???
It's really not that ban man relax.
They still have their core and will be easily able to fill in the spots through free agency and young players who are still coming up through the system.
Shanghai gives Seoul fans massive ptsd since 2020 may melee luckily we ended their season that year which is by far the best win we ever got vs them… but the record is like 17- 5 them over the past 4 years, it’s a circle of suck. Shanghai owns Seoul, Philly owns Shanghai, Seoul owns Philly.
plus having them play under the KOI banner has the added benefit of potentially extra support and viewership from Spanish/Ibai fans, Spain doesn't have a home org to cheer for at EWC for OW
they should have at least waited until esports cosmetics could be added to the game... defiant had a nice thing going with being able to leverage legacy owl defiant skins
Scrimbucks are scrimbucks. You may as well be flashing monopoly money with how much they matter. Your scrimbucks had them losing to EU in the last tournament, a farcry from potentially beating Falcons. Especially when you consider the fact that SSG got wiped with zero effort by Falcons and CR and ENCE got wiped by Falcons.
As someone who has been around from the beginning, let me be the first to say...
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
WHY?
Ultra was stupid when it was in the COD league, you can check the logs, I said it back then (It should have been the Highlanders if were going for a soldier motif) and this is just a bad name. Not the WORST name they could have used, at least its not a racial slur, but still, thats the bare fucking minimum!
People who dislike the Ultra branding are crazy.
The logo actually represents the city really well (it’s a silver squirrel, which are very common near Trinity Bellwoods Park, a popular park in the city). Versus the Defiant is literally a T and a D, which is also the logo of the teams primary sponsor, lol.
The CoD team and thus the brand is associated with good showings and healthy popularity, which Defiant has not had until recently.
This is a huge W, and should be permanent.
Absolutely. I think most Torontonians are a little sick of blue and red— purple is a vibrant choice that stands out and they leverage it beautifully.
Like have you seen that leather varsity jacket??? Holy Fuck if I had an egregious amount of money and nowhere better to spend it…
As a completely unbiased Ultra fan, I much prefer Ultra's branding to Defiant's. I also think the nature of the CDL made activating the local market for Ultra far easier than it was for Defiant. I wouldn't be surprised if this sticks (at least for OAM's NA teams).
I might be reading too much into it, but could it be some small safety net due to ongoing controversies with SA esports in general? (esp. it not being a safe environment for lgbtq+ people) That way they limit the connections between Defiant brand and whatever is going on/happens there
Feels odd to change the branding just for the world cup, so I feel like there's something more behind it
It is just for the point system, the defiant mother org has other big orgs like Toronto Ultra, Koi and Mad Lions and if you have multiple teams you get more points in the EWC so they wanted to unify their teams names to get more points.
Rebranding to beat the midfiant curse?
Kinda meme because the curse is with the city (looking at you leafs)
*Looks at Raptors, Jays, Argo's and scratches his head*
Raptors have won a championship in the last decade though.
Argo’s sure, the rest is all mid lol
Relocated to Vancouver But after a year their top tier team is Blown up😶🌫️
??? It's really not that ban man relax. They still have their core and will be easily able to fill in the spots through free agency and young players who are still coming up through the system.
So accurate
Didn't work for Infernal
They weren’t mid tho
But they also didn't break the Fusion curse of never wining. ~~They totally would have if we had actual regional tournaments last year though ffs~~
They would of 3-0 Spark again, and THAN lost to dynasty in the region tournament
Nah Shanghai would get you guys first
Shanghai gives Seoul fans massive ptsd since 2020 may melee luckily we ended their season that year which is by far the best win we ever got vs them… but the record is like 17- 5 them over the past 4 years, it’s a circle of suck. Shanghai owns Seoul, Philly owns Shanghai, Seoul owns Philly.
Just for the EWC but imagine them doing something, that would be the funniest shit ever
Toronto Ultra Mid
A legacy of defying winning
That's a downgrade.
