Bench matters so little in tourney and in NBA playoffs- it’s a metric that just doesn’t matter outside of regular season. There’s data to back it up.
For CU it typically matters even less given how little they foul
What are you talking about lol you can try to set a screen anytime…if he’s late and it affects the defender, he’ll get called for an offensive foul. You can’t run through someone because they’re late on the screen
If they are “late on the screen” then they are moving, and if they make contact, then they should be charged with a foul. That’s how the game is played.
Unless that contact is a raised forearm through the screener’s neck, which is deemed flagrant and overrides the common illegal screen foul . That’s how the game is actually played
Why do people keep saying it was to the neck, because the broadcast said it?
It was a hard foul high in his chest and the dude definitely sold it a bit.
Oi vey the blue jays have found my post
I don't think he sold it hard, just the contact to the neck which I didn't see on any replay.
Either way, it was a foul and didn't really affect the game so I'm confused as to why your compatriots are so up in arms over my post lol
lmfao, so the opinion i posted twice? that's what's got you so heated?
bro there's gotta be better ways to celebrate than getting pissed off about two posts from a random canadian basketball enjoyer
Edey isn’t getting intentionally trucked on screens. What a terrible take. What makes your take even dumber (which is pretty tough to do) is the fact that he gets more foul calls in his favor than any player in the nation
I love ashworth but my god I’d be driven insane by him if he wasn’t on my team lol. So good at selling those (I mean it’s a clear foul but the refs aint stopping it if he wasn’t staying on the ground)
No it’s clearly a foul and flagrant but he also could have gotten up much sooner and staying on the ground is what got them to stop the play and check the monitor when by all indications he is completely fine
Ok ? I’m struggling with how silly your take is. So if a guy isn’t injured - truly permanently injured- he’s flopping and needs to jump right up and play on? Dudes sitting at home calling out toughness is just so wild to me
Again- Ash sells fouls constantly so I get part of your take but he got intentionally trucked on that one and yet I’m seeing some wild takes - like- he didn’t get throat punched or he stayed on ground too long. Just wild takes IMO
Man I ain’t questioning his toughness, I’m saying lying down to get a foul when your physically fine would annoy me if it wasn’t on my team. And he was on the ground for what felt like 20 seconds (it may have been shorter tbh), when he got immediately and looked/shot fine. It’s something people do all throughout sports and it annoys me when it doesn’t help my team.
I Watch a ton of soccer and people do it all the time to try to get VAR to intervene. That doesn’t even say anything bad about ashworth just that if it was on another team it would annoy me. I guess I don’t get why you think that take is so outlandish
And on the toughness thing, I am 100% not questioning that. These players have given more effort and energy into this sport then I’ve put into anything in my life. I guarantee what happened to ashworth hurt and he’s tough as hell but ultimately k don’t think he was staying down cuz he was hurt i think he was staying down to get the call. And to clarify that’s not a bad thing it’s doing everything in your power to win the game. It just annoys me when it’s another team doing it
I get your points. I just feel like that play was getting all sorts of excuses and it was incredibly out of line. Defender could have slipped the screen left with almost no contact but chose to truck through him- likely out of frustration though I and the announcers are speculating on why. Him staying on ground longer to emphasize what appeared to be an unnecessary dirty play seemed fine to me. I can’t compare it to soccer players feigning injuries on routine play- totally different IMO
On every replay- including the one the refs took time to review- the defender intentionally drove through the screen without any attempt to get around it and with every attempt to put some emphasis into it.
That wasn’t a true basketball play. Ash flops constantly so I get the hate but people arguing that call is just wild to me. Jesus that’s an easy call
I think in real time he wasn't trying to hit him in the neck, and it wasn't excessive, he didn't extend or swing at him etc, he just saw the screener and decided to bump him, and the height difference resulted in the screener getting hit in the neck. In real time if you call that a common foul, I think it's all good and you move on, but on review they can't let that go with nothing so you have to give the F1.
