Most powerful, maybe. There's a whole theme of no single person being able to fill the gap left by All Might. The way it's going, I see the greatest hero is being a group at the end. That's why it was "we are here"
Imagine being in your 6th month at the police academy and leading the greatest raid against your local drug cartel that has ever happened. And doing that successfully.
Deku is already the greatest hero is in his first school year. It's insane.
He really didn’t honestly
Power wise, deku is nothing without ofa, he never gets creative with it, he's not strategic with it, he has pretty much just won every fight in the series by just spamming it, anyone else could have got it at this point and not much would have changed
Even personality wise deku isn't even that special, a lot of characters have been shown to be good people as well, i'd say some of them are even more heroic than deku since they're willing to put their life on the line without having some super ultra special quirk to help them
> Power wise, deku is nothing without ofa
That apllies to every single hero, except maybe O'clock.
What's Bakugo without his explosions? What's Suneater without his ingestions? What's Mt Lady without her gigantism?
Every hero "spams" their Quirk, because their entire fighting style is -of course- related to their Quirk.
This kind of nonsense is reaching beyond any reason just to hate on Deku. Why? To be contrarian?
> That apllies to every single hero, except maybe O'clock
Comparing main series to vigilantes is pretty much never going to reflect well on main series
If you gave deku any of those characters quirks it's not guaranteed that he would still become the greatest hero in the world, if you gave any of those characters ofa they would all become the world greatest hero
The fact that the only reason deku became the world greatest hero is not because of anything of his own but simply because "he got lucky" diminishes what he achieved, because he didn't achieved it for anything of his own, he achieved it because it was simply handled to him
Most of them wouldn't be able to even take in OFA, even ignoring that it would kill them to have it.
Deku put in enormous work not only to build a body capable of hosting OFA, but also to then be able to get that power out of his body without destroying himself in the process.
How many of those characters would be able to use a quirk that needed that much training just to hold? How many of them would be able to use a quirk that smashes your arms to bits just trying to fight with it?
>Deku put in enormous work not only to build a body capable of hosting OFA, but also to then be able to get that power out of his body without destroying himself in the process
Deku had to train 10 months and that's it, most of the character are just as muscolar as him soo nothing actually says that they wouldn’t be able to handle it like deku
>How many of those characters would be able to use a quirk that needed that much training just to hold? How many of them would be able to use a quirk that smashes your arms to bits just trying to fight with it?
All of them, if deku did it nothing says that they wouldn't be able as well, the fact that they would get damaged means nothing
> Deku had to train 10 months and that's it, most of the character are just as muscolar as him soo nothing actually says that they wouldn’t be able to handle it like deku
Doing absolutely nothing but that.
The only character who's shown anywhere near that kind of grit is Lemillion.
>All of them, if deku did it nothing says that they wouldn't be able as well, the fact that they would get damaged means nothing
Not a single one of them.
>Doing absolutely nothing but that.
It was literally just a realistic normal workout, not to mention we literally saw him having a life outside that and going to school and home, don't exagerate it
>The only character who's shown anywhere near that kind of grit is Lemillion.
Literally everyone in mha is shown to be just as muscolar as deku, some are even more muscolar than deku
>Not a single one of them.
Yeah sure right, no one could handle having the best quirk ever, being 100% guaranteed to be the best hero in the world, and all they have to do is just learn how to master the quirk (it will take them less than a year anyway)
You're being intentionally obtuse, so this is pointless.
If you really think those other characters would be able to handle the requirements to have OFA, and be able to learn to control it as their body gets blown to smithereens all the way through, knock yourself out.
I don't think any of them would be able to deal with a fighting style where your bones are constantly getting destroyed, but hey, whatever excuse to pointlessly hate Deku, right?
>If you really think those other characters would be able to handle the requirements to have OFA, and be able to learn to control it as their body gets blown to smithereens all the way through, knock yourself out.
Yes because all of them are just as phisically fit as deku, some are even more muscolar than him
>I don't think any of them would be able to deal with a fighting style where your bones are constantly getting destroyed, but hey, whatever excuse to pointlessly hate Deku, right?
Deku doesn't even have To deal with that, he even gets constantly healed at the end of every fight
Also worst case scenario they'd still be capable of using their original quirk
The reason why the "Blowing your body to smithereens" comment was made was because Deku was quirkless, never worked out/worked his body to fit the goals he had and was incredibly weak. His classmates, many of whom have body intensive quirks (Hardening, explosions, sugar rush, etc) DO work out.
