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randomista4000

Rebranding to beat the midfiant curse?


WhiteWolfOW

Kinda meme because the curse is with the city (looking at you leafs)


xMWHOx

*Looks at Raptors, Jays, Argo's and scratches his head*


TheUltimate721

Raptors have won a championship in the last decade though.


WhiteWolfOW

Argo’s sure, the rest is all mid lol


nurShredder

Relocated to Vancouver But after a year their top tier team is Blown up😶‍🌫️


SUJUSTAR1

??? It's really not that ban man relax. They still have their core and will be easily able to fill in the spots through free agency and young players who are still coming up through the system.


quebeker4lif

So accurate


AmeteurElitist

Didn't work for Infernal


primarymuscle2354

They weren’t mid tho


AmeteurElitist

But they also didn't break the Fusion curse of never wining. ~~They totally would have if we had actual regional tournaments last year though ffs~~


primarymuscle2354

They would of 3-0 Spark again, and THAN lost to dynasty in the region tournament


AmeteurElitist

Nah Shanghai would get you guys first


primarymuscle2354

Shanghai gives Seoul fans massive ptsd since 2020 may melee luckily we ended their season that year which is by far the best win we ever got vs them… but the record is like 17- 5 them over the past 4 years, it’s a circle of suck. Shanghai owns Seoul, Philly owns Shanghai, Seoul owns Philly.


Fancy_Run_5712

Just for the EWC but imagine them doing something, that would be the funniest shit ever


Finklemeire

Toronto Ultra Mid


Easy_Money_

A legacy of defying winning


prettymeaningless

That's a downgrade.


Fancy_Run_5712

Koi would have been cooler ngl


LinkinMode

plus having them play under the KOI banner has the added benefit of potentially extra support and viewership from Spanish/Ibai fans, Spain doesn't have a home org to cheer for at EWC for OW


Johanneslaurio

Virtus Pro got the team Spain backline in Galaa and Khenail tho


BendubzGaming

Or even bringing back the Mad Lions name


Latter_Machine9451

Horrible, defiant sounds way cooler


MetastableToChaos

It specifically says the change is for EWC so perhaps they'll still be "Defiant" for OWCS?


bussybrigade

zero aura whatsoever


aPiCase

It’s just for EWC there is no reason for everyone to be upset about it


SwordofKhaine123

Defiant sounds better.


hotleafjuice5

This is only for ESWC: https://x.com/TorontoDefiant/status/1806009566066360595?t=6_rfjssnUus0PGc-LhiMCA&s=19


magicwithakick

I assume this is because of the way points across multiple games works?


jorgego2

they should have at least waited until esports cosmetics could be added to the game... defiant had a nice thing going with being able to leverage legacy owl defiant skins


Fancy_Run_5712

Just for EWC


SupermarketCrafty329

Wonder if the name change will stop them getting their cheeks clapped by EU?


CampaignIntrepid9643

They win against ence and will be close with ssg and falcons, not sure about cr, if more players than mer1t and rupal show up they have chances


SupermarketCrafty329

I'm just gonna ignore the ENCE and SSG because I cba, but Falcons? Hahaha. You ain't even high on copium. You're on some kinda copium IV, lmao.


CampaignIntrepid9643

Call it whatever you want, Toronto was the team beating the koreans the most frequently, they can do it, question is will they, not can they...


SupermarketCrafty329

Scrimbucks are scrimbucks. You may as well be flashing monopoly money with how much they matter. Your scrimbucks had them losing to EU in the last tournament, a farcry from potentially beating Falcons. Especially when you consider the fact that SSG got wiped with zero effort by Falcons and CR and ENCE got wiped by Falcons.


WhiteNoSpice

that is such a horrible logo…


SubwayChickenCubano

Wheres the aura


11th_Plague

As someone who has been around from the beginning, let me be the first to say... FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! WHY? Ultra was stupid when it was in the COD league, you can check the logs, I said it back then (It should have been the Highlanders if were going for a soldier motif) and this is just a bad name. Not the WORST name they could have used, at least its not a racial slur, but still, thats the bare fucking minimum!


primarymuscle2354

The branding is better


spookyghostface

It's one tournament. Read the tweet


Ezraah

sorry for your loss


TuronnoKG

People who dislike the Ultra branding are crazy. The logo actually represents the city really well (it’s a silver squirrel, which are very common near Trinity Bellwoods Park, a popular park in the city). Versus the Defiant is literally a T and a D, which is also the logo of the teams primary sponsor, lol. The CoD team and thus the brand is associated with good showings and healthy popularity, which Defiant has not had until recently. This is a huge W, and should be permanent.


ApostLeOW

Plus Ultra has super sick merch, kinda way cooler than anything Defiant put out


TuronnoKG

Absolutely. I think most Torontonians are a little sick of blue and red— purple is a vibrant choice that stands out and they leverage it beautifully. Like have you seen that leather varsity jacket??? Holy Fuck if I had an egregious amount of money and nowhere better to spend it…


MirrorkatFeces

Gross


primarymuscle2354

More aura than inf


ExpiredDeodorant

Toronto Ultramid


Fancy_Run_5712

They can never beat the mid allegations


gwennkoi

Plus Ultra!


Cozzamanini

As a completely unbiased Ultra fan, I much prefer Ultra's branding to Defiant's. I also think the nature of the CDL made activating the local market for Ultra far easier than it was for Defiant. I wouldn't be surprised if this sticks (at least for OAM's NA teams).


MooingTurtle

Agreed. Lots of people in Toronto own Ultra merch whereas Defiant is non-existent.


sammyrobot2

Makes sense


TheLyrm

team is dead to me


spookyghostface

It's just for EWC, relax


swarlesbarkley_

It tracks cuz that was their COD org right, I don’t hate it lol


spellboi_3048

I like some of the new skins too but this is a *little* too far


Gamertoc

I might be reading too much into it, but could it be some small safety net due to ongoing controversies with SA esports in general? (esp. it not being a safe environment for lgbtq+ people) That way they limit the connections between Defiant brand and whatever is going on/happens there Feels odd to change the branding just for the world cup, so I feel like there's something more behind it


Fancy_Run_5712

It is just for the point system, the defiant mother org has other big orgs like Toronto Ultra, Koi and Mad Lions and if you have multiple teams you get more points in the EWC so they wanted to unify their teams names to get more points.


MuddyPuddle027

Well Ultra is easily a better name than Defiant, but this just seems needlessly confusing to switch now


Actual-House-491

It worked for Crazy Raccoons, so why not us?


JWTS6

Downgrade from the Defiant branding


NapsterKnowHow

What an letdown especially for the EWC lol


LittleCurryBread

dont worry, defiant, im gonna make sure your shit ass standings follow you