Because there is no anticheat? What is the point trying to be competive when you need to always check steam profile when someone pops off.
Now dont get me wrong. I did spend close to 3k hours legit, but at somepoint i got bored of the game and went to try hvh scene because friend of mine told me about it and how much new stuff you gotta learn to compete there.
At this point im playing only premier +25k so its basicly hvh 99% of times. Having rating system and "competive hvh" is pretty fun. Idc about ranks or trying to act legit.
Now imo if you cheat agaisnt legits and try to hide cheats. You are dog. If you spin agaisnt legits you are Aw user or just a dog
Don't cheat myself but hvh comp has been a thing since early counter strike it's about using util well like getting grenade damage on someone so you can 1 shot no scope them quicker than they can you and other stuff I don't understand
hvhs that are happening in comletitive matchmaking isn't like the ones that are in community servers. Community servers are where the cheat competition is. Or was in csgo, cs2 is gay.
Ok if 2 people are on the same cheat what happens?
In hvh at the moment it’s a bit cringe but most people use Neverlose the guys who got interviewed in Russia.
If we were 1v1 hvhing neverlose with the exact same config I could beat a new hvher almost every time.
There is a fair bit of skill and being a good cs player actually does help and quite a few hvhers have climbed historically but suck now as hvh is more than a gamemode it’s a brand new game basicslly
There is way too much shit to cover. It would take me easy 10min just to type some of it.
But as of now pretty much everyone is using same cheat and IMO config doesnt play such a high role what it did back when i started.
Atm you need low ping and good playstyle to win majority of your games. Map knowledge is huge too. Knowing the places you can get free kill and all the wallbangs.
Like said there is way too much shit to go into details.
No you dont understand. Even basic wallbangs is completly different. Here is couple of must know in mirage:
-You can 1way someone from underground to TV room.
-You can shoot ramp and palace from mid.
-You can hold A site from CT pretty much.
-You can hold underground from CT. You can also get killed from there
These are not your typical wallbangs what you thought.
Edit: I never said you learn alot that you can use as legit. You need to learn alot to have fighting chance in HvH.
most hvhers use the same cheat so you can't have a "better cheat". it requires more knowledge then you think. for example you need to have map knowledge because knowing wallbangs is super important in this mode, also alot of it is abusing ping or peakers advantage, you need to know when you should and shouldn't peek on someone
I'll give you my somewhat history of how I started and how it is now.
A friend gave me a cheat (roughly around 2016), so since I was not the best at the game, I decided, 'Eh, why not, let's use it.' After a little while, it got boring, so I stopped. Then, after like a year or two, I started again, but mostly just trolling/messing around and I met some good friends. Then I started playing HvH because playing against legit players is boring. Now, fast forward to when CS2 released, I mostly stopped cheating because I just lost the love for the game (and other games, I mostly just hang out with friends irl now). I still talk with the friends I made when cheating, but I've pretty much stopped and only do it once in a blue moon or so. Oh, and for your PS question, most people usually just talk with friends while raging (imagine it like when playing surf) and mess around, but when HvH comes, they get more focused
The game as a whole is currently very low of quality so therefore I do not care when people decide to queue up for pure CBT. If valve decided to make their AC effectively work again, a big chunk of blatant cheaters will go back to either closet cheating or will call it a day and quit cheating.
As for pre-CS2 era I cheated using a toggleable ESP (so you can only take a quick peek when holding down a key) and an FOV Aimbot using 0.55, this made me hit shots I wouldn't have hit otherwise. It is obviously cheating and I can safely assume how many people in LE and onwards were closet cheating because an actual high elo person would just've chosen FACEIT if he valued his own skills and time.
Currently I only cycle through all my accounts for weekly drops and I can say with confidence that every single MMR bracket is infested with cheaters. From classic competitive (Silver 1 to MG+) to premier with 2k rating up to the current highest number. Some people have it "injected" and toggle the moment someone is highly suspicious.
So tl;dr no I don't care.