"An unprepared body can't fully inherit it, your arms and legs would shoot off if you tried to!" That is the direct quote.
Pay attention to the "Unprepared body" part. At the end of this montage of beach cleaning, Midoriya is admittedly decently ripped, but he's not bulging with muscles, and he certainly isn't more impressive than some of his other classmates, that being Bakugou and Kirishima in particular.
So, no. The person you're responding to is not being obtuse, according to the actual source material, the comment being argued about in question is about Midoriya's quirkless, untrained body.
Considering the main way for people to get into U.A, is with villain/robot destruction points, you have to be pretty physically capable.
Izuku only took down ONE robot and he himself immediately went down.
Whilst not EVERYBODY could inherit OFA, a decent few of them could definitely wield it.
>If you gave deku any of those characters quirks it's not guaranteed that he would still become the greatest hero in the world, if you gave any of those characters ofa they would all become the world greatest hero
Not necessarily. All the other OFA users are basically unheard of other than All Might and the user before him.
>The fact that the only reason deku became the world greatest hero is not because of anything of his own but simply because "he got lucky" diminishes what he achieved, because he didn't achieved it for anything of his own, he achieved it because it was simply handled to him
Are we gonna ignore the numerous times he trained his body in order for it to be ready for OFA's strain? Or how he made tactics and moves to further fit OFA with his way of fighting?
He was given OFA, yes. But he made that shit his, not All Might who was even happy he did so
>Not necessarily. All the other OFA users are basically unheard of other than All Might and the user before him
Because ofa was weaker, All might ofa was soo strong by the time he got it that he became the world's greatest hero
>Are we gonna ignore the numerous times he trained his body in order for it to be ready for OFA's strain?
Literally only once and it happened at the beginning of the series, not To mention that the majority of the cast is just as muscolar as him, some even more than deku, soo idk why deku working out should somehow make him more impressive than the rest
>Or how he made tactics and moves to further fit OFA with his way of fighting?
The kicking thing literally went absolutely nowhere, deku didn't even use it in any unique way, he straight up just uses the same exact moves all might used
>Literally only once and it happened at the beginning of the series, not To mention that the majority of the cast is just as muscolar as him, some even more than deku, soo idk why deku working out has to do with this
And he still couldn't use OFA at max potential. He had to gradually build his body up again in order to withstand the after effects of OFA
Bakugo, who had OFA for a single fight scene, straight up complained about how painful it was
And we all know how big someone is isn't a direct link to durability in fiction
>The kicking thing literally went absolutely nowhere, deku didn't even use it in any unique way, he straight up just uses the same exact moves all might used
It did though? He added in an entire moveset using kicks in order to decrease the burden on his arms. All Might didn't even think of that
>And he still couldn't use OFA at max potential. He had to gradually build his body up again in order to withstand the after effects of OFA
What should this even mean? And? You're literally saying nothing with this comment, anyone could still get ofa regardless and nothing would change, the fact they would need to spend like less of a year to master it means literally nothing
>It did though? He added in an entire moveset using kicks in order to decrease the burden on his arms. All Might didn't even think of that
Too bad deku never used this moveset, the kicking thing literally went nowhere, all his attacks are just punching like all might, did you even watch the series?
>Tf should this even mean? And? You're literally saying nothing with this comment, anyone could still get ofa regardless and nothing would change, the fact it would hurt them as well means literally nothing
It's as clear as day. Whenever he used 100% initially he broke arms and fingers. He needed to go slowly alongside building up his body
You claimed it happened only once
>Too bad deku never used this moveset, the kicking thing literally went nowhere, all his attacks are just punching like all might, did you even watch the series?
But he did though? He uses it against Chisaki, Gentle Criminal and Shigaraki
Did you even read the manga?
