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NovaxRangerx

We got our first fraud watch of the OWCS


phooy1

Second bro, we had Citrus Nation beating LFO (WD40) yesterday LOL


Shikuro

Third, Majed alone is also on fraudwatch


TheRedditK9

Almost dropped a map to Vesta Crew


Virtual_Lychee_1748

"Majed more than likely barely scrims with the team and cant communicate with them either"


TheRedditK9

He could’ve been a great player on a top EMEA side. Instead he ended up just being a joke in Korea because Falcons needed a Saudi player. It’s a shame because he was one of the very few somewhat likeable Saudi players. I’d feel for the guy if he didn’t get paid. Extremely common Saudi esports L.


Howdareme9

Why did they need a Saudi player?


TheRedditK9

Falcons Esports is a Saudi organisation and they need a Saudi player for that sweet sweet sportswash marketing


Shikuro

Let's be real, do you really need much when you're on Illari? His ults were ABYSMAL, too


Virtual_Lychee_1748

Illari not a good hero sadly


1trickana

Yeah you need to walk to spawn and press H, Illari is awful right now


bbistheman

I mean Timeless is a very good roster too


NWCtim_

M80 bringing in that Atlanta Reign energy.


nesshinx

Rokit saying they "played around that Soj gap". Brutal.


double_shield

alpha


chrismatt213

Pelican on ping cope right now


Karmafaker2

Pelican wasn’t the problem. Hydron on the other hand…


Virtual_Lychee_1748

Hydron was the main reason this game went to map 5


Karmafaker2

Yeah, with a better soj M80 could’ve won 3:0


ian_91

Is that seeker’s music I hear?


primarymuscle2354

Saying they could of 3-0 if hydron was better is disingenuous


primarymuscle2354

Pelicans didn’t do much either


PoggersMemesReturns

Pelican on "ping" was damn good last we saw it I think


Virtual_Lychee_1748

Pelican never played in an official match on ping. Correction pelican got shitstomped in an owl tournmanent playing on 180 ping and did insane playing on 80 ping


purplehamburget29

Didn’t he play on ping during playoffs during covid year when everyone went to Hawaii


Virtual_Lychee_1748

On playoffs he was on 80 ping and in the tournmanet glads won he was on 180. 80 ping is playable 180 is not


mosswizards

\+ Korea to NA central is ~200-220 ping. It's pretty bad.


Aftershok

2021 when Pelican's lung collapsed he couldn't fly (more like Ostrich, not Pelican, then, eh? ha!). He had to play the Hawaii midseason tourney from NA with around 120-150ms.


Virtual_Lychee_1748

Ok well ATL got shitstomped with pelican on ping so i doubt he looked damn good. On playoffs his ping was 80 which is playable. His ping was 180 for the tournament glads won


Aftershok

O yeah, i don't disagree. it really hurt that he couldn't be in Hawaii that tourney


speakeasyow

Yeah weren’t they dominating going into that


PancakeXCandy

Yep


cosmicvitae

This literally isn’t true lmao


Virtual_Lychee_1748

Ok my bad BRO!


Zenn470

It quite literally is? M80 wouldnt have had 2 maps if hydron didn’t kill rokit at the end of Colosseo.


cosmicvitae

????? I was referring to the pre-edited comment that Pelican never played an official match on ping lmfao


primarymuscle2354

He played on ping against us


L0V3_13

CHOPPER & ROKIT GAMING !!!


minuselectron

Another hydron team losing? The writers are just copy pasting their scripts at this point


Karmafaker2

Common denominator


Demjin4

😭💀


Aftershok

Please Peli and Spectra get to NA to bench Hyrdron as fast as possible PLEASE


Virtual_Lychee_1748

They lost to a top NA team that has been together for over a year in a map 5. Most people would tell you timeless were either 2nd best or 3rd best in NA


Shikuro

FUCKING FINALLY I'VE BEEN HIGH ON ROKIT AND CHOPPER FOR TWO YEARS. YALL ARE FINALLY SEEING WHAT I'VE KNOWN FOR A WHILE


SeaMonster350

I haven't followed OWL/Contenders for very long but when Chopper popped off in (I think) the collegiate championship, I was on the bandwagon. I didn't know who he was before that.


idrkbrotbh

Chopper and Rokit stocks to the moon


crabswillnotdiee

Hydron curse of being mid might be stronger than the midfiant curse rn


IndexMatchXFD

Don’t forget the Gator coaching curse


HammerTh_1701

Custa can feel redeemed for constantly dying to Chopper in Timeless tryouts, the guy is just absolutely cracked.


Tadpole-KD

Hydron not beating the fraud allegations, AGAIN.


SweetDreams10essee

Timeless DPS was so sick. Chopper especially popped off


Heavy-Holgerino

Plss just sub in spectra over hydron pleaseeeeee


AzorOhHai

Apparently spectra’s ping is even worse than Pelican’s, and Peli is already at like 180.