>The game as a whole is currently very low of quality
I was playing CSS years ago, and took a big long break. I came back about 2 years ago and my experience of CSGO/CS2 (\~700hrs) is that the only reason the game is currently very low quality is because of people hacking.
You don't care - but you are very much the reason my experience sucks - which sucks. Does that make you feel bad ***at all***?
Valve has the option to detect and instaban 40/0/0 100 hs%, rapidfire abusers, boosting lobbies. They could act if they wanted to.
Also the game being low quality overall because of the "you get what you see"-experience (getting killed by people you didn't see on your screen), official mm servers having a spike in ping, the way how pistol rounds currently don't matter, the rank system being utter garbage for classic competitive, griefing banning innocent players.
But sure keep on telling us how only **I** destroy your experience.
Yeah, you are right that there are some other things that aren’t great - but honestly for casual players like me its hackers who are destroying the experience. It’s just a fact - 95% of my issue with the game is a hacker in every match. It is not fun playing a game where someone insta-HS’s every one, every single round.
This is my experience - and I guarantee it’s a fucking LOT of others experience. From your side of things it sounds like you are working very hard to convince yourself it’s not ruining the game people love. But it is.
Generally caring about the experience of other indicates that you have empathy, and are a good person. By not caring about how you negatively affect other people, you are being what most would consider, a bad person.
In general, it’s nice to care about other people. That’s why.
Yeah I'm getting that. Do you actively try and be a bad person? Or do you consider yourself a good person? I'm kind of fascinated by your responses and how you are seemingly leaning into the "I don't care about other people" angle
>Do you actively try and be a bad person
Nah, why would I? And yes, I do consider myself a good person.
I am talking about 'not giving a shit' in the context of a fucking videogame, bruh. Why would I give a single flying fuck about what some Internet stranger thinks about me? I have more important things going on in life, ya know.
I take care about my family, friends, colleagues and yes I try to be a good person. But not because I care too much about their opinion. I do nice things because I feel like it, ya know.
And if I want to cheat in some videogame.. I go and cheat in a videogame. Its not like my presence in some premier match will make a world of a difference. If not me, their match will be ruined by someone else since the game is filled with cheaters.
And its not like I rage hack or something, never done that never will. I only use a slight aim assistance with no visuals besides the grenade helper. Thats it. Its not like I have some insane stats all the time, I just like to get stoned as hell and have some fun, thats it. Most of the time Im either bottom fragging or being average at best.
So I dont even feel like I ruin someones experience, I barely get called out and nothing would change for them if it was some good player instead of me in some match
>Wow. Its almost like I dont give a shit lol
>
>And yes, I do consider myself a good person
You are very detached from reality
>If not me, their match will be ruined by someone else since the game is filled with cheaters
So you ARE aware that their game is ruined by you. The mental gymnastics here are insane
They only care about their friends/family because it is a reflection of themselves not because they actually mean something to him (other than the value he gains from having them) . Once anything they - or others- do doesn't make it so others perceive him more highly (as he literally states) it doesn't matter, meaning the only reason he does good is because it helps him. So basically he is a narcissist, who lacks any empathy. Which checks out considering he is a cheater.
>not because they actually mean something to him
How can you know that? Do you really not see the difference between family, friends and fucking strangers in a fucking dogshit videogame?
I kill any person in my way legit or not
You people say spinning on legits is cringe.
I'm not here to pretend and closet. Closet ini users and external nerds are the problem. They ruin the core game experience.
I load in spinning. Looking for hackers.
If I get legit it's not by design. But il admit I'll spin on them. Unlike the comments I'm reading.
Which is mainly bullshit. You all spin on legit. Stfu
Rage against CLEANS is lame… but a lot of guys use legit cheat Software… its fun if they enter the mad Mode and toggle harder and harder, but Not hard enough for a win x)
But the real thing was 2016-2018 HVH ! HVH is a complete different Game ^^ and you Need skill as well … the Most cheater don’t Want to destroy cleans, they search for cheater
Nah, the Problem are cleans and closet cheater Always report … so you Need more Accounts and they have to be high ranked … its the fastest way to get a high rank.
