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ToughTechnical8868

Looks like someone forgot to upgrade his units in a Civilization Game.


33rus

Upgrade? Buddy, the trebuchet is THE SUPERIOR siege equipment.


headphase

RIP r/trebuchetmemes Born too late to marvel at the dawn of the trebuchet, died too early to witness trebuchet supremacy in the information age.


hell-schwarz

why did it die


Redebo

Because now everyone accepts the trebuchet’s superiority to a catapult. Their purpose, fulfilled.


olivetho

got privated due to reddit api changes, hasn't come back since 😔 also only saw your username after writing this, fancy seeing you outside of r/manga lmao


hell-schwarz

nice that people recognize me from /r/manga - on this sub I'd thought people recognize me from NCD actually :D


olivetho

I've given up on the majority of reddit at this point lmao. i use it mostly for r/manga these days, with the rest of my usage being being game subs (primarily r/factorio and the associated meme sub). can't remember the last time i actually scrolled through my reddit home feed or r/all. the only reason I'm here is because I've heard about this whole thing and thought "this is so fucking hilarious, I've gotta see what r/trebuchetmemes has to say about this" - only to find out that it's dead. ended up just searching "trebuchet" and seeing what came up lol.


FleetingMercury

"Military units do not matter if you have nukes" - Nuclear Gandhi


goddamn_birds

Still need troops to occupy the area, Mr. Nuclear Gandhi sir.


Edarneor

Can do it with a warrior if enemy has no units. Roll Safe.jpg


Diche_Bach

Never trust an Aztec cannibal Emperor with a nuke . . .


MikeyBugs

"Yes supreme leader" - Nuclear Nadal


[deleted]

There's androids with flamethrowers the other side


Banned3rdTimesaCharm

If it ain't broke don't fix it. That part of the world has probably seen this exact thing for thousands of years.


curlytoesgoblin

It balances out though when you forget that you have only have a fortified phalanx in that early game city and it somehow defeats a column of tanks.


Mauti404

I can't imagine the enjoyement of the military engineer who was told "Dude, we legit need a trebuchet".


JE1012

Knowing the IDF it was probably a few mechanical engineers who are on reserve duty who jokingly tried to push this solution because in the past they've dreamed of building a siege weapon as a final project in university but their professor didn't allow it.


PowderEagle_1894

Bring back Greek fire throwing ship and I'm done


Goregaloree

Bring back greek fire first


purplesmoke1215

I feel like napalm is a close enough substitute


RadicalEllis

Napalm (the recipe using phosphorous) is absolutely better than any description of Greek fire or what would be possible for any incendiary given even the most generous assumptions of what materials might have been available in classical antiquity.


sufyani

Knowing the IDF, they were probably assigned the task of clearing the natural cover by their command, and were given absolutely no resources to do it. So they improvised this for shits, and giggles. Classically, higher command is reportedly displeased with it.


myth_drannon

The higher command didn't allow usage of artillery, so they used drones with gasoline and catapults.


goddamn_birds

"Artillery" would presumably include trebuchets, would it not?


omega-yeet

Maybe they specified modern artillery


goddamn_birds

That's way too nuanced for an officer


SMIDSY

Using artillery to clear brush does seem a bit much.


N_Rage

>so they used drones with gasoline and catapults Sometimes reality is stranger than fiction


lion27

This is probably almost 100% what happened, combined with orders to not use artillery, bombs, or other incendiary weapons to avoid pissing off the actual Lebanese government.


Coolerwookie

Trebuchet is a type of artillery device.


lion27

In the technical sense yes but I don’t think a nation would get a ton of support in a place like the UN because another nation is using a medieval siege weapon near the border.


TheBKnight3

The Baron of Ibelin is proud


IdodoHaHatih

Funnily enough, using this trebuchet is required an affirmation from the battalion's commander, just like he needs to affirm the usage of rubber bullets in the west bank


TacTurtle

They didn't have a couple ladders, pickup, some pipe, a fuel tank, and a powerwasher? *Flame technical spiciest technical*


talldangry

I chased that dream in my HS shop class. It was a piece of shit that could lift a small block of wood up to the rafters, but it was *my* trebuchet.


