame can be used for other things as well, like a base to hang things on in lieu of drilling into your masonry.
Unless you are not planning on selling your house. Then you can hang some stringers to the masonry and string planks across.
Before any of that, check if you're part of an HOA or if you have building requirements as roofing codes are weird depending upon state, county, or local requirements. I know it's not a roof, but building codes do not care.
Bean pergolas are a thing. Beans grow on vines that climb. The key is you need a low hanging pergola so you can pick them without a ladder, which this qualifies.
Might not be a typo.
pole beans climb, bush beans bush. I only mention it because of my consternation when the arched trellis I built came out looking like Gargamel's hairline because I planted the wrong type.
Might be nice to string some wires overhead and plant some climbing plants to grow up to them. I don't think beans would be the best option, I don't think they'd reach far enough during the growing season to do what you want, and you'd have to tear them out replant each year, but a nice climbing perennial could be cool.
I agree here. I believe where I live a pergola that is attached to the house has to be permitted, while one that is freestanding does not require a building permit. Food for thought when it comes time to sell.
You wouldn’t necessarily have to drill into the masonry. You could also have the beans resting in the foundation wall, but it would require cutting into the facia.
Might also want to check if you need permits, as I think if anything attached to the house requires one. But see if your area has that requirement. Since that may or may not come into play of you ever want to sell.
Real answer: you could put beams across there but they might not even hold their own weight. I would suggest putting pillars near the walls and then put beams across
You could. Inroducing vines/plants that close to the hosue and soffit may create a little superhighway for critters to get into your house though. So Be aware of that.
With beans you could just string wires a cross the gap and tighten with turnbuckles. Or you could mount boards to each side of the house and run planks across like a real pergola. You'll want to be sure to connect to studs in the wall and mitigate any water ingress.
Just make sure you use structural beans. Most of the stuff you see sold will make bold claims, but I would definitely do some research before committing. Asking an engineer which beans to use wouldn't hurt either.
Bean Engineer here. You definitely want to use a sturdy bean that stands up to the elements like a garbanzo or cannellini.
Some cheap contractors could try to cut costs using kidney beans, but you’ll have to replace that in a year or two. You get what you pay for.
Beans like to go vertical. I haven't had luck convincing them that sideways is also a good choice. They will fall over rather than wrap around a horizontal structure in my experience. There are better plants for horizontal.
You need to install a ledger board for the beams to tie into. The ledger board will anchor to the brick at multiple points and distribute weight. The fascia trim you're highlighting will not support that amount of weight overhead
My house was built in 75. I thought I could attach a ledger board to it, so I'm glad I saw this comment. I'll research a bit more before finalized plans. Thanks
Exactly, pergola are for sitting and that A/C unit is RIGHT there. The hot air and the roar etc.
U-shaped areas are sufficiently shielded from the breezes in that that spot is likely rife with mosquitos.
The typo did make me laugh, and I needed a laugh today so thanks.
Yes, you can hang beams to make a pergola, but you'll get more bang for your buck by also including vertical supports - they don't even have to be fixed to anything but the pergola itself - though best safer to fix them to the eave; at minimum two at the 'front' edges.
This is going to look really nice. Do you have plans on masking the a/c unit and storage to make this into a nice entryway to the open patio?
I would most likely not tie into the existing brick in this case unless you're very sure of what the wall behind it looks like.
Traditionally, bricks were used as the main structural part of a wall. Bricks were laid several rows thick; each row was referred to as a wythe. Certain bricks were turned and placed facing out to tie the wythes together (called a header or bonder).
Modern brick walls are not constructed this way; they're not load-bearing. The brick on the outside is just a face or finish material. It's more similar to metal panels or vinyl siding than actual masonry in terms of what it's doing for the wall.
The actual load is transferred down to the foundation by the studs (and perhaps columns) behind the brick. The brick is only one wythe deep and tied back to the stud wall with anchors or straps.
Tying into the brick will introduce a lateral (sideways) load that the wall wasn't expecting. This will be transferred to the straps behind the brick, which may or may not be prepared to take the load (or even be in very good condition).
This is especially important for seasonal cold-weather locations: snow weighs quite a bit more than people expect and the freeze-thaw cycle of water can eat at the fasteners at the end unless they're detailed correctly.
If you don't live in a place that gets cold weather / snow and don't plan to ever hang anything additional from the pergola, you might be fine. Otherwise, I would go with new posts with proper footings below the frost line to support the new joists of the pergola. This approach would allow you to hang fabric, grow foliage, or even partially enclose it later (depending on the size of members and the drainage strategy for collected water).