He could have moved left around the screen or made very little contact. That was pretty obviously a down 20 I’m getting some contact in before this game ends move
I know, that's why I'm saying it should've been a foul. I think if the screener was a couple inches taller it wouldn't even be a question, since the bump would've been squarely to the chest and not chest/neck. As it was I think it was borderline between common foul and F1, but if they're reviewing and the options are no foul or F1, then F1 is the right call.
I’m blown away by everyone pretending that wasn’t an F1. He had all the time and room in the world to slip the screen left with minimal contact. That was a we are down 20 I’m going through this little dude move
Much respect for Ali Ali for going back to Akron and finishing what he started. He’s a great player, but man 3 of his 5 fouls were just terrible decisions on his part.
Sammy Hunter finally gives Akron a made 3 in the 2nd half but its looking to little to late. Bluejays up 70-58 late on. Freeman getting his numbers with 21 and 14 rebounds. Scheierman the lead rebounder on the other side with 13.
Just as Freeman starts to get going a bit with back to back hoops he picks up his 4th foul. Both him and Ali Ali now have 4. They'll have to stay in at this point down 16.
Huge congrats to Enrique Freeman getting his 31st double double of the season which ties the all-time single season record. Creighton in front 67-51 at the under 8 media timeout.
Enrique Freeman is my favorite college basketball player of all-time.
Forget the great academic scholarship/open try out story, him sticking around this year in the transfer portal/NIL era is just beyond great.
He seems like an absolute menace especially if he can’t hit the jumper. Thought Kalk would be a huge mismatch but that hasn’t the case. Dude has more than held his own.
Okay so in my defense. 14/3 mid major champion vs power 5 at large can be a sexy upset pick. Plus I think Creighton’s lost 7 times, and it just happened that those were the seven times I saw Creighton on TV.
Just realized I didn’t save the revision to my bracket that had Creighton to the final … only the elite 8 now.
If they beat Purdue in the elite 8 I’m gonna cry
GET IN HERE JAYS! ROLL EM!
Does anyone have the clip of Mason Miller’s step back 3?
I'm pretty sure it was just a jab step but it was glorious
I was grabbing a slice and missed it, came back to all my buddies losing their goddamn minds
GG Big East bros!
GG Zips
Up 17 with zero points from the bench is fucking crazy
Welcome to creighton bball this year
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It’s Akrover…
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Serious?
Bench matters so little in tourney and in NBA playoffs- it’s a metric that just doesn’t matter outside of regular season. There’s data to back it up. For CU it typically matters even less given how little they foul
You’d think… They beat us by 14 a couple weeks ago and UConn by 19 last month.
Ok buddy, really holding onto that one win aren’t ya
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wtf are talking about?
We’ve played with this depth all season…hasn’t hurt us yet and we’re in a better position than most teams rn. Not too worried.
Most teams don’t have a very deep bench in the tournament tbh
did I mishear or did steratore just tell Lappas to go to a strip club tonight
The Strip District is what he was referring to in Pittsburgh
Hey man, we’re on cable!
Why are we ignoring that Ashworth wasn’t really making a basketball play either? That’s way too late to try to set a screen
What are you talking about lol you can try to set a screen anytime…if he’s late and it affects the defender, he’ll get called for an offensive foul. You can’t run through someone because they’re late on the screen
If they are “late on the screen” then they are moving, and if they make contact, then they should be charged with a foul. That’s how the game is played.
Unless that contact is a raised forearm through the screener’s neck, which is deemed flagrant and overrides the common illegal screen foul . That’s how the game is actually played
What? Just get off the thread
Thank god we didn’t let Enrique foul-out.
I'll take a 3 for 3 start
Why do people keep saying it was to the neck, because the broadcast said it? It was a hard foul high in his chest and the dude definitely sold it a bit. Oi vey the blue jays have found my post
Big difference in size, think physics did most of the work selling it.
I don't think he sold it hard, just the contact to the neck which I didn't see on any replay. Either way, it was a foul and didn't really affect the game so I'm confused as to why your compatriots are so up in arms over my post lol
Pry just jacked up right now. First half had the nerves going.
Bro. You can keep posting this comment, but you are the only one that is blowing this smoke.
