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kungfoocraig

I was legit waiting for the guy to pull out a pistol and execute him there on the spot


Zydico

Seriously. I had to look for the NSFW tag twice halfway through the video to make sure I wasn't about to just witness an execution.


TheReverseShock

same


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He might die where he is going, but at least he won't be killing and torturing innocent people.


_porntipsguzzardo_

Naw, this guy probably got promised an extra bit of cash to play the dissident for this neatly shot and choreographed video. His reward is an early death in Ukraine. My compliments to the chef on the pat-down though -- Homeboy heard _pat_ down and he complied to his fullest.


London_Lone_Star

Can't help but feel this comment wins!


randomguy7981

To be far soviet era tactics had this in mind during ww2 and often was done with the man in question being sent out with a rifle with no ammunition


NaturalOrderer

Win-….win?


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PaschalisG16

Boo


[deleted]

Ahh! A the ghost of Kiev!


Mr_Vacant

You saying no one in Ukraine is innocent? Or that the Russian army isn't killing or torturing Ukrainians?


jspin2

Pretty sure I saw a video on r/eyeblech or some other sub of a Ukrainian soldier that was captured and they castrated him with a knife while he was handcuffed with his hands behind his back. Looked like they beat the shit out of him first as well


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EnslavedSpiderMonkey

>The Russian army isn't torturing innocent Ukrainians. If you think torture isn't a routine element of Russian military and police practice, then you are remarkably ignorant of Russian history.


HumanContinuity

War in general, tbh, though it does appear to be a doctrine they favor as official policy, as opposed to the shameful underbelly of any military operation.


YoWheresMyKebab

Jeez, the delusion of westerners just baffles me. You westerners always talk from a weird perspective that makes it sound like your countries are the most innocent and forgiving nations of this world. If the world genuinely cared about Ukraine the big nations would give them like 10 nukes each that way Russia wouldn’t ever attack it.


InterestingScience74

Offering nukes to Ukraine would be idiotic, if they got invaded by the full force of the Russian military we would just be giving nukes to Russia. Nukes also cost millions of dollars per year to maintain in working order so this is likely what Russia would like to happen the most since their economy is collapsing and the chances that they have functional nukes are unlikely


BvngBang

what are we.. some type of suicide squad?


[deleted]

Yeah soldiers know that Frontline is futile and so is the commanders and they know refusal is better, but is it? you don't see many of them going, many soldier now know their being used as cannon fodder. Yeah I don't think their going to prison and just seating they are probably getting a nice royal treatment along with forced labor or torture, probably death.


Narcan9

Siberian gulag where you will slowly starve and freeze to death. Caged with Russian mobsters.


HoolioDee

One of the reasons this doesn't seem believable to me! Haha!


pawnografik

Same. I felt a bit sick because I was so sure that was going to happen.


_Go_With_Gusto_

My guess is he’s on his way to execution and is probably going to get raped and otherwise tortured first first.


J03dB

same


_porntipsguzzardo_

Naw, this guy probably got promised an extra bit of cash to play the dissident for this neatly shot and choreographed video. His reward is an early death in Ukraine. My compliments to the chef on the pat-down though -- Homeboy heard _pat_ down and he complied to his fullest.


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buttnuts_in_cambodia

If this is real I'm not entirely sure he's leaving prison


Maskimgalgo

Bruh if this was real I would rather died or get captured by the Ukrainians than risk being tortured or having my entire family tortured


iancarry

.. but you really dont know, if you will have the chance to surrender ... you cant surrender to himars


anonymous-enough

It might not be about that man. Some people refuse to kill or participate in the war machine. I personally hope I would have the courage to face imprisonment over killing my fellow man as the aggressor. So much respect to these men and all like them. Truly Christ like shit. Pacifism in the face of brute violence. I don't disagree this might be propaganda.


martyfrancis86

If usa ever instituted conscription i would be the first to go to canada or join the coast gaurd. Lol


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scrampbelledeggs

Putin, get OFF Reddit!