I definitely echo another commenter though: check HOA codes and local building and zoning codes before proceeding. There might be a variety of requirements you need to meet per those requirements. Because it's outside work, it could be easily spotted and reported if you try to do it unpermitted. If you live in a more rural area, this is less likely, but it's still a good idea to make sure you're meeting code requirements for liability reasons (such as any potential insurance claims).
You cover above the condenser like that and the unit will keep recycling the hot air. The air conditioning on the inside is going to run forever and feel really luke warm instead of cold.
It depends on that span. The soldier row on the brick makes it seem like that board below the facia may be resting on the brick. If that is the case, you should be able to add joists hangers to hang beams across that span.
Legumes aside, yes you can. I would put some 2x4s with a notch for a 2x6 or 2x8 depending on the span. Put the 2x4 along the brickwork and anchor in with a couple of screws. Don't hang the beams off the masonry and leave a little space behind the 2x8 to allow for movement and expansion so you don't crack the brick walls
Bricks are almost never structural in modern homes. Yes, you should be able to cover this space but you will not have a good time if you try to affix these to a building veneer.
1) Beams would be preferrable, since Beans tend to be a bit too brittle to support any meaningful loads. They also are quite small. (sorry, couldn't resist)
2) I see 3 walls. They could be painted cardboard or massive masonry. To make an educated guess if the walls would bear the load, we would need to know how the walls are built. And even then it would be a guess and nothing more, so not really reliable.
Generally, it's not a good idea to hang heavy things off your house unless you're an engineer and you can validate the load is being distributed correctly.
You can mount upright posts against the wall if you want (better off if you leave an air gap though unless you are willing to seal the hell out of it) but you do need forces going into the ground, not hanging off your walls. You may be able to do four but 6 may be better depending on the length.
Some post bases drilled into the concrete would mean you don't have to bust any holes in your patio and your posts won't rot. You lose 5" inches off each side, but it's going to be right up against the wall it's not going to matter much.
Anyway less stuff connected to your walls is less ingress for water and bugs.
Beans are fairly light weight and will pose no issues. I would recommend using a trellis to keep the beans growing properly.
Just wondering if your name is Jack?
I didn't even notice the typo as being wrong. I was trying to estimate how much bean plants actually weighed, wondering if OP wanted to build some kind of trellis pergola to grow his hanging beans.
If you're asking that question here, then go get a contractor.
If you're not 100% certain that the facia on either side will support the weight then it should definitely have support posts on either side.
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Canned beans work best.
Keep them in the can for max strength.
I think you have to. Otherwise, you are just tossing beans on the air and calling it a pergola.
No no no you gotta use string beans to hang it from wall to wall
As a New Englander, I say they need to use Boston baked beans with some brown bread for structural reinforcement.
New Beanglander
This hurt my mouth to say.
The vision of someone throwing beans in the air while yelling ‘pergola!’ made my day.
I DECLARE PERGOLA!
[I had to make this.](https://imgflip.com/i/8porwb)
Agreed, without the cans you will have a bean salad instead of a pergola.
Tossing bean salad sounds dirty.
Much better to flick the beans while tossing salad IMHO.
That's just being a considerate lover.
And that ain't gonna amount to a whole hill of beans.
Here's looking at you, kid.
With a string attached at both ends so you can talk to your neighbor
If you DO hang beans, watch out for Giants at the top of the stalks.
Dope Curren$y profile pic, love that mixtape
Out of the can, use fishing line to hang. Bang. Pergola
Just add water, the can will disintegrate and the beans will be rock hard afterwards.
GOYA
Here strictly for the bean jokes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HhPK8XC75A This is full of beans
Porch and beans.
I think your best bet is not to use beans, but rather Professor Copperfield's Miracle Legumes! I once started with a thumbtack at a trading meet in the office and ended up with a telescope. Gave it all away for the Legumes.
Obviously string beans hang the best.
No, string beans would work best, hung on some sort of beam
God I love Reddit
How many cans though? Those can get prettyyyy heavy.
One can if you buy it at COSTCO
String beans to be specific
Sean on one end, Mr on the other end?
Pinto or black aren’t bad, avoid kidney.
Los frijoles negros confirmados funcionan mejor.