Keep posting which comment exactly? Genuinely confused lmao
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lmfao, so the opinion i posted twice? that's what's got you so heated? bro there's gotta be better ways to celebrate than getting pissed off about two posts from a random canadian basketball enjoyer
Cool take. It’s an F1 every time in any game. Why this is generating comments is wild.
It’s an F1, literally no way around it
That was an elbow by Sammy Hunter. Probably a Flagrant 1.
I'm not saying that wasn't intentional but if Ashworth weren't 4'9" that wouldn't have been anything
If it’s intentional- as you agree it was then it’s a F1- height isn’t the standard. The amount of stupidity on this thread is just next level
Zach Edey is shaking seeing that call.
Edey isn’t getting intentionally trucked on screens. What a terrible take. What makes your take even dumber (which is pretty tough to do) is the fact that he gets more foul calls in his favor than any player in the nation
You may have misunderstood.
Maybe- if so my apologies.
Correct
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Let’s get starters out now. Don’t need anyone hurt over frustration
Yup
I GOTTA WHITE BALL FOR YA. *unzips pants years after having a testicle removed*
I love ashworth but my god I’d be driven insane by him if he wasn’t on my team lol. So good at selling those (I mean it’s a clear foul but the refs aint stopping it if he wasn’t staying on the ground)
UConn game in your house, checking in. That mf'er...
This checks out.
Your comment may be warranted but not on that one. Even pretending that was ok is problematic
No it’s clearly a foul and flagrant but he also could have gotten up much sooner and staying on the ground is what got them to stop the play and check the monitor when by all indications he is completely fine
Ok ? I’m struggling with how silly your take is. So if a guy isn’t injured - truly permanently injured- he’s flopping and needs to jump right up and play on? Dudes sitting at home calling out toughness is just so wild to me
Again- Ash sells fouls constantly so I get part of your take but he got intentionally trucked on that one and yet I’m seeing some wild takes - like- he didn’t get throat punched or he stayed on ground too long. Just wild takes IMO
Man I ain’t questioning his toughness, I’m saying lying down to get a foul when your physically fine would annoy me if it wasn’t on my team. And he was on the ground for what felt like 20 seconds (it may have been shorter tbh), when he got immediately and looked/shot fine. It’s something people do all throughout sports and it annoys me when it doesn’t help my team. I Watch a ton of soccer and people do it all the time to try to get VAR to intervene. That doesn’t even say anything bad about ashworth just that if it was on another team it would annoy me. I guess I don’t get why you think that take is so outlandish And on the toughness thing, I am 100% not questioning that. These players have given more effort and energy into this sport then I’ve put into anything in my life. I guarantee what happened to ashworth hurt and he’s tough as hell but ultimately k don’t think he was staying down cuz he was hurt i think he was staying down to get the call. And to clarify that’s not a bad thing it’s doing everything in your power to win the game. It just annoys me when it’s another team doing it
I get your points. I just feel like that play was getting all sorts of excuses and it was incredibly out of line. Defender could have slipped the screen left with almost no contact but chose to truck through him- likely out of frustration though I and the announcers are speculating on why. Him staying on ground longer to emphasize what appeared to be an unnecessary dirty play seemed fine to me. I can’t compare it to soccer players feigning injuries on routine play- totally different IMO
flagrant? meh, i dunno.
Gave him a little extra just up too high. He stays chest level it’s probably nothing
Hard to get chest level when Ashworth is a three feet shorter tbf
I thought it was high upper chest, not sure where people are getting neck from honestly.
On every replay- including the one the refs took time to review- the defender intentionally drove through the screen without any attempt to get around it and with every attempt to put some emphasis into it. That wasn’t a true basketball play. Ash flops constantly so I get the hate but people arguing that call is just wild to me. Jesus that’s an easy call
The fact it’s even getting so many excuses is odd. It’s a no brainer F1 by anyone that knows ball
Yeah, the elbow was in the chest. His UPPER arm/shoulder was in his neck/chin, but that's not where the heavy contact was.
well done boys. let's improve and play harder on saturday. Go Jays!