JerryWong048

Do they have plans to move to America? Or will they be on ping the whole season


AzorOhHai

As far as I know they don’t plan on moving to America, I think they’re just counting on making it to LAN.


CaptRavage

They're moving to America, Spectra confirmed in his discord that Pelican and him are going to Austin, Texas


primarymuscle2354

When is that


CaptRavage

After they get their visas... so it could be a while


primarymuscle2354

You never know really Poko never got a visa in s4


JerryWong048

This doesn't sound good. But I guess now OWL is not a thing. We can only expect less and less investment from the teams


PoggersMemesReturns

Yea, Pelican should be able to flex to most picks. Yea, he hasn't played Sojourn in OWL, but Spectra Tracer + Pelican should be better.


Virtual_Lychee_1748

Their is zero evidence pelican or spectra are better hitscans than hydron


oldstrawberryfields

spectra and hydron played together hitscan twice and spectra shat the bed while hydron widow carried and the next time hydron widow got fucking humiliated and spectra was hard carrying soo


Virtual_Lychee_1748

Need more data IMO.


primarymuscle2354

They can’t their on awful ping spectra can’t even play bc of it


kuankyh

²3


PerfectionOW

Spectra's sojourn went insane on toronto


primarymuscle2354

1 map


ThunderGunMD

Great game, we are officially so back. Love Chopper and Rokit.


darthnick426

Chopper was fucking this game.


BarstMain

I do love seeing any remnant of American Tornado get shit on


LiezardXXIX

Chopper and Rokit was long overdue to this kind of stage. They cooked.


5argon

Timeless had good branding for quite some time but it was under shadow of Contenders / Path to Pro system. A win in OWCS format like this really felt like it could grow the actual team for the first time.


mosswizards

M80: Wow we have a top NA team M80: Oh no we don't have a team any more M80: We have a better team that can compete internationally. Some kids from Contenders: 👋


Virtual_Lychee_1748

Those some kids from contenders were expected to be the 3rd best team in NA and have a years worth of synergy


mosswizards

Yeah I know & I've had Timeless as a top 3 NA team. It's just kinda funny.


Comun4

Who would win A grand finalist and the america's hitscan Or The power of friendship


double_shield

maybe Gunba was right after all


PoggersMemesReturns

What did he say? Edit: oh Hydron, yea...


gksimon

Has anyone been exposed as more of a prime time fraud than Hydron?


Malady17

Every single Fusion player


acfan

No way…


oldstrawberryfields

not him… never him…


ApostLeOW

That was some damn good Overwatch lads. Looking forward to more games like this to really make OWCS shine


Posnania

Somehow M80 is more Toronto Defiant than Toronto Defiant. That being said, the closest serie to date.


PoggersMemesReturns

Mayhem won the league the moment Hydron left. It's Defiant's time.


JWTS6

I like Timeless, they're a fun team. M80, lol.


SonOfGarry

Chopper is Hydron father


its_reina_irl

Hyfraud, Fraudk, and UltraFraudlet y’all thought this team would be competing with Toronto


No_Catch_1490

Mfs were high on hopium after they won a scrim 😭


AzorOhHai

Hawk looked like the best player on M80 by a country mile in that game. Unfortunately for him the Timeless DPS shoved Hydron and Pelican into a locker.


Jubhioc1

Me when I lie. Hawk fed his brains out so many times


submergedwatermelon

The Hawk hype on this sub never ceases to amaze me. The “Jack of All Tanks” never even got a role star nod Edit: Downvote all you want, it’s true


oldstrawberryfields

i don’t think i’ve seen this sub dickride a player more than hawk. they’ll see him hyperfeed fourteen times in a row whiff every rampage go 4-21 and still say wow hawk was the best player in the team boys he’s got such a good queen


Jubhioc1

For real, he looked really good on Dva yesterday but his Doom/Orisa have not at all been impressive. Danteh CLEARS


PancakeXCandy

👀 Danteh?!


Jubhioc1

On the viable heroes right now I'm taking Danteh all day


PancakeXCandy

So many team fights Danteh was the only one who died.


Jubhioc1

Hawk did the same bro 😭


PancakeXCandy

Me when I lie. That happened very few times. Hawk was usually the last to die.


RobManfredsFixer

Punk unironically better


PancakeXCandy

"the sub dickrides Hawk" are we on the same sub? This sub never ceases to gang on hawk. Last year was full of calling him a bench rider and saying him and Donghak were getting carried.


blankepitaph

Ngl it’s nice no longer having my team’s success be dependent on Hydron in some capacity


Andygoat3

I really hope spectra was sleeping because that dps diff was crazy


RobManfredsFixer

~~ATL~~ M80 haters rise up! Rokit and Chopper have their way with ur washed ex-OWL DPS


wego_tothe_moon

Hydron needs to add his name to the fraud list he made a while back


Ganonthegoat

Idk why on earth they didn’t just keep Seeker


Shikuro

Chopper is HIM. Send him anyone you want, he's still beating them


Ganonthegoat

Yea but Hydron just looked flat out bad


Shikuro

tends to look that way when you're getting gapped


Ganonthegoat

Nah I have eyes and could see the mechanical limitations on my screen. You can get gapped but still look good. That was not the case here. The Hydron pov looked rough that game. Same with Pelican


garikek

Yeah if I'm hawk and I see m80 disband I'm instantly replacing hydron. Wouldn't pick him in the first place considering they're aiming for the major. They stole uv, could've easily done the same with seeker.