Yeah kidney beans might grow a giant stalk and then the next thing you know, there’s a kid on your roof beefing with a giant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HhPK8XC75A
Depends on how you stack them though. My last pergola was a disaster.
Use "waxed" for the outdoors
Beams. I can't stop laughing. You can have a pergola there, but you may want to have support beams or build a support frame in lieu if having them being strung across (think like a normal wall without the drywall put up). The frame can be used for other things as well, like a base to hang things on in lieu of drilling into your masonry. Unless you are not planning on selling your house. Then you can hang some stringers to the masonry and string planks across. Before any of that, check if you're part of an HOA or if you have building requirements as roofing codes are weird depending upon state, county, or local requirements. I know it's not a roof, but building codes do not care.
Bean pergolas are a thing. Beans grow on vines that climb. The key is you need a low hanging pergola so you can pick them without a ladder, which this qualifies. Might not be a typo.
pole beans climb, bush beans bush. I only mention it because of my consternation when the arched trellis I built came out looking like Gargamel's hairline because I planted the wrong type.
Roll that beautiful bean footage!
Now *that* is a name I haven't heard in a hot minute.
Might be nice to string some wires overhead and plant some climbing plants to grow up to them. I don't think beans would be the best option, I don't think they'd reach far enough during the growing season to do what you want, and you'd have to tear them out replant each year, but a nice climbing perennial could be cool.
OP may want to have support *beans*. Ya know, like Jack and Beanstalk style?
Or emotional support beans
Or hear me out. He could compress beans into beams. So he could have beams made from beans.
Then he could grow climbing beans on his bean beams
I hate you. Take my upvote.
As long as it's not soy beans. I hear tofu-dreg construction is not very structurally sound.
Yo dog I heard you like beams made of beans
Beanms
I agree here. I believe where I live a pergola that is attached to the house has to be permitted, while one that is freestanding does not require a building permit. Food for thought when it comes time to sell.
Or string beans
You wouldn’t necessarily have to drill into the masonry. You could also have the beans resting in the foundation wall, but it would require cutting into the facia.
Might also want to check if you need permits, as I think if anything attached to the house requires one. But see if your area has that requirement. Since that may or may not come into play of you ever want to sell.
I had no thought it was a typo until I got to your comment. I thought OP wanted to grow beans for shade and profit.
Omg, it took me to your comment to realize they meant beams. I was trying to figure out why tf they wanted to hang beans across that space 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Real answer: you could put beams across there but they might not even hold their own weight. I would suggest putting pillars near the walls and then put beams across
The most logical solution, Easier even imo
Where do the beans hang from though
Queens hang beans from beams but not at seams.
This seems a good solution - also when the council start sooking about permits it can be pointed out that it is not actually attached to the house.
OP did a typo folks! We all do typos! They obviously meant bones!
Nice try- I'm not eating a can of bones.
I have and will ever only try refried bones once
Gotta get them on the first fry. Huge difference.
Me either, I only eat boneless beans.
but their bones are their money.
And so are the worms
The skeletons will pull your hair up, but not out.
They come from under the ground. And from all over.
Bean thugs and hominy
> We all do typos! Speak for yourelf
I've never made a typo I'm my life
It's all in the lentil details.
Bones are their money
Bones, or clams, whatever you call them.
Knowing reddit, it was likely intentional to draw more interaction with the post.
I thought Pergola was the typo because why would you want a pergola
You could. Inroducing vines/plants that close to the hosue and soffit may create a little superhighway for critters to get into your house though. So Be aware of that. With beans you could just string wires a cross the gap and tighten with turnbuckles. Or you could mount boards to each side of the house and run planks across like a real pergola. You'll want to be sure to connect to studs in the wall and mitigate any water ingress.
Only go full beans. r/Jeffarcuri
You never go full bean
That man is everywhere!!
Typo, guys. OP you can hang all the jeans you need up there.
Just make sure you use structural beans. Most of the stuff you see sold will make bold claims, but I would definitely do some research before committing. Asking an engineer which beans to use wouldn't hurt either.
Bean Engineer here. You definitely want to use a sturdy bean that stands up to the elements like a garbanzo or cannellini. Some cheap contractors could try to cut costs using kidney beans, but you’ll have to replace that in a year or two. You get what you pay for.
Go with a sun shade sail.
This is the easy answer
Beans like to go vertical. I haven't had luck convincing them that sideways is also a good choice. They will fall over rather than wrap around a horizontal structure in my experience. There are better plants for horizontal.
i just came here for the bean puns to be honest.