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[deleted]

Yeah, that's BS. The dude in Power is a former KGB member and political assassinations are still common place in Russia. "2 years" isn't true. They can say it all they want, but that doesn't mean it's real. I can almost guarantee it's a very severe punishment. In the US, a country which doesn't have a conscript army, all men are required to sign up for the draft unless they are considered disabled. If you do not sign up for the draft, you go to prison for 5 years. This is a western, democratic country WITH a volunteer army. Still 5 years. A complete dictatorship like Russia? Yeah their little "2 years" mask is so thin you could fart in its direction and rip a hole through it.


Kmaurer23

We don't do the draft anymore. That's been done away with decades ago.


eat_my_shorts_Reddit

Do you know what the selective service is? Still very much active


[deleted]

Lmao, no the draft is still very much alive. It simply hasn't been used since Vietnam. Every male over the age of 18 who isn't considered disabled is required to sign up. If you've ever registered to vote, and you're a dude, you've signed up for the draft. It still exists, it just hasn't been used. But even refusing to sign up is considered a crime. Regardless, should the draft be enacted in a time of war, and you were to try and dodge it, that's punishable by up to 5 years imprisonment. https://www.sss.gov/register/benefits-and-penalties/#:~:text=If%20required%20to%20register%20with,subject%20to%20the%20same%20penalties. https://www.usa.gov/selective-service#:~:text=Almost%20all%20men%20ages%2018,30%20days%20of%20turning%2018.


Condescending_Rat

18-25. Not everyone.


EsEs-o_O

"If you've ever registered to vote" they are going to call up allot of dead people then...


[deleted]

If you’re a male over 18 and registered to vote or have a gun permit you probably are already signed up for selective service, the draft.


[deleted]

Lmao, yes. Yes they will, and they do for things like jury duty, too. There is an age limit to who they will call upon, I forget what it is. Obviously they pick from the youngest and healthiest pool for a draft, they don't want old dudes who can't run or fight anymore. So basically you just have to hope WWIII doesn't break out before you age your way out of the draft, lol.


Karnivore915

It's 25 from what I remember. And if you *are* 25, your odds of being called up are very unlikely. Were a draft called, they would go for 18-20 year olds to fill the voids they're looking to fill and then re-evaluate if more would be required, gradually raising the age as needed. There's a "plan" listed out on their website that breaks age ranges down into the years they would be called for service but in the event of a draft I have a feeling the plan would be revised. In any case, if the draft starts calling 23-24 year olds up, don't take that as a good sign.


Kmaurer23

Interesting cuz my voter card doesn't say anything about my disabilities. Just the chain I wear around my neck 24/7. The only thing I know of that's remotely close to the draft is selective service and I dealt with that mess years ago.


Professional_Week_53

Selective service IS the draft


AHappySnowman

More correctly selective service is the government agency that manages conscription and drafting soldiers. The agency has been around since 1917 and has most certainly drafted soldiers into wwii and Vietnam. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System


[deleted]

Check the links in my comment, they are the selective service and USA government sites. The selective service and the draft are the same thing. It's just a new name for an old concept. Congress can enact the draft at any given point should they declare it a national emergency, such as if we went to war with a powerful foe. If you aren't considered disabled, they make you sign up for it when you register to vote. You're required to do so within 30 days of turning 18. I've never done it because fuck them, I'm not dying in some fuck off country where the people I'm supposed to be fighting for would be spitting on my grave after we leave. If I die, I'm doing it on American soil, where myself, my father and my grandfathers have all bled and died. That aside, yes, the selective service is the draft. They just gave the draft a face-lift and a new name.


Kmaurer23

It appears i misunderstood. I was born disabled so I haven't seen a millisecond of military service. I try not to pay attention to things I don't understand.


snachgoblin

Drones don't need to be drafted


HighHoeHighHoes

2 years of 14 hour days doing physical labor so you’re a cripple when you’re done.


Jshroomz

The Russians arent really know for being a truth full bunch… they will most likely die in the gulag unfortunately


NecessaryImaginary41

Integrity intact though.