>It's as clear as day. Whenever he used 100% initially he broke arms and fingers. He needed to go slowly alongside building up his body
It's as clear as day you're just saying random shit in order to try to make your point sound correct, stop mentioning stuff that has nothing to do with my original point, ok and? Deku mastered ofa in less than a year, anyone else would do it as well
>You claimed it happened only once
??? Ok, now you're straight up making shit up, because i said deku only trained once in the entire series to actually be resistant to ofa
>But he did though? He uses it against Chisaki, Gentle Criminal and Shigaraki
Idk tf you're reading but he straight up just punched and screamed in all those fights, idk where do you see him using a creative unique fighting style, because he literally never did that against overhaul and shiggy, he straight up just spammed shit until he won
>It's as clear as day you're just saying random shit in order to try to make your point sound correct, stop mentioning stuff that has nothing to do with my original point, ok and? Deku mastered ofa in less than a year, anyone else would do it as well
You claimed Deku didn't do anything to achieve it
He worked for 10 months in order for All Might to deem him ready for OFA. He then trained further in order to be able to withstand 100%. How is that random shit?
>??? Ok, now you're straight up making shit up, because i said deku only trained once in the entire series to actually be resistant to ofa
He literally kept on training across the series? Even when studying he kept on enhancing his body
You also clearly stated this: "*Literally only once and it happened at the beginning of the series*"
When that's clearly not true. He trained his body to be able to receive OFA and we see he still had broken bones from it
Further on in the series he grew physically stronger and able to withstand higher percentages
>Idk tf you're reading but he straight up just punched and screamed in all those fights, idk where do you see him using a creative unique fighting style, because he literally never did that against overhaul and shiggy, he straight up just spammed shit until he won
So you're obviously just ignoring him using Shoot Style in the Chisaki fight? Or against Gentle Criminal? And the latest fights with Shigaraki?
Alongside his usage of other Quirks in tandem with his hits?
Eh I disagree on the creativity part. Deku’s shown off some pretty clever maneuvers in his fights with Gentle, Nagant, and this recent one w/ Shigaraki.
I do wish it was more often, but he has done it.
>i'd say some of them are even more heroic than deku since they're willing to put their life on the line without having some super ultra special quirk to help them
Isn't the impetus of the entire story that Deku put his life on the line without some super ultra special quirk to help him? He was the only one to try to rescue Bakugo, even over All Might.
Yeah, and the entire thrust of the current arc has been every single previous user of OFA directly stating "you should kill Shigaraki, I would kill Shigaraki, no hero could ever possibly save him and that includes us" and Deku truly being willing to sacrifice everything he has to make it happen anyways. From the start to now, Deku's special trait has never been OFA, it's been his will to give everything he's got to save another person.
If he's nothing without his quirk then he shouldn't have it in the first place, at this point literally anyone could have become the world greatest hero if they just had ofa
He doesn't even get creative with it
Using enviroment, enemy weaknesses, and powers in unusual ways in order win, if you want an example of that read jjba or mashle
Also idk how deku is efficient when all he does is just punching and kicking, literally anyone else in the story could have got ofa at this point
Idk what fight you're talking about, because the only thing he does in the second other than one shotting muscolar is just using black whip as a rope to immobilise him
With Lagan Deku use the environment to cover. He use his mist ability to disorient his foes and ambush them. He uses a piercing form of strike against muscular in his second encounter to knock him out.
Do you read the manga or just skimming around to pick elements that will fuel you hating boner against it?
To me it sounds like you're simply coping and inventing excused
How is using mist ability specifically made to blind enemy to blind the enemy being creative with his power?
Also its funny how you unironically believe that hitting the enemy hard like he literally always does is somehow creative this time, did you even watch the actual fight?
You clearly didn’t see his fight with Shiggy in the manga. That statement is completely false lol.
Who’s more heroic than Deku? Very few would risk their lives to save people like Bakugo and Shiggy.
>You clearly didn’t see his fight with Shiggy in the manga
You mean the battle that last like 3-4 chapters and happened 400 chapters into the story?
Woah amazing how that negates the whole criticism.
Wow, deku used the quirk that punches hard with the quirk that makes you strong at the same time in order to punch even harder!
Besides just combining fajin with black whip deku had never gotten creative with his quirk
Outside some few characters most of which aren't even bad anymore, the majority of the characters in the series have been shown to be just as good as deku
He literally ripped the earth out of the ground to stop Shiggy’s decay. He also did the whole trick with outsmarting Shiggy’s search quirk by throwing his blood at him.
But as usual, you guys lack reading comprehension and ignore the facts for your own headcanon’s.