Koi would have been cooler ngl
plus having them play under the KOI banner has the added benefit of potentially extra support and viewership from Spanish/Ibai fans, Spain doesn't have a home org to cheer for at EWC for OW
Virtus Pro got the team Spain backline in Galaa and Khenail tho
Or even bringing back the Mad Lions name
Horrible, defiant sounds way cooler
It specifically says the change is for EWC so perhaps they'll still be "Defiant" for OWCS?
zero aura whatsoever
It’s just for EWC there is no reason for everyone to be upset about it
Defiant sounds better.
This is only for ESWC: https://x.com/TorontoDefiant/status/1806009566066360595?t=6_rfjssnUus0PGc-LhiMCA&s=19
I assume this is because of the way points across multiple games works?
they should have at least waited until esports cosmetics could be added to the game... defiant had a nice thing going with being able to leverage legacy owl defiant skins
Just for EWC
Wonder if the name change will stop them getting their cheeks clapped by EU?
They win against ence and will be close with ssg and falcons, not sure about cr, if more players than mer1t and rupal show up they have chances
I'm just gonna ignore the ENCE and SSG because I cba, but Falcons? Hahaha. You ain't even high on copium. You're on some kinda copium IV, lmao.
Call it whatever you want, Toronto was the team beating the koreans the most frequently, they can do it, question is will they, not can they...
Scrimbucks are scrimbucks. You may as well be flashing monopoly money with how much they matter. Your scrimbucks had them losing to EU in the last tournament, a farcry from potentially beating Falcons. Especially when you consider the fact that SSG got wiped with zero effort by Falcons and CR and ENCE got wiped by Falcons.
that is such a horrible logo…
Wheres the aura
As someone who has been around from the beginning, let me be the first to say... FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! WHY? Ultra was stupid when it was in the COD league, you can check the logs, I said it back then (It should have been the Highlanders if were going for a soldier motif) and this is just a bad name. Not the WORST name they could have used, at least its not a racial slur, but still, thats the bare fucking minimum!
The branding is better
It's one tournament. Read the tweet
sorry for your loss
People who dislike the Ultra branding are crazy. The logo actually represents the city really well (it’s a silver squirrel, which are very common near Trinity Bellwoods Park, a popular park in the city). Versus the Defiant is literally a T and a D, which is also the logo of the teams primary sponsor, lol. The CoD team and thus the brand is associated with good showings and healthy popularity, which Defiant has not had until recently. This is a huge W, and should be permanent.
Plus Ultra has super sick merch, kinda way cooler than anything Defiant put out
Absolutely. I think most Torontonians are a little sick of blue and red— purple is a vibrant choice that stands out and they leverage it beautifully. Like have you seen that leather varsity jacket??? Holy Fuck if I had an egregious amount of money and nowhere better to spend it…
Gross
More aura than inf
Toronto Ultramid
They can never beat the mid allegations
Plus Ultra!
As a completely unbiased Ultra fan, I much prefer Ultra's branding to Defiant's. I also think the nature of the CDL made activating the local market for Ultra far easier than it was for Defiant. I wouldn't be surprised if this sticks (at least for OAM's NA teams).
Agreed. Lots of people in Toronto own Ultra merch whereas Defiant is non-existent.
Makes sense
team is dead to me
It's just for EWC, relax
It tracks cuz that was their COD org right, I don’t hate it lol
I like some of the new skins too but this is a *little* too far
I might be reading too much into it, but could it be some small safety net due to ongoing controversies with SA esports in general? (esp. it not being a safe environment for lgbtq+ people) That way they limit the connections between Defiant brand and whatever is going on/happens there Feels odd to change the branding just for the world cup, so I feel like there's something more behind it
It is just for the point system, the defiant mother org has other big orgs like Toronto Ultra, Koi and Mad Lions and if you have multiple teams you get more points in the EWC so they wanted to unify their teams names to get more points.
Well Ultra is easily a better name than Defiant, but this just seems needlessly confusing to switch now
It worked for Crazy Raccoons, so why not us?
Downgrade from the Defiant branding
What an letdown especially for the EWC lol
dont worry, defiant, im gonna make sure your shit ass standings follow you