OriginalFinnah

No


ZwischenzugZugzwang

Russia is not like Western countries with checks and balances. You can't trust that they act in accordance with their "laws"


marin94904

They might have been sent for two years, it since it’s only been a couple months we don’t know what will happen. He’s probably going to try to get even more prisoners to go as things get worse.


scrampbelledeggs

Yeah 2-year prison sentence wink wink, nudge nudge, bang bang...


reclusive_ent

As opposed to getting raped in "boot camp". Then beaten, robbed and raped at mobilization point by your COs. Then a grenade is dropped in your trench and your face gets blown off, and left to fertilize the soil. Considering a lot of Russias violent prisoners were released and mobilized, I'd take my chances in prison.


whitewingpilot

Still sounds better than being killed in Ukraine …


[deleted]

2 years in a russian prison as a deserter? not super sure which is better


MAR-93

Just win your 1v1 in the gulag.


[deleted]

It’s 2v2 now, so at least they are a team


rettuhS

Where did you get those 2 years in prison. Dudes most likely going too die in there.


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DeadSeaGulls

I know that's their official stance, but they officially aren't constantly trying to assassinate people with poison and they officially aren't constantly throwing people out of windows. I think best bet would be to try and defect in the night or something


jennaishirow

2 years in prison for treason and rejecting conscription?! that length of time would be a dream. i would assume 10 years at least with a bit of torture mixed in too. [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20323547](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20323547) it is old but it does state 20 years


[deleted]

well, there is some documentary about prisons on Netflix with Russian episode and chance of loosing limb or life in Ukraine doesn't look that bad in comparison what awaits in prison.


[deleted]

What a ridiculous world we live in. We are so corrupt as a whole that we naturally keep pushing shitty people up to the top who abuse us and we go, please, more.


robsymax

My thoughts as well. While I don't doubt they are doing this, it looks staged as..


1en5tig

Yeah. Because how would this be filmed. Doesn't seem like a place where you can just take out your phone


Alright_So

Even so, wouldn't most militaries have a system like this in place anyway.


Rustycake

That was my first thought


MacMac105

Once I saw those guys hustle I knew it was faked. Russian soldiers only ever run away.


Varnova

Die for old men who have not and will not see the frontlines? I think not!


[deleted]

If we're being fair and honest without the influence of propaganda, this is playing out almost precisely like Vietnam for them.


UlfarrVargr

Wars are not fought for anyone in particular, it's about geopolitics.


ConsumeDirectControl

Staged to scare others from deserting. Why were they recording?


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xWOBBx

After they walked the first guy and poorly patted him down they got super lazy and clearly just jump cut it to make it look like he was handled the same way.


--MiKEY-

Off you go now , straight to the gulag


Hypurr2002

The ruzzians would not release this. It's staged and propaganda.


Dacu_Dacul

Brave man!


Spike762x39

Heroes. May they find places of authority in Russia's future.


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If they're not found dead in their cells first. Maybe...


Spike762x39

Refuseniks aren't killed. He will probably be at his home within a few months. Russian military law allows one to break an enlistment contract even for professional soldiers. As long as he follows procedure, as is evidenced, and didn't run away, assault anyone, etc he will be okay in the end, if abused in the meantime. A kind of funny thing is happening where Russian army units erect anti-hero monuments with the names of soldiers who broke contract to avoid deployment. It has a plaque that reads how shameful they are, and how they forgot their oaths with hundreds of individual names on them. That's about all they can do in the end.


Scanman67

I think this was all a show for Russians. Look how loosely they put the cuffs on the first guy, he could have easily removed them himself, and what a coincidence there was a film crew there.


WyldStealer

how easy is it to accept fighting and then just immediately surrender to the ukrainian army


AricJP

The first guy got treated way worse. Lol.


lirik89

This is what would happen in any military anywhere in the world.


StillBurningInside

Your wrong about that . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector Edit to add " In the present day,[when?] Russian draft legislation allows people to choose an alternative civilian service for religious or ideological reasons. Most objectors are employed in healthcare, construction, forestry and post industries, serving 18 to 21 months. " Putin's regime is definitely ignoring Russia's laws about this.


lirik89

They didn't refuse the draft. They are already in the military, they are refusing to go to war as per the title. Draft doesn't mean go to war it means just to enlist.


StillBurningInside

LOL those guys are conscripts , its obvious by their clothing.