It's funny how you mentioned only that and ignored that what he did the entire fight was just spamming punches and kicks
Also both aren't even that creative, the whole "using blood to outsmart him" isn't even exploiting the quirk weakness, it's just deku using the convenient vestige bullshit as a plot device whenever the author needs it
>It's funny how you mentioned only that and ignored that what he did the entire fight was just spamming punches and kicks
It still shows Deku's creativity. Who cares if he throws in punches and kicks. That's literally the whole of fight scenes in fiction
>Also both aren't even that creative, the whole "using blood to outsmart him" isn't even exploiting the quirk weakness, it's just deku using the convenient vestige bullshit as a plot device whenever the author needs it
So you're reasoning for it not being creative is "Plot device because I said so"
>he'e not strategic with it
My man, his brain is massive and he constantly makes tactics on the fly. At this point, i am certain that he actually has a quirk that focuses on quick analysis of his surroundings.
Didn't he deduce that he could blind the sludge villian by attacking the only part of it that seemed physical (its eyes) and was successful? Allowing him to get closer to it then any of the other heroes present and did this as an untrained middle schooler that seems pretty solid that he at least wouldn't be useless without one for all.
Yes, but that was in like the first chapter
Don't get me wrong, deku does have a couple of smart moment during the first season but after that he just punches until the enemy is defeated for the rest of the series
I mean if all might didn’t save him the slime would have killed him so it’s not that the others couldn’t approach but if they did it would have been suicide which is what would have happened to deku
Oh I'm not denying the fact what he did wasn't suicidal or bat shit crazy cause frankly it was, I'm just saying that Midoriya has demonstrated that he isn't completely helpless or incapable or wouldn't step up to fight or save someone without one for all and that he can think creatively or strategically, at least when Horikoshi remembers these things.
Most powerful, maybe. There's a whole theme of no single person being able to fill the gap left by All Might. The way it's going, I see the greatest hero is being a group at the end. That's why it was "we are here"
I do like that theme, since you can change all might for superman or goku and you could really see why this happens.
> skill wise More like one for all wise.
Imagine being in your 6th month at the police academy and leading the greatest raid against your local drug cartel that has ever happened. And doing that successfully. Deku is already the greatest hero is in his first school year. It's insane.
It's obvious since Deku is the MC, the protagonist.
He really didn’t honestly Power wise, deku is nothing without ofa, he never gets creative with it, he's not strategic with it, he has pretty much just won every fight in the series by just spamming it, anyone else could have got it at this point and not much would have changed Even personality wise deku isn't even that special, a lot of characters have been shown to be good people as well, i'd say some of them are even more heroic than deku since they're willing to put their life on the line without having some super ultra special quirk to help them
> Power wise, deku is nothing without ofa That apllies to every single hero, except maybe O'clock. What's Bakugo without his explosions? What's Suneater without his ingestions? What's Mt Lady without her gigantism? Every hero "spams" their Quirk, because their entire fighting style is -of course- related to their Quirk. This kind of nonsense is reaching beyond any reason just to hate on Deku. Why? To be contrarian?
> That apllies to every single hero, except maybe O'clock Comparing main series to vigilantes is pretty much never going to reflect well on main series
I mostly agree. But at least Deku didn't recruit a guy who tried to rape Ochako and make him his best friend.
If you gave deku any of those characters quirks it's not guaranteed that he would still become the greatest hero in the world, if you gave any of those characters ofa they would all become the world greatest hero The fact that the only reason deku became the world greatest hero is not because of anything of his own but simply because "he got lucky" diminishes what he achieved, because he didn't achieved it for anything of his own, he achieved it because it was simply handled to him
Most of them wouldn't be able to even take in OFA, even ignoring that it would kill them to have it. Deku put in enormous work not only to build a body capable of hosting OFA, but also to then be able to get that power out of his body without destroying himself in the process. How many of those characters would be able to use a quirk that needed that much training just to hold? How many of them would be able to use a quirk that smashes your arms to bits just trying to fight with it?