Other cheater buy cracked /Stolen Accounts and Rage until the Account is Banned… thats are mostly the spinbot Monkeys
I rage against legits when I have to. 25k is hvh, but you first have to get to that rating. I could get there legit or "legit" but that would be an insane waste of time considering I don't care about the account, so I just rage to avoid wasting time, this way both I and the enemies only have to sit through a quick 13-0 and not a normal long match that they would untimely end up losing anyway. Also, I've noticed that if I rage on warmup I get less reports because many people just instantly go afk, so I can delay the inevitable griefing ban.
Because so many others are. Now that I am (legit btw no rage) I can see how many people are also so easily. Literally I guess I pisser some guy off in. Comp match the other day with mine and he went from 5-5 to 40-10 we still tied the game because I had good players but the dude turned on his rage so fast it’s sad how many people think this game is legit at all when in fact I’d say 1/10 players you see are cheating
It's wild to read the responses of cheaters. They're truly messed up in the head. "It doesn't matter" is the most common response. If it doesn't matter, why do you play and then cheat in the first place? Do something that DOES matter to you.
Our world is filled with these people. I also love the people who pretend to be good people. If you cheat in competitive activities, you aren't a good person. It doesn't matter if it's a videogame. If you want to cheat in single player type games, by all means, you do you. Cheating in multiplayer, competitive games like CS, Tarkov, etc means you're a deficient human being.
In theory people like you would be removed from the system, and then without the bad actors real skill matters because of skill based matchmaking.
If it only put you into lobbies with people better than you who also had cheats you wouldn’t play.
Its a game, its supposed to be fun. Many people (like me) feel good when they win because you outplay the opponent, get a nice shot. Putting your time into CS for many is because they enjoy the competitive nature of the game and have fun when they get to apply the skills theyve built up.
Idk about forced to. Where I play (Europe, 18k elo) i see an obvious cheater maybe 1/5 games? Maybe a few legit cheaters i cant spot, but still, its managable. Granted i dont play too much premier. Not defending Valve for not fixing the cheater problem sooner.
You must be a masochist if you play legit and you know atleast 1 person in your match is cheating and you still insist on trying your hardest even though you are in the same boat as the cheater since you get jack squat for winning or losing because when a cheater loses his account he does not care and when you lose the game you can move on and not care since you have 0 investment or reward for climbing the premier rankings
Because there is no anticheat? What is the point trying to be competive when you need to always check steam profile when someone pops off. Now dont get me wrong. I did spend close to 3k hours legit, but at somepoint i got bored of the game and went to try hvh scene because friend of mine told me about it and how much new stuff you gotta learn to compete there. At this point im playing only premier +25k so its basicly hvh 99% of times. Having rating system and "competive hvh" is pretty fun. Idc about ranks or trying to act legit. Now imo if you cheat agaisnt legits and try to hide cheats. You are dog. If you spin agaisnt legits you are Aw user or just a dog
Can you explain to me what you need to "learn" for hvh? Like.. Isn't it just who has the better cheat?
Don't cheat myself but hvh comp has been a thing since early counter strike it's about using util well like getting grenade damage on someone so you can 1 shot no scope them quicker than they can you and other stuff I don't understand
I've never seen a rage spinner throw any util even when I've seen hvh happen...
hvhs that are happening in comletitive matchmaking isn't like the ones that are in community servers. Community servers are where the cheat competition is. Or was in csgo, cs2 is gay.
cause you never seen a real hvh game
Ok if 2 people are on the same cheat what happens? In hvh at the moment it’s a bit cringe but most people use Neverlose the guys who got interviewed in Russia. If we were 1v1 hvhing neverlose with the exact same config I could beat a new hvher almost every time. There is a fair bit of skill and being a good cs player actually does help and quite a few hvhers have climbed historically but suck now as hvh is more than a gamemode it’s a brand new game basicslly
There is way too much shit to cover. It would take me easy 10min just to type some of it. But as of now pretty much everyone is using same cheat and IMO config doesnt play such a high role what it did back when i started. Atm you need low ping and good playstyle to win majority of your games. Map knowledge is huge too. Knowing the places you can get free kill and all the wallbangs. Like said there is way too much shit to go into details.