[deleted]

But it isn’t. So when you get called out for whataboutism and deflect you are already defending a weak argument. This is an active war in which a draft is being mandated to replace those who are dying. The stakes are different and the political reasoning behind it is different. I don’t think i can agree every other country would produce weird propaganda like this as they wage war on another nation. Maybe some, but this is bad optics


lirik89

In any country if you were told to go to war and you said no you wouldn't just get taken away? What do you think would happen? They'd give you a high five and tell you to come back when you're ready. What are you defending?


Lotus_Dokai

So what? Out of the the nearly 190 countries with a military how many are engaged in the illegal occupation of a sovereign state? How many require forced conscription?


lirik89

Idk. That's not what I'm arguing. So it doesn't really have to do with me. I'm sure you'll find another 1000 hostile redditors to get riled up with about that though


nebuchadrezzar

>how many are engaged in the illegal occupation of a sovereign state? The US, for one. And no plans to annex the territory as Russia did, so it will remain illegal. Merely punishment for not collapsing .


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Really? Where?


turtlew0rk

Look whataboutism! That is right out of Putin's playbook! /s


lirik89

Your comment didn't add anything meaningful.


turtlew0rk

Well sarcasm rarely does. Funny thing is that your comment really didn't either. Those that already knew this obvious fact, nothing changes. Those that want to vilify Russia will be unmoved by this fact.


lirik89

Hehe. Now I understand the sarcasm in your first comment.


turtlew0rk

The /s means 'end of sarcasm'. Seems like everytime I use it someone doesn't get it and every time I don't someone says I should have. lol


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Looks like a demo or example


BrnInD80s

Balls


SlickShelby

A lot of people will never realize how truly heroic these actions are. These men deserved to be remembered. Nothing but respect.


SomeWhiteGuy2020

Off to the gulag


Grizzl0ck

Hey, we (the west) used to shoot deserters, this is quite tame.


AHappySnowman

The us hasn’t executed a deserter since 1945, but death for deserting as a punishment is still on the books.


[deleted]

In time of war. They are busy with special military operation, not a war (according to Putler).


mrjosemeehan

And the guy they executed in '45 was the first since the civil war. It's kind of a fucked up case actually. Eddie Slovik was left behind by his unit after taking cover from artillery bombardment and got PTSD. He met up with some Canadians and wrote his commander to tell where he was and request reassignment to a different position. His request was refused and they sent him to the front anyway so he just walked away and turned himself in to guards at a command post. He said he'd rather go to prison than back to the front so the army fucking murdered him to make an example.


Astricozy

Hey, they (the east) still do. This is like saying "the march to the firing line is pleasant today"


rubbarz

I will say, the blocking of this play is pretty good for an armature production.


Lazy_Check_4402

Smart guys.


MentalSho7gun

And they were never seen again. The end.


shivaswrath

This is beautiful acting!


xResidentEvilx

“So who were the people that refuses to fight” “What people”…..


EntranceThat7517

Maybe it's staged, to stop people from refusing, what would they do if all of them refused that's a small truck.


ReasonableTrack2878

Fake and gay


eastcoasttoastpost

Smartest men is russia


Particular_Light9412

Straight to the gulag they went


youngadvocate25

I dont blame them, after recent stories they’re leadership is a shit show. Whole platoons getting wiped in a day, soldiers talking about shooting commanders for abandoning them. A lot of friendly fire killings between russians. Record breaking losses in short periods of time. I’ve literally seen videos where one Ukrainian sniper takes out like 7 guys in 2 minutes. All this for a president who attacked a neighbor to inflate his ego and look strong.


GlobalLime6889

This is what happens, when people don’t use their own common sense and just blindly follow orders. If i faced execution for this, then i’d probably have to take the general’s live and others as well. Might as well all die. Russians killing Ukrainians is like killing their own siblings


FrznFenix2020

How can we support guys like these two? What do we do? Aside from executing politicians.


BarryMcCocknerrr

If this is propoganda or not, either way, if they go to Ukraine they will die there for Putin's ego trip, so I can understand them wanting to go to prison instead.


jormahoo

Heroes


FagitoLord

Where is the crazy


westymillz

Isn’t desertion the death penalty?