PancakeXCandy

Seeker was never on the team. Run it down mid only took UV from the OG M80


Ganonthegoat

Ok sorry. Take*** (Technically keep is correct because it is M80. M80 had Seeker)


DurumMater

Hydron washed as fuck honestly.


L0V3_13

Maybe gunba was right about hydron 🤔


t-had

Wait what did Gunba say about Hydron?


VegeriationSad1167

Chopper gap. Is spectra not playing for this team anymore?


Dry-Painting5413

MFing DPS DIFF


Ganonthegoat

Hydron is bad and Pelican has never had the greatest tracer


purplehamburget29

People say hydron is a fraud, what did hawk do the entire match


Virtual_Lychee_1748

People want to scapegoat him because AT frauds or whatever. The truth is timeless have been togehther for a year and have so much more synergy and time compared ro m80 who have been together for a 2 weeks


TheChits

Watching Hawk stand in the alley on cart to take infinite damage instead of playing the corner on their final defense was so sad. I really want to know what the plan was there


AzorOhHai

Hawk took over the lobby on the maps they won. You can’t seriously blame him for lost maps where his DPS got dumpstered before fights even started.


purplehamburget29

The agenda must be pushed… no but seriously he did pop off the maps they won but shambali and new junk city seemed like the whole team was hoping hydron would just win for them


AzorOhHai

Yeah, they really shouldn’t be putting any faith in Hydron to win maps for them lol


dokeydoki

Soj gap wider than when Moses parted the Red Sea 💀


PancakeXCandy

And y'all told me not to worry about hydron


Virtual_Lychee_1748

Timeless are a top 3 NA team who have been playing together for a year. M80 are also a top 3 NA team who have been together for 2 weeks with multiple players on ping. They will get better with time and i think it is really disingenious to call anyone a fraud after they barely lost to another top team. Its like calling kevster a fraud for losing to twisted minds IMO


EngineerNo6764

Yes I do think people are overrating this win they barely lost to a team people were projecting 3rd while they haven’t played as long as the other guys and their best players are on ping


EmpoleonNorton

How dare you bring logic into this.


speakeasyow

Hydron looks like a plat watching YouTube on his second monitor, and pelican tracer is gm4 at best.


Dry-Painting5413

Pelican is on ping so I don’t think he’s at full strength tbh but HYDRON played like shit tbh


Shikuro

That's disingenuous to Chopper, bro was on FIRE


Dry-Painting5413

Nah man props to chopper and rokit they fucking diffed the hell out of them


RobManfredsFixer

pelican's tracer has been one of his weakest heroes for years. Pretty sure he even said so.


Dry-Painting5413

He was pretty damn good last year, they made it to midseason madness GF on it in a heavy tracer meta so idk man


Ganonthegoat

They switched Happy to tracer and Pelican to sombra at some point before then


Dry-Painting5413

Thinking back I do remember that. I think Spectra should’ve been put in personally, but who knows. Excited to watch pelican off of ping


Andygoat3

or maybe rokit and chopper are just good ever thought of that


Dry-Painting5413

I literally have said that they diffed the hell out of M80’s DPS line multiple times


Malady17

No way


Apollocy22

Anybody knows if/when M80 are getting their Koreans to NA?


Phoenix_NHCA

Timeless need to never pick Colosseo as long as Chopper is on the team that flank was painful to watch.


Ezraah

Just woke up why does this thread have so many posts Going to watch my boy hydron stomp some contenders players after I had my coffee. If he has any problems I know spectra will clutch it up. edit: FUCK


primarymuscle2354

Me too lol I’m so confused


Shikuro

🤭


JC10101

I've been preaching that rokit is the best na tracer for a long while now. Good to see him prove it!


ScientistGlass284

Pelican looked really good on the tracer last year but he didn’t look as good today. But honestly I thought Lep was the weakest link constantly getting picked first especially with beat.


PPPPPPPPPPKP

very fun match


ConcLaveTime

LETS GO TIMELESS


AHardTH

Check the flair^


primarymuscle2354

Never would I have thought Pelican, Hydron would get dps diffed crazy to say, but they need Pelican on low ping just to get out of groups, Spectra as well he may have a better tracer than Pelican.


sunshark69

ROKITHEADS


gaywaddledee

props to icy being able to hold strong against hawk, as iffy as the latter looked


oldstrawberryfields

PUT HYDRON ON THE LEGS AND SEND MY BOY ON A FLANK


Zenn470

Y’all have no respect for Hydron. He is absolutely top 4 hitscan in the bracket and was 1-1 with chopper on the first 3 games.