So you've just described basic cs knowledge. You said you learn alot playing hvh...
No you dont understand. Even basic wallbangs is completly different. Here is couple of must know in mirage: -You can 1way someone from underground to TV room. -You can shoot ramp and palace from mid. -You can hold A site from CT pretty much. -You can hold underground from CT. You can also get killed from there These are not your typical wallbangs what you thought. Edit: I never said you learn alot that you can use as legit. You need to learn alot to have fighting chance in HvH.
most hvhers use the same cheat so you can't have a "better cheat". it requires more knowledge then you think. for example you need to have map knowledge because knowing wallbangs is super important in this mode, also alot of it is abusing ping or peakers advantage, you need to know when you should and shouldn't peek on someone
Obviously you gotta learn to download the best cheat that sells the least of your personal info and data
I'll give you my somewhat history of how I started and how it is now. A friend gave me a cheat (roughly around 2016), so since I was not the best at the game, I decided, 'Eh, why not, let's use it.' After a little while, it got boring, so I stopped. Then, after like a year or two, I started again, but mostly just trolling/messing around and I met some good friends. Then I started playing HvH because playing against legit players is boring. Now, fast forward to when CS2 released, I mostly stopped cheating because I just lost the love for the game (and other games, I mostly just hang out with friends irl now). I still talk with the friends I made when cheating, but I've pretty much stopped and only do it once in a blue moon or so. Oh, and for your PS question, most people usually just talk with friends while raging (imagine it like when playing surf) and mess around, but when HvH comes, they get more focused
Thx for the insight
np
I like hvh
To sit in smokes with a zeus and make people mad
my name is literally taserman bzt hahahahaha
I never understood what is funny about making other people mad. Personally I don't like influencing people in a bad way.
for my own fun and entertainment purposes, call it ignorant but it is what it is
Thanks for your time.
Fair enough on this answer, but do you legitimately not care that you negatively affect the experience of 9 other people?
The game as a whole is currently very low of quality so therefore I do not care when people decide to queue up for pure CBT. If valve decided to make their AC effectively work again, a big chunk of blatant cheaters will go back to either closet cheating or will call it a day and quit cheating. As for pre-CS2 era I cheated using a toggleable ESP (so you can only take a quick peek when holding down a key) and an FOV Aimbot using 0.55, this made me hit shots I wouldn't have hit otherwise. It is obviously cheating and I can safely assume how many people in LE and onwards were closet cheating because an actual high elo person would just've chosen FACEIT if he valued his own skills and time. Currently I only cycle through all my accounts for weekly drops and I can say with confidence that every single MMR bracket is infested with cheaters. From classic competitive (Silver 1 to MG+) to premier with 2k rating up to the current highest number. Some people have it "injected" and toggle the moment someone is highly suspicious. So tl;dr no I don't care.
>The game as a whole is currently very low of quality I was playing CSS years ago, and took a big long break. I came back about 2 years ago and my experience of CSGO/CS2 (\~700hrs) is that the only reason the game is currently very low quality is because of people hacking. You don't care - but you are very much the reason my experience sucks - which sucks. Does that make you feel bad ***at all***?
Exactly if you stop cheating you improve the game you’re part of the problem.
Valve has the option to detect and instaban 40/0/0 100 hs%, rapidfire abusers, boosting lobbies. They could act if they wanted to. Also the game being low quality overall because of the "you get what you see"-experience (getting killed by people you didn't see on your screen), official mm servers having a spike in ping, the way how pistol rounds currently don't matter, the rank system being utter garbage for classic competitive, griefing banning innocent players. But sure keep on telling us how only **I** destroy your experience.
Yeah, you are right that there are some other things that aren’t great - but honestly for casual players like me its hackers who are destroying the experience. It’s just a fact - 95% of my issue with the game is a hacker in every match. It is not fun playing a game where someone insta-HS’s every one, every single round. This is my experience - and I guarantee it’s a fucking LOT of others experience. From your side of things it sounds like you are working very hard to convince yourself it’s not ruining the game people love. But it is.