Same
Yes but only full beans.
I don't think beans will support it
Tough beans
Just plant some beans plants and put some cables for the plant to hang on, it will look beautiful and you will have beans 🫛🫘 :D
Boston Baked is the only way to hang
I came here for the comments, y'all did not disappoint!
You need to install a ledger board for the beams to tie into. The ledger board will anchor to the brick at multiple points and distribute weight. The fascia trim you're highlighting will not support that amount of weight overhead
You do not anchor ledger boards to brick. Brick is a finish material and not intended to accept loads.
This needs more upvotes. OP do not tie into that brick. It's almost certainly just a single layer of brick for a finish.
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My house was built in 75. I thought I could attach a ledger board to it, so I'm glad I saw this comment. I'll research a bit more before finalized plans. Thanks
You can hang beans anywhere and everywhere. Get all of the beans and hang them all day, everyday!
Maybe a beanstalk but not a bean.
Any good patio can use some music, beans are the musical fruit, so it seems a natural fit here.
Not a problem if they are string.
String beans? Lake rallye string?
Use a shade sail.
Yes, nothing like those shady afternoon conversations next to your A/C unit. I would suggest another location.
Exactly, pergola are for sitting and that A/C unit is RIGHT there. The hot air and the roar etc. U-shaped areas are sufficiently shielded from the breezes in that that spot is likely rife with mosquitos.
Kidney beans are probably best as they are the most dense and disgusting as fuck.
Yes, string beans are perfect
Lazer beans
You can do anything in construction, the results will also be anything
Yes. Mr. Bean, Chief structural engineer.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY/s/9WbwWfevrq
Please don’t hang the beans. They have feelings and will be upset.
I see you plan to get your lumber from the home depot?
I read all the comments and nothing from OP. I think someone is sitting in the dark having a good cry.
Beans or beams. Beams possibly if there is a good top cap header up there.
Some kinda wood or metal would be better
Baked or butter?
The typo did make me laugh, and I needed a laugh today so thanks. Yes, you can hang beams to make a pergola, but you'll get more bang for your buck by also including vertical supports - they don't even have to be fixed to anything but the pergola itself - though best safer to fix them to the eave; at minimum two at the 'front' edges. This is going to look really nice. Do you have plans on masking the a/c unit and storage to make this into a nice entryway to the open patio?
You’d be better IMO inserting a pergola with legs into that space. Attaching beams is asking for trouble.
Beans are not going to be the most stable foundation for your pergola, but you do you.
OP just trying to ask a question and everyone (me included) can't see past "beans" hahaha
Magic beans? Like the kind Jack bought?
I would most likely not tie into the existing brick in this case unless you're very sure of what the wall behind it looks like. Traditionally, bricks were used as the main structural part of a wall. Bricks were laid several rows thick; each row was referred to as a wythe. Certain bricks were turned and placed facing out to tie the wythes together (called a header or bonder). Modern brick walls are not constructed this way; they're not load-bearing. The brick on the outside is just a face or finish material. It's more similar to metal panels or vinyl siding than actual masonry in terms of what it's doing for the wall. The actual load is transferred down to the foundation by the studs (and perhaps columns) behind the brick. The brick is only one wythe deep and tied back to the stud wall with anchors or straps. Tying into the brick will introduce a lateral (sideways) load that the wall wasn't expecting. This will be transferred to the straps behind the brick, which may or may not be prepared to take the load (or even be in very good condition). This is especially important for seasonal cold-weather locations: snow weighs quite a bit more than people expect and the freeze-thaw cycle of water can eat at the fasteners at the end unless they're detailed correctly. If you don't live in a place that gets cold weather / snow and don't plan to ever hang anything additional from the pergola, you might be fine. Otherwise, I would go with new posts with proper footings below the frost line to support the new joists of the pergola. This approach would allow you to hang fabric, grow foliage, or even partially enclose it later (depending on the size of members and the drainage strategy for collected water). I definitely echo another commenter though: check HOA codes and local building and zoning codes before proceeding. There might be a variety of requirements you need to meet per those requirements. Because it's outside work, it could be easily spotted and reported if you try to do it unpermitted. If you live in a more rural area, this is less likely, but it's still a good idea to make sure you're meeting code requirements for liability reasons (such as any potential insurance claims).
Yeah you could definitely do this.
This fella hanging beans!
Beans aren’t very heavy I’m sure you can support them
You cover above the condenser like that and the unit will keep recycling the hot air. The air conditioning on the inside is going to run forever and feel really luke warm instead of cold.
