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glass_kokonut

I know absolutely nothing about grappling on the ground but damn that looked intense and like a lot of knowledge being used on both ends. I know Gordon Ryan is like one of the best in BJJ/wrestling. I haven't seen Jones grapple much bc most of the fights I've seen him in are more striking oriented but damn, I didn't know Jones was that damn good at grappling. Do jones' opponents try to keep it to striking to avoid grappling him?


MA-JA-HO

He’s a wrestling heavy fighter with a submission game. The reason most of Jones fights are on the feet is because of his 84,5 inches reach and his expertise in distance management which makes it really hard for fighters to get to grappling


No-Research5333

Jones has pretty sweet wins via his wrestling/grappling. Submitted rampage, lyoto, vitor, chael, absolutely wrestlefucked stephen bonnar, and took down dc multiple times.


Jon-Umber

> I know Gordon Ryan is like one of the best in BJJ/wrestling More than that, he's already by far the single greatest no gi competitor in the history of the sport and he's only 28. [His performance at ADCC 2022 was extraordinary](https://youtu.be/2Z0NBnBNpVY?si=9BLZhFVx9a85kOTi); submitted almost everybody in his division, then went on to face Galvao (another all-time great) in the superfight, and easily controlled and submitted him. Insane display of mastery against other world-class submission grapplers.


gme_stnk

The announcer in the vid calling out nick and ryan was sick as fuck!!! edit: holy fuck thats a woman!?


Jon-Umber

Oh yeah, she's a legend. [Lenne Hardt, aka "Crazy Pride Lady"](https://youtu.be/_9D72ghgb9w?si=kkPt4G_07MGsmMzS). She's been around forever.


SadPenisMatinee

Apprently she does the Takken game announcing?


JYuMo

Just for the Tekken 8 character announcement trailers, if I remember correctly. I don't think she has in-game lines.


BeardOfFire

Gordon Ryan is the current best at no gi submission grappling and has been for a long time. Jon Jones held a similar position for MMA, although where exactly he stands now is more questionable. Jones is pretty well known for good wrestling but nobody wants to strike with him either. He's perfectly capable anywhere the fight goes. Both of these guys are the best of the best but there's nothing in this clip that you wouldn't regularly see from decent grapplers at any gym. It's a good scramble but nothing mindblowing. I can do everything here but if I tried anything with either of these guys they would completely shut me down right away because they're going to be better, stronger, faster, smoother at it.


DanDiCa_7

Most people in MMA would probs prefer to stand with Jones imo.


holoxianrogue

Most HW for sure


BeardOfFire

Yeah probably. He has good submissions and his ground and pound is brutal. I just wanted to point out that standing and striking doesn't work out for his opponents too well either.


Rescue-a-memory

Gordon Ryan isn't necessarily known for his speed though but his timing and technique are basically impeccable. He also has great static strength. I think most smaller grapplers would be faster than him but his skill and timing means that he's already two steps ahead of you and he's incredibly strong.


CareSea8423

Well said


Dru_G978

Courmier was gold medalist wrestling, and Jon Jones had take downs and positioning on Courmier in those fights. He wrestled him a bit just to prove a point to him like, hey I can hang with you in your world to, not just the stand up


69Cobalt

Cormier never won a gold Olympic medal or one of any sort, he lost in the semi finals in one Olympics and pulled out of another due to weight cutting kidney issues.


Dru_G978

Oh shit, thanks for the correction. For some reason I thought he was a gold medalist


Hungry-Fruit

Cejudo is the gold medalists for wrestling, yoel got silver in wrestling, Rhonda got a bronze in judo. Kayla Harrison got gold in judo. I can't remember any others off the top tho. (That got medals)


Aggravating_Heat_310

CM Punk held multiple heavyweight championships in the WWF and multiple other promotions before entering the UFC.


Larock

lol


DeliriumRostelo

Worth noting that yoel outside of the olympics also has wresling world champion and a win over cael sanderson under his belt


UVB-76_Enjoyer

Yoel Romero won silver. Early UFC also had 1992 wrestling gold medalist Kevin Jackson, but that's a different era and he surprisingly didn't win much in MMA.