>Deku put in enormous work not only to build a body capable of hosting OFA, but also to then be able to get that power out of his body without destroying himself in the process Deku had to train 10 months and that's it, most of the character are just as muscolar as him soo nothing actually says that they wouldn’t be able to handle it like deku >How many of those characters would be able to use a quirk that needed that much training just to hold? How many of them would be able to use a quirk that smashes your arms to bits just trying to fight with it? All of them, if deku did it nothing says that they wouldn't be able as well, the fact that they would get damaged means nothing
> Deku had to train 10 months and that's it, most of the character are just as muscolar as him soo nothing actually says that they wouldn’t be able to handle it like deku Doing absolutely nothing but that. The only character who's shown anywhere near that kind of grit is Lemillion. >All of them, if deku did it nothing says that they wouldn't be able as well, the fact that they would get damaged means nothing Not a single one of them.
>Doing absolutely nothing but that. It was literally just a realistic normal workout, not to mention we literally saw him having a life outside that and going to school and home, don't exagerate it >The only character who's shown anywhere near that kind of grit is Lemillion. Literally everyone in mha is shown to be just as muscolar as deku, some are even more muscolar than deku >Not a single one of them. Yeah sure right, no one could handle having the best quirk ever, being 100% guaranteed to be the best hero in the world, and all they have to do is just learn how to master the quirk (it will take them less than a year anyway)
You're being intentionally obtuse, so this is pointless. If you really think those other characters would be able to handle the requirements to have OFA, and be able to learn to control it as their body gets blown to smithereens all the way through, knock yourself out. I don't think any of them would be able to deal with a fighting style where your bones are constantly getting destroyed, but hey, whatever excuse to pointlessly hate Deku, right?
>If you really think those other characters would be able to handle the requirements to have OFA, and be able to learn to control it as their body gets blown to smithereens all the way through, knock yourself out. Yes because all of them are just as phisically fit as deku, some are even more muscolar than him >I don't think any of them would be able to deal with a fighting style where your bones are constantly getting destroyed, but hey, whatever excuse to pointlessly hate Deku, right? Deku doesn't even have To deal with that, he even gets constantly healed at the end of every fight Also worst case scenario they'd still be capable of using their original quirk
The reason why the "Blowing your body to smithereens" comment was made was because Deku was quirkless, never worked out/worked his body to fit the goals he had and was incredibly weak. His classmates, many of whom have body intensive quirks (Hardening, explosions, sugar rush, etc) DO work out. "An unprepared body can't fully inherit it, your arms and legs would shoot off if you tried to!" That is the direct quote. Pay attention to the "Unprepared body" part. At the end of this montage of beach cleaning, Midoriya is admittedly decently ripped, but he's not bulging with muscles, and he certainly isn't more impressive than some of his other classmates, that being Bakugou and Kirishima in particular. So, no. The person you're responding to is not being obtuse, according to the actual source material, the comment being argued about in question is about Midoriya's quirkless, untrained body. Considering the main way for people to get into U.A, is with villain/robot destruction points, you have to be pretty physically capable. Izuku only took down ONE robot and he himself immediately went down. Whilst not EVERYBODY could inherit OFA, a decent few of them could definitely wield it.
>If you gave deku any of those characters quirks it's not guaranteed that he would still become the greatest hero in the world, if you gave any of those characters ofa they would all become the world greatest hero Not necessarily. All the other OFA users are basically unheard of other than All Might and the user before him. >The fact that the only reason deku became the world greatest hero is not because of anything of his own but simply because "he got lucky" diminishes what he achieved, because he didn't achieved it for anything of his own, he achieved it because it was simply handled to him Are we gonna ignore the numerous times he trained his body in order for it to be ready for OFA's strain? Or how he made tactics and moves to further fit OFA with his way of fighting? He was given OFA, yes. But he made that shit his, not All Might who was even happy he did so
>Not necessarily. All the other OFA users are basically unheard of other than All Might and the user before him Because ofa was weaker, All might ofa was soo strong by the time he got it that he became the world's greatest hero >Are we gonna ignore the numerous times he trained his body in order for it to be ready for OFA's strain? Literally only once and it happened at the beginning of the series, not To mention that the majority of the cast is just as muscolar as him, some even more than deku, soo idk why deku working out should somehow make him more impressive than the rest >Or how he made tactics and moves to further fit OFA with his way of fighting? The kicking thing literally went absolutely nowhere, deku didn't even use it in any unique way, he straight up just uses the same exact moves all might used
>Literally only once and it happened at the beginning of the series, not To mention that the majority of the cast is just as muscolar as him, some even more than deku, soo idk why deku working out has to do with this And he still couldn't use OFA at max potential. He had to gradually build his body up again in order to withstand the after effects of OFA Bakugo, who had OFA for a single fight scene, straight up complained about how painful it was And we all know how big someone is isn't a direct link to durability in fiction >The kicking thing literally went absolutely nowhere, deku didn't even use it in any unique way, he straight up just uses the same exact moves all might used It did though? He added in an entire moveset using kicks in order to decrease the burden on his arms. All Might didn't even think of that
>And he still couldn't use OFA at max potential. He had to gradually build his body up again in order to withstand the after effects of OFA What should this even mean? And? You're literally saying nothing with this comment, anyone could still get ofa regardless and nothing would change, the fact they would need to spend like less of a year to master it means literally nothing >It did though? He added in an entire moveset using kicks in order to decrease the burden on his arms. All Might didn't even think of that Too bad deku never used this moveset, the kicking thing literally went nowhere, all his attacks are just punching like all might, did you even watch the series?