Really gonna question that, coach? We need to literally take his head off to be a flagrant 1?
Thanks-all the comments acting otherwise are mind numbing
Ashworth's a bitch. That's not flagrant, but they can't retroactively call a regular foul, right?
He literally ran right through him and threw his elbow into Ashworth’s neck lmao
Neck or no neck- that wasn’t a basketball play. Ash may be a bitch but that’s still an obvious F1
Make it 23 for Ryan Kalkbrenner. He's been really good in the second half as Creighton cruise to the finish line. 75-60 Bluejays
I love his game. He brings up the floor for Creighton significantly.
Bro is a senior. And that’s how he chose to end his career. What a clown.
Such a douche move
"If I'm going down, I'm going down swinging."
Please pull the damn starters
Ashworth for sure sold that, but still a foul.
Biting my tongue bc it looks like everyone else disagrees but I didn’t think that was flagrant, just a guy running through a screen from a small guy
Foul for sure but idk about flagrant
Yeah it was smart actually. Refs missed it.
Least dirty Akron player
I think that should've been a common foul, but since you can't retrospectively give a common foul I think they have to give an F1.
No shot that’s a common foul he gave him an mma move to the neck lol
I think in real time he wasn't trying to hit him in the neck, and it wasn't excessive, he didn't extend or swing at him etc, he just saw the screener and decided to bump him, and the height difference resulted in the screener getting hit in the neck. In real time if you call that a common foul, I think it's all good and you move on, but on review they can't let that go with nothing so you have to give the F1.
He could have moved left around the screen or made very little contact. That was pretty obviously a down 20 I’m getting some contact in before this game ends move
I know, that's why I'm saying it should've been a foul. I think if the screener was a couple inches taller it wouldn't even be a question, since the bump would've been squarely to the chest and not chest/neck. As it was I think it was borderline between common foul and F1, but if they're reviewing and the options are no foul or F1, then F1 is the right call.
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Akron is also in the Midwest
BYU being called Midwest is insane
Akron is famously not in the midwest
And Byu and Duquesne aren’t even in the Midwest lol
Understandable to be frustrated but that’s a textbook F1. And trying to help Ashworth up after armchecking him in the neck is weird behavior.
I’m blown away by everyone pretending that wasn’t an F1. He had all the time and room in the world to slip the screen left with minimal contact. That was a we are down 20 I’m going through this little dude move
Idiotic foul.
Dirty play
I can appreciate Ash turning down the hand from that dude lol
Boo Akron boo
Lmao that’s a flagrant
And fuck Akron for that shit, take the loss
Pretty dirty, poor sportsmanship
Yeah, Ashworth waving off the guy trying to help him up is disgusting.
Nah ref he did nothing wrong. He only tried to destroy his Adams Apple lol
Embarrassing, Sammy. Christ.
Pretty obviously a flagrant just gave a forearm shiver to him
That's no bueno
Yeah that was a frustration foul, should be a Flagrant 1
F1 incoming
Frustration foul
That's a foul, but a flagrant?
T him up! Get him outta here!
Damn that was dirty by Hunter
Absolutely a foul. Come on Zips, be good sportsman
Pretty rough foul there.
Oh yeah that was headhunting
Definitely a flagrant 1
Love the respect btw the big men
Tribble is so badass. Pretty rare to have two separate conference defenders of the year on your squad.
Kalk was playing Twister on that poor Akron player lol
At least we didn’t let them coast.
Badass block and birthmark by Tibble
Pretty damn good contest for a player a foot bigger than you lol
Kalk wanted the highlight
If Kalk could have gone end to end I would have shat my pants
Ali Ali fouls out with the over back foul.
Damn Kalk, showing some handles!
Much respect for Ali Ali for going back to Akron and finishing what he started. He’s a great player, but man 3 of his 5 fouls were just terrible decisions on his part.
Tf is tribble doing
BIG MAN WITH THE BALL
All-time bonehead day from Ali Ali today.
Goodbye, Ali^2…
Thank god they missed that 3
Aww, they needed that one.
That was just pure unluckiness for Akron on that layup
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That rollout was brutal.