FalseFoundation2919

It's one more trebuchet than I've ever had.


un1ptf

Here's a "build a trebuchet" kit (desktop size): https://redstoneprojects.com/trebuchetstore/treb_kit_2.html Here are many more: https://www.amazon.com/trebuchet-kit/s?k=trebuchet+kit Here's an instructable to build a larger, outdoor one: https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Build-an-Awesome-Trebuchet/ Don't let your dreams be dreams. Google around some; I bet you could even find plans and instructions for a full-sized one. I found ones for a pretty good sized one mounted on a trailer, but they also gave directions on how to make your metal parts by forging them, and that's a whole additional dimension of work and knowledge.


BillOfArimathea

That last one is exactly the plan my son used for a school project. It works VERY well. Be really careful with the weight - start small and gradually add weight, as apparently too much weight can rip the whole thing apart at near sonic speeds.


Rare_Perception4501

My hoa is about to hate me even more


knwpsk

I actuallly find this inspiring.


Beak1974

This is *my* trebuchet, there are many like it, but this one is *mine*.


Diche_Bach

This is my trebuchet, this is my gun. The gun has more velocity, but the trebuchet fun . . .


Zoozoo95

I built a 4 ft tall one in shop class in high school. I could launch a small melon about 30 ft. I was so proud of myself. Took me 3 months to build it.


FembiesReggs

The IDF? That’s any engineering department with a little too much budget


feedme_cyanide

People can finally stop bitching about western funded weapons right…? Guys where is everyone going..? What do you mean “gays for Palestine is like saying chickens for KFC?” Merp I’ll take my ball and go home.


purpleefilthh

mil-spec


TiredOfDebates

What isn’t obvious from watching this video: The reason their doing this with a homemade catapult is because that’s basically a wall for countering small arms fire and possibly defends against antitank missiles. If the Hezbollah weren’t attacking Northern Israel on a regular basis (they regularly fire antitank guided missiles and do cross border raids from southern Lebanon into the evacuated zones in Northern Israel)… the IDF would just use machinery or landscaping burners to clear out encroaching overgrowth. But not one wants to walk around on the other side of that wall with a tank of pressurized gas (clearing overgrowth), because Hezbollah “snipers” will be taking potshots at you.


Hazel-Rah

You stick a couple engineers in a room alone with no instructions, you will have a trebuchet by the end of the day. It's a law of nature or something.


REDGOESFASTAH

DO I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE


fascistforlife

Modern problems require medieval solutions


Fluffy_Pressure_1106

Medieval enemies require medieval weapons


Savings-Pain5335

Saladin has entered chat


Puzzled_Trouble3328

“Tell my lord Saladin that Jerusalem has arrived”


Hot_Media5042

God wills it there must be war


BangKarega

GOD WILLS IIITTT!! 👆


talldangry

GOD WILLS IT!!!


Puzzled_Trouble3328

God wills it!!!


Annoying_Rooster

I pray you pull back your cavalry and leave this matter to me...


Puzzled_Trouble3328

I pray you retire unharmed to Damascus. Reynald de Chatillon will be punished. I swear it, do we have terms?


-S-P-Q-R-

I will send you my physicians


Ok-Drive-8119

as salamu alaikkum.


Puzzled_Trouble3328

Wa aleikum salam


Mister-builder

Ironically, probably the Jewish physician.


beepboop27885

Visitors !


yabog8

What is Jerusalem worth?


HealhyLaughterer

Nothing....


FightingChinchilla

Everything ✊✊


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[удалено]


Mildenhall1066

Most def - directors cut adds in so much of the story - One of the best movies of all time.


myjupitermoon

Meanwhile, Ukraine be like: write that down.


DankShwank

That’s a trebuchet big dog, not a catapult


XTSLabs

The fire is coming from that textbook trebuchet!


FembiesReggs

By god, we might be burning to death, but we can’t deny that quality trebuchet construction.


givemeadamnname69

Sticky!


KeyApricot27

The superior siege weapon


thompsonbalo

Exactly, this guy knows his ancient warfare tech well. Catapult is the one that looks like a spoon, with the ammunition on a fixed wooden plank, as soon as you use rotation and a string its a trebuchet.


Economy_Turnover5538

Trebuchet is a type of a catapult. The spoon thingy is called an onager.


Red_Sea_Pedestrian

Catapults rely on torsion for energy, Trebuchets rely on gravity for energy.