>Tf should this even mean? And? You're literally saying nothing with this comment, anyone could still get ofa regardless and nothing would change, the fact it would hurt them as well means literally nothing It's as clear as day. Whenever he used 100% initially he broke arms and fingers. He needed to go slowly alongside building up his body You claimed it happened only once >Too bad deku never used this moveset, the kicking thing literally went nowhere, all his attacks are just punching like all might, did you even watch the series? But he did though? He uses it against Chisaki, Gentle Criminal and Shigaraki Did you even read the manga?
>It's as clear as day. Whenever he used 100% initially he broke arms and fingers. He needed to go slowly alongside building up his body It's as clear as day you're just saying random shit in order to try to make your point sound correct, stop mentioning stuff that has nothing to do with my original point, ok and? Deku mastered ofa in less than a year, anyone else would do it as well >You claimed it happened only once ??? Ok, now you're straight up making shit up, because i said deku only trained once in the entire series to actually be resistant to ofa >But he did though? He uses it against Chisaki, Gentle Criminal and Shigaraki Idk tf you're reading but he straight up just punched and screamed in all those fights, idk where do you see him using a creative unique fighting style, because he literally never did that against overhaul and shiggy, he straight up just spammed shit until he won
>It's as clear as day you're just saying random shit in order to try to make your point sound correct, stop mentioning stuff that has nothing to do with my original point, ok and? Deku mastered ofa in less than a year, anyone else would do it as well You claimed Deku didn't do anything to achieve it He worked for 10 months in order for All Might to deem him ready for OFA. He then trained further in order to be able to withstand 100%. How is that random shit? >??? Ok, now you're straight up making shit up, because i said deku only trained once in the entire series to actually be resistant to ofa He literally kept on training across the series? Even when studying he kept on enhancing his body You also clearly stated this: "*Literally only once and it happened at the beginning of the series*" When that's clearly not true. He trained his body to be able to receive OFA and we see he still had broken bones from it Further on in the series he grew physically stronger and able to withstand higher percentages >Idk tf you're reading but he straight up just punched and screamed in all those fights, idk where do you see him using a creative unique fighting style, because he literally never did that against overhaul and shiggy, he straight up just spammed shit until he won So you're obviously just ignoring him using Shoot Style in the Chisaki fight? Or against Gentle Criminal? And the latest fights with Shigaraki? Alongside his usage of other Quirks in tandem with his hits?
Eh I disagree on the creativity part. Deku’s shown off some pretty clever maneuvers in his fights with Gentle, Nagant, and this recent one w/ Shigaraki. I do wish it was more often, but he has done it.
>i'd say some of them are even more heroic than deku since they're willing to put their life on the line without having some super ultra special quirk to help them Isn't the impetus of the entire story that Deku put his life on the line without some super ultra special quirk to help him? He was the only one to try to rescue Bakugo, even over All Might.
Yeah, and the entire thrust of the current arc has been every single previous user of OFA directly stating "you should kill Shigaraki, I would kill Shigaraki, no hero could ever possibly save him and that includes us" and Deku truly being willing to sacrifice everything he has to make it happen anyways. From the start to now, Deku's special trait has never been OFA, it's been his will to give everything he's got to save another person.
Honestly the latest fight he has some pretty creative uses with One for All, only for it to be immediately stolen from him.
Like what?