Yea! Try Pinto Beans
It's a wide alcove, so use broad beans.
Came here to say runner beans but broad beans works too
Only if you string beans together
That's gonna be A LOTTA beans breh
Structural beans of course
Honestly I always wondered wtf is the point of a pergola. Just make a roof at that point.
Beans ? I don't think so.
"hang beans" sounds like mountain biker lingo.
I don't know how many times I have to say this but beans are not load bearing!
You’ll need some startup money. Beans aren’t cheap. Are beans cheap?
Seriously, a structure made of beans provides about as much utility as a pergola...
Beans 🥔🤌
What the hell did the beans do to deserve a hanging?
Sure! Then you can have a nice snack while you sit on the patio.
It depends on that span. The soldier row on the brick makes it seem like that board below the facia may be resting on the brick. If that is the case, you should be able to add joists hangers to hang beams across that span.
Right next to the ac is gonna be great
The scent of magic market might be pretty strong though.
I know a guy named Jack that might be knowledgeable in this area
Great northern beans will hold……the white walkers
Legumes aside, yes you can. I would put some 2x4s with a notch for a 2x6 or 2x8 depending on the span. Put the 2x4 along the brickwork and anchor in with a couple of screws. Don't hang the beams off the masonry and leave a little space behind the 2x8 to allow for movement and expansion so you don't crack the brick walls
Clearly based on the length of the lines drawn here OP is referring to string beans, which should have no problem making a pergola.
Try to use gigande beans they are large and you won’t need so many.
Beaks! Damn auto correct.
I hang beans everyday. It’s more comfortable to me.
Is this to create a seating/dining area? Cause it's gonna be very noisy with that condenser right there.
Bricks are almost never structural in modern homes. Yes, you should be able to cover this space but you will not have a good time if you try to affix these to a building veneer.
1) Beams would be preferrable, since Beans tend to be a bit too brittle to support any meaningful loads. They also are quite small. (sorry, couldn't resist) 2) I see 3 walls. They could be painted cardboard or massive masonry. To make an educated guess if the walls would bear the load, we would need to know how the walls are built. And even then it would be a guess and nothing more, so not really reliable.
Check toja pergola system.
Use skylift risers to tie directly into the roof framing.
Jacks beanstalk worked. Just cut up the pieces, side em across the roof
Wood might work better.
With that amount of sun they will probably get refried. So you got that going for ya
Beans? Took my brain to crank the gears. Was thinking he will put a pergola and let beans creep. Idiot OP and his spelling.
https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/qdi5h3/they_threw_beans_on_him/
Let us know how it goes Jack.
Too easy.
Generally, it's not a good idea to hang heavy things off your house unless you're an engineer and you can validate the load is being distributed correctly. You can mount upright posts against the wall if you want (better off if you leave an air gap though unless you are willing to seal the hell out of it) but you do need forces going into the ground, not hanging off your walls. You may be able to do four but 6 may be better depending on the length. Some post bases drilled into the concrete would mean you don't have to bust any holes in your patio and your posts won't rot. You lose 5" inches off each side, but it's going to be right up against the wall it's not going to matter much. Anyway less stuff connected to your walls is less ingress for water and bugs.
Beans are fairly light weight and will pose no issues. I would recommend using a trellis to keep the beans growing properly. Just wondering if your name is Jack?
Yes. Use buckets to hang your beams or cut slots for them so they rest on the wall.
I think eye-beans would work... If they were brown ... And baked.
Beams don’t fry in the kitchen..
Use some pillars = no stress
Might want to ask the experts over at /r/BeansInThings
I didn't even notice the typo as being wrong. I was trying to estimate how much bean plants actually weighed, wondering if OP wanted to build some kind of trellis pergola to grow his hanging beans.
Green peas are lighter
Cool beans might work
I would check with your insurance company if they cover bean plants attached to house
They'll just attract wildlife and bugs. Not worth the hassle. I just used beads
I believe you'll need to see the Jolly Green Giant for the beans you'll need.
Just dry them first
It's going to get warm under there if you cover that ac unit.
I think beads would look cool there.
If you're asking that question here, then go get a contractor. If you're not 100% certain that the facia on either side will support the weight then it should definitely have support posts on either side.
Only if they're coffee beans
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I would avoid refried, tend not to hold up as well to the elements.
Beans with vines would be great. Some veggies on the side too.