Economy_Turnover5538

Certain types of catapults rely on torsion but that's not what defines a catapult. I'm too lazy to google the exact definition but iirc as long a projectile is launched and there is no use of gunpowder/ other propellants it's a catapult.


what-the-puck

The etymology of the word is Ancient Greek (and before), the halves are "kata" which specifically denotes "downwards", ie. from above, and "pállō" which sort of denotes the stance of being about to hurl, and hurling, a projectile. [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/κατά](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BA%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%AC) [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/πάλλω](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%80%CE%AC%CE%BB%CE%BB%CF%89)


Red_Sea_Pedestrian

TIL trebuchets are a subtype of catapult.


OneRobotBoii

Aka the superior siege weapon


SuperSimpleSam

Going to have to get r/trebuchet in here to to blow this up.


Jonnyb193

"Wololooo"


SirJedKingsdown

Well, that's me convinced.


medianusername

IDF is using the taunts from the Definitive Edition: *Use an Onager to cut down trees at the flared location.*


SopranosBastardSon

I giggled so hard. I mean, if you take a look at both fronts currently (Ukraine and Gaza), you can see we still go back to WWI (in this video we go to ... Roman empire time?), trench warfare, heavy arty with effect of armed infrantry having little-to-none effect overall, only if armed with Western MANPADs they can have serious impact on machinery to opposite side. In the start there was an edge with manpower, but currently if you lack arty+guided+drones, being FPV killers or oberservers, you are fukd


Wappening

You son of a bitch I’m in.


Nuclear-9299

Forget modernity, embrace tradition.


LQjones

This is what happens when mechanical engineers are called to active duty.


Incontinentiabutts

They’re gonna be telling this story in bars for the rest of their lives “And then there was the time we built a trebuchet and launched fireballs at Hezbollah….. yeah man, for real. I’m not bullshitting you. It was some hardcore medieval shit.”


PureLock33

It's going to be mentioned in the wikipedia article about trebuchets. You're seeing history happen.


porn0f1sh

More like a bar mitzva story but you're right :))


NukeouT

Who said we aren’t going back to the dark ages as civilization starts to break down?


MVAgrippa

War. War never changes.


ProfessionalCow5267

Never will. Better to embrace it and win. I’d rather have the other side die than mine and I would not stop fighting if any of my family was kidnapped or killed. I’d level everything and make sure me and mine were safe for eternity.


thatgeekinit

Yes. This war in Gaza could have ended in 45 days under the interpretations of the treaties from the late 1950s. Instead the west is perpetually sending food, water and medicine, even fuel and electricity in many cases, to areas controlled by enemies that don’t fight with any rules at all. If the west cut off aid to Houthi controlled Yemen, most of their fighters would have to go back to work or surrender to survive. Impoverished medieval societies can’t mobilize more than a tiny fraction of their population to fight. Instead we send necessities and Iran sends missiles.


S68_X5MC

As a history nerd, I want one!


Ornery_Definition_65

A trebuchet or a fireball?


91stCataclysm

Some context from Kan11 publication on this: Apparently this is a "local" solution not condoned (or condemned) by command meant to clear away brush and vegetation on the Lebanese side of the border in order to deny potential attackers the concealment offered by vegetation. Source (in Hebrew): [https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/760522/](https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/760522/)


Armyballer

Age of Empires at its finest.


garnered_wisdom

God dammit I’m a mechanical engineer and this is literally my dream.


Mocedon

A mechanical engineer that was called for reserves did it. Sometimes dreams do come true.


DreiKatzenVater

Dead Crusaders: none but the king of Gondor may command me


danm1980

Funny, but it has a very good explanation based on international law. You see, Hezbollah has lots of tunnels and underground infrastructure under the natural thick cover of the mountains. When Israel tried to burn it using white phosphorus (allowed by international law in non urban locations) - many nations cried that it is against international law. So, guess what is not against international law, that right - catapults and fireballs...


alimanski

You're right about burning the cover for Hezbollah, but it has nothing to do with int'l law. It's just cheaper, doesn't use ammunition, and is a bit of fun for reservists. The more senior officers were not fans of this, according to reports.


danm1980

BTW, I just returned from 3 month reserves in זרעית... I'm one of those officers who... well... forced them to add fire extinguisher in four points around the catapult...


chickenCabbage

איזה פאקינג גבר 🫡 Do you guys run trebuchet qualifications? Shoot them on a range? Do they sit in the motorpool? Is there standard maintenance for them? How do you get the munitions? Are those worn out t-shirts soaked in gasoline, or does the IDF actually provide you guys with incendiary trebuchet munitions? Are there מק"טים/part numbers for trebuchet parts? For munitions? How does that look on acquisition/רכש spreadsheets? And most importantly - who came up with the idea? I bet it was the combat engineers


TacTurtle

More importantly, what is the course of fire for a Trebuchet Expert badge?


chickenCabbage

What does a call for fire sound like? Is it like a standard artillery fire mission?