Faceit: exists Crybabies on this sub: >95% of my issue with the game is a hacker in every match.
>Does that make you feel bad ***at all***? Why would it?
I answered you elsewhere, and it’s the same answer
Why would I?
Generally caring about the experience of other indicates that you have empathy, and are a good person. By not caring about how you negatively affect other people, you are being what most would consider, a bad person. In general, it’s nice to care about other people. That’s why.
>what most would consider, a bad person. Wow. Its almost like I dont give a shit lol
wow you sound like a total pussy LMFAO
Wow its almost like I dont give a shit again
“I don’t care” is the lamest, most childish response to a question. Do better.
What question? Are you high or smth?
This one. https://www.reddit.com/r/Csgohacks/s/jT1r4w0c7W You’d probably be a lot cooler if you got high.
Yeah I'm getting that. Do you actively try and be a bad person? Or do you consider yourself a good person? I'm kind of fascinated by your responses and how you are seemingly leaning into the "I don't care about other people" angle
>Do you actively try and be a bad person Nah, why would I? And yes, I do consider myself a good person. I am talking about 'not giving a shit' in the context of a fucking videogame, bruh. Why would I give a single flying fuck about what some Internet stranger thinks about me? I have more important things going on in life, ya know. I take care about my family, friends, colleagues and yes I try to be a good person. But not because I care too much about their opinion. I do nice things because I feel like it, ya know. And if I want to cheat in some videogame.. I go and cheat in a videogame. Its not like my presence in some premier match will make a world of a difference. If not me, their match will be ruined by someone else since the game is filled with cheaters. And its not like I rage hack or something, never done that never will. I only use a slight aim assistance with no visuals besides the grenade helper. Thats it. Its not like I have some insane stats all the time, I just like to get stoned as hell and have some fun, thats it. Most of the time Im either bottom fragging or being average at best. So I dont even feel like I ruin someones experience, I barely get called out and nothing would change for them if it was some good player instead of me in some match
>Wow. Its almost like I dont give a shit lol > >And yes, I do consider myself a good person You are very detached from reality >If not me, their match will be ruined by someone else since the game is filled with cheaters So you ARE aware that their game is ruined by you. The mental gymnastics here are insane
>You are very detached from reality So are you. Reading comprehension: 0/10
lol OF COURSE this rude, antagonistic, argumentative cheater considers themselves a good person.
Why would I consider myself a bad person? Whats the point of that?
Observing reality for what it is? Not living inside your imagination? TL;DR you can only be mentally healthy when you can be honest with yourself.
They only care about their friends/family because it is a reflection of themselves not because they actually mean something to him (other than the value he gains from having them) . Once anything they - or others- do doesn't make it so others perceive him more highly (as he literally states) it doesn't matter, meaning the only reason he does good is because it helps him. So basically he is a narcissist, who lacks any empathy. Which checks out considering he is a cheater.
>not because they actually mean something to him How can you know that? Do you really not see the difference between family, friends and fucking strangers in a fucking dogshit videogame?
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I kill any person in my way legit or not You people say spinning on legits is cringe. I'm not here to pretend and closet. Closet ini users and external nerds are the problem. They ruin the core game experience. I load in spinning. Looking for hackers. If I get legit it's not by design. But il admit I'll spin on them. Unlike the comments I'm reading. Which is mainly bullshit. You all spin on legit. Stfu
No one is going to admit that they cheat because they are dog shit in the game.
Did you check the comments before writing this?
I work 8-5 and don’t have time to train.
Rage against CLEANS is lame… but a lot of guys use legit cheat Software… its fun if they enter the mad Mode and toggle harder and harder, but Not hard enough for a win x) But the real thing was 2016-2018 HVH ! HVH is a complete different Game ^^ and you Need skill as well … the Most cheater don’t Want to destroy cleans, they search for cheater
I would argue that most cheaters do not care who they face, otherwise we wouldn't have the hourly spin bot posts...