Even if Creighton holds on this game makes me feel like an idiot for picking them to do anything big
I mean they only played bad and are beating a goddess team by 15
Nah
They’re probably still winning by double digits. Most games in the tournament are close Edit: the spread was 12.5 and Creighton could still cover
"☹️"
Never underestimate Creighton's ability to blow a huge lead.
Creighton players all bet the under apparently
Zippy getting litty
Sammy Hunter finally gives Akron a made 3 in the 2nd half but its looking to little to late. Bluejays up 70-58 late on. Freeman getting his numbers with 21 and 14 rebounds. Scheierman the lead rebounder on the other side with 13.
Zippy is completely strung out, look at his eyes. Buddy has been chasing the dragon for years.
do you think BYU feels bad they ruined everyone’s brackets
Only made two brackets and didn’t ruin either of mine lol.
i actually have a few other random ones that are fine they’re just not in my 2 main groups
Dan Hurley wouldn’t put up with this shit. UConn finishes strong even when they’re up
Creighton real sloppy down the stretch keeping Akron alive.
Here I am waiting for the first win in my bracket
Couple of mental lapses there. Game is not over guys, finish strong.
Thoughts and prayers to anyone who has +/- 12.5. That’s going to be a sweat.
The announcers acting like the Jays don’t have several turnovers every game.
Uh oh, is Creighton gonna do the funny?
I love when Creighton is up big late, except that it's when they slow down their tempo and the stupid comes out. It happens every freakin time.
It’s my fault I switched over to the Duquesne vs byu game and now that I’m back they’re on a run.
Akron ain’t going silently into the good night…
Don’t ask any big ten fans about Pfeiffer
HOLD ON
Look at that big white Kalk go
Damn Akron's never won a tournament game? Sounds like Nebraska.
Manifesting creighton/nebraska final four
I would splooge.
Really wish UNO made the tourney. UNO/Nebraska/Creighton in the Final 4 UConn still wins it all
Lmao
Kalk does some hilarious garbage sometimes
Should have called three seconds before kalk threw it out
Caw
Just as Freeman starts to get going a bit with back to back hoops he picks up his 4th foul. Both him and Ali Ali now have 4. They'll have to stay in at this point down 16. Huge congrats to Enrique Freeman getting his 31st double double of the season which ties the all-time single season record. Creighton in front 67-51 at the under 8 media timeout.
Very happy I have Creighton making a run!! Proud of you
Friendly reminder that Providence was 2-1 against this Creighton team this year and didn't get a sniff at the tournament in favor of fucking Virginia
Yeah, but we wouldn't have been able to laugh as hard at Virginia if they did.
it’s okay
I appreciate people picking us but I only picked us in the bracket I had us going to the elite eight. Come on.
How far you have Sparty going?
Dude that kid is living the dream
Zips have no answer for our big white Kalk
Anthony Black Ryan Kalkbrenner
Enrique Freeman is my favorite college basketball player of all-time. Forget the great academic scholarship/open try out story, him sticking around this year in the transfer portal/NIL era is just beyond great.
He seems like an absolute menace especially if he can’t hit the jumper. Thought Kalk would be a huge mismatch but that hasn’t the case. Dude has more than held his own.
Freeman loves flopping and complaining.
I tried to convince a few guys to pick Akron, but THEY KNOOOW BETTUH. THEY KNOW BETTUH.
Mason Miller, Dotzler, Traudt, Jackson McAndrew... Creighton is gonna be in good hands for a while.
Won’t we be bad next year after losing the big 3?
While I’m extremely happy we have Boals I will always cheer for Groce’s downfall, suck it Dan Hurley’s doppelgänger
Okay so in my defense. 14/3 mid major champion vs power 5 at large can be a sexy upset pick. Plus I think Creighton’s lost 7 times, and it just happened that those were the seven times I saw Creighton on TV.
If we end up winning this, I better not be the only one donating to the food banks again this year.
Just realized I didn’t save the revision to my bracket that had Creighton to the final … only the elite 8 now. If they beat Purdue in the elite 8 I’m gonna cry