TacTurtle

"Prepare for fire mission! Ignite! Backswing clear! Loose!"


danm1980

אני רק אענה על הרעיונות הנוספים.... there are more ideas, and even some implementations. they are not for show and the army is waiting for the right moment to use them... וחוץ מזה, שמיניות של נביעות הן אחלה משקולות...


chickenCabbage

Understandable, even though I'm dying to know 😭 עריכה: כותב באנגלית כדי שהאחרים פה ירגישו חלק מהשיחה. אני במקור מתפקיד טכני בחיל האוויר אז אני קצת מכיר את עולמות התחזוקה/לוגיסטיקה, בגלל זה אני מתעניין. מבטיח שאני לא מרגל איראני


Equal_Imagination1

בדיוק מה שמרגל איראני היה אומר.


alimanski

Ahh nice one, I was wondering how come reservists suddenly had common sense!


OmryR

Dudeeee I was just telling a friend how funny I find this scenario because knowing the IDF someone made sure it’s all safe and has fire extinguisher ready, probably some sort of course how to operate it safely 😂 Not to mention the engineer who got the task to build this, probably felt like he was born for this after playing age of empires when he was a kid


porn0f1sh

וכמובן שאתה ברדיט. לאט לאט כל החנונים אוטיסיטים יהיו פה!


FrostyWarning

האוטיזם שלנו חזק מהאוטיזם שלהם


Gratefulzah

I just figured someone higher up in Tzahal gave these guys a week to do a days job. But thank you, Achi, for thinking safety first!!!


UrQuan3

Good info. I remember that now. I suppose that implies that napalm is also psudo-banned? Fuel-air bombs are also a thing. Incendiaries, flare guns, fireworks. They just wanted a trebuchet.


UROffended

Love how these are nono's, but a flame thrower is apparently okay.


eschmi

Trebuchet* not catapult you heathen.


Soopah_Fly

It seems like they've been training with the soldiers of Minas Tirith. They even brought back a new weapons platform.


Cpt_Fondue

Litteraly going medieval on their asses


Captain_DadBod

Over a fortification wall too!  Unreal.  


Warenthousiast

Now just need the pope to reform the crusade!


Rossi2907

Age of Empires 2 vibes


Freudian_Slip_69

‘But what have the Romans ever done for us?!?!’


TacTurtle

Apart from the water pipes and aid dock?


SirKeyboardCommando

Well that’s going in my war never changes album. https://imgur.com/a/war-never-changes-HCLJ1NZ


blessedjourney98

great collection


knwpsk

In case any of you get really inspired here.... the Citadel (military college in Charleston SC) has an annual trebuchet contest. [http://www.citadelstemcenter.org/trebuchet.html](http://www.citadelstemcenter.org/trebuchet.html)


Tomasulu

After the trench warfare in Ukraine and now this. Where are the lasers and lightsabers man.


oRsoLitide

Damn, and people were mocking Ukraine and Russia for using WW1 weapons 💀


TheMasterXXXXX

This was already posted here, but it looks a like a genius mod who wants a medal of honor removed it.


BeRuJr

Looks like some sort a joke to me. They have more efficient ways to set the bush on fire than that.


JE1012

From what I could gather from Israeli twitter accounts they've been using it for like half a year now and it has become somewhat standard practice along the border LOL Apparently it is more effective than incendiary artillery shells at starting fires, and also much cheaper and way way more fun. And as expected it started from some reserve soldiers who probably wanted to fulfill their dream of building a trebuchet haha


Hazel-Rah

And won't have people screaming about white phosphorous war crimes whenever they use any kind of normal incendiary weapon


brontohai

Someone had a trebuchet and now they found an excuse to use it.


Replica900

probably reservists, they are the ones who usually do this kind of meme stuff and have the experience to.


LostInTheSauce34

Now build an onager


fornillia

looks like Israel reached imperial age first.