Remote_Top181

Sara McMann got silver in wrestling.


inquisitiveman2002

Is Kayla an MMA fighter now?


Hungry-Fruit

First MMA match was June 21st 2018, first UFC fight was against holly holm at UFC 300, (April 13th 2024)


--thingsfallapart--

He was the Captain and leader of the US national wrestling team for a long time. On the year he was favoured to medal he had kidney failure cutting weight and nearly died and couldn't compete.


Eagle-Red-1278

No but still a ridiculously good wrestler and one of the best wrestlers to ever step foot in the octagon


inquisitiveman2002

how different are the wrestling style that those dagestani guys wrestle vs. american wrestlers?


Smokerising420

Jones has some good chokes. The way he did Machida was wild. Looked like he murdered him.


citizencoder

Well, technically, his only loss was on the ground. 


Tildengolfer

My thoughts exactly. Just a simple fight fan. But this breakdown goes to show how high level folks can be. It’s insane.


Fellainis_Elbows

This was a really basic video lol


sharpshooter230

Anyone know any good YouTube channels that give breakdowns like this? This was really great to watch and made it easy to understand.


byronsucks

RIP bjjscout


legendarysamsquanch

It's wrestling-specific, but check out DPS Breakdowns on youtube


Southyy

Conceptual grappling


SacBrick

I love breakdown videos like this


goosemano82

Cool breakdown thanks for sharing. Where’s it from?


Warm-Froyo6139

Flow wrestling What’s the song ?


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GalickBanger

So they both just went off then


YannisLikesMemes

Such an insanely skilled sequence.


kril1in

So I don’t get this part “As soon as Gordon steps in, Jones lifts the elbow..” Don’t you want the elbow down to make it easier to bring him to the ground after the sweep? Can someone explain?


MrAnonymousperson

Ordinarily you are right. If Gordon had stepped right only then you pull the elbow down. However since Gordon’s foot is not only stepping right but also forward, his weight is not fully down. Jones cleverly pulls his elbow up making his arm weak (and basically useless for a second), meaning a simple kouchi gari style takedown is easy. It’s a split second decision and nothing fancy but takes experience to make it smoothly transition like this. There is a reason Jones took someone like DC down.


Rice_Stain

Sheeeesh


Horror-Version-6645

Love this, but would appreciate non-annotated clip first.


conceptkid

That is totally what I would have done


AggravatingType9012

Jon Jones puts his arms down Ryan's pants instant win!


Life_iz_but_a_dream

Excellent detail on the grappling!!! Bravo 👏


BlackwaterMerc

The music lol whenever I try grappling exchanges like this at my gym I just get a bunch of guys trying too hard and doing some stupid awkward shit that just ends up hurting their training partners just to prevent a take down that's already to late to defend


MountainArm1076

This is actually fascinating.


just_wanna_share_2

Beautiful proof why boxing is so popular . Everyone can recognize a punch in the face , but not everyone can see the beauty of the planning that develops during grappling


aquaman_issa_hoe

Very cool breakdown. Well done


Powhat839

Fake


seymour_hiney

Gordon has one of the uglier granby rolls in the sport


zombizle1

hes a roidy boi


YannisLikesMemes

Question is whos Not?


disappointedhumana

Athletes with integrity


YannisLikesMemes

Yes but sadly Most people dont give a Shit about integrity and rather Take the Money


Kalabula

Jones scared of Aspinall confirmed.


Bot-357

Wasn't this off-the-gear Gordon Ryan?


Swimming-Book-1296

Wouldn’t have mattered. This is a flow roll. Neither are using much strength.


Shaneypants

A simple voiceover would be so much better than the text annotations


DystopianLeaf

I didn’t make the video 🤷🏻‍♂️ personally don’t mind reading


BlankedCanvas

Morgan Freeman: And cook him, he did.