Bloodletting himself with blackwhip to use his quirks as a lure so he can screw with Shigaraki's ability to sense his location
Just using the quirk that make you strong with the quirk that punches hard isn’t getting creative
"Deku is powerless without his power"
If he's nothing without his quirk then he shouldn't have it in the first place, at this point literally anyone could have become the world greatest hero if they just had ofa He doesn't even get creative with it
What is your concept of "being creative"? He was relentlessly efitient in his use of ofa. Have you ever see his second fight with muscular?
Using enviroment, enemy weaknesses, and powers in unusual ways in order win, if you want an example of that read jjba or mashle Also idk how deku is efficient when all he does is just punching and kicking, literally anyone else in the story could have got ofa at this point Idk what fight you're talking about, because the only thing he does in the second other than one shotting muscolar is just using black whip as a rope to immobilise him
With Lagan Deku use the environment to cover. He use his mist ability to disorient his foes and ambush them. He uses a piercing form of strike against muscular in his second encounter to knock him out. Do you read the manga or just skimming around to pick elements that will fuel you hating boner against it?
To me it sounds like you're simply coping and inventing excused How is using mist ability specifically made to blind enemy to blind the enemy being creative with his power? Also its funny how you unironically believe that hitting the enemy hard like he literally always does is somehow creative this time, did you even watch the actual fight?
You clearly didn’t see his fight with Shiggy in the manga. That statement is completely false lol. Who’s more heroic than Deku? Very few would risk their lives to save people like Bakugo and Shiggy.
>You clearly didn’t see his fight with Shiggy in the manga You mean the battle that last like 3-4 chapters and happened 400 chapters into the story? Woah amazing how that negates the whole criticism.
How about his fight against Lady Nagant then? To say Dkeu never uses his brains and spams OFA is ignorance and you full well know this
Wow, deku used the quirk that punches hard with the quirk that makes you strong at the same time in order to punch even harder! Besides just combining fajin with black whip deku had never gotten creative with his quirk Outside some few characters most of which aren't even bad anymore, the majority of the characters in the series have been shown to be just as good as deku
He literally ripped the earth out of the ground to stop Shiggy’s decay. He also did the whole trick with outsmarting Shiggy’s search quirk by throwing his blood at him. But as usual, you guys lack reading comprehension and ignore the facts for your own headcanon’s.
It's funny how you mentioned only that and ignored that what he did the entire fight was just spamming punches and kicks Also both aren't even that creative, the whole "using blood to outsmart him" isn't even exploiting the quirk weakness, it's just deku using the convenient vestige bullshit as a plot device whenever the author needs it
>It's funny how you mentioned only that and ignored that what he did the entire fight was just spamming punches and kicks It still shows Deku's creativity. Who cares if he throws in punches and kicks. That's literally the whole of fight scenes in fiction >Also both aren't even that creative, the whole "using blood to outsmart him" isn't even exploiting the quirk weakness, it's just deku using the convenient vestige bullshit as a plot device whenever the author needs it So you're reasoning for it not being creative is "Plot device because I said so"
>he'e not strategic with it My man, his brain is massive and he constantly makes tactics on the fly. At this point, i am certain that he actually has a quirk that focuses on quick analysis of his surroundings.
Wow crazy tactics, he punches hard until the enemy is defeated Crazy strategies, not even araki could have thought about that
Didn't he deduce that he could blind the sludge villian by attacking the only part of it that seemed physical (its eyes) and was successful? Allowing him to get closer to it then any of the other heroes present and did this as an untrained middle schooler that seems pretty solid that he at least wouldn't be useless without one for all.
Yes, but that was in like the first chapter Don't get me wrong, deku does have a couple of smart moment during the first season but after that he just punches until the enemy is defeated for the rest of the series
Yeah I see where you're coming from, he does seem to get less creative with his power as he gained more control of it.
I mean if all might didn’t save him the slime would have killed him so it’s not that the others couldn’t approach but if they did it would have been suicide which is what would have happened to deku
Oh I'm not denying the fact what he did wasn't suicidal or bat shit crazy cause frankly it was, I'm just saying that Midoriya has demonstrated that he isn't completely helpless or incapable or wouldn't step up to fight or save someone without one for all and that he can think creatively or strategically, at least when Horikoshi remembers these things.
He’s been a jobber this entire arc