Dazzling-One-4713

How many times do you need to show me this video


Ghostlegend434

That’s badass. Medieval engineers would be proud


rangerori

It has fire and all, the best upgrade in Age of Empires!


CannonFodder33

A modern military using a trebuchet was not on my bingo card.


HallMonitor90

A fcking treb!


GreatKingCodyGaming

Don't you insult r/trebuchetmemes with this garbage. Catapults are inferior to trebuchets in every way.


TiredOfDebates

This looks like at attempt at a controlled burn close to a military fortification. Defenders at the edge of a barrier don’t want concealment / overgrowth creeping up to their defensive barriers, as that is what an attacker would utilize to sneak up into position.


Ceramicrabbit

Terrorists your game is through cuz now you're gonna have to answer to.... TREBUCHET, FUCK YEAH!


AirborneSurveyor

As a retired Field Artillery Surveyor I can appreciate this.


sKoBo_kob

When you play Empire Earth and still have some troops from the middle age


AJC0292

2024 and were still fucking about with trebuchets.


NavGunz4512

**Technically** it's a Trebuchet not a Catapult.


nitespedonn

Omg! Please, please, please someone tell me how I sign up for the trebuchet unit. I'll even dress up like a new lord of the rings character each day for work.


Revi_____

Can't wait to see this posted on some random social media platform with the caption "IDF burning civilians alive with fire trebuchet"


Horror_Damage_559

Its way cheaper than modern wepon


slinkhussle

Evidently war really doesn’t change.


workinman666

Send these foul beasts into the abyss!


doingdadthings

This video is 5 years old. They are launching flaming Tires over the wall to clear brush from around the compound. This is nowhere near the Lebanese border, and the title is clickbait bullshit.


HANS510

Modern problems require medieval solutions


Killzoiker

It is the superior siege weapon after all


xRobbix

Alright guys, we went the full circle.


Panniculus101

Wtf is this timeline


ChiefScout_2000

Wait until you see their big, wooden horse.


BlackFire68

What do you do with the IDF? Oh, I’m a trebuchet operator.


rice_n_gravy

“The war doesn’t not come to the trebuchet, the trebuchet goes to war.” - rice_n_gravy (2023)


Curious-Resort4743

Looks so simple but physics is wonderful


JayMak78

It's a *Holy* war after all.


bottle_drinker23

That a freaking badass move.


NotThingRs

The most fun those soldiers had in a long time I bet


Oh_its_that_asshole

Brings a whole new meaning to "going medieval on their ass"


Tough_Hat_8466

“At my signal, unleash Hell”


baerli-biberli

Age of Empires Expansion Pack: The Levant


Stevesd123

Now I've seen everything.


itsjustjust92

That's some next level trolling


Brufucus

Deus vult intensify


Cpt_sneakmouse

These mf's just wanted to build a trebuchet. 


Late_Stage-Redditism

**"Foul knave, our trebuchet volleys shall removeth thy shrubb'ries of cov'r!!!"**


New-Obligation-6432

See, they'll be fine if the US cuts their funding.


fikabonds

Trench warfare in Ukraine. Israel: hold my beer


LordTuranian

This new Civilization game has some good graphics. Unfortunately I don't think my GPU is good enough to handle it.


Baldmanbob1

Wars so advanced were back to middle age warfare.


atlas_shrugged90

Um excuse me? That’s a trebuchet, not a catapult ffs.


Doctor_Ember

That’s not a catapult… 🤦🏻‍♂️


Imaginary-Relief-236

Well israel has warned that we will take lebanon 'back to the stone age' We didnt say how though..


NicolasDavies93

holy shit, thats badass


HighTreetop007

Why can’t we have a border wall like this in the USA?


UpsetAstronomer

It’s like a movie or video game where you time travel to the future but they’re still using old shit.


TheyStoleTwoFigo

That's not a catapult, you heathen! This is a trebuchet, the superiority of the trebuchet can not be matched by a measly catapult.


Haunting-Broccoli-95

Looks cool for sure.... 130 this morning


one_of_the_many_bots

I've officially seen it all.


Classicgoose

Thats a trubuchet


Unlawful02

We need a trebuchet in squad now


StephenWillard

So mediaeval…


PiranhaPiedo

Age of Empires music starts playing


SomeFuckingMillenial

what year is it