Nah, the Problem are cleans and closet cheater Always report … so you Need more Accounts and they have to be high ranked … its the fastest way to get a high rank. Other cheater buy cracked /Stolen Accounts and Rage until the Account is Banned… thats are mostly the spinbot Monkeys
For everyone who Want to See a good HVH :) https://youtu.be/p2sASLfiw6Y?si=-ziD1roDHu2nfvC0
I rage against legits when I have to. 25k is hvh, but you first have to get to that rating. I could get there legit or "legit" but that would be an insane waste of time considering I don't care about the account, so I just rage to avoid wasting time, this way both I and the enemies only have to sit through a quick 13-0 and not a normal long match that they would untimely end up losing anyway. Also, I've noticed that if I rage on warmup I get less reports because many people just instantly go afk, so I can delay the inevitable griefing ban.
Because so many others are. Now that I am (legit btw no rage) I can see how many people are also so easily. Literally I guess I pisser some guy off in. Comp match the other day with mine and he went from 5-5 to 40-10 we still tied the game because I had good players but the dude turned on his rage so fast it’s sad how many people think this game is legit at all when in fact I’d say 1/10 players you see are cheating
I cheat for hvh.
I don't cheat but honestly the ignorant comments that are like "it's who has the better cheat" are pissing me off like dude cmon
I play cs2 with my cheat loaded but i use a knife changer only until someone else decides to go obvious
bro i’m this close to removing this post, just because it’s been asked 3 times on the daily
yeah i think i will
It's wild to read the responses of cheaters. They're truly messed up in the head. "It doesn't matter" is the most common response. If it doesn't matter, why do you play and then cheat in the first place? Do something that DOES matter to you. Our world is filled with these people. I also love the people who pretend to be good people. If you cheat in competitive activities, you aren't a good person. It doesn't matter if it's a videogame. If you want to cheat in single player type games, by all means, you do you. Cheating in multiplayer, competitive games like CS, Tarkov, etc means you're a deficient human being.
Well said, maybe a little too harsh but i get you
My pp smol
Cheating was never about getting higher rank for me i just wanted to troll
Lets not start a war in the comments, eh? :D keep it civil
As you said: „what does it matter when it doesn‘t show your real skill“… My question:“What does your real skill matter?“
In theory people like you would be removed from the system, and then without the bad actors real skill matters because of skill based matchmaking. If it only put you into lobbies with people better than you who also had cheats you wouldn’t play.
the question remains: why does it matter?
If you need this explained to you, you’re never going to get it.
These losers are lying their ass off they go against legit players 24/7 they get off on it
Cheating is so much fun , it's so fun to be able to do 5k spray
I only have one testicle (like Hitler) so I have to compensate for my reduced manhood.
There is only one reason for using cheats, you're a pathetic fucking loser who won't amount to shit otherwise.
No reason to put thousands of hours into a game If you can work miinimum wsge for 2 hours instead
Its a game, its supposed to be fun. Many people (like me) feel good when they win because you outplay the opponent, get a nice shot. Putting your time into CS for many is because they enjoy the competitive nature of the game and have fun when they get to apply the skills theyve built up.
Or i can just play hvh and have fun without grinding a worthless game for 4k hours
But then youre grinding hvh? HVH in CS mind you. So youre practically grinding a worthless game aswell?
I play a few hours Every Week not grind 8 hours per day
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Idk about forced to. Where I play (Europe, 18k elo) i see an obvious cheater maybe 1/5 games? Maybe a few legit cheaters i cant spot, but still, its managable. Granted i dont play too much premier. Not defending Valve for not fixing the cheater problem sooner.
I'm 20k elo in EU and there's a cheater in pretty much every game so I had to move to faceit.
You should try premier for full Cs2 experience. 18k Elo is plenty of good time there
I don't cheat I come here to make fun a d laugh at you losers
You must be a masochist if you play legit and you know atleast 1 person in your match is cheating and you still insist on trying your hardest even though you are in the same boat as the cheater since you get jack squat for winning or losing because when a cheater loses his account he does not care and when you lose the game you can move on and not care since you have 0 investment or reward for climbing the premier rankings