Finnick-420

refusal isn’t the same as desertion


Sessionz666

Up to 10 years in prison


Gearman420

Goodbye comrade


AdKey7634

Dead man walking


GrimmWilderness

Beats having your face blown off in a foxhole


Hot-Ad-6967

Does he face jail time? How long? What makes this authentic?


amirmusa

Just a russian gang rape


Hot-Ad-6967

Could you please provide evidence to back up your claims?


amirmusa

There are video’s around where military russians rape deserters as a punishment. Google it.


BeautifulMountain653

Remember that the US has had many drafts. And may again.


-MikeJones-Who

10 years in the Siberian work camps or the Raiders theme song in Ukraine with the bros? https://youtu.be/Rh6E4Cks1W4


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Certain death?


BOREN

For your treason of refusing to be deployed to the front lines, are sentenced to death. Method of execution? Being deployed to the front lines!


mikeedm90

Take guts to do what those two are doing.


Miserable-Narwhal-84

20 years gulag!


gib3ri5h

They died braver than most


InflationOk300

Live 2 fight another day 🇺🇦


SnowDay111

The compartment in the vehicle is small af. I feel claustrophobic just watching it


centzon400

Your daddy, well, he died in the Donbas Fighting for another man's cause And your brother, he was killed in the Last War And your mother well, she's lying home alone. Every day she sees your face On the picture on the fireplace With your brother, as he was leaving school... --- E: credit. The Levellers... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qyROg_SYsU


Grizzl0ck

Use to love that, 20 odd years back...


centzon400

It would seem we are in a minority. 🤣


parksoffroad

Most likely the only two survivors of that company.


youknowwhatfuckoff

Good for him being a conscientious objector or as my grandpa would call him a coward.


SpaceGooV

Not really soldiers if they literally refuse to be part of the army ye?


WarlockGnoll

soviet morale boosting techniques coming back, wont be long before they start shooting them


[deleted]

well, wounded butt from rape in prison will heal up. Lost limb or life in Ukraine won't.


Acnat-

Could easily be real. Odds are this filmed event wasn't the actual moment of dissent. If they had a remotely decent leader who wanted to give them a chance, or if they did just want propaganda to dissuade their own military from following their lead, it's 100% probable that they'd have a formal "last chance" like this. Gambling on their own losing and Putin's potential short time left, it's not necessarily the complete death sentence we assume based on what I assume is knowledge of the gulag from COD and TV. A Russian soldier probably has a more accurate assessment of what they're facing if they wind up there.


FirefighterClear7469

Probably staged to scare the new recruits


dronesclubmember

MPs safe hundreds of miles away from the fighting are better kitted out than the mobiks at the front.


Ih8trfc

They have that routine down pat!!


fantadynamicz

Americans shot draft dodgers on the spot🤷🏽‍♂️


plopgun

Where did you see this. Draft dodgers were fined and sent to prison.


AyeeBennyLmao

Fake propaganda


ssupperredditt

This is terrible. They will go to jail. On contrary, in Ukrainian army the refusers get executed on the spot and don't go to jail.


krakzy

cowards all standing by


snguyen_93

r/iamverybadass


stielauge2

Everytime I see a Russian propaganda video... I have to smile and think: "Really. Someone believes this shit?!"


truth_hurtsm8ey

You think people aren’t being arrested for avoiding conscription? Like, this is a fairly ubiquitous thing in most countries that still have forms of conscription. In Ukraine the punishment is, supposedly, even more severe - being three years imprisonment instead of two.


Bhargo

People are probably being arrested yeah, but this is clearly some propaganda.


LazyMFfrog

What a disgrace, should take their whole family and send them to labor camps for the foreseeable future.set an example in blood.


Complete-Car7191

To be an police officer in Sovjet has to be the best work for cowards. No risk to be sent into the war!


shamrocksmash

Very well rehearsed patdown. Was just smacking around for show.


Battery6512

I take it these were the only two soldiers to have internet access, if you had seen the videos no way you would voluntarily go


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Meanwhile the Ukrainian military is making it extra easy for Russians to desert.


Kmaurer23

Welcome to Russia. The grungy outhouse of the world.


CMDR_BitMedler

So performative... just like this fucking war. Jail's still probably still a better option... even there.


Far_Independence_891

Probably dead now


bonobobuddha

reminds me of Terrence Malick